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BabushkaLady
25th August 2010, 05:50 PM
AUGUST 23RD, 2010

Steve Jobs Is Watching You: Apple Seeking to Patent Spyware
Deeplink by Julie Samuels

It looks like Apple, Inc., is exploring a new business opportunity: spyware and what we're calling "traitorware." While users were celebrating the new jailbreaking and unlocking exemptions, Apple was quietly preparing to apply for a patent on technology that, among other things, would allow Apple to identify and punish users who take advantage of those exemptions or otherwise tinker with their devices. This patent application does nothing short of providing a roadmap for how Apple can — and presumably will — spy on its customers and control the way its customers use Apple products. As Sony-BMG learned, spying on your customers is bad for business. And the kind of spying enabled here is especially creepy — it's not just spyware, it's "traitorware," since it is designed to allow Apple to retaliate against you if you do something Apple doesn't like.

Essentially, Apple's patent provides for a device to investigate a user's identity, ostensibly to determine if and when that user is "unauthorized," or, in other words, stolen. More specifically, the technology would allow Apple to record the voice of the device's user, take a photo of the device's user's current location or even detect and record the heartbeat of the device's user. Once an unauthorized user is identified, Apple could wipe the device and remotely store the user's "sensitive data." Apple's patent application suggests it may use the technology not just to limit "unauthorized" uses of its phones but also shut down the phone if and when it has been stolen.

However, Apple's new technology would do much more. This patented device enables Apple to secretly collect, store and potentially use sensitive biometric information about you. This is dangerous in two ways: First, it is far more than what is needed just to protect you against a lost or stolen phone. It's extremely privacy-invasive and it puts you at great risk if Apple's data on you are compromised. But it's not only the biometric data that are a concern. Second, Apple's technology includes various types of usage monitoring — also very privacy-invasive. This patented process could be used to retaliate against you if you jailbreak or tinker with your device in ways that Apple views as "unauthorized" even if it is perfectly legal under copyright law.

Here's a sample of the kinds of information Apple plans to collect:

• The system can take a picture of the user's face, "without a flash, any noise, or any indication that a picture is being taken to prevent the current user from knowing he is being photographed";

• The system can record the user's voice, whether or not a phone call is even being made;

• The system can determine the user's unique individual heartbeat "signature";

• To determine if the device has been hacked, the device can watch for "a sudden increase in memory usage of the electronic device";

• The user's "Internet activity can be monitored or any communication packets that are served to the electronic device can be recorded"; and

• The device can take a photograph of the surrounding location to determine where it is being used.

In other words, Apple will know who you are, where you are, and what you are doing and saying and even how fast your heart is beating. In some embodiments of Apple's "invention," this information "can be gathered every time the electronic device is turned on, unlocked, or used." When an "unauthorized use" is detected, Apple can contact a "responsible party." A "responsible party" may be the device's owner, it may also be "proper authorities or the police."

Apple does not explain what it will do with all of this collected information on its users, how long it will maintain this information, how it will use this information, or if it will share this information with other third parties. We know based on long experience that if Apple collects this information, law enforcement will come for it, and may even order Apple to turn it on for reasons other than simply returning a lost phone to its owner.

This patent is downright creepy and invasive — certainly far more than would be needed to respond to the possible loss of a phone. Spyware, and its new cousin traitorware, will hurt customers and companies alike — Apple should shelve this idea before it backfires on both it and its customers.

Link (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/steve-jobs-watching-you-apple-seeking-patent-0)

Serpo
25th August 2010, 06:05 PM
Sounds like this thing can do everything except slap the hand cuffs on the offender,maybe thats in the updated version.

As it stands it can take a mug shot,find out where you are and ring the cops.

Phoenix
25th August 2010, 06:12 PM
After witnessing Crapple's "Digital Rights Management" orgy in the last several years, especially with the infamous iTunes "I'm sorry, Dave" controlware, one has to be lacking endowment in the cranium to buy Crapple products. Even Microsh*t products are better, and that's pretty sad.

A cell phone is a cell phone, a computer is a computer. Get a cell phone if you want to make calls or text, get a netbook if you want to surf the Internet on the go. And REMOVE any bloatware and/or controlware on either, before use.

EE_
25th August 2010, 06:54 PM
I though Jobs was dead...what happened?

Glass
25th August 2010, 06:59 PM
Sounds like this thing can do everything except slap the hand cuffs on the offender,maybe thats in the updated version.

As it stands it can take a mug shot,find out where you are and ring the cops.


RFID in the brain anyone?

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sunshine05
25th August 2010, 07:24 PM
I was thinking about this today......all the openness of Facebook and shared pictures and encouraging people to "like" every article they read or "share" it, etc. And on the treadmill I caught one of those reality TV shows on Bravo and thought that maybe this is all part of getting us used to being spied on. Think about how many reality shows are on now and it shows what should be intimate moments and conversations, etc. Why? Because they are showing that every day people are cool with being taped all day long. It really is sick.

dysgenic
25th August 2010, 08:02 PM
VERY interesting observation and insight, and I agree. Also, videocameras are everywhere now... in the office, on the streets, in buildings... etc. What's the next logical step? Once your mind becomes attuned to the true motivations of the sickos in charge, everyday life becomes a truly eye opening experience.

dys



I was thinking about this today......all the openness of Facebook and shared pictures and encouraging people to "like" every article they read or "share" it, etc. And on the treadmill I caught one of those reality TV shows on Bravo and thought that maybe this is all part of getting us used to being spied on. Think about how many reality shows are on now and it shows what should be intimate moments and conversations, etc. Why? Because they are showing that every day people are cool with being taped all day long. It really is sick.

Gaillo
3rd September 2010, 02:09 PM
After witnessing Crapple's "Digital Rights Management" orgy in the last several years, especially with the infamous iTunes "I'm sorry, Dave" controlware, one has to be lacking endowment in the cranium to buy Crapple products.

I guess I'm lacking in "endowment in the cranium" then. I personally own 2 apple products, a 32GB iPod touch and a 64GB G3 iPad. I wouldn't trade them for any other MP3 player or tablet computer out there - regardless of the price. I like them that much!

I've always been a "PC" guy - every computer I own was either built by myself or purchased as an assembled Windows notebook/netbook. However, I've always thought the Mac vs. PC debates were pretty stupid... it's a tool, and different tools have different applications for different people. I don't have any problem or "guilt" about owning, using, and enjoying both brands/types.

As for the whole DRM bit, you only need to use Apple's DRM if you are buying tunes and videos from apple's iTunes store, something that I don't do (owning a vast MP3 library that I've compiled from my purchased CD's and vinyl.) I can send my 2 apple devices standard unprotected, non-DRM MP3 and video files and it plays them all just fine.

As for the spyware, Apple's ability to turn off your machine remotely, etc. - it's just the price that one pays for using that particular product - and as long as you don't do stupid shiit like jailbreaking your devices, Apple has no REASON to disable or maim your device - that wouldn't be good for business and they want repeat customers if possible.

I've read, posted, and moderated this forum using both my iPod touch and my iPad, and find both devices to be excellent, if not exceptional internet "windows". I keep hundreds of digital books in PDF and Text form (again, non-DRM!) on both devices, and use them heavily for ebook reading when I'm not using them for their normal music and net applications. I've taken them on business trips with me and watched movies, checked email, reviewed client documents, and taken notes/contacts/etc.

Is Apple and its devices perfect? Hell no. They're a PITA to sync, I absolutely HATE iTunes, moving data in and out of them can sometimes be a pain, and the OS definitely has limitations when compared to similar PC products. Do they fill a particular nitch in an innovative and useful way? Definitely. In a BIG, beautiful way. I love my Apple machines, unapologetically. They are useful to me, in specific "nitch" ways that none of my PC products are, and I feel they are a great value for the $$$ spent for what I get out of them.

If this makes me deficient in the cranial department, so be it.

BabushkaLady
3rd September 2010, 02:41 PM
I love my Macs too. I was Apple before it was cool. They had a t-shirt out way back when Windows came out. The shirt read: Been there, done that. ----I loved it!

I just won't ever own any phone that has so many tracking capabilities. I like my phones to just be phones. (and alarm clocks!)

Twisted Titan
3rd September 2010, 04:59 PM
As long as you don't do stupid shiit like jailbreaking your devices, Apple has no REASON to disable or maim your device - that wouldn't be good for business and they want repeat customers if possible


I spend hundread of dollars to buy a overpriced walkie talkie and part of the purchase argeement is that the company still owns my walkie Talkie and they can take punitive action at any time they chose.


Wow man..... so this is what if feels like to live in the Twilight Zone.


T

Gaillo
3rd September 2010, 05:24 PM
As long as you don't do stupid shiit like jailbreaking your devices, Apple has no REASON to disable or maim your device - that wouldn't be good for business and they want repeat customers if possible


I spend hundread of dollars to buy a overpriced walkie talkie and part of the purchase argeement is that the company still owns my walkie Talkie and they can take punitive action at any time they chose.


Wow man..... so this is what if feels like to live in the Twilight Zone.


T


Walkie talkie? Neither the iPod touch nor the iPad (which I own) have phone capability... and I (one of MILLIONS) of apple owners don't do anything to warrant said "punitive action"... While I agree with you on general principle, in actual effect, I don't think I have much to worry about.

BTW, I'm posting this from my iPad sitting on my back porch, with Nikhil Banerjee's "Afternoon ragas, 1970 amsterdam" playing in the background (from my iPod, connected to the stereo) with pork chops on the grill and the faithful dog at my feet. Try that with traditional windows hardware that costs under $800! ;)

Grand Master Melon
4th September 2010, 03:51 AM
I liked apple back in the Oregon Trail days.

I wouldn't buy anything apple nowadays.