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wildcard
25th August 2010, 04:07 AM
Rigged election? Or are there that many idiots in AZ? I used to think the same thing in MASS with teddy kennedy....


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41437.html

*on a brighter political note, Biden looks like death eating a cracker. He's got less than a year or two.

@ the 1 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUHDAAqEIWk&feature=player_embedded#!

1970 silver art
25th August 2010, 04:13 AM
Not very surprising to me that he won. He said the right lies to the right people and they liked and believed him. McCain was a better liar than J.D. Hayworth.

Olmstein
25th August 2010, 04:31 AM
I predicted months ago that McCain would win. JD was just a stalking horse anyway.

People are for the most part stupid and afraid of change. Not just in Arizona, either.

Celtic Rogue
25th August 2010, 05:58 AM
My God I cant believe it! Same ole same ole!!!!! This country is doomed for sure if the people cant see that these people are crooks and liars! I am afraid its going to take bullits to cause the needed change! ... and I had high hopes of seeing the change start with these elections!

Large Sarge
25th August 2010, 06:49 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> August 25, 2010 NA (Network America) e-wire
>>
>> Ha! Ha! Ha! Computers say “McCain” won!
>>
>> As long as Americans are dumb enough to let Mossad
>> and Rothschild agents “count” our vote on easily
>> rigged computers each election night – we are
>> going to continue sliding into Communism and
>> economic devastation, as well as every other kind
>> of devastation.
>>
>> Let me make this clear: I do NOT --- NOT – NOT
>> believe that tired old John McCain won his Senate
>> primary race against J.D. Hayworth tonight. I
>> believe that in Arizona – as now in all the other
>> 50 states – ELECTION NIGHT IS JUST ANOTHER
>> COMPUTER GAME.
>>
>> Are you kidding me? In a state that is already
>> taking up arms against illegal invasion from
>> Mexico – the voters are going to re-elect this
>> tired old establishment HACK, who has betrayed
>> Arizona and the USA over and over and over again
>> in his Senate career?
>>
>> Are you kidding me?
>>
>> The official – and easily rigged – computer count
>> tells us that McCain is leading main challenger
>> J.D. Hayworth – almost two to one. (!!!!!)
>>
>> Remember, this is a REPUBLICAN PRIMARY – not a
>> general election.
>>
>> If the people of Arizona are not going to show
>> their disgust with a Ruling Elite
>> “Man-of-the-Evening” like McCain now – when would
>> they ever do it?
>>
>> By the way, McCain has proven to be an obedient
>> front man for “ZOG” – the Zionist Occupation
>> Government running the USA -- since the beginning
>> of his political career. Dr. Ray Jurjevich in his
>> 1987 book, “F.O.J. Syndrome”, around page 151 if
>> memory serves, already pegged McCain as a stooge
>> of the Talmudic/Zionist Lobby who was being
>> groomed to be a Presidential candidate. (F.O.J.
>> stands for “Fear of the Jews”, which is taken from
>> Scripture as in after the Crucifixion and death of
>> Christ, the Apostles hid in the upper room “for
>> fear of the Jews”, which at that point had taken
>> on a religious significance for the Pharisees and
>> Sadducees who had opposed and plotted against
>> Jesus.)
>>
>>
>> HERE’S HOW THE MOSSAD AND ROTHSCHILD/FED/WALL
>> STREET AGENTS DO IT TO US EVERY ELECTION NIGHT
>>
>> By the way, the Mossad is Israel’s version of the
>> CIA. The CIA, with it’s own dark side, was
>> established in only 1947 as a
>> Rockefeller/Rothschild spy and assassination
>> operation. There is a good faction in the CIA, but
>> there is also a bad faction.
>>
>> As for the Mossad, their public motto is “Make War
>> By Way of Deception.” Not “Veritas (Truth)” like
>> Harvard. Not “Semper Fidelis (Always Faithful)”
>> like the US Marines. Not a positive motto like
>> every other institution in the world (no matter
>> how bad some of these institutions have become –
>> they at least have a positive motto!). But
>> Israeli’s Mossad has an evil public motto: “Make
>> war by way of deception.”
>>
>> And “Election” night in the USA is frightening war
>> by deception against the people of the United
>> States. It should be called, “Selection Night.”
>>
>> Most people just can’t conceive of the tenacity
>> and evil-mindedness of the enemy we are now
>> facing. These anti-American, anti-Christian
>> vultures make King George III look like a Saint.
>>
>>
>> But how does the Ruling Elite keep putting in
>> their front men – and keep out just about anybody
>> that might have a tinge of independent patriotism
>> left in them?
>>
>> Here’s how:
>>
>> * All documentation below can be found on the
>> right hand side of the home page at votefraud.org,
>> unless otherwise noted.
>>
>> * The switch to easily rigged computers began
>> about 1973. (See “The Greatest Cover-up of all:
>> Votefraud in America.”)
>>
>> * By 1988, the process was complete except in most
>> of New Hampshire and a few very small counties out
>> west. By 2010, 80% of New Hampshire has also
>> fallen to computerized “elections.” (See the
>> opening paragraphs of “How They Could Steal the
>> Election this Time” by Ronnie Dugger; also, the
>> book, “Votescam: The Stealing of America” by Jim
>> and Ken Collier, on Amazon or other book sources.)
>>
>> * This means that the traitors running the
>> National Republican Committee and the National
>> Democratic Committees pressured, cajoled, helped
>> bribe – or whatever was necessary – the 50 state
>> election officials and 3141 local county election
>> officials -- into delegating the “counting” to
>> basically four mega-companies. These companies
>> changed their names over the years, but in 2010
>> they are Diebold, ES & S (Election Systems and
>> Software), Hart, and Sequoia. (See the opening
>> paragraphs of “How They Could Steal the Election
>> this Time” by Ronnie Dugger.)
>>
>> * All four of these crooked and treasonous
>> companies operate the same, and the only rule is
>> that all ballots must be fed into their machines
>> as soon as each voter has marked his or hers, --
>> and the ballots are never to be seen again by
>> citizens, candidates, or news reporters on
>> election day. In fact, the police are ordered to
>> arrest any citizen that tries to get a look at
>> what the ballots actually say on election night.
>> If you don’t believe it – try to get access to
>> verify the computer count in your county on
>> election day. (See the youtube video, “South
>> Carolina, Super Tuesday, and Ron Paul”, and the
>> article at votefraud.org by Dr. Philip O’Halloran,
>> “Pandora’s Black Box: Did it really count your
>> vote?”)
>>
>> * The local election officials is that they step
>> aside and let one of these four sinister companies
>> run the “election” for each county. This is their
>> sin – the locals are not in on the scam at the
>> level I am here detailing, except in the rare
>> cases where a county election official has come
>> from one of these companies. (See the youtube
>> video, “South Carolina, Super Tuesday, and Ron
>> Paul”, and the Relevance magazine article at
>> votefraud.org by Dr. Philip O’Halloran, “Pandora’s
>> Black Box: Did it really count your vote?”)
>>
>> * Now, those who “make war by way of deception”
>> sit a room in New York City or Tel Aviv or Omaha –
>> or anywhere else – and monitor the actual election
>> results of every key Congressional, Senate and
>> Presidential race -- in real time. They do this by
>> a direct feed allowed by the local election
>> officials into the mainframe computer, or by
>> remote access to the modem in each election
>> computer in each county. This would be done by
>> hare wife, wireless, cell phone, or satellite
>> technology. (See “How a Private Company Counts our
>> Votes on Election Night”, an eye-witness report by
>> Christopher Bollyn in Cook County, Illinois in
>> 2004; this is also covered in Dr. O’Halloran’s
>> Relevance magazine article. )
>>
>> * These Human Monitors, by logic and by all the
>> evidence which is available, are part of the dark
>> side of the Mossad and CIA, and sometimes dovetail
>> with former KGB agents, and perhaps agents from
>> sinister organizations we have never heard of;
>> they are all more committed to Israel and the
>> Rothschild central Banking shadow government, than
>> they are to the USA. (See “Death Threats Enter the
>> Votescam Investigation for the 2nd Time” here:
>> http://lists.topica.com/lists/networkamerica/read/message.html?sort=&mid=1303274028
>> -- and “Bollyn on Fictional Elections” found
>> here: http://www.bollyn.com/electronic-voting --
>> Also, see “The Money Masters” on video.google.com
>> – and – the book “The Creature from Jekyll Island”
>> by G. Edward Griffin – and the book “The Secrets
>> of the Federal Reserve” by Eustace Mullins – also
>> the astounding collection of information about the
>> “Shadow Government” at www.IamTheWitness.com )
>>
>> * Often the computer election programs have been
>> adjusted in advance to move enough votes from the
>> good candidate to the bad candidate, so that the
>> computer declares the bad candidate the “winner.”
>> If both candidates are equally bad, then there is
>> no harm in the shadow government letting the chips
>> fall where they may. However, often the Shadow Gov
>> wants Republicans in so that the Republican
>> President can have a majority to approve of going
>> to war for a generation and pass the Police-State
>> Act, -- uh – I mean, the Patriot Act (as in the
>> 2000 election), or, alternatively, they want the
>> Democratic President to have a bullet-proof
>> majority to pass Communist Health Care (as in the
>> 2008 election), so that decides how the computers
>> are rigged, when necessary. (See “Did you know
>> about Election Nite Computer Breakdown in the 2008
>> Chabot-Driehaus Cong Race?” found here:
>> http://lists.topica.com/lists/networkamerica/read/message.html?mid=914799335&sort=d&start=641
>> )
>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Large Sarge
25th August 2010, 06:49 AM
* By the way, the crooked courts have ruled over
>> and over again that no one is allowed to see the
>> software provided by these four sinister election
>> companies – which tell the software what to do on
>> election day and election night. (See the book:
>> Votescam: The Stealing of America; the online book
>> “Black Box Voting” by Bev Harris, free online; the
>> excellent website of investigator Lynn Landes,
>> found here:
>> http://www.thelandesreport.com/VotingSecurity.htm
>> -- and Vickie Karp’s book, “Hacked”)
>>
>> * Now, if the Big Media propaganda and the
>> pre-programming of the software is not enough to
>> steal the election for the selected candidate –
>> then the Mossad/CIA type agents monitoring the
>> election actually stop the computerized
>> electionprogram in midstream, and re-program it so
>> that their SELECTED candidate wins.
>>
>> When this happens, the local computers guys who
>> have loaded in the Big Company’s software
>> sometimes tell the local news reporters that the
>> computers have broken down – and the public hears
>> about the computer breakdown over the local news.
>> This has happened many hundreds of times since
>> 1973. Often, though, the public never hears of
>> such “breakdowns”. (See “Did you know about
>> Election Nite Computer Breakdown in the 2008
>> Chabot-Driehaus Cong Race?” found here:
>> http://lists.topica.com/lists/networkamerica/read/message.html?mid=914799335&sort=d&start=641
>> )
>>
>>
>> * If any of the candidates wants a “re-count” –
>> and usually none of them do – then it will be done
>> on the same easily rigged computers – and the
>> challenging candidate must specify a week or so in
>> advance of the recount – which 3% or so of the
>> precincts that they want to have hand counted in
>> public. This gives the representative of whichever
>> of the four companies is providing the “help” to
>> that county – time to switch whatever ballots are
>> necessary to make the computer count come “true.”
>> (You’ll have to check this one out in your own
>> county, but it is mentioned in “A House without
>> Doors” on the votefraud.org home page, and is
>> dramatically covered in a Cleveland, Ohio recount
>> shown in the HBO documentary, “Hacking Democracy”,
>> available through blockbuster or online.)
>>
>> * The 1996 theft of the Arizona Republican
>> Presidential primary from Pat Buchanan was
>> unbelievable from several angles. This is
>> especially relevant in this article since John
>> McCain was “re-elected” in Arizona tonight. (See
>> “A House without Doors” at votefraud.org; this
>> article also shows the full complicity of the 5
>> Big TV Networks and AP wire, as does the book,
>> “Votescam: The Stealing of America” by the late
>> Collier Brothers, especially chapters 15, “Pieces
>> of the Puzzle”, and 16, “The Thirteenth Floor”.)
>>
>> * If you want to get the whole picture as quickly
>> as possible, read the Relevance article by Dr.
>> Phil O’Halloran and “A House without Doors” by
>> this writer at votefraud.org – then see on
>> YouTube, “South Carolina, Super Tuesday, and Ron
>> Paul” – and then see the HBO documentary, “Hacking
>> Democracy”, which you can probably still see
>> online in 9 parts on YouTube, even though I don’t
>> think it’s supposed to be there.)
>>
>> UNINFORMED MAY BELIEVE THE ABOVE IS AN
>> OVERSIMPLIFICATION – BUT IT IS NOT
>>
>> All of the articles down the right hand side of
>> votefraud.org tell some part of the above truths –
>> and many articles in our Network America ewires
>> over the last ten years detail other aspects of
>> what is covered above. (See below for how to
>> access all Network America ewires since January
>> 10, 2000.)
>>
>> THE SOLUTION
>>
>> The solution is to demand computer-free,
>> machine-free elections – with the paper ballots
>> marked by the voters during the day, kept in a box
>> before the judges and any public observers all day
>> long. Then the box is opened in front of everyone
>> present and all factions at closing time. Then the
>> ballots are counted right there, at the
>> neighborhood precinct, in public, by randomly
>> selected voters from that neighborhood precinct.
>> Each team handles about 50 ballots, and should be
>> paid $100 for several hours of work. Then the
>> results are posted in public on the wall BEFORE
>> the votes leave the precinct.
>>
>> Alert campaigns should have someone at every
>> precinct write down the totals and THEN add all
>> precincts up for themselves, to prevent the kind
>> of vote fixing that the Iowa STATE Republican
>> Party did against Pat Buchanan in the 1996
>> Presidential race in the Iowa Caucus. In that
>> Caucus in 1996, the locals were all honest and
>> counted the votes in the open at each locality, --
>> but the state party officials collaborated with
>> Voter News Service, owned jointly then by the four
>> big TV Networks and AP Wire, to simply report
>> false totals to the public via AP wire; no one was
>> watching the crooks at the top but our team, and
>> that’s how we caught them. (See “A House without
>> Doors” at votefraud.org)
>>
>> PLEASE NOTE: Crooks and dupes, and those who just
>> need to hang onto their job, at all levels of the
>> election process will OPPOSE this open vote count
>> by the neighborhood citizens with ALL THEIR MIGHT.
>> If it is done that way, it is impossible for
>> anyone to steal elections from a central location
>> on EASILY-RIGGED computer systems. And that’s why
>> the in-place election officials oppose the
>> computer-free, neighborhood citizen ballot count.
>>
>> DIRE, BUT UNAVOIDABLE, CONCLUSION
>>
>> As shocking as it may seem, these computerized
>> elections are ILLEGAL. The Supreme Court has ruled
>> twice that Americans not only have a right to cast
>> a ballot, but also have a right to KNOW that their
>> votes were counted PROPERLY and ACCURATELY. This
>> is only the most BASIC COMMON SENSE for a free
>> country. (See Supreme Court rulings of U.S v
>> Mosley, 1915, and Reynolds v Sims, 1964)
>>
>> When the ballots are snatched from the sight of
>> the people and put behind police guard so that the
>> crooks and traitors at Diebold, Hart, Sequoia, and
>> ES & S -- can steal the country for their bosses
>> at the FED and on Wall Street via their easily
>> rigged election computers – then the chain of
>> evidence is broken, and none of the candidates so
>> SELECTED by the computers can prove that they
>> really won the election.
>>
>> That means, Mommies and Daddies and Boys and
>> Girls, that the current government of the
>> counties, states, and of the United States itself
>> – is now, strictly speaking, illegitimate. For
>> instance, Bush 41 can’t prove he was really
>> elected in 1988; Clinton cannot proved he was
>> elected President in 1992 and 1996. Bush 43 cannot
>> prove he was elected in 2000 and 2004. And Obummer
>> cannot prove he was elected in 2008.
>>
>> And McCain cannot prove he was elected tonight in
>> the 2010 Arizona Republican Party.
>>
>> Does everyone get the idea?
>>
>> As Communist Tyrant Joe Stalin said: “Those who
>> cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
>> votes decide everything.”
>>
>> That’s the way votes were counted in Communist
>> Russia – behind Police Guard so the everyday
>> people couldn’t see what was happening. And that’s
>> the way OUR votes have been counted in the USA
>> since 1988 for all Presidential elections, all
>> Senate elections, and all Congressional Elections
>> (and all local and state elections), with only
>> some of New Hampshire and a few very small
>> counties out west excepted.
>>
>> THIS is a conspiracy between the four big Election
>> companies (who are probably the same company
>> operating behind four names), the 5 Big TV
>> Networks and AP wire (who are also the same
>> operation hiding behind 6 or more names), and the
>> real power behind the Democratic National
>> Committee and the Republican National Committee,
>> which are, as Pat Buchanan accurately stated in
>> the 2000 Presidential election, “two wings on the
>> same bird of prey.”
>>
>> None of the major talking heads or big talk show
>> hosts are allowed to talk about this in the way I
>> have talked about it here to you. Lou Dobbs did so
>> for a while on his CNN show, but was eventually
>> warned enough times to quit covering the computer
>> election fraud issue, immigration, and Obama’s
>> refusal to produce his birth certificate -- that
>> he quit in disgust rather than be fired by the
>> Russian Khazar “Jew” (Now an American citizen –
>> HA!), CNN President Jon Klein, who was repeatedly
>> writing him memos to quit covering these subjects.
>> This happened just a year or so ago.
>>
>> A good quote to close this Network America ewire
>> with is from Dr. David Dill of Stanford
>> University, who has extensively investigated
>> computerized elections:
>>
>> "Why am I always being asked to prove these
>> systems aren't secure? The burden of proof ought
>> to be on the vendor. You ask about the hardware.
>> 'Secret.' The software? 'Secret.' What's the
>> cryptography? 'Can't tell you because that'll
>> compromise the secrecy of the machines.'...
>> Federal testing procedures? 'Secret'! Results of
>> the tests? 'Secret'! Basically we are required to
>> have blind faith." -- Dr. David L. Dill,
>> Professor, Computer Science, Stanford University
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Ares
25th August 2010, 06:50 AM
Too many retired and elderly people who think that idiot is a "war hero".

They deserve what they elect. Just sucks that we have to suffer through the unconstitutional legislation that this moron churns out.

iOWNme
25th August 2010, 06:53 AM
People get what they vote for.


And then I get what they vote for.

wildcard
25th August 2010, 07:11 AM
I'm with LS. I'm starting to think maybe the masses aren't as ignorant as they try to make us believe they are. Of course there are plenty of dipsh*ts, but I think most people have some sense. I don't trust the count.

*as long as they can convince people that everyone else is an idiot then there's no reason to try and change things. "Everyone is just stupid! Can't be helped! They deserve it!" I don't buy it. I've read a lot of comments around the net lately that say people are awake/waking up to the bs that is going on.

Olmstein
25th August 2010, 07:13 AM
Too many retired and elderly people who think that idiot is a "war hero".

They deserve what they elect. Just sucks that we have to suffer through the unconstitutional legislation that this moron churns out.


Those who think this election was "stolen" by the computers need to go to Sun City and talk to the over 70 crowd and see who they voted for.

And JD "porkbarrel" Hayworth was not really a good alternative.

Large Sarge
25th August 2010, 07:32 AM
Too many retired and elderly people who think that idiot is a "war hero".

They deserve what they elect. Just sucks that we have to suffer through the unconstitutional legislation that this moron churns out.


Those who think this election was "stolen" by the computers need to go to Sun City and talk to the over 70 crowd and see who they voted for.

And JD "porkbarrel" Hayworth was not really a good alternative.


you are just speculating, without a receipt to verify by hand count, no one really knows

Primary turnouts are notoriously low, and Arizona is in a meltdown with the border, a lot of angry voters, McCain has consistently neglected the border/immigration issues.

just not add up IMO

and even if you were right, I would think you would want verification via paper receipt and hand count.

k-os
25th August 2010, 08:00 AM
I am open to the possibility that the elections are rigged.

However, if it's not rigged, it's possible that people vote for whatever name they have heard the most. They vote familiarity. It's the same reason why they shop where they shop - they've been told to by the TV and radio.

wildcard
25th August 2010, 08:02 AM
Lying Dirt Bag John McCain Buys GOP Primary

McCain spends $21 million on ads to fool voters in Arizona.

by James Buchanan

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=4133

Let's see how many votes did he get? Like 600k or 700k? 30 bucks a vote...

*my bad, only 281,000 votes. (so make it 75 bucks per vote) Hell he could have just handed it out (but that would be helping the citizens of AZ :P ).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/elections/2010/august-24-races/arizona.html

**I see that's only 56% of the precincts so just safely call it between 30-60 bucks per vote. He won 56% of the vote.

Joe King
25th August 2010, 08:11 AM
I am open to the possibility that the elections are rigged.

However, if it's not rigged, it's possible that people vote for whatever name they have heard the most. They vote familiarity. It's the same reason why they shop where they shop - they've been told to by the TV and radio.
Problem is, there's no way to really know because with secret ballots, only the counters know for sure.

What we need is public voting. That way everybody knows who voted for who, and it'd be obvious if they weren't counted right.

DMac
25th August 2010, 08:18 AM
I am open to the possibility that the elections are rigged.

However, if it's not rigged, it's possible that people vote for whatever name they have heard the most. They vote familiarity. It's the same reason why they shop where they shop - they've been told to by the TV and radio.
Problem is, there's no way to really know because with secret ballots, only the counters know for sure.

What we need is public voting. That way everybody knows who voted for who, and it'd be obvious if they weren't counted right.






Public voting. Public banking. Full disclosure for each.

What a concept.

wildcard
25th August 2010, 08:22 AM
I wonder what Arlen Specter is up to this morning.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/24/hagel-bucks-party-lines-to-endorse-sestak/

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbq__ZoMF-hjdov745fPeP4Oj-wl6pTco4OG8pzfP11SD4ue4&t=1&usg=__oijPqDT8A4SYqZS9xk6t1JZZhGw=

Book
25th August 2010, 08:23 AM
>> By the way, McCain has proven to be an obedient
>> front man for “ZOG” – the Zionist Occupation
>> Government running the USA -- since the beginning
>> of his political career. Dr. Ray Jurjevich in his
>> 1987 book, “F.O.J. Syndrome”, around page 151 if
>> memory serves, already pegged McCain as a stooge
>> of the Talmudic/Zionist Lobby who was being
>> groomed to be a Presidential candidate.



http://www.mujahideenryder.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/mccain-lieberman-israel-jew-zionist.jpg

Zionist stooge.

:oo-->

wildcard
25th August 2010, 08:26 AM
They have their hands so far up his ass I'm surprised he doesn't slip into yiddish.

From the Buchanan article I linked above:


With the skill of a chameleon changing colors from blue to red, John McCain transformed himself from a whorish crook, who was part of the Keating Five, and from a CO-SPONSOR of the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill into a “respectable” conservative who “never” ever sponsored Amnesty. Remember those hundreds of billions of dollars in TARP bail outs that conservatives vehemently and loudly opposed, which McCain supported anyway. Well, it looks like McCain got plenty of kick backs. McCain just spent more than 21 million dollars to buy the GOP primary.


*I never understood how people saw him as a hero anyhow. He got shot down...that makes him a loser! And he helped burn down the Forrestal. How did this cockroach survive?

willie pete
25th August 2010, 08:29 AM
I can't understand why people keep voting for this guy, 24 years in the Senate? He should've been gone a long time ago.
If I were a senator from AZ, I'd be screaming about border control, and what has this guy done about it? another amnesty bill? Reagan signed an amnesty bill back in the 80's, now they want to do it again? ...so every 25 years we're going to "legalize' millions and millions of people?

Large Sarge
25th August 2010, 08:30 AM
believe this says it all.
Praising of Henry Ford and "Americanization"
In his 2006 book, Whatever it Takes: Illegal Immigration, Border Security, and the War on Terror, Hayworth praised automaker Henry Ford's ideas on the early 20th-century concept of "Americanization," endorsing them as a model for integrating immigrants into American society. Many historians view Ford's views in this area as anti-Semitic. In response, the Jewish News of Greater Phoenix sharply criticized Hayworth in a August 2006 editorial. Matt Lambert, a spokesman for Hayworth, responded by saying, "This has nothing to do with Henry Ford or antisemitism; it’s all about politics." [6]


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Henry_Ford

http://www.forward.com/article/arizona-pol-triggers-flap-by-praising-henry-ford/

Book
25th August 2010, 08:40 AM
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/mccain_1.jpg

Never underestimate the power of shekels.

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wildcard
25th August 2010, 08:47 AM
He's the frikkin Manchurian Candidate for crying out loud.

Buster
25th August 2010, 09:19 AM
Not only did McCain spend 21M he spent it well. His adds made Hayworth look like a bigger crook than most elected officials. It was a slick hatchet job that Hayworth did not answer well.

Whether there was vote fraud or not, most people will chalk it up to a much richer and better campaign.

Book
25th August 2010, 09:26 AM
His ads made Hayworth look like a bigger crook than most elected officials.



ZOG gives us a choice only between their two controlled stooges.

???

sirgonzo420
25th August 2010, 09:41 AM
His ads made Hayworth look like a bigger crook than most elected officials.



ZOG gives us a choice only between their two controlled stooges.

???


At least they give us a choice!

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But on second thought, maybe it's for the best if *they* choose for us.... they are the "Chosen" after all!

wildcard
25th August 2010, 10:08 AM
Which one of you frikkin jews is stealing my material?

http://g2.gstatic.com/news/screenshots/YwRQXS4_kG6NiM-cropped.png

Fess up Marty BECKERMAN....if that's your real name. Check the time stamp.

Grand Master Melon
25th August 2010, 10:42 AM
We had a choice between 3 douchebags. I opted to not choose any of them.

Apparition
25th August 2010, 11:14 AM
Would it have mattered if any of them won?

Grand Master Melon
25th August 2010, 11:17 AM
Would it have mattered if any of them won?


Exactly.

wildcard
25th August 2010, 11:18 AM
I'm only using it as a gauge of where the herd is at. Either people are still ate up with the stupid or the elections are a total sham.

*and if you can read between the propaganda lies you can still get some useful information. If they truly had to spend 21 million to get this POS rino back into office then they are having to work pretty hard and spend quite a bit to fight the grassroots people that are looking behind the curtain.

Book
25th August 2010, 02:00 PM
McCain gave Arizona to Mexico and the USA to Israel.

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Sparky
25th August 2010, 03:01 PM
Would it have mattered if any of them won?


Exactly.


Yes, it would have mattered. Elections from here on out are about repeatedly booting out incumbents until it leads to a behavioral change. This is why I was pleased to see Scott Brown win here in Massachusetts. If things don't change, we should boot him out, too. Things will change when it becomes politically expeditious for them to change. It might take many elections cycles. I was hoping it would start in earnest this time around. I find this result very discouraging. The only redemption will be if he gets defeated in November. Otherwise, Arizona has spit the bit.

iOWNme
25th August 2010, 07:01 PM
http://www.seewithyourmind.org/images/M_images/mccainbrainwashed.jpg

Phoenix
25th August 2010, 07:06 PM
Either people are still ate up with the stupid or the elections are a total sham.


Both.

The electorate loves their degenerate politicians, career-politician Ron Paul included.

And yes, the "elections" are a sham, just like the "elections" in the Soviet Union or East Germany. Pre-approved candidates in every acceptable political flavor. "Choices" that always lead to the same outcome.

If the People had brains, they'd de-register themselves to vote. Because: VOTING IS CONSENT.

EE_
25th August 2010, 07:50 PM
McAmnisty sat on his ass in a prison camp for 5+ years while our soldiers were fighting the Vietnamese, and this makes him a bigger hero then those that were doing the fighting?

As far as the election of this liberal pos...there really was no choice between him and JD Douchebag.
When there is no one to vote for, people should vote with their wallets to show their disapproval by removing money from banks and investments. Even better, stop paying taxes!