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wvojak
16th August 2010, 08:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_rShZA_IjE&


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZuJqrcwrEU&

keehah
16th August 2010, 10:39 PM
I remember wondering years ago, since I thought Tony seemed honest to a large degree, how he would handle this knowledge.
Now I know.

Start at about the 10 minute mark when he gets into the economics.

I think the subliminal secret get rich message was in part 2. [Moonshine] ::)

Joe King
17th August 2010, 01:59 AM
Lots of people actually doing what he says will ensure a crash.

People continually rolling their "money" over in the system is a key component of a debt based system.
Enough people choosing to pull out would be no different than a bank run in 1932.
i.e. would allow for emergency to be declared all over again. And I think we've all heard of the type of things they can do after proclaiming that. :o

It'd be the financial equivalent of being in a small nightclub in New Jersey at a Great White show circa 2003.

The way I see it, if people actually want the economy they've known to ever come back, they need to borrow borrow borrow and then go get on that tread mill called the rat race.

But if you want a once in a lifetime opportunity to actually fix it, pull everything out now as that will crash it.

However, before that happens it's imperative that enough people actually understand what is that's wrong with a debt-based monetary system to be able to demand a viable alternative after it crashes.
Otherwise, once it crashes from people merely trying to protect their own "money", they'll simply be led along like a sheep on a collar into the next system that benefits the few, all over again.
i.e. they'll remain ignorant of the bigger picture and just go along. Same as what happened in 1933.

IMO, the ptb have already lit the fire for the stage show and are now standing ready at the exits, waiting for the panic to ensue so that their "solution" may be implemented.
Our job is to make sure enough people understand, as that's our only hope.

There's a critical juncture in time approaching, folks. Don't waste it.

Still Barbaro
17th August 2010, 08:25 PM
Again, I haven't heard anyone even a little bit positive and the economy in the short and medium term.

Robbins did note accurately that the 77-80 million boomers will reduce spending in this economy propelled by over 71% of....consumer spending.

A very stupid economic model.

PatColo
21st August 2010, 09:39 PM
I accidentally started a new thread on this, based on theeconomiccollapseblog dude's blog entry commenting on Robbins' video.




Robbins vid(s) posted to youtube 8/16...


Even Tony Robbins Is Warning That
An Economic Collapse Is Coming (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/even-tony-robbins-is-warning-that-an-economic-collapse-is-coming)

It seems like almost everyone is warning of a coming economic collapse these days. Do you remember Tony Robbins? He is probably the world's best known "motivational speaker" and his infomercials dominated late night television during the 80s and 90s. He was always urging all of us to "unleash the power within" and to take charge of our lives. Well guess what? Now Tony Robbins is warning that an economic collapse is coming. In fact, he has issued a special video warning about what he believes is about to happen. Considering the incredible connections that he has at the highest levels of the financial world, it makes a lot of sense to consider what he is trying to warn us about. Robbins says that a "major retracement" is coming to financial markets and that the coming collapse is going to be a "painful process" as we go through it. Those familiar with Tony Robbins know that he always goes out of his way to stress the positive, so if even he is openly warning the public about a coming economic nightmare than you know that things are starting to get really, really bad out there.

The video that Tony Robbins published where he gives his economic warning is posted in two parts below. This is unlike any Tony Robbins video that you have ever seen before and it is absolutely jaw dropping....

Part 1:
Part 2:

So is Tony Robbins right about what is coming?

Yup.

An economic collapse is coming.

You need to get prepared.

For those not familiar with my previous articles, let's review just some of the reasons why America is headed towards an economic nightmare of unprecedented proportions....

MORE... (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/even-tony-robbins-is-warning-that-an-economic-collapse-is-coming)



BTW Is Robbins' a known sheister in some way? Or just suspected... like the dubious self-promotion expert Rich Dad? Any real Robbins stories we should know about? Jewish?

Also, I saw an article once which I can't find again, but it talked about pop-motivational psychologies (like Robbins' shtick), seems like it mentioned "The Secret (http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rhonda-Byrne/dp/1582701709/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8)" specifically among a few others, but tried to make the case that these are illuminati/tavistock-type ops, almost like psycho-therapeutic non-medicinal anti-depressants; intended in part to divert attention away from what THEY'RE doing to you/us... that ring a bell with anyone? I wanna say I saw it at Makow's site, but don't see anything resembling it there now.. may have been elsewhere?

keehah
21st August 2010, 10:05 PM
If your asking is he goyim enough to be trusted I'd say sure.

His positive 'secret' Schick is secondary to his commen sense IMO. Like giving a warning now to those who look to him for advice.

I like that he does not take it much further than the truth of it, creating a positive yet mainly aware environment. A solid base for using one's own will and action.

PatColo
21st August 2010, 11:59 PM
If your asking is he goyim enough to be trusted I'd say sure.


I only ask coz in Book's redundant Robbins thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/finance-and-economics/tony-robbins-joins-gsus-ha-ha/msg99564/#msg99564), he implies that Robbins gots dajoo on'im.



Too funny. Watch Part Two first for the biggest laugh. Part One we already know since our GIM1 days. Basically Tony can't keep the Motivation Lie going anymore and admits that the Stimulus failed. Him and his wealthy buddies are loading their Lear jets and fleeing to Tel Aviv from the angry goyim mob...lol.

:D


I've never heard anything from Robbins shtick or from outside sources indicating that he's a shyster. Got a family member who has one of Robbins' CD packages, seemed to think positively of it. Successful, brand-name self-improvement gurus are always going to be a target of skeptics. You have to concede though, one can't reach Robbins' level of celebrity/success, while being on the wrong side of dajooz. David Icke could elaborate on this... as could AJ.

PatColo
22nd August 2010, 11:02 AM
from the other Robbins thread which I'm trying to let die,



wow. i would say this is like the mainstream media talking about it.

speaking of Tony Robbins - anybody ever seen the movie Shallow Hal ? Tony has a cameo in there. I don't have TV so that movie was the last time I saw Tony.

i think he does a good job, but if anybody wants a pep talk, i am willing to provide one of comparable quality for a price as yet un-determined.


Yeah I saw Shallow Hal. Robbins was good... a little self deprecating humor there when in the elevator, Jack Black (Hal) meets Tony Robbins who plays himself, Black is star-struck, shakes Robbins' hand and says, "Man look at those mits! It's like grabbing a bunch of bananas!" :D
Here's the whole "stuck in the elevator" scene, http://www.betterdaystv.net/play.php?vid=19648

How long before Robbins really earns his way into gold-bugs good graces, and says to buy physical Au/Ag?

Book
22nd August 2010, 06:16 PM
BTW Is Robbins' a known sheister in some way? Or just suspected... like the dubious self-promotion expert Rich Dad? Any real Robbins stories we should know about? Jewish?



Tony was born "Anthony J. Mahavorick" and is totally kosher...lol.

:D

Joe King
22nd August 2010, 09:35 PM
BTW Is Robbins' a known sheister in some way? Or just suspected... like the dubious self-promotion expert Rich Dad? Any real Robbins stories we should know about? Jewish?



Tony was born "Anthony J. Mahavorick" and is totally kosher...lol.

:D


Which is perhaps why he might encourage people to take action that would ensure a crash?
So that predetermined solutions might be implimented, perhaps?

Because if people do what he says to do as a means of protecting their own assests, its akin to the bottom of the pyramid being removed.
i.e. a bank-run of sorts.

MNeagle
24th August 2010, 06:13 AM
Celebs’ & Billionaires’ Economic Warnings ?

One of the things we have harped on around here is the tendency for humans to be backwards looking in their sentiment.

The Recency Effect means we monkeys place disproportionate emphasis on recent stimuli or observations, regardless of worth or significance. Indeed, investors become bullish after they buy stocks, bearish after they sell them, as part of the self-rationalization process to justify their actions.

Consider: In October 2007, 4 days from the all time market top, the WSJ discussed how unlikely another 1987-like crash was (Exorcising Ghosts of Octobers Past). That was a backwards looking perspective, coming after 5 years of upwards market movement.

Perspectives sure changed following the economic collapse: One week after the Flash Crash, the WSJ noted how “the May 6 selloff had parallels to 1987” (How the ‘Flash Crash’ Echoed Black Monday); Is it any surprise that a 55% collapse in indexes during the prior 30 months subsequently impacted the tone of that article? (Note: We discussed both of these articles here).

The above psychological factors are what makes me point out the following two economic comments making the rounds. They fall into the category of recession-porn, and are worth considering.

The first is an “An Important Note Of Caution” from motivational-speaker Tony Robbins. He references a Trader who got the 1987 crash correct, then was wrong and lost money for many years, then made some good calls, and did not-great-but-good in 2008. Robbins references this trader as a warning about the next economic collapse. Without access to the person’s trading history, it sounds more like a case of Fooled by Randomness to me.

The second is mark Cuban’s recent pronouncement to “Put Money in the Bank,’ Not Stocks.” In a blog posting, Cuban noted that The Stock Market is still for Suckers. Note that cash has outperformed stocks over the past 5 years. Such pronouncements to “sell stocks, go all cash” from Cuban would have been quite valuable in 2005, less so in 2010

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I don’t doubt the business acumen of either of these gentlemen; Each is wildly successful in their chosen fields. However, I cannot help but note that neither of their fields involve analyzing the data that goes into determining economic or market collapses. Indeed, it smells more like a case of Recency effect than anything else.

Note that I am not talking my book: We have been mostly cash since May 5th (as much as 100% then, 50% cash in June). We are now over 80% cash, and are looking for a move down towards 950 on the SPX. So what both of these commentators are saying actually matches both our positioning and our perspectives (as well as this AM’s futures).

What I am pointing out is the unusual perspective of two businessmen discussing a crash that is so far outside of their expertise, following a 55% drop from the market top, and a 16% drop from the April highs. Perspectives such as this would be more valuable before, rather than after, a huge crash. (We will revisit these in 6 or 12 months).

It reminds me in some small part of the parade of sports figures and celebs on CNBC in late 1999 discussing their equity trades, or the Playboy bunny turned RE Agent in 2005 (also on TV) just as that market peaked. These were all late cycle momentum calls, as opposed to insightful analysis based on new data, fresh perspectives, or creative research.

I doubt the Cuban/Robbins calls rise to the level of full contrary indicator, but it makes me nervous to be on the same side of the trade of what can be described as “scared” or “dumb” money.

link (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/08/celebs-billionaires-economic-warnings/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Pict ure%29)