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Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 04:01 PM
This is the product of the mullatress leftist-lunatic DA of Sodomcisco, who is also running for California Attorney General. :o We don't have a massive budget problem, do we?!


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/parents/california-considers-jailing-p.html


California may jail parents if kids are truant

Talk about parental responsibility. The California Senate just passed a bill that could send parents to jail for up to a year if their kids -- from kindergarten through eighth grade -- miss too much school.

Senate Bill 1317 is actually a public safety measure, according to State Sen. Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), because children who don’t attend school regularly or drop out early are more likely to turn to crime.

"Three-quarters of our state inmate population are high school dropouts," Leno was quoted as saying by the Fresno Bee.

According to the Associated Press, parents whose kids miss too much school could be subject to up to a year in jail and a $2,000 fine, though judges could put the punishment on hold to give parents a chance to get their kids to class.

The Fresno Bee reported that the bill would apply to parents or guardians of children age 6 or older in kindergarten through eighth grade.

To find someone guilty under the bill, prosecutors would have to prove that the parents failed to reasonably supervise and encourage the student to attend school.

How much school is too much school to miss?

Chronic truancy would be as missing 10 percent or more of the school year without a valid excuse, the Bee reported.

The bill is the brainchild of San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for attorney general.

"It's much cheaper to focus to getting that elementary school student to school than it is prosecuting a homicide,” she was quoted as saying by the Bee.

Well, yes, presumably, it is. But putting parents in jail for this? If it is hard for a parent to somehow get their kid to go to school from home, you can imagine how hard it would be from jail. What about single parents? Where would the kids go? Should I keep on asking ridiculous questions about a ridiculous bill?

No, I think not. You can come up with your own.

Apparition
22nd August 2010, 04:16 PM
The corporatist system needs to ensure that all children are brainwashed and indoctrinated one way or another.

After all, the government certainly knows what's best for everyone so, therefore, it has a justification to impose its will upon everyone whether we like it or not.

Who needs individual choices and freedoms, anyway?! :sarc:

I bet that plenty of people here in KKKali would applaud this.

Book
22nd August 2010, 04:21 PM
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_03/ritalinDM1811_468x301.jpg

How can the Ritalin Corporation sell Ritalin if the school doesn't compel attendance?

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Ponce
22nd August 2010, 05:00 PM
They wanted kids? now they will pay the fine........I for one never wanted BRATS........have a cat who is a brat but at least she eats less.

Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 05:32 PM
I bet that plenty of people here in KKKali would applaud this.


A mixed-race (part Black) lunatic leftist from Sodomcisco is proposing it.

Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 05:33 PM
They wanted kids? now they will pay the fine........I for one never wanted BRATS........have a cat who is a brat but at least she eats less.


NO KIDS = NO FUTURE

EE_
22nd August 2010, 05:44 PM
NO KIDS = NO FUTURE







Who says there is a future with/for kids?
Many civilizations have disappeared in history and it was not from a lack of kids.
We are very likely on the precipice of one of these collapses now.

KIDS = VERY PAINFUL LIMITED FUTURE

Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 05:46 PM
Who says there is a future with/for kids?
Many civilizations have disappeared in history and it was not from a lack of kids.
We are very likely on the precipice of one of these collapses now.

KIDS = VERY PAINFUL LIMITED FUTURE


NO KIDS = NO FUTURE = CERTAIN OUTCOME

KIDS =/= GUARANTEED FUTURE

I'm afraid you are likely right. The future will be one of barbarism, before the End.

dysgenic
22nd August 2010, 07:35 PM
I bet they start imposing an expensive 'parenting class' as an alternative to jail for the parents prosecuted for this fake crime. Got to find a way to expand the prison industrial system somehow.

dys

Mouse
22nd August 2010, 07:41 PM
it will be a revenue generator like DUI. Big fines, "school school" that costs a fortune and the proceeds line the pockets of private "contractors" (women and minority owned, of course). Extract more money from the proles.

Desolation LineTrimmer
22nd August 2010, 07:44 PM
I wonder where the kid is going to live if the parent is doing a year in the county hoosgoow? I actually know a single father here in California whose son hates school. The kid is only 11, and the father has to call him every morning from work and harangue him to get off his ass and go to school. My friend goes to work an hour before the kid goes to school. Once the kid gets just a little older he will almost certainly be one of these chronically truant kids. What is it the state expects him to do?

Glass
22nd August 2010, 08:17 PM
If we did not live in a "limitted liability" society the parents would take the responsibility that was necessary. If I did something wrong my parents dealt with it. As a kid I got marched to the police station for a lecture from Mr Plod for trying to pinch a lolly of some sort.. can't recall what. I think I was about 5 or 6 at the time. I claimed indemnity based on "offer to treat" but that didn't stick. Oh well.

Down here under, parents have their "benefits" withheld if their kids don't go to school. That's child allowances, pension entitlements, tax breaks etc.

Ponce
22nd August 2010, 09:01 PM
I remember back in Miami I was going to "Miami Tech High" and one days me and five others decided to skip school.......the next day we were all standing on one line in front of the school principal...he asked everyone their excuse for missing school and told each one of them to bring a note from their parents the next day..........I was the last one in line so I told him "Well sir, it was to nice of a day to come to school so I went to the beach" hahahahahahah, he smiled at me and told me "Don't do it again" and that was it.

Last Wendsday a car came from a cross street and didn't stop and almost hit me, I was driving one of my scooters........there was a cop right behind me and gave the guy a ticket, he then came to me and asked me if I was OK and then he wanted my paper work, he looked at my license and asked me "How come you don't have a motorcycle license?" and I told him "The lady at DMV told me to practice till I was sure that I could pass the driving test?, cop "And how long ago was that?", Ponce "About five years ago", cop standing there thinking about it and then asked "And how long before you feel confident enough to take the test?", Ponce thinking about for a few seconds and then to the cop "About ten more years?"..............the cop never changes his look give Ponce back his paper work and say "Thank you sir, please drive carefully".......................Ponce stood there for about ten minutes praying that he would wake up hahahahahahahahahaha.

mightymanx
22nd August 2010, 11:32 PM
I wonder where the kid is going to live if the parent is doing a year in the county hoosgoow? I actually know a single father here in California whose son hates school. The kid is only 11, and the father has to call him every morning from work and harangue him to get off his ass and go to school. My friend goes to work an hour before the kid goes to school. Once the kid gets just a little older he will almost certainly be one of these chronically truant kids. What is it the state expects him to do?


Simple drop the kid off 1 1/2 hour early. Tell hm to study on a bench while waiting for the school to open.

Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 11:39 PM
I wonder where the kid is going to live if the parent is doing a year in the county hoosgoow?


In taxpayer-funded abuse centers called "foster parent" housing, of course!



What is it the state expects him to do?


Fall to to his knees.

The march towards total government continues. You can't "legally" discipline a kid effectively, but you are also expected to force them to comply with the dictates of the government.

Phoenix
22nd August 2010, 11:42 PM
If we did not live in a "limitted liability" society the parents would take the responsibility that was necessary.


It is ILLEGAL for the parents to act. Any discipline beyond "Johnny, you mustn't do that, it's not right" is subject to intervention by CPS and referral to "Family Court." Oh, and you don't get a jury in the star chambers called "Family Court."

Neuro
23rd August 2010, 01:05 AM
Dont they have statistics showing that kids who had parents going to jail were more likely to commit crimes? Further wouldn't it be difficult to find foster parents to a kid who doesn't want to go to school.

Phoenix
23rd August 2010, 01:15 AM
Further wouldn't it be difficult to find foster parents to a kid who doesn't want to go to school.


Most foster families are in it for the money; pretty hefty amounts in this state. I don't imagine enforcement will be too readily forthcoming in such a case; it would reflect badly on the local CPS agency.

Neuro
23rd August 2010, 01:34 AM
Further wouldn't it be difficult to find foster parents to a kid who doesn't want to go to school.


Most foster families are in it for the money; pretty hefty amounts in this state. I don't imagine enforcement will be too readily forthcoming in such a case; it would reflect badly on the local CPS agency.
Yes, I would imagine so...