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goldmonkey
20th August 2010, 11:20 AM
High-tech carts will tell on Cleveland residents who don't recycle (http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/08/city_of_cleveland_to_use_high-.html)


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- It would be a stretch to say that Big Brother will hang out in Clevelanders' trash cans, but the city plans to sort through curbside trash to make sure residents are recycling -- and fine them $100 if they don't.

The move is part of a high-tech collection system the city will roll out next year with new trash and recycling carts embedded with radio frequency identification chips and bar codes.

The chips will allow city workers to monitor how often residents roll carts to the curb for collection. If a chip show a recyclable cart hasn't been brought to the curb in weeks, a trash supervisor will sort through the trash for recyclables.

Trash carts containing more than 10 percent recyclable material could lead to a $100 fine, according to Waste Collection Commissioner Ronnie Owens. Recyclables include glass, metal cans, plastic bottles, paper and cardboard.

City Council on Wednesday approved spending $2.5 million on high-tech carts for 25,000 households across the city, expanding a pilot program that began in 2007 with 15,000 households.

The expansion will continue at 25,000 households a year until nearly all of the city's 150,000 residences are included. Existing carts might be retrofitted with the microchips.

"We're trying to automate our system to be a more efficient operation," Owens said. "This chip will assist us in doing our job better."

The chip-embedded carts are just starting to catch on elsewhere. The Washington, D.C. suburb of Alexandria, Va., earlier this year announced it would issue carts to check whether people are recycling.

Some cities in England have used the high-tech trash carts for several years to weigh how much garbage people throw out. People are charged extra for exceeding allotted limits.

Cleveland officials want to automate nearly all residential waste collection under a program being financed in part by a new fee that went into effect earlier this year.

The automated trucks allow drivers to remain in the cab and empty carts using a remote-control arm. Cleveland owns three of these trucks and plans to buy nine more.

Recycling is good for the environment and the city's bottom line, officials said. Cleveland pays $30 a ton to dump garbage in landfills, but earns $26 a ton for recyclables.

The city last year sent 220,000 tons of garbage to landfills and collected 5,800 tons of recyclables.

City Council approved updated trash collection ordinances last month to include a section on automated waste collection and curbside recycling. The new law changes infractions of the law from a minor misdemeanor to a civil penalty. The recycling law only applies to residents who have been issued the carts.

The new law also prohibits people from setting out excessive amounts of trash on tree lawns, which officials say has been an ongoing problem. Fines for excessive trash will range from $250 to $500 depending on the amount.

In either case, the property owner receives the citation. Landlords are responsible for making sure their tenants follow the law.

Owens said Cleveland will conduct a public-service campaign to educate residents about the new collection system and recycling program.

The city stepped up enforcement of ordinances governing trash collection last year by issuing 2,900 tickets, nearly five times more tickets than in 2008. Those infractions include citations for people who put out their trash too early or fail to bring in their garbage cans from the curb in a timely manner.

The Division of Waste Collection is on track to meet its goal of issuing 4,000 citations this year, Owens said.

"We're trying to make sure Cleveland stays clean and residents are properly informed on how these things should be set out," he said. "By issuing these tickets, it's helping us change the attitude or perception on how things should be set out."

Councilman Martin Keane, who represents the West Park neighborhood, said he would prefer that the Division of Waste Collection use more discretion when deciding whether to issue a ticket. A warning in many instances would suffice, he said.

"Everybody knows the ones who blatantly disregards the law," Keane said. "Those are the people we should hit with a $100 ticket."

BabushkaLady
20th August 2010, 03:51 PM
"The Division of Waste Collection is on track to meet its goal of issuing 4,000 citations this year, Owens said."

That says it all. Money, money, money.

Bet ya someone starts a delivery route to keep your recycle bin in "good grace" with the trash police. Pay $5 a week to avoid the $100 fine per citation; We'll donate recyclables to your bin so you don't have to bother with it . . . . a cash for trash business!

Phoenix
20th August 2010, 04:03 PM
"The Division of Waste Collection is on track to meet its goal of issuing 4,000 citations this year, Owens said."

That says it all. Money, money, money.

Bet ya someone starts a delivery route to keep your recycle bin in "good grace" with the trash police. Pay $5 a week to avoid the $100 fine per citation; We'll donate recyclables to your bin so you don't have to bother with it . . . . a cash for trash business!


Indeed!

The "goal" should be 100% compliance, not a "goal" of issuing fines.

It looks like, at this point, you only have to roll out the cart, not actually fill it: "The chips will allow city workers to monitor how often residents roll carts to the curb for collection. If a chip show a recyclable cart hasn't been brought to the curb in weeks, a trash supervisor will sort through the trash for recyclables."

BabushkaLady
20th August 2010, 04:13 PM
Good catch Phoenix!

This line tells where it ultimately will go:

"Cleveland pays $30 a ton to dump garbage in landfills, but earns $26 a ton for recyclables."

Phoenix
20th August 2010, 04:22 PM
Good catch Phoenix!

This line tells where it ultimately will go:

"Cleveland pays $30 a ton to dump garbage in landfills, but earns $26 a ton for recyclables."


All of our CRV (California Redemption Value - cash back) bottles & cans get separated out for the kids to claim as a form of allowance. The local trash company HATES people like us. Also, a lot of homeless folks go around and fetch the CRV materials out of blue containers; the cops will issue a ticket if caught.

I would imagine that the next phase will be to require a minimum amount of cash-laden recyclables, or one gets a fine or a higher charge.

BabushkaLady
20th August 2010, 04:30 PM
Is the CRV the deposit on the bottles and cans?

The homeless in Michigan were always picking up bottles and cans. You can make some good pocket change after an outdoor concert or game.

I don't drink any sodas so I never really paid any of the deposits.

Phoenix
20th August 2010, 04:49 PM
Is the CRV the deposit on the bottles and cans?

The homeless in Michigan were always picking up bottles and cans. You can make some good pocket change after an outdoor concert or game.

I don't drink any sodas so I never really paid any of the deposits.




Yes, CRV is a deposit of 5 or 10 cents, depending on size of container.

Glass
20th August 2010, 06:10 PM
And if the RFID chip is faulty but you are still putting it out, what happens?


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Twisted Titan
21st August 2010, 12:09 AM
Is the CRV the deposit on the bottles and cans?

The homeless in Michigan were always picking up bottles and cans. You can make some good pocket change after an outdoor concert or game.

I don't drink any sodas so I never really paid any of the deposits.




Yes, CRV is a deposit of 5 or 10 cents, depending on size of container.



Watch the Tax police are going to start hanging around the recycle centers........

Phoenix
21st August 2010, 01:38 AM
Watch the Tax police are going to start hanging around the recycle centers........


http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/BevContainer/Fraud/default.htm

boogietillyapuke
21st August 2010, 07:15 AM
Is the CRV the deposit on the bottles and cans?

The homeless in Michigan were always picking up bottles and cans. You can make some good pocket change after an outdoor concert or game.

I don't drink any sodas so I never really paid any of the deposits.




Not just the homeless.

My father who retired at 55 after his heart attack and subsequent bypass surgery, walked 5 miles a day for over 30 years as exercise and picked up bottles and cans along the way. He had a good route, full of topless bars and such, and could tell the difference between a deposit and a no deposit in a snowbank at 100 feet. :lol

I can't even begin to tell ya' what all those 10 cent deposits bought over the years, let alone all the freebies from the Marlboro catalogs, and all the other crap he found.

He didn't need the money.

Ragnarok
21st August 2010, 09:15 AM
"City Council on Wednesday approved spending $2.5 million on high-tech carts for 25,000 households across the city, expanding a pilot program that began in 2007 with 15,000 households.

The expansion will continue at 25,000 households a year until nearly all of the city's 150,000 residences are included. Existing carts might be retrofitted with the microchips."

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS for a TRASHCAN ??? How can I buy into THAT company?

I'd guess that's what the fines are really for. And, what will be the additional enforcement cost of this B.S.?

R.

Bullion_Bob
21st August 2010, 03:01 PM
If people had to haul their own garbage to the dump instead of the garbage fairy coming and it all magically disappearing, they would soon realize what content still has $ value, and what doesn't.

Gaillo
21st August 2010, 04:00 PM
..."Cleveland pays $30 a ton to dump garbage in landfills, but earns $26 a ton for recyclables."


I'll bet they don't actually "earn" a goddammed thing... Most recycling "revenue" is actually government subsidy, STOLEN at gunpoint from "taxpayers".

mick silver
21st August 2010, 04:59 PM
hell the town and citys are broke but they have the money to buy more junk to force on the people paying taxes