Talmud in Action: 6 Million Homes in Foreclosure in USA

[Bigjon]

August 31, 2010 NA (Network America) e-wire

Talmud in Action: 6 Million Homes in Foreclosure
in USA

It’s even reached the Sean Hannity Radio show
circa August 27, 2010 – that there are 6 million
homes in foreclosure in the USA. That’s 1/10th of
the homes in the USA !!!!!!

LISTEN UP! IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE FACING FORECLOSURE

LISTEN UP! In this Network America Ewire I’m going
to tell you exactly what to do – at least as a
first step – to stay in your home – probably for
months or years longer -- if you are facing
foreclosure.

I’m also going to explain EXACTLY what is
happening here. It’s the Talmud in action –
against us common folk. I’m going to explain this
“mortgage crisis” in a way that everyone can
understand exactly what is going on – and who
needs to be arrested and jailed for life.


David DeGraw in his excellent book, “The Economic
Elite vs. the People of the United States of
America” – states that 14 million homes will be in
foreclosure by 2014 --- if current trends
continue. (And current trends can only continue if
the FED Banksters – led by Ben Shalom Bernanke --
yes, that’s his real middle name! – are allowed to
make them continue.)

David DeGraw CORRECTLY states that what the
Rothschild-Rockefeller Banksters behind the FED,
Goldman Sachs and Wall Street are doing to us – is
FINANCIAL TERRORISM.

In this age of plenty – good hearted folks who
don’t imagine there is a criminal faction trying
to destroy them and their children – have been
caught blind-sided. 90% of the country is on the
edge of debt. Debt is a weapon the Rothschilds,
the FED, and Wall Street use against the people.

As Max Keiser (in his program “On the Edge” at
MaxKeiser.com) stated: “It turns out the terrorist
isn’t Al Qaeda – it’s Al Greenspan!” Keiser
regularly calls for the arrest of Goldman Sachs
and most of Wall Street, and is regularly puzzled
why Americans are reacting more vigorously to the
engineered demise of their nation.

HERE’S WHAT TO DO

But there is something simple that you can do if
you are faced with foreclosure: deny the assertion
that the corporation foreclosing on you has the
standing (or right) to do so. (I’ll explain this
more fully a little further down.)

I know of two cases, that I have watched close up,
where simply making the foreclosing entity prove
that it has the right to foreclose (which they
seem to almost never be able to do) – has kept one
family in its house for two years and another in
its home for 1 year. Neither family is paying a
mortgage payment during this time.

Is that fair, many ask?

If the law --- HEAR ME, PLEASE – if the law
applies to Johnny Smith and Jenny Jones on Main
Street – IT ALSO APPLIES TO FREDDIE MAC AND FANNY
MAE ON WALL STREET!

You see, these vultures have been breaking the law
for years, and are pulling off one of the greatest
scams in history. Former Wall Street lawyer, Neil
Garfield (http://livinglies.wordpress.com), calls
the mortgage crisis an unconscionable crime of
unimaginable proportions being perpetrated upon
the American home owner.

WHERE TO FIND ELLEN BROWN’S ARTICLE

Investigator Ellen Brown’s article, “Homeowner’s
Rebellion – Could 62 Million Homes Be
Foreclosure-Proof?”

Ellen Brown’s article was published in “YES!”
Magazine, appeared on the Huffington Post website
– but I’m referring you to the site of a guy who
regularly posts super-valuable at his website,
namely, Jeff Rense. Here is where to find Ellen’s
entire article:

http://www.rense.com/general91/could.htm

The full title and subtitle of the article is:

Homeowners' Rebellion - Could 62 Million Homes Be
Foreclosure-Proof?
A committed movement to tear off the predatory
mask called
MERS could yet turn the tide for struggling
homeowners.

MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) is
a criminal, electronic scam organization that was
set up to by-pass local county recording fees and
procedures – so that the Talmudist top Jews on
Wall Street could act like their world tyranny was
already established, and that they did not have to
follow United States laws anymore.

I should note here that only a small fraction of
Jews are part of this organized Jewish Crime and
Treason Syndicate. Just as only a small percentage
of Italians were ever part of the Mafia crime
syndicate, so also are only a small fraction of
Jews part of this current day organized Jewish
Crime and Treason Syndicate. And, as always, some
of the early and courageous battlers against this
Crime Syndicate are themselves Jewish, such as
Neil Garfield of Living Lies, mentioned and quoted
above.

And, the everyday Jewish people have been severely
abused by this Crime syndicate, off and on, over
the last century. See hitlerdvd.com to see how top
Jews such as the Rothschilds and Warburgs funded
Hitler to round up the everyday Jews.

HOW HOME MORTGAGES WORKED – THEN AND NOW

THEN: You got a home mortgage from your local
bank, say, Madisonville Savings and Loan in my
neighborhood where I grew up. You paid your house
payment there for 30 years. When you paid it off,
you got your mortgage paper from the SAME LENDING
INSTITUTION -- and went home and had a “mortgage
paper burning party” to celebrate that you owned
your home free and clear.

The state of your mortgage at all times – by law –
was recorded in your local county court house on
your title. The title said you owed payments to
your local bank until you paid it off, then your
title was “free and clear” and you owned the home.

NOW: Sneaky Talmudist-created corporations like
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae set up systems where as
soon as you got your mortgage, or refinanced your
house, they began selling it over and over and
over again – making a handsome profit each time –
like churning stocks.

This is why most of you will remember getting
notices every few months or years that your
mortgage was now owned by this bank in Arizona,
then that bank in Kansas, and so on.

BUT! The crooks at Fannie Mac and Fanny Mae, and
all the big banks that got seduced into their
crookery – ignored the law on each sale and
CHEATED the local counties out of the $50 to $100
fee that was supposed to be paid each time
ownership of your mortgage changed hands.

These moving and shaking Talmudist Jews around
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae – all Israeli citizens
(using their American citizenship only to bilk,
parasite, and steal from America) didn’t record
the change of ownership on any of the local titles
at the local county court houses. EACH OF THESE
FAILURES TO PAY THE FEE AND RECORD THE CHANGE OF
OWNERSHIP WAS A CRIME.

By now, according to reliable estimates, these
Talmudist Jews on Wall Street have defrauded the
3100 counties in the United States of – hold your
breath – over $2.4 BILLION dollars since 2001.

Why are none of the country prosecutor’s filing
suite against these vultures?

We need the marines to be ordered into Wall Street
and all Federal Reserve Buildings to arrest every
last one of these sneaky parasites who have
engineered this contrived, unnecessary foreclosure
crisis.

WHY THEY CAN’T LEGALLY FORECLOSE ON YOU

With rare exception, if your mortgage or
re-financing took place from 2000 to 2010 – they
have destroyed your note papers, and turned them
into electronic “copies” with the criminal
organization MERS. When you demand that they prove
they have standing to foreclose on you – they
print out a copy from their computer. But many
courts have already held that this is not good
enough. A copy doesn’t prove ownership of the
mortgage – they have to produce the original. And
they have destroyed the original to save storage
space.

Even in the rare instances where they can produce
your original note, they have separated from other
necessary papers – and that means they cannot
foreclose forever against you. See Ellen Brown’s
article above to get a more complete idea of this.

Another good website is:
www.YourRemedyIsInTheLaw.com

THE TALMUD IN ACTION

For newcomers, the Talmud is the so-called Jewish
“Holy Book” put together by the Rabbis in the
centuries after Christ came and the Temple was
destroyed (because its genealogy was no longer
needed, as the Savior had already come).

The problem is, this “holy book” says a lot of
unsavory things about Christ and Christians, such
as that Christ dies 5 deaths every day in Hell in
ways too vile to mention here. (A new book about
this is about to come out from an eastern academic
– blowing the cover – again – on the Talmud.
Michael Hoffman’s scholarly tome, “Judaism
Discovered” – is available now. As is Elizabeth
Dilling’s 1964 book, “The Plot Against
Christianity” available online at
come-and-hear.com )

The Talmud also says that all non-Jews are not
human (goyim, or human cattle) and that it is OK
to cheat goyim, and even kill them (us) with
impunity. The Talmud teaches that the suffering of
goyim (us), even of millions of goyim, is of no
consequence and should not be taken into account.
Therefore, the Talmudists who engineered the
mortgage crises don’t care how many parents are
embarrassed in front of them children as they
summarily kicked out of their homes due to
usurious, unjust interest rates and other tricks.
(Why should people pay three times for their home
by time they pay it off? Who arranged that? The
evil Talmudists, of course.)

Communism was rightly called the Talmud in action,
as it was the police arm of the Rothschilds
(Rothschild means Red Shield). Millions of
Christians were killed during the first 15 years
of Communism in Russia. One of the first acts of
the Communist government in Russia in 1918 was to
make “anti-semitism” a crime, punishable by the
death penalty. In other words, if you notice that
the Communist government was run 90% by Jews, and
you mentioned it in public – you could be put to
death. If that doesn’t show who was behind
Communism, what could?

And Communism decreed that the goyim (Russian
people) had no property – it all belonged to those
behind Communism (the Talmudists).

So – now the mortgage crisis (and so much else in
the USA now) is also the Talmud in Action. In this
case, it is to steal the home properties of the
goyim (normal people), which these top Talmudist
Jews believe should be their property anyway.

For a long time, the top Jews in New York City and
at the FED, and across the country, have skulked
around trying to figure out how to get a little
piece of the action on any work that is done by
the people out in the country.

Let’s look at some of the ways these top Talmudist
Jews, allied with the Rothschilds, the FED,
Goldman Sachs, etc. – have figured out how to skim
money from the people’s economic activity:

-- establishing the IRS and instituting the
withholding tax during World War II – the
so-called “pay as you go” tax. Snake Milton
Friedman was the messenger to urge Congress to
adopt this – only 1% -- now turned into 15% to
40%.

-- establishing the monopolies of VISA and
MASTERCARD – and charging the merchant up to 3% on
every transaction.

-- trying to engineer getting the pensions of
labor unions into the stock market, where large
parts of such pensions could be stolen

-- engineering putting public employees pensions
into the stock market, where large parts of such
pensions have been stolen; in Cincinnati we hear
that those who paid in for the last 30 years may
not get much of their pension.

-- and in this case, buy and sell and buy and sell
your mortgages – churning them, making obscene
profits each time – and breaking all the local
laws as if the USA didn’t exist any more.

-- and a lot more I don’t have time to mention.

FREDDIE MAC AND FANNIE MAE NOW HOLD 90% OF ALL
AMERICAN HOME MORTGAGES

As they try to move us into Communism in the USA,
the Obummer administration has now been used by
the Banksters to maneuver 90% of American homes
into Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, both founded in
the 80s. (The W. Bush administration was just as
bad in bringing this situation upon us.)

Almost all mortgages say that you have to pay in
full if the lender demands. 5 years from now
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae could demand all
mortgages be paid in full. When 99% of the home
owners couldn’t do it – they could say, “No
problem, stay in your house – but now you are only
a renter, we own the home.” And that would be
Communism, just like these same Talmudists imposed
on Russia after 1917. They own everything – you
won nothing.

(This will continue, until we take the
money-issuing power away from them, end the FED,
and institute the principles of Social Credit, or
“Free Enterprise” Economics.)

Crooks like the Jewess Jamie Gorelick of the lying
9-11 Commission – was also part of Fannie Mae. She
made $70 million churning homes in the nineties
and after 2000. Thousands of Talmudists made such
obscene profits – and some others.

Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were called part
private, and part public corporations. The
“private” was Talmudists like Jamie Gorelick
making millions; the “public” was us, the
taxpayers, picking up the debts they left behind
-- through the bailout our treasonous Congress
voted these vipers.

MORE ON WHAT TO DO

If you are in a judicial state, where the lender
must sue you to put you in foreclosure, then you
simply answer the lawsuit by denying that the
entity has the right to foreclose on you. This
will slow things up for months. You may need a
lawyer to do this, and you will almost certainly
need a lawyer down the road, unless you are one of
those rare individuals who can defend yourself
against the type of high-powered crooked lawyer
that you will be facing in the courtroom
representing the Pretender Lenders.

If you are in a non-judicial state, they can just
notify you with a letter that they are foreclosing
on you (nice, eh?) – so in that case you need to
file a lawsuit against them. Some states are part
one way, and part another. You just have to
research that quick with a call to the county
prosecutor or the Secretary of State in your
state.

If you search on google, there are quite a few
websites on which you can find some information
and help, in addition to the ones I listed above.
Ellen Brown’s article also lists a few of the
lawyers that are helping people.

Also, search on YouTube for Congresswoman Marcy
Kaptur and “produce the note.” CNN actually
carried a pretty good report on this – but didn’t
tell the home owner the right course of action, as
I am telling you here.

This is a way that you can take action to save
your home, or someone else’s home – and also to
kindle the Home Owners Rebellion that could
finally bring justice to the FED, Wall Street, and
Goldman Sachs, etc.

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[Ash_Williams]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?

[willie pete]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?


As stated, and I've heard this before, some people have stalled the foreclosure process by demanding,in court, that the holder of the mortgage produce the "Original" mortgage contract the party signed at the closing, and most mortgages have been sold between institutions so much, it'd probably be extremely difficult to locate, IF it even exists, the original document....what I thought was; a notarized, witnessed copy would stand up in court, I don't know, just saying

[Joe King]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?
That's the way I understand it.
i.e. it's illegal to take possession of that which you cannot prove ownership of.

[Bigjon]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?
That's the way I understand it.
i.e. it's illegal to take possession of that which you cannot prove ownership of.


And the banks in question don't have title to the property because they didn't properly record the transaction.


MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) is
a criminal, electronic scam organization that was
set up to by-pass local county recording fees and
procedures

[Joe King]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?
That's the way I understand it.
i.e. it's illegal to take possession of that which you cannot prove ownership of.


And the banks in question don't have title to the property because they didn't properly record the transaction.


MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) is
a criminal, electronic scam organization that was
set up to by-pass local county recording fees and
procedures
Yep. They allowed themselves to get sloppy in their work because they thought the ride (http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?bill-hicks-life-is-just-a-ride=&i=WjFSUW1ucWuRpU0pvUmc) would never end.

[mamboni]

The damn bagel-eaters have derivatized everything for their own private profit, scamming us and undermining our society, culture and material weath. They are the equivalent of cancer on the people. Wherever these "creatures" are allowed to ply their usurous trade, destruction and despair are soon to follow.

[General of Darkness]

So are the banks not sending the Sheriff to people's homes to kick them out?

[mrnhtbr2232]

...and Phil Gramm was McCain's economic adviser when he ran against Obama. For you tea party folks out there you are owned and don't even know it.

[Joe King]

So are the banks not sending the Sheriff to people's homes to kick them out?

Problem is, the Sheriff can only do so many of those a day and he has other work to do too.
If enough people do this, it bogs the entire process down to a crawl.
i.e. millions of people outwaiting how many Sheriffs?

[Twisted Titan]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?


As stated, and I've heard this before, some people have stalled the foreclosure process by demanding,in court, that the holder of the mortgage produce the "Original" mortgage contract the party signed at the closing, and most mortgages have been sold between institutions so much, it'd probably be extremely difficult to locate, IF it even exists, the original document....what I thought was; a notarized, witnessed copy would stand up in court, I don't know, just saying



That only stands up in court IF and this is a very big IF

The judge is willing to be impartial and allow the case to lead where it may. Which you dont see in over 98% of the cases


What we have are Judges and Forclosure Mill attorneys that know one other on a first name basis so they're not trying to hear anything you got to say. I mean after all Their members at the same Golf Club so trust and believe no feathers are going to get ruffled on your behalf.

In my own experinece I uncovered a flawed document in my forclosure package that had another persons name and when I attemped to argue that the plantiff was proceeding with flawed materials I was told by the judge that this document was a "slight oversight" as does not effect the standing of the plaintiff.

When I picked my jaw up off the table I procceded to shut my mouth and let this kangaroo court proceed as planned.

I 've since sat on the side lines for a few months but Im going to a mediation hearing this month ( still trying to get it delayed). I'll see how that turns out.

But the point I wish to make is this.

You Can be right and correct as you like but the Bottom line doesnt change the fact:

JUSTICE IS NOT BLIND........ITS FOR SALE

[Twisted Titan]

So are the banks not sending the Sheriff to people's homes to kick them out?


Sometime they do

Sometimes they dont

But I know you can get a stay of excution that can stop a sale for a few months.

If its a bad area they may let you stay because if they board it up the the street vermin will come in and strip it clean.

Better to have a "home owner" stay their till you know what to do.

[PatColo]

It’s even reached the Sean Hannity Radio show
circa August 27, 2010 – that there are 6 million
homes in foreclosure in the USA. That’s 1/10th of
the homes in the USA !!!!!!

Not minimizing the situation, but "in foreclosure" and "at risk of foreclosure" (missed at least one mortgage payment) are different.

One in 10 homeowners with a mortgage face foreclosure (http://www.contracostatimes.com/business/ci_15901254?source=patrick.net)


By Alan Zibel Associated Press
Posted: 08/26/2010 08:49:07 AM PDT

WASHINGTON -- One in 10 American households with a mortgage was at risk of foreclosure this summer as the government's efforts to help have had little impact stemming the housing crisis.

About 9.9 percent of homeowners had missed at least one mortgage payment as of June 30, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Thursday.
[...]
More than 2.3 million homes have been repossessed by lenders since the recession began in December 2007, according to foreclosure listing service RealtyTrac. Economists expect the number of foreclosures to grow well into next year.
[...]
underwater numbers
11 million
Homes with underwater mortgages (where the amount owed is greater than the home's value) at the end of June, down from 11.2 million at the end of March
23 percent
U.S. homes with mortgages that were underwater at the end of June
Source: CoreLogic

Regardless, it's my belief that for every one of the 10% "at risk" who pulls out of it and gets current with their payments, they'll be replaced by some greater number (?) who enter the "at risk" club. Some unknown portion of the current 10% are strategic defaulters (generally in the 23% underwater club, can afford to keep paying, but make a business decision to default & walk away); and the strategic default course of action is becoming increasingly "de-stigmatized" & popular. This will push home prices lower, expanding yet again the % of home borrowers underwater, expanding again those motivated to walk away while they're still solvent. Negative feedback loop... yes, all engineered, the controlled demolition of the institution of private property.

CBS 60 Minutes: Mortgages: Walking Away (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/cbs-60-minutes-mortgages-walking-away/msg42838/#msg42838)

Banksters' "Bolsheviks' Revolution" is sweeping the West...


http://www.heyokamagazine.com/capitalism2qd5.jpg


(better to read this at the source link with proper formatting etc):


"The Bankers Manifesto of 1892" (http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/407380-jeff-nielson/3678-the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892)

The actions of the banker-servants in the U.S. government must seem utterly incomprehensible to most people. Since "Helicopter" Ben Bernanke and "Bazooka" Paulson began handing out blank-cheques to the U.S. financial crime syndicate, they have already spent or pledged more than $10 TRILLION. With the balance-sheets of Wall Street banksters leveraged by an average of 30:1, this has amounted to paying off 'bad bets' at 30:1 odds - with most of those bets based on the (declining) housing prices of the U.S. market.

Meanwhile, only roughly 1% of that mind-boggling total has actually been directed to bailing out the housing sector itself. It is simple arithmetic that bailing out U.S. real estate assets directly would be 30 times as efficient as the current policy of bailing out the banksters' leveraged-bets.

Could even the brain-dead puppets of the U.S. Congress be throwing away tax dollars with this degree of stupidity and inefficiency? What if there was a "method" to their madness?

To properly answer this question, it is necessary to look back through history - seeking some common "theme". To me, such a theme is painfully obvious. Since the beginning of civilization, there has only been one, real "war" - the war between rich and poor.

In the times of Kings, Queens, and Emperors, that "war" was out in the open. However, having observed how badly the war was going with the "kings, queens, and emperors" (lol!), the truly rich got smarter. They realized that the only long-term means of getting the "little people" to willingly wear their yokes is by deceiving them into believing those yokes don't exist.

A "yoke of debt" has proven to be infinitely superior to the chains of slavery, in that the masses not only willingly embrace their debt-yokes, but have been steadily striving, themselves, to make those yokes both larger and tighter. And nothing in history has accelerated the bankers' grip over the masses as much as the credit card.

Programmed into believing that a credit card "limit" was the same thing as a savings-account balance, hundreds of millions of people in Western industrialized societies have willingly sought to indebt themselves to the maximum amount possible. Roughly half of these self-created "victims" are Americans, who also carry the highest average debts.

Simultaneously, the filthy-rich have sought to transform their title in this new paradigm of slavery from "rulers" to "bankers". And while bankers get rich from people as they pay back there self-incurred debts, they become wealthier (and much more powerful) from bankrupting the "little people" and seizing their assets.

Over the past century, their propaganda machine has become much more adept, and infinitely more sophisticated. As a result, and with the end of a "free press" (except for the internet) you will no longer hear the rich openly discuss their plans as they did in 1892. Meanwhile, Americans are bombarded with the message that living with huge debts is not simply acceptable but desirable.

The "Bankers Manifesto" was written in 1892, but apart from some archaic language, it sounds like it could have been written in 1992. Can anyone argue that this "manifesto" appears to perfectly describe Wall Street's "play-book" in 2009?



"The Bankers Manifesto of 1892"

(Revealed by US Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh,Sr. from Minnesota before the US Congress sometime during his term of office between the years of 1907 and 1917 to warn the citizens.)

""We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion [that would be us]. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance [that would be SOON]. The Farmers Alliance and Knights of Labor organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

At the coming Omaha Convention to be held July 4th (1892), our men must attend and direct its movement, or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome. This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When through the process of the law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders.

History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world [that would be SENIOR politicians]. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expand their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete action, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished."

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/407380-jeff-nielson/3678-the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892

[Bigjon]

So, if I understand this, your mortgage nowadays is bad because it changes hands between banks, unlike the good old-fashioned mortgages that were held by just one bank?


As stated, and I've heard this before, some people have stalled the foreclosure process by demanding,in court, that the holder of the mortgage produce the "Original" mortgage contract the party signed at the closing, and most mortgages have been sold between institutions so much, it'd probably be extremely difficult to locate, IF it even exists, the original document....what I thought was; a notarized, witnessed copy would stand up in court, I don't know, just saying



That only stands up in court IF and this is a very big IF

The judge is willing to be impartial and allow the case to lead where it may. Which you dont see in over 98% of the cases


What we have is Judges and forclosure mill attorneys that know each other on a first name basis so they are not trying to hear anything you got to say. I mean after all Their members at the same Golf Club so trust a believe no feathers are going to get ruffled.

In my own experinece I uncovered a flawed document in my forclosure package that had another persons name and when I attemped to argue that the plantiff was proceeding with flawed materials I was told by the judge that this document was a "slight oversight" as does not effect the standing of the plaintiff.

When I picked my jaw up off the table I procceded to shut my mouth and let this kangaroo court proceed as planned.

I have since sat on the side lines for a few months but Im going to a mediation hearing this month ( still trying to get it delayed). I will see how that turns out.

But the point I wish to make is this.

You Can be right and correct as you want to be but the Bottom line doesnt change the fact:

JUSTICE IS NOT BLIND........ITS FOR SALE


You should be able to go to the court where your deed is located and see if it is properly recorded.

If it is recorded under a different entity than the people who are foreclosing, I think you might have a case.

[Horn]

JUSTICE IS NOT BLIND........ITS FOR SALE [/b] [/i]


There's got to be some money in defending homeowners somewhere, No?

Guess they wait until it hits the magic # 51% in the surveys...

[Twisted Titan]

It’s even reached the Sean Hannity Radio show
circa August 27, 2010 – that there are 6 million
homes in foreclosure in the USA. That’s 1/10th of
the homes in the USA !!!!!!

Not minimizing the situation, but "in foreclosure" and "at risk of foreclosure" (missed at least one mortgage payment) are different.

One in 10 homeowners with a mortgage face foreclosure (http://www.contracostatimes.com/business/ci_15901254?source=patrick.net)


By Alan Zibel Associated Press
Posted: 08/26/2010 08:49:07 AM PDT

WASHINGTON -- One in 10 American households with a mortgage was at risk of foreclosure this summer as the government's efforts to help have had little impact stemming the housing crisis.

About 9.9 percent of homeowners had missed at least one mortgage payment as of June 30, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Thursday.
[...]
More than 2.3 million homes have been repossessed by lenders since the recession began in December 2007, according to foreclosure listing service RealtyTrac. Economists expect the number of foreclosures to grow well into next year.
[...]
underwater numbers
11 million
Homes with underwater mortgages (where the amount owed is greater than the home's value) at the end of June, down from 11.2 million at the end of March
23 percent
U.S. homes with mortgages that were underwater at the end of June
Source: CoreLogic

Regardless, it's my belief that for every one of the 10% "at risk" who pulls out of it and gets current with their payments, they'll be replaced by some greater number (?) who enter the "at risk" club. Some unknown portion of the current 10% are strategic defaulters (generally in the 23% underwater club, can afford to keep paying, but make a business decision to default & walk away); and the strategic default course of action is becoming increasingly "de-stigmatized" & popular. This will push home prices lower, expanding yet again the % of home borrowers underwater, expanding again those motivated to walk away while they're still solvent. Negative feedback loop... yes, all engineered, the controlled demolition of the institution of private property.

CBS 60 Minutes: Mortgages: Walking Away (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/cbs-60-minutes-mortgages-walking-away/msg42838/#msg42838)

Banksters' "Bolsheviks' Revolution" is sweeping the West...


http://www.heyokamagazine.com/capitalism2qd5.jpg


(better to read this at the source link with proper formatting etc):


"The Bankers Manifesto of 1892" (http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/407380-jeff-nielson/3678-the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892)

The actions of the banker-servants in the U.S. government must seem utterly incomprehensible to most people. Since "Helicopter" Ben Bernanke and "Bazooka" Paulson began handing out blank-cheques to the U.S. financial crime syndicate, they have already spent or pledged more than $10 TRILLION. With the balance-sheets of Wall Street banksters leveraged by an average of 30:1, this has amounted to paying off 'bad bets' at 30:1 odds - with most of those bets based on the (declining) housing prices of the U.S. market.

Meanwhile, only roughly 1% of that mind-boggling total has actually been directed to bailing out the housing sector itself. It is simple arithmetic that bailing out U.S. real estate assets directly would be 30 times as efficient as the current policy of bailing out the banksters' leveraged-bets.

Could even the brain-dead puppets of the U.S. Congress be throwing away tax dollars with this degree of stupidity and inefficiency? What if there was a "method" to their madness?

To properly answer this question, it is necessary to look back through history - seeking some common "theme". To me, such a theme is painfully obvious. Since the beginning of civilization, there has only been one, real "war" - the war between rich and poor.

In the times of Kings, Queens, and Emperors, that "war" was out in the open. However, having observed how badly the war was going with the "kings, queens, and emperors" (lol!), the truly rich got smarter. They realized that the only long-term means of getting the "little people" to willingly wear their yokes is by deceiving them into believing those yokes don't exist.

A "yoke of debt" has proven to be infinitely superior to the chains of slavery, in that the masses not only willingly embrace their debt-yokes, but have been steadily striving, themselves, to make those yokes both larger and tighter. And nothing in history has accelerated the bankers' grip over the masses as much as the credit card.

Programmed into believing that a credit card "limit" was the same thing as a savings-account balance, hundreds of millions of people in Western industrialized societies have willingly sought to indebt themselves to the maximum amount possible. Roughly half of these self-created "victims" are Americans, who also carry the highest average debts.

Simultaneously, the filthy-rich have sought to transform their title in this new paradigm of slavery from "rulers" to "bankers". And while bankers get rich from people as they pay back there self-incurred debts, they become wealthier (and much more powerful) from bankrupting the "little people" and seizing their assets.

Over the past century, their propaganda machine has become much more adept, and infinitely more sophisticated. As a result, and with the end of a "free press" (except for the internet) you will no longer hear the rich openly discuss their plans as they did in 1892. Meanwhile, Americans are bombarded with the message that living with huge debts is not simply acceptable but desirable.

The "Bankers Manifesto" was written in 1892, but apart from some archaic language, it sounds like it could have been written in 1992. Can anyone argue that this "manifesto" appears to perfectly describe Wall Street's "play-book" in 2009?



"The Bankers Manifesto of 1892"

(Revealed by US Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh,Sr. from Minnesota before the US Congress sometime during his term of office between the years of 1907 and 1917 to warn the citizens.)

""We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion [that would be us]. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance [that would be SOON]. The Farmers Alliance and Knights of Labor organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

At the coming Omaha Convention to be held July 4th (1892), our men must attend and direct its movement, or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome. This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When through the process of the law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders.

History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world [that would be SENIOR politicians]. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expand their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete action, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished."

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/407380-jeff-nielson/3678-the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892






That Banker Manifesto is quite nice but I dont think it existed before 2003.

Someone did some digging at above top secret


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412260/pg1




How convenient, Lindbergh just so happens to have been in Congress from 1907 to 1917; basically what people are saying is they don't know when the hell he introduced this, they just somehow "know" it was introduced sometime during his presence in Congress.

It's funny that I can't find any information about this, but here's an editorial note from one website that reported on this Manifesto:


Editorial Note: The following article was brought to the attention of the FDL by the Dove www.nesara.us... in her report dated Monday, December 08, 2003 23:34, giving its source as www.dlkconsultants.org/manifesto.htm. We went to the source and have reproduced the text we found there below. No copyright information was included with the source file.


Source

Also:

Source of where the website dlkconsultants.org came from.

Turns out dlkconsultants.org doesn't exist anymore, but thankfully there's a website out there that allows people to view snapshots of websites in time, and here it is:

They were only around since 2002

Click on "Jun 30, 2002", you get a website that reads something like this:


I'm not going to promise you anything and this may or may not be for you, but if you knew FOR SURE it was possible to earn $40,000 up to $100,000 per month and retire in a few years -- is that a business you would want to at least know about? I was very skeptical and wanted to know if it was really happening or if it was just a another "Hype". And to my surprise, I plundered into the "Mother Load" of all Network Companies. There are people like you and I already making $10,000 - $20,000 - $30,000 - $50,000 - And even $100,000 per month. So what is different with this company than any other? The Answer! Because they have the most Unique product on the face of the earth. A Product that is making people Vibrant Healthy and Radically Wealthy.


Yeah, that sounds like a reliable source.

Click on any 2003 snapshot and you'll see they overhauled their scam website to be more in line with "debts, mortgage, and financial problems" you can navigate around their site and you'll find that they are offering "free consultations" on how to remove debt and help with financial problems.

From the looks of it, it was a scam website trying to sucker people into consultations and getting desperate people to buy whatever the hell they were selling. I'm going to assume that this "manifesto" was a way for them to play on peoples fear and desperation so they would open their wallets.

Here's the snapshots of the Manifesto as well, which apparently only existed since 2003 on their website:

Here

For something so controversial and damning when it comes to banks and bankers you'd think something like this would have already been known about, at least in a historical context. Save for a handful of websites there's no information at all on this Manifesto.

[edit on 17-11-2008 by davion]

[PatColo]

That Banker Manifesto is quite nice but I dont think it existed before 2003.



I'd like if the history/etc of the alleged Banksters' Manifesto was better nailed down too. References to it I've seen on the internets have always been very thinly sourced.

Like with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm) though (another document of notoriously obfuscated origin), the content simply rings true.

If you accept that Zionism = House of Rothschild Banksters = NWO (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940), then the Protocols could properly be thought of as the Protocols of the Zionist Global Usury Empire.


"Works for me!!" :-*
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[Ash_Williams]

I guess I just don't get it.

Are people trying to suggest that they have been victimized somehow because the mortgage was sold from one bank to another?

They made the agreement - borrow this amount and this rate for this time, make these payments. Unless the bank has done something that violates the agreement that the client has consensually signed, then nothing has changed for the client.

If I had a mortgage and a way to "get out of it" I might take it, but I sure as hell wouldn't pretend I was on the moral high ground!

[Horn]

I guess I just don't get it.

Are people trying to suggest that they have been victimized somehow because the mortgage was sold from one bank to another?

They made the agreement - borrow this amount and this rate for this time, make these payments. Unless the bank has done something that violates the agreement that the client has consensually signed, then nothing has changed for the client.

If I had a mortgage and a way to "get out of it" I might take it, but I sure as hell wouldn't pretend I was on the moral high ground!


Apparently there was some sort of ponzi scheme between banks & rating/assessing agencies that some owners were suckered into.

I'm just reporting what I've heard though... could be false, it may just be propaganda?

[AndreaGail]

everywhere i look theres that pesky 6 million number :morph:

[millwright]

Whats not to get. Private banks inflate the money supply and then deflate the money supply resulting in the distruction of the entire economy. People lose their jobs, and all of their equity. The banks then take back the house and sell it to the children of the parents that were destroyed by the banks actions.

Is this not why we are here ? OF COURSE THEY HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED! Not only that, but through decades of lies and misinformation the poor bastards never stood a chance.





I guess I just don't get it.

Are people trying to suggest that they have been victimized somehow because the mortgage was sold from one bank to another?

They made the agreement - borrow this amount and this rate for this time, make these payments. Unless the bank has done something that violates the agreement that the client has consensually signed, then nothing has changed for the client.

If I had a mortgage and a way to "get out of it" I might take it, but I sure as hell wouldn't pretend I was on the moral high ground!


Apparently there was some sort of ponzi scheme between banks & rating/assessing agencies that some owners were suckered into.

I'm just reporting what I've heard though... could be false, it may just be propaganda?

[Ash_Williams]

Whats not to get. Private banks inflate the money supply and then deflate the money supply resulting in the distruction of the entire economy. People lose their jobs, and all of their equity. The banks then take back the house and sell it to the children of the parents that were destroyed by the banks actions.

All the terms are there on paper. People signed the paper and agreed to it. Like what do you want... contracts that are only valid as long as it works out the way the customer hopes? Maybe casinos should return everyone's money when they don't win too? If I sold some silver to my dealer at $15 months ago then should he give me the other $4/oz now?

If you protect stupid then you just get more stupid.

People bet on the side of having their jobs... it didn't work out. They could have lessened the risk with another bet by insuring their loan against their unemployment. They could have just not taken the mortgage. Yeah... that's actually an option. Over 50% of those subprime mortgages weren't even to buy houses - they were new loans taken out against houses already owned! Don't take a risk unless you're ready for the consequences.

We used to learn this lesson as dumb kids on the schoolyard, putting up $2 on a sure thing only to lose to another kid because we weren't as smart as we though we were. I guess nowadays the kid that loses will go cry to the teacher and get his money back instead of learning anything.

People might learn from all this and not sign over their lives to the bank so quickly next time. Probably not. It's easier for them to choose to shut their brains off and try to take shortcuts 'cause it must be safe 'cause everyone else is doing it. Too bad for them.

America's mindset today: "I lost... therefore it's not fair!"

I'm tired of it at this point. I've been doing interviews at work for 4 months. These people that got laid off from their six-figure jobs? They're idiots. They got laid off for a reason. The ones out of school are nearly as bad, they all have this attitude that they just need to "do their best" (which is slang for put up a half-assed effort with good intentions) and it'll all work out. They have nothing to prove... they forget a job interview is a competitive sport. We gave up after 4 months... in this mass of unemployment there was not a single useful person that applied, just idiot after idiot that thought they were a lot smarter than their test results suggested.

Society coddles too much, it's making us weak and stupid. People can't stand to hear they screwed up, that they've failed, that they need to do better. People never want to here something is their fault. "Bad choices? No... bad everything else... it was that evil bank made me sign the mortgage paper for this giant house while I slacked off at work every day oblivious to the fact I'd be the first in line for a layoff when they got the excuse."

[Twisted Titan]

Whats not to get. Private banks inflate the money supply and then deflate the money supply resulting in the distruction of the entire economy. People lose their jobs, and all of their equity. The banks then take back the house and sell it to the children of the parents that were destroyed by the banks actions.

All the terms are there on paper. People signed the paper and agreed to it. Like what do you want... contracts that are only valid as long as it works out the way the customer hopes? Maybe casinos should return everyone's money when they don't win too? If I sold some silver to my dealer at $15 months ago then should he give me the other $4/oz now?

If you protect stupid then you just get more stupid.




VERY WELL PROTECTED STUPID THAT PROCCEDS WITH ABSOLUTE IMPUNITY

[Bigjon]

Whats not to get. Private banks inflate the money supply and then deflate the money supply resulting in the distruction of the entire economy. People lose their jobs, and all of their equity. The banks then take back the house and sell it to the children of the parents that were destroyed by the banks actions.

All the terms are there on paper. People signed the paper and agreed to it. Like what do you want... contracts that are only valid as long as it works out the way the customer hopes? Maybe casinos should return everyone's money when they don't win too? If I sold some silver to my dealer at $15 months ago then should he give me the other $4/oz now?

If you protect stupid then you just get more stupid.

People bet on the side of having their jobs... it didn't work out. They could have lessened the risk with another bet by insuring their loan against their unemployment. They could have just not taken the mortgage. Yeah... that's actually an option. Over 50% of those subprime mortgages weren't even to buy houses - they were new loans taken out against houses already owned! Don't take a risk unless you're ready for the consequences.

We used to learn this lesson as dumb kids on the schoolyard, putting up $2 on a sure thing only to lose to another kid because we weren't as smart as we though we were. I guess nowadays the kid that loses will go cry to the teacher and get his money back instead of learning anything.

People might learn from all this and not sign over their lives to the bank so quickly next time. Probably not. It's easier for them to choose to shut their brains off and try to take shortcuts 'cause it must be safe 'cause everyone else is doing it. Too bad for them.

America's mindset today: "I lost... therefore it's not fair!"

I'm tired of it at this point. I've been doing interviews at work for 4 months. These people that got laid off from their six-figure jobs? They're idiots. They got laid off for a reason. The ones out of school are nearly as bad, they all have this attitude that they just need to "do their best" (which is slang for put up a half-assed effort with good intentions) and it'll all work out. They have nothing to prove... they forget a job interview is a competitive sport. We gave up after 4 months... in this mass of unemployment there was not a single useful person that applied, just idiot after idiot that thought they were a lot smarter than their test results suggested.

Society coddles too much, it's making us weak and stupid. People can't stand to hear they screwed up, that they've failed, that they need to do better. People never want to here something is their fault. "Bad choices? No... bad everything else... it was that evil bank made me sign the mortgage paper for this giant house while I slacked off at work every day oblivious to the fact I'd be the first in line for a layoff when they got the excuse."



You seem not to be aware of what the banks did.

The banks are far from being innocent bystanders in this whole debacle. They lobbied for an end to all the controls put in after the “great” depression and a bought and paid for congress willingly complied. The amount of leverage changed from the traditional ten to one to 40, 50, 60 to 1. Banks wrote loans as fast as they could find warm bodies to sign on the bottom line and sold them to unsuspecting dupes before the ink dried on the contracts.

A lot of people bought into the line that house prices only go up, this was the bank’s main sales technique, who cares if you can’t afford it, you can roll it a year from now for a 20 to 30 percent gain.

I’m a white male and when I reached an age where my predecessor’s traditionally moved into management, somebody painted a target on my back that said expendable, we only promote non-whites and females. I’m lucky that I kept my job until 6 months short of retirement.
There are a lot of white males who weren’t as lucky to be as old as I was, who now find themselves unemployable and very few jobs to be had. Ten to fifteen years ago when the banks where setting up this trap, there was a go-go economy and the young do not have great foresight, because they’ve never experienced hard times.

Basically this is the all time JEW job, with white males getting the Jewing.

[DMac]

Basically this is the all time JEW job, with white males getting the Jewing.

So sad and yet so true. How many other nations in history had the exact same scenario happen to them, where "bankers" lobby the governing peoples (BRIBE/EXTORT), change the banking rules for increased leverage/inflation, then when the bubble machine hits capacity the rug gets pulled. The people go broke and the "bankers" profit immensely.

Here's a hint, the US is not the first to get the shaft in this manner. Check every major European country and you will find the same formula executed perfectly - always happens to the current major power.

[Ash_Williams]

You seem not to be aware of what the banks did.
Sure I am.. it's as you say below.


Banks wrote loans as fast as they could find warm bodies to sign on the bottom line and sold them to unsuspecting dupes before the ink dried on the contracts.

A lot of people bought into the line that house prices only go up, this was the bank’s main sales technique, who cares if you can’t afford it, you can roll it a year from now for a 20 to 30 percent gain.

Exactly. We have dupe after dupe and it never ends. I've been straddling the borderline for a while now, thinking maybe you can do something to save the common idiot, and maybe you can't. After the last few months though, I'm over that line. Dupes after dupes after dupes, and I'm sick of it. Anyone with half a brain will eventually conclude you have two choices: You say "eff it" or you let the dupes drag you down with them. You can't save them, there are simply too many.

The banks took advantage of them. Also the drug companies did, and the media, and tobacco producers, and casinos, government, and everything. Everyone takes advantage of the dupes because they are the rabbits of the world. The do nothing but breed and provide food for the predators. Predators are working on a massive scale now, farming those dupes - those human rabbits that choose to cage themselves. You can't do anything for these people. They were born as prey, to simply eat/screw/be used/die. Generation after generation will be the same damn thing.

Of course the banks took advantage of them. Of course everyone took advantage of them. What else would happen? You're dealing with a population that will act as idiots time after time and never learn from it. These unemployed people getting foreclosed on now... how many of them do you think would take another mortgage without a second thought if in 2 years from today they had a job and house prices were rising again? I bet 90% or more. There is nothing you can do, these people were born with some pre-set limit on their total of intelligence + personal responsibility + openmindedness. Total race of defects that basically can't control what they buy, what they feel, or even what they cram in their mouths.

I'm done with it. I think of the time and money I put into trying to help people in the past, and it wasn't worth it. They have some defect that pulls them back into their crazy borg collective no matter what... it shuts down their mind and it's "spend spend spend tv tv tv eat sugar spend some more". The people that are different are already different, and there's no point wasting time on the people that are not. Maybe you can protect them from the mean bank, then what's next? You'll keep trying to protect them from getting duped by one thing after another and they'll never understand, they'll just get duped into selling you out. That's the scariest part... you can give them a lifetime of truth but they'll kill you in a minute if someone else's lie makes them feel better about themselves.