Smog for Diesels in Ca.

[zap]

Oh, I am really disgusted, got a DMV renewal for the flatbed ford F-350, and they say it needs a smog. Anybody now anything about mechanics? We put taller gears in it and chipped it years ago, I doubt it will pass smog. :-\ They just want more money from us!!

[millwright]

Yeah Zap, i just had a friend visit form California a few weeks ago. He had been on the road for three months tooling around the country in his diesel pickup. He was notified by a family member that they could not pay his fee for renewing his registration because he needed a smog check. He was stupified.He had never heard of such a thing.

Never the less, he had to drive all the way back to the west coast on expired tags. No way to get the truck smogged while being out of state. They fined him hundreds of dollars as a result.

Bottom line, there is a lesson to be learned here.

MOVE THE FU*K OUT OF CALIFORNIA!

Out here in KY we don't have any smog check at all.I run a hi flow H pipe on my 1990 Mustang GT with no cats, and i am also running long tube headers. Both of which would be highly illegal in COMMYAFORNIA.

GET OUT OF THERE!

[cedarchopper]

Can you register it as a farm vehicle? (edit: it appears you are too late)

http://npaper-wehaa.com/wlj/2010/04/22/#?article=843557

[milehi]

Last week I paid $701 for registration in CA for a three year old car. I was several days late but still... I'm moving to Oregon at the end of the year, and that sum would've paid for 14 years worth of registration there.

[Phoenix]

MOVE THE FU*K OUT OF CALIFORNIA!


Or move to a gray county:

http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARResources/02_SmogCheck/Engineering/program_map.pdf

[Phoenix]

Oh, I am really disgusted, got a DMV renewal for the flatbed ford F-350, and they say it needs a smog. Anybody now anything about mechanics? We put taller gears in it and chipped it years ago, I doubt it will pass smog. :-\ They just want more money from us!!


Be honest with the Smog Check station (find one that has a reputation of customer respect), and ask if they think it will pass. Give one or more a call.

Not sure about your financial situation, but you might be eligible for <a href="http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/01_ConsumerActivities/01_GettingSmogged/05_FinancialAssistance.html">CAP</a> if it doesn't pass:

Vehicles that fail the smog check inspection may be eligible for the Consumer Assistance Program (CAP). Qualified consumers will be eligible for financial assistance for emission-related repairs or they can choose to retire their high-polluting vehicle.

All questions regarding diesel-powered vehicle smog requirements should be referred to the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR), at 1-800-952-5210, or visit www.smogcheck.ca.gov

[Mouse]

We left Cali about a year ago. We received a notice of deficiency from the FTB in Sac that they have sent our tag registration (we didn't renew it since we moved) for collections (FTB being the collection agent) and that they have added fines and charges. The kicker is that they said they will garnish wages, put holds on bank accounts and attach liens to any real property owned in the state now or at any future time.

We were floored at this. I wrote a nastygram informing them we had moved out of state and the car was no longer under their jurisdiction. Additionally requested the original contract which caused me to be liable to renew my registration in perpetuity. Basically told them to f off and die.

As far as we know they have dropped it, but can you imagine if you just decided to non-op a car for a year (in fact, the car in question is a project car and not being used right now so it is essentially non-op). If you lived in cali, they could steal your bank account, steal your paycheck and move on your house over a failure to register a "vehicle", whether or not you are actually using it.

Other states simply require you send in the plates or declare non-op. There is nothing in a Cali registration form that indicates you have entered into a multi-year agreement securitized by any and all assets or future labor.

Unbelievable the way they are scrounging the bottom of the barrel.

Good ridddance Commiefornia!

[zap]

Thanks, can't move out of state I am stuck here, Just pisses me off, I have to jump around thru hoops I guess I could un- chip it, but I don't want nobody messing with it, then I would have to pay again to get it re-chipped.

It is just a matter of me finding the right guy to talk to, there are ways around everything.

[ximmy]

zap, do you have a regular mechanic... my mechanic does smog checks, he is honest in the community, we love him... he takes care of us.

If yours does not do smog he might be able to recommend someone friendly.

[milehi]

Non Op in CA is a joke. You get to pay for the privilege of parking your car off the street on private property ???

Edit- My Non Op tax would've been $256.

[I am me, I am free]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem.

[ximmy]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.


Thank you, "I am me, I am free," that was very helpful...

[I am me, I am free]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.


Thank you, "I am me, I am free," that was very helpful...


The fact of the matter is that if it was GENUINELY your property then NO ONE could tell you what to do with it. This is what very few are able to grasp for some odd reason.

[zap]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.


Thank you, "I am me, I am free," that was very helpful...


The fact of the matter is that if it was GENUINELY your property then NO ONE could tell you what to do
with it. This is what very few are able to grasp for some odd reason.


You are right, but ya still gotta play the game, until it changes, and jez I don't want to be a gross polluter. ;D

[I am me, I am free]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.


Thank you, "I am me, I am free," that was very helpful...


The fact of the matter is that if it was GENUINELY your property then NO ONE could tell you what to do
with it. This is what very few are able to grasp for some odd reason.


You are right, but ya still gotta play the game, until it changes, and jez I don't want to be a gross polluter. ;D


"Be the change you want to see in the world." --Gandhi

Since the state is not involved with the ownership of my automobile (it remains private property), no state agents can tell me what to do with - which includes surrendering it to the state.

[Phoenix]

We left Cali about a year ago. We received a notice of deficiency from the FTB in Sac that they have sent our tag registration (we didn't renew it since we moved) for collections (FTB being the collection agent) and that they have added fines and charges. The kicker is that they said they will garnish wages, put holds on bank accounts and attach liens to any real property owned in the state now or at any future time.

We were floored at this. I wrote a nastygram informing them we had moved out of state and the car was no longer under their jurisdiction. Additionally requested the original contract which caused me to be liable to renew my registration in perpetuity. Basically told them to f off and die.

As far as we know they have dropped it, but can you imagine if you just decided to non-op a car for a year (in fact, the car in question is a project car and not being used right now so it is essentially non-op). If you lived in cali, they could steal your bank account, steal your paycheck and move on your house over a failure to register a "vehicle", whether or not you are actually using it.

Other states simply require you send in the plates or declare non-op. There is nothing in a Cali registration form that indicates you have entered into a multi-year agreement securitized by any and all assets or future labor.

Unbelievable the way they are scrounging the bottom of the barrel.


Affirmative-action poster children run the DMV, all Spics, Niqqers, and Gooks (stupid Asians, not respectable ones).

There is no provision in California law for "perpetual" registration. Some non-White at DMV just assumed you are like the typical non-White Californio, and figured you didn't pay. I hope you sent the letter Certified Return Receipt? That should be enough, if you did. Otherwise, send another, so you have a paper trail. You might want to include a copy of your current registration.

[zap]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.


Thank you, "I am me, I am free," that was very helpful...


The fact of the matter is that if it was GENUINELY your property then NO ONE could tell you what to do
with it. This is what very few are able to grasp for some odd reason.


You are right, but ya still gotta play the game, until it changes, and jez I don't want to be a gross polluter. ;D


"Be the change you want to see in the world." --Gandhi

Since the state is not involved with the ownership of my automobile (it remains private property), no state agents can tell me what to do with - which includes surrendering it to the state.



So you don't carry insurance or register you vehicle with your state ? Where are you , and how do you get away with it? ;D

[Phoenix]

Thanks, can't move out of state I am stuck here, Just pisses me off, I have to jump around thru hoops I guess I could un- chip it, but I don't want nobody messing with it, then I would have to pay again to get it re-chipped.

It is just a matter of me finding the right guy to talk to, there are ways around everything/ enough cash/ and who you know.


Phoenix , I need to go the other direction, not the honest place, I know the chip is illegal, I need to go down the other Rd. VERY CAREFULLY. :D gotta get on the phone.



There is no legal way around the smog check. All the data is tightly-controlled, and sent directly to Sacramento. Tampering with the machines is akin to building "assault weapons" in California law, major felony. The only possible "illegal" way would be to find a smog check tech who is willing to risk loss of license and prison, who will smog check a similar vehicle as yours that is known to be passable. The machines are set so you can't fudge. You also have the potential danger of some government stooge reporting you for seeking out "illegal" means. I don't know of any loopholes for you, either, since the leftists crafted the new "law" to be much worse than the gas-powered smog check statute, which has waivers.

[Phoenix]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem.


You're back to lying again, I see. Blaming the victim here, in this case, a recent widow. Real "honorable" behavior. No, she didn't "volunteer" for shit. The government imposes itself by force.

[zap]

Well of course I would never do anything illegal ! We'll see how it all works out on friday. :oo--> ;D

[Phoenix]

So you don't carry insurance or register you vehicle with your state ? Where are you , and how do you get away with it? ;D


You know he's full of it. He just likes to boast about his fantasies. Across his "career" at GIM and here, he's claimed he didn't have a license plate, that he made his own license plate, and now most recently that he has a license plate from the State of Texas that isn't issued by their DMV.

[zap]

So you don't carry insurance or register you vehicle with your state ? Where are you , and how do you get away with it? ;D


You know he's full of it. He just likes to boast about his fantasies. Across his "career" at GIM and here, he's claimed he didn't have a license plate, that he made his own license plate, and now most recently that he has a license plate from the State of Texas that isn't issued by their DMV.


You know we drove 2 different trucks around for about 5 years without having the plates on, we had them in the glovebox, finally got pulled over and had to put them on. I don't know if they will do a sniff test as they call it on the diesel, maybe just a visual and throttle it up, it is a new law that went into effect this year, like I said we will see friday, and if not then it is just Money Money money money, where is Mightmanx he knows lots about cars?

[StackerKen]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem.


You're back to lying again, I see. Blaming the victim here, in this case, a recent widow. Real "honorable" behavior. No, she didn't "volunteer" for sh*t. The government imposes itself by force.


He called us all "a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers"

Is that a personal attack? ::)


Hey, I am me
http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/glass-of-stfu.jpg

[General of Darkness]

zap, do you have a regular mechanic... my mechanic does smog checks, he is honest in the community, we love him... he takes care of us.

If yours does not do smog he might be able to recommend someone friendly.


I have a guy I take the diesels to, and another guy who does brakes, and another who works on the gas engines, But I got a hold of a friend of a friend who's brothers cousin can take care of it, ;) we'll see how it works out friday. :oo-->

Non -op on this one is 322.00, regular reg, is 449.00 I'm sure I will be up to 600.00 anyhow.


ZAP, what year is your Ford? If you're in L.A. I can recommend the best mechanic in So Cal, he's in Van Nuys.

[zap]

zap, do you have a regular mechanic... my mechanic does smog checks, he is honest in the community, we love him... he takes care of us.

If yours does not do smog he might be able to recommend someone friendly.


I have a guy I take the diesels to, and another guy who does brakes, and another who works on the gas engines, But I got a hold of a friend of a friend who's brothers cousin can take care of it, ;) we'll see how it works out friday. :oo-->

Non -op on this one is 322.00, regular reg, is 449.00 I'm sure I will be up to 600.00 anyhow.


ZAP, what year is your Ford? If you're in L.A. I can recommend the best mechanic in So Cal, he's in Van Nuys.



Thanks General bout 5 hrs from there,its a 2000. No worries I'll figure it out, I am resourceful if nothing else, not so much I need of a mechanic, I just can't remember who chipped it, But I have a diesel guy who can put it back the way it was, I don't want it the way it was, I just want them to smog it the way it is.

I will get it smogged one way or the other. ;)

Oh, lay off I am me Iam free. :D

[zap]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem.


You're back to lying again, I see. Blaming the victim here, in this case, a recent widow. Real "honorable" behavior. No, she didn't "volunteer" for sh*t. The government imposes itself by force.


He called us all "a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers"

Is that a personal attack? ::)


Hey, I am me
http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/glass-of-stfu.jpg




Come on Ken , broad, sweeping, statements. :D

[StackerKen]

I have no sympathy for those of you who go along to get along with your compliance and surrendering your property to the state, you get your just desserts. You whine about something YOU volunteered for. You're just a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers.

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem.


You're back to lying again, I see. Blaming the victim here, in this case, a recent widow. Real "honorable" behavior. No, she didn't "volunteer" for sh*t. The government imposes itself by force.


He called us all "a bunch of cowardly, complaining enablers"

Is that a personal attack? ::)


Hey, I am me
http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/glass-of-stfu.jpg




Come on Ken , broad, sweeping, statements. :D


Ok Zap :)

Im over it now ;D

[General of Darkness]

Zap, I just got off the phone with my mechanic and he said as long as you haven't removed cats, etc to gain more horse power you should be fine. I would actually ask someone if they can take a look at it to see if it will pass. If it doesn't pass then you take it back to stock, but my guess is that you'll be fine. Now the guys that highly modified their older trucks are the ones that are going to be in trouble unless they held on to their stock parts.

FYI - I know I am free, he's good people, I just think he's as sick as all of us are at how the guberment have lost their minds and how intrusive they've become, especially in Cali. The thing that sucks for us in Cali that are GSUSer's is that we have no say, but we just can get up an leave. Plus I'm staying for the fireworks, until I have enough to get the fuck out of the U.S. entirely.

[zap]

Thankyou General ! ;D

[Phoenix]

You know we drove 2 different trucks around for about 5 years without having the plates on, we had them in the glovebox, finally got pulled over and had to put them on.


It's certainly possible to drive around with expired tags or no license plates, but it eventually catches up with you. You don't just tell the cop "I'm a sovereign citizen and don't need a license or plates," and he goes away, either.




I don't know if they will do a sniff test as they call it on the diesel, maybe just a visual and throttle it up, it is a new law that went into effect this year, like I said we will see friday, and if not then it is just Money Money money money, where is Mightmanx he knows lots about cars?


A good, honest mechanic will tell you before even hooking it up whether the modifications may or will cause a fail.

[Mouse]

Just giddy up and leave. Tell you what, if I can figure out how to giddy up and GET OUT, I will do it. Moving from cali to our sharecropper dirt empire has done wonderful things for us, but we are still the chattel of the state. Our state is just a little more user friendly, for now.

I study the sovereign thing as best as I can with my limited mental faculties, but I cannot see how it works. I wish that people that claim to know these matters would SHARE THE INFO on specifically how they did it and whether or not that precluded employment or other activities that are outside the black market (or, inside the MATRIX).

Not calling anyone out, but there has been a scad of posts here and at GIM about this and nobody has ever laid out the plan. I am a consultant and very good at laying out plans. I also seem to have some free time. If we could lay all this shit out so that it makes sense and share it amongst, I would be happy to put in time on the project.

I am sick of people browbeating the slaves for their ignorance without offering enlightenment. I am sick of Phoenix posting 87,000 times a day shilling all the above people and anyone else he/she/it can find.

Maybe we can work out some arrangement where the Jews finance IAMIAF to produce the documents and then pay off Phoenix to shut his cum holster for a minute while we all try to determine if any of this is not a false hope.

Besmirch as necessary, ye leaches of lifeblood that may besmirch upon the ready.

harrr

[Phoenix]

I am sick of Phoenix posting 87,000 times a day shilling all the above people and anyone else he/she/it can find.


WTF are you talking about?




pay off Phoenix to shut his cum holster


I guess I now understand your choice of VERMIN for your user name.

[I am me, I am free]

SHARE THE INFO on specifically how they did it and whether or not that precluded employment

Perhaps the reason no one is willing to 'share info' about their own personal solutions is to avoid drawing the heat to their own circumstances - have you ever considered that?

Then there's the corporate state apologist(s) on here who can't wait to call someone a liar when they've successfully executed a remedy.

If you want to learn something, then I suggest you seek out those who are making some headway and are willing to stand up and testify to the masses, such as Marc Stevens, Winston Shrout, George Gordon, etc.

I think the reason many don't post info on here is because of the 'just *burn a pinch of incense for Ceasar*' religious zealots* are standing ready to flame them. Who needs that horsesh*t??

*religious zealots for the corporate state as god while they PRETEND to be something else entirely - google 'burn a pinch of incense for Ceasar' to see what I'm talking about

[horseshoe3]

SHARE THE INFO on specifically how they did it and whether or not that precluded employment

Perhaps the reason no one is willing to 'share info' about their own personal solutions is to avoid drawing the heat to their own circumstances - have you ever considered that?



If it works as well as you let on, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. The gov't has no power to harm you because you know the magic words (and forms) to make them go away.

[Phoenix]

Perhaps the reason no one is willing to 'share info' about their own personal solutions is to avoid drawing the heat to their own circumstances - have you ever considered that?

Then there's the corporate state apologist(s) on here who can't wait to call someone a liar when they've successfully executed a remedy.


Contradictory statements.

"Remedy" = solution to a problem.

If you have "successfully executed a remedy," then why are you afraid of "drawing heat to your own circumstances"?

You LIE again when you call me a "corporate state apologist." I have never "apologized" (i.e., supported or made excuses for) the corporate state. I have merely laid out REALITY: you comply, or you lose your property, freedom, or your life. If there were a way around the power of the state, I'd be first to tell EVERYONE.

[zap]

Whoo whoooo yea, I passed smog on the diesel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

Not the other one though, its gas and 4 years newer and we haven't messed with it :boohoo

So I do get to jump thru hoops, Good Lord I wouldn't want to be a gross polluter here in Ca. :whip

[StackerKen]

Thats great Zap!...about the diesel anyway...maybe the gas one just needs a tune up? (hopefully)

[Phoenix]

Not the other one though, its gas and 4 years newer and we haven't messed with it :boohoo


What did the report say?

When we had to smog one of ours a few years back, the gas cap was the problem.

[zap]

Not the other one though, its gas and 4 years newer and we haven't messed with it :boohoo


What did the report say?

When we had to smog one of ours a few years back, the gas cap was the problem.


No report on the gas truck, the light says (service engine soon) I ( we ) have serviced it lots of times He shut the light off and said we would try it on Monday, but the light came back on as I was leaving town, he said something about a purge valve, maybe a hose? so another 2 hours next week.

The diesel was a joke,

Comprehensive Visual inspection= pass Functional check= Pass Emissions test= N/A

He didn't even hook it to a machine, I did see him clip that thing to the tailpipe. So it is just money !

[tekhen]

We left Cali about a year ago. We received a notice of deficiency from the FTB in Sac that they have sent our tag registration (we didn't renew it since we moved) for collections (FTB being the collection agent) and that they have added fines and charges. The kicker is that they said they will garnish wages, put holds on bank accounts and attach liens to any real property owned in the state now or at any future time.

We were floored at this. I wrote a nastygram informing them we had moved out of state and the car was no longer under their jurisdiction. Additionally requested the original contract which caused me to be liable to renew my registration in perpetuity. Basically told them to f off and die.

As far as we know they have dropped it, but can you imagine if you just decided to non-op a car for a year (in fact, the car in question is a project car and not being used right now so it is essentially non-op). If you lived in cali, they could steal your bank account, steal your paycheck and move on your house over a failure to register a "vehicle", whether or not you are actually using it.

Other states simply require you send in the plates or declare non-op. There is nothing in a Cali registration form that indicates you have entered into a multi-year agreement securitized by any and all assets or future labor.

Unbelievable the way they are scrounging the bottom of the barrel.

Good ridddance Commiefornia!

@ the bold. coming to a state near you... if the state coffers shrink, the tax payers will pay more.
"steal your bank account", "move on your house" - these are reasons to start a corporation.
anything under a 'citizens' SSN should be kept to a minimum

[Phoenix]

No report on the gas truck, the light says (service engine soon) I ( we ) have serviced it lots of times He shut the light off and said we would try it on Monday, but the light came back on as I was leaving town, he said something about a purge valve, maybe a hose? so another 2 hours next week.


An OBD-II scanner will show you why the light is on. You can borrow one, or buy one for about $50 (they're always handy).

It will also reset the codes so the light goes off. ;D

[zap]

You know I have so many irons in the fire now I don't want to play mechanic girl, but that is a good idea maybe I will buy one just to have it for next time, I have way to many vehicles.

[Phoenix]

You know I have so many irons in the fire now I don't want to play mechanic girl, but that is a good idea maybe I will buy one just to have it for next time, I have way to many vehicles.


I like this one:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Black-Decker-Smart-Scan-Car-Diagnostic-Tool-Model-AD925/10788613

[Phoenix]

You know I have so many irons in the fire now I don't want to play mechanic girl, but that is a good idea maybe I will buy one just to have it for next time, I have way to many vehicles.


I like this one:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Black-Decker-Smart-Scan-Car-Diagnostic-Tool-Model-AD925/10788613


I got one because my wife's vehicle kept having its light go off, due to not tightening the gas cap enough after filling it. If the gas cap isn't tight, it will report an emissions control error.

You can find cheaper ones than that above, but I highly recommend getting one that someone has had good experience with, even if it costs most.

[zap]

Well I went and bought one of those ODB11 scanners today, couldn't force myself to go to wal-mart so I went to Harbor Freight, Got one for $ 89.00, hooked it to the truck nope no linking, so I hooked it to the other car that had a service light on too, it worked on that one and gave me the code and what is wrong with that one , ( fuel volume regulator circuit open) well it has been open for a yr now. :D

Thanks a handy tool.

[Mouse]

Not sure what you got but Ford's are notorious for throwing codes. I think it's p0401 and p0402 which is the DPFE sensor for the EGR bullsh*t system. It's a $20 part and easy to replace, but usually doesn't fix the problem. The only thing I have found that works is to get a can of mass air flow meter cleaner, take the MAF off and clean it real good, replace air filter, put back together. That's a $3 fix. Not hard, my wife can do either of these repairs without much difficulty, and she doesn't have 3kw solar system to tend to :)

[zap]

Not sure what you got but Ford's are notorious for throwing codes. I think it's p0401 and p0402 which is the DPFE sensor for the EGR bullsh*t system. It's a $20 part and easy to replace, but usually doesn't fix the problem. The only thing I have found that works is to get a can of mass air flow meter cleaner, take the MAF off and clean it real good, replace air filter, put back together. That's a $3 fix. Not hard, my wife can do either of these repairs without much difficulty, and she doesn't have 3kw solar system to tend to :)



Thankyou , no the ford diesel passed the smog, the Nissian Titan didn't and the Highlander has had a service light on for a year , but that thing actually read the code for me.
( fuel volume regulator circuit open)

[JohnQPublic]

I just went through this myself. I had a 1998 minivan which is still driveable and pretty good shape. It failed smog- everything out about 2x. OBDII said it was O2 sensor, so I got an aftermarket and paid a mechanic to install it. Went back and it still failed- 2 readings good, NOx out about 200 points. I tried decarbonizing, and tried again. Nox out by 100 points. HCs and CO good. Cats are about $1000 each (have 2, one already a non-compliant aftermarket; though it was compliant when I got it), and the car was worth $1000-1200 at best. No one makes a "compliant" after market cat for this model, so I was out of luck on that route. So I applied to the state, and they paid me $1000 to have it crushed. Sad ending.

[StackerKen]

I had a 7 year old Nissan frontier (small truck) that I put 260K on. It needed a new Cat. converter in order to pass smog...the shops wanted over 2K to install one...I sold it for a 1200....I kinda wish I would have kept it now

[ximmy]

sweet to hear you passed zap... wasn't too painful huh... yeah diesel smog is a joke... more monies for the PTB

[zap]

Hey Ximmy,

Glad to see you are back we were all worried about you ! thought they pissed you off and you weren't coming back. :D