Karaite Jews

[Fortyone]

Ok where the hell did these guys come from? Paternal lineage? NO TALMUD?????,I got this from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism

This just seems strange for jews,

Karaites do not accept the existence of an Oral Law because:
The Mishnah quotes many conflicting opinions.
The Mishnah does not go on to say in which opinion the truth lies. Rather, the Mishnah sometimes agrees with neither one nor the other, contradicting both.
They argue that the truth of the oral law given to Moses could only be in one opinion, not many opinions.
They question why the Mishnah does not solely speak in the name of Moses.
The Oral Law is not mentioned once in the entire Tanakh.
When God told Moses to come up to Mount Sinai to receive the Torah He said, "Come up to me into the mountain, and be there: and I will give you tablets of stone, and a law, and commandments that I have written"; (Ex 24,12). The text states the commands are written, and no mention is made of an Oral Law.
The Tanakh reports that the written Torah was both lost and completely forgotten for over 50 years and only rediscovered by the Temple priests (2Ki 22,8; 2Chr 34,15). It is inconceivable that an Oral Law could have been remembered when even the written Law was forgotten.
The words of the Mishnah and Talmud are clearly the words of people living in the 2nd–5th centuries, CE, stating "Rabbi Eliezer says this... while Rabbi Akiva says that..." in contrast to the Torah, which states "YHWH spoke to Moses saying, speak to the Children of Israel that I command them saying..."
The Torah states, "You shall not add to the word that I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of YHWH, your God, which I command you." (Deut 4:2) It is forbidden to add an Oral Law to the Torah, since it is the opinions of rabbis, not commands from God.

[hoarder]

The Karaites are good guys, IMO. I've always thought that they were both Khazar and Semitic Jews with a sense of decency. More than likely though, Talmudist Khazar supremacists have infiltrated the sect to prevent them from being too vocal about Talmudists, and make sure they oppose without exposing.

[Ponce]

Well?...........Jews are estrange..........nuf said.

[Fortyone]

The Karaites are good guys, IMO. I've always thought that they were both Khazar and Semitic Jews with a sense of decency. More than likely though, Talmudist Khazar supremacists have infiltrated the sect to prevent them from being too vocal about Talmudists, and make sure they oppose without exposing.


I never heard of them. I was reading the Khazarian Khagnate thread, and the link mentioned them in the Russian-Khazar history. seemed extremely odd that they would have survived,as they go against almost all of the Zionist doctrine.

[hoarder]

I never heard of them. I was reading the Khazarian Khagnate thread, and the link mentioned them in the Russian-Khazar history. seemed extremely odd that they would have survived,as they go against almost all of the Zionist doctrine.
Not all Khazars or all Jews are evil.

[EE_]

[Not all Khazars or all Jews are evil.

Agreed,
but almost all evil involves Khazars and Zionist Jews

[salamander]

Well, the main difference between the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day was that the Pharisees believed the "oral law" (which would go on to become the Talmud) while the Sadducees did not. The Pharisees are the ones who are the ancestors of modern-day Judaism. To my knowledge, the main reason that the Pharisees survived to this day while the Sadducees disappeared (or perhaps remain only as these Karaites) is because the Pharisees opposed the Jewish rebellion in 70 AD and sided with Rome.

But remember, both the Pharisees and Sadducees conspired together in order to kill Christ. So the mere rejection of the Talmud certainly should not necessarily convince us that these people are not evil.

[Ponce]

[Not all Khazars or all Jews are evil.

Agreed,
but almost all evil involves Khazars and Zionist Jews


EE?..........Zionist Jews are Khazards..........but there coul be one or two who are Semites.

[Fortyone]

Well, the main difference between the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day was that the Pharisees believed the "oral law" (which would go on to become the Talmud) while the Sadducees did not. The Pharisees are the ones who are the ancestors of modern-day Judaism. To my knowledge, the main reason that the Pharisees survived to this day while the Sadducees disappeared (or perhaps remain only as these Karaites) is because the Pharisees opposed the Jewish rebellion in 70 AD and sided with Rome.

But remember, both the Pharisees and Sadducees conspired together in order to kill Christ. So the mere rejection of the Talmud certainly should not necessarily convince us that these people are not evil.


I dont believe that this reduces their complacency in their acts towards Christ or current world events at all. I just find it interesting they survived in the Zionist state to this day without being "converted".

[Awoke]

Well, the main difference between the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day was that the Pharisees believed the "oral law" (which would go on to become the Talmud) while the Sadducees did not. The Pharisees are the ones who are the ancestors of modern-day Judaism. To my knowledge, the main reason that the Pharisees survived to this day while the Sadducees disappeared (or perhaps remain only as these Karaites) is because the Pharisees opposed the Jewish rebellion in 70 AD and sided with Rome.

But remember, both the Pharisees and Sadducees conspired together in order to kill Christ. So the mere rejection of the Talmud certainly should not necessarily convince us that these people are not evil.


Nice post. Where did you (and could I) learn about this?

[Fortyone]

Well, the main difference between the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day was that the Pharisees believed the "oral law" (which would go on to become the Talmud) while the Sadducees did not. The Pharisees are the ones who are the ancestors of modern-day Judaism. To my knowledge, the main reason that the Pharisees survived to this day while the Sadducees disappeared (or perhaps remain only as these Karaites) is because the Pharisees opposed the Jewish rebellion in 70 AD and sided with Rome.

But remember, both the Pharisees and Sadducees conspired together in order to kill Christ. So the mere rejection of the Talmud certainly should not necessarily convince us that these people are not evil.


Nice post. Where did you (and could I) learn about this?






Its mentioned on this thread, http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/khazarian-kaganat/


http://firstword.us/2007/11/two-hundred-years-together-chap-1-a/

[Twisted Titan]

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[Jazkal]

http://www.karaite-korner.org/

They reject Rabbinic Judaism for the same reasons Jesus rejected the "oral law" (that is a direct root of modern day Rabbinic Judaism).

[Awoke]

I have read Koestlers book, the 13th tribe. My knowledge on the Karaite jews is limited to that so far.

I was interested in the comments on the sadducees and pharisees.