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MNeagle
29th August 2010, 07:57 PM
Facebook sues start-up for using 'book' in name


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Facebook is suing start-up site Teachbook.com for using the word "book" in its name, according to court documents.

The complaint, filed in a California district court last Wednesday, alleges that Teachbook is "rid[ing] on the coattails of the fame and enormous goodwill of the Facebook trademark," said the document obtained by Wired.com.

Facebook, based in Palo Alto, throws a slew of accusations at Teachbook, including federal trademark dilution, trademark infringement and unfair competition.

Teachbook, based in Illinois, isn't launching until fall 2010 and many of the site's links are dead. Shrader said it is a "teacher's community" where users can share lesson plans and seek advice from fellow educators.

"[Teachbook] has created its own competing online networking community in a blatant attempt to become Facebook 'for teachers,'" the suit alleges.

"At the end of the day, they're just trying to bully us and we're not going to roll over," said Greg Shrader, a managing partner at Teachbook. "We have every intention of filing an opposition in a month or so."

Shrader said he applied to trademark Teachbook's name in 2009, and the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office said it found "no similar marks" on record. But before the government could make its final ruling, Shrader said, Facebook filed its opposition and sued Teachbook.

The court filing also claims Teachbook has marketed itself as an alternative to Facebook. It alleges a page on Teachbook's site -- which has since been removed -- once read, "Many schools forbid their teachers to maintain Facebook and MySpace accounts ... With Teachbook, you can manage your profile."

Facebook recently hit the 500 million member mark. By contrast, Teachbook's site said 47 members were online Thursday morning.

A rep for Facebook said the company doesn't claim to own rights to the word "book," as it has no complaint with titles like Kelley Blue Book.

"However, there is already a well-known online service with 'book' in the brand name that helps people connect and share," the Facebook rep said in an email.

Shrader said Facebook's filing "strikes me as greedy. We're a two-person company -- I don't know how a multibillion-dollar site sees us as a threat."

This isn't the first time Facebook has gone after small sites over the -book suffix. The travel site TripTrace -- once called PlaceBook -- detailed in a post how the social networking behemoth forced it to change its name.

"We didn't believe anyone could own the word 'book' apart from 'face,'" reads a post on TripTrace's company blog. "We knew of a number of websites that had similar names that were clearly not copying Facebook: Cookbook, Blackbook, eBook, RunBook ... Racebook, Casebook, Tastebook."

But the site acquiesced to Facebook because, "as a start-up we were in no position to fight." Still, TripTrace seems to have the last laugh.

"We still think of ourselves as PlaceBook," the post reads. "Or, if you chose to pronounce it differently so it doesn't rhyme: PlacéBoök."

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/26/technology/teachbook/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

Grand Master Melon
30th August 2010, 12:09 AM
Just another reason to dislike facebook.

Apparition
30th August 2010, 12:14 AM
Some people actually think suffixes can be trademarked now?

I hope they lose.

Neuro
30th August 2010, 01:02 AM
One can argue that facebook rode on the coat tails of the popularity of book when they choose the name...

k-os
30th August 2010, 06:35 PM
It's absurd, but facebook will probably prevail, simply because they have the money to spend on lawyers who will drag it out in court. I doubt the start-up company can match funds for their defense. And it won't matter that facebook doesn't own the word "book". They'll just sue the new company out of business. What asshats.

1970 silver art
30th August 2010, 06:48 PM
It's absurd, but facebook will probably prevail, simply because they have the money to spend on lawyers who will drag it out in court. I doubt the start-up company can match funds for their defense. And it won't matter that facebook doesn't own the word "book". They'll just sue the new company out of business. What asshats.


Generally speaking, the one with the deepest pockets can afford the best lawyers and can financially outlast the weaker opponent in a court room battle. It is not always about if someone is right or not in a courtroom. It is about how much money that one has to "buy" a "victory" in the courtroom.

This 2-person company might not have done anything wrong but if they do not have enough money to defend them self against FB, then it does not really matter when this company runs out of money (and goes out of business) and cannot afford to defend itself.

k-os
30th August 2010, 07:05 PM
It's absurd, but facebook will probably prevail, simply because they have the money to spend on lawyers who will drag it out in court. I doubt the start-up company can match funds for their defense. And it won't matter that facebook doesn't own the word "book". They'll just sue the new company out of business. What asshats.


Generally speaking, the one with the deepest pockets can afford the best lawyers and can financially outlast the weaker opponent in a court room battle. It is not always about if someone is right or not in a courtroom. It is about how much money that one has to "buy" a "victory" in the courtroom.

This 2-person company might not have done anything wrong but if they do not have enough money to defend them self against FB, then it does not really matter when this company runs out of money (and goes out of business) and cannot afford to defend itself.



Just another sad reality that many of us understand fully . . .yet it continues.

mamboni
30th August 2010, 07:07 PM
This is classic Jew uberproprietariness. Imagine suing over the use of a common word. How far we have fallen that this kind of crap is the basis of courtroom battles. I have personal experience with the ADL who will sue any organization that tries to use the word antidefamation in their name. It's fvcking BS and I for one am sick of it. But the Jew lawyers have the legal system turned upside down and inside out, lost on the nuances of word meaning while the nation is looted and the country crumbles. :soap

k-os
30th August 2010, 07:13 PM
This is classic Jew uberproprietariness. Imagine suing over the use of a common word. How far we have fallen that this kind of crap is the basis of courtroom battles. I have personal experience with the ADL who will sue any organization that tries to use the word antidefamation in their name. It's fvcking BS and I for one am sick of it. But the Jew lawyers have the legal system turned upside down and inside out, lost on the nuances of word meaning while the nation is looted and the country crumbles. :soap


I am suing you for the use of the trendy word (prefix?) "uber". :P

mamboni
30th August 2010, 07:15 PM
This is classic Jew uberproprietariness. Imagine suing over the use of a common word. How far we have fallen that this kind of crap is the basis of courtroom battles. I have personal experience with the ADL who will sue any organization that tries to use the word antidefamation in their name. It's fvcking BS and I for one am sick of it. But the Jew lawyers have the legal system turned upside down and inside out, lost on the nuances of word meaning while the nation is looted and the country crumbles. :soap


I am suing you for the use of the trendy word (prefix?) "uber". :P


Exactly!!!!! :redfc

iOWNme
31st August 2010, 07:07 AM
Trademark = Government monopoly = NO FREE MARKET

keehah
31st August 2010, 11:30 AM
a "teacher's community" where users can share lesson plans and seek advice from fellow educators.

Will it serve the official system? Perhaps it would be easy for them to change to Teachpook (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109055/).

If the site did become grass roots orientated, and too many teachers realize they all see the same problem, things could change for the better.
Would explain why the site is having so much resistance.



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TheNocturnalEgyptian
31st August 2010, 12:03 PM
If we're going to be so specific about things, they should just change their name to TeachBook.com. Facebook doesn't have any claims to Book with a capital B.

StackerKen
31st August 2010, 12:10 PM
why not just avoid the cost of the lawsuit and call it Teach.com ?

Neuro
31st August 2010, 04:37 PM
why not just avoid the cost of the lawsuit and call it Teach.com ?
instead why not argue in court that facebook violate the word book, because their site is not about books at all. They should change to fecals.com to better be in line with their business idea. If justice system was anywhere near to the concept of justice, instead of how much you are able to raise court costs, teachbook should have nothing to fear about this intimidation taken to court!

StackerKen
31st August 2010, 05:36 PM
Do any of you think they would have called their site "Teachbook", if the wasn't a really popular site already called "Facebook"?

keehah
31st August 2010, 11:47 PM
Perhaps the profession behind Teachbook has grounds to sue Facebook. :D

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/facebook#English

facebook (plural facebooks)

1. A reference book or electronic directory made up of individuals’ photographs and names.

2. A college publication distributed at the start of the academic year by university administrations with the intention of helping students get to know each other better. The shipment of facebooks will be distributed to the freshmen during orientation and move-in-week.