Chuck Baldwin Heads For His BOL

[LuckyStrike]

http://www.vdare.com/baldwin/100901_freedom_rush.htm

The basics of the article are Chuck is leaving his church and moving his entire family to Montana.

[old steel]

Chuck Baldwin is a true patriot in every sense of the word and he knows the score.

For his entire family to pull up stakes and relocate after all these years to Montana gives me real cause for concern.

[PatColo]

Forget "Freedom Rush", how bout getting out of the Gulf because of the oil/corexit depopulation op?

Good luck to him though, gut wrenching decision but I think a good one.

[StackerKen]

yeah...wow :o

I wonder whats up with that?

[Gaillo]

yeah...wow :o

I wonder whats up with that?


No you don't. You know EXACTLY what's happening.

[StackerKen]

yeah...wow :o

I wonder whats up with that?


No you don't. You know EXACTLY what's happening.


Well of Course I have an Idea of what might be up. ;)

But Chuck only said that he was leaving because God was calling him to leave.

But this is making me rethink this Gulf thing a bit. And Im thankful I don't live near the gulf.

That would be a heavy load to bear. :-\

[chud]

His brothers have made some good movies.

[willie pete]

His brothers have made some good movies.


He has brothers? With all his family going, you think he'll set-up a compound of sorts in MT?

[PatColo]

He's pretty vague on the reason for the move, outside of "God calling" & the fight for freedom. No mention of social/economic breakdown, no mention of BP implications. Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that. I frankly haven't followed his career or political endeavors at all so some of these answers may be common knowledge among his fans.

[Joe King]

After reading the OP link, I got the distinct impression that it's mostly for political reasons.


God has led us to the conviction that Montana (along with other Mountain states) is going to be the tip of the spear in the freedom fight; and we believe God wants us to be part of that fight.

Unless of course he's implying that an actual 2nd Revolution will start from within those states and wants to be there to participate.

[Mouse]

Perhaps he has insider information and is headed with his clan for a DUMB. He is a preacher with political ties and so-forth. He is and insider.

Millions will find that preps are perishable.

[Bullion_Bob]

"God has led us to the conviction that Montana (along with other Mountain states) is going to be the tip of the spear in the freedom fight; and we believe God wants us to be part of that fight."

Honestly though when you hear someone talk like this, and you know they are hard and deep into habitual religious worshiping, you have to realize they're essentially crazy enough to brainwash themselves into believing absolutely anything they want to if it's wrapped in "god" aka the psychological trigger.

[Fortyone]

His brothers have made some good movies.


Wrong baldwins :oo-->

[SWRichmond]

Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that.

I have always marveled at this. The Rocky Mountain states are landlocked.

[chad]

something is certainly up with colorado.

i have a friend whose company sells those huge power backup/generator things. the things that are the size of a small house and kick on as power backup for airports, hospitals etc.

i don't want to go all conspiracy with the denver airport, but he told me he personally delivered about 5 times as many as would be needed to backup the airport, and he was only one of 3 other vendors he saw delivering the same amount. something is up with that place for sure.

normally his company sets them all up, runs load tests, etc. he just dropped them off there. told me it was the first time ever in 20 years of the business a customer has had him do that.

[Fortyone]

something is certainly up with colorado.

i have a friend whose company sells those huge power backup/generator things. the things that are the size of a small house and kick on as power backup for airports, hospitals etc.

i don't want to go all conspiracy with the denver airport, but he told me he personally delivered about 5 times as many as would be needed to backup the airport, and he was only one of 3 other vendors he saw delivering the same amount. something is up with that place for sure.

normally his company sets them all up, runs load tests, etc. he just dropped them off there. told me it was the first time ever in 20 years of the business a customer has had him do that.


Denver is almost the geographic center of CONUS. The US govt. has long planned on using the area as a HQ if Nuclear war came. Today, the Rockies are almost impervious to any assault except from the air,and on foot. People that "know" are heading out that way in larger numbers now, and are living off grid.

[Hermie]

Chuck Baldwin is a true patriot in every sense of the word and he knows the score.

For his entire family to pull up stakes and relocate after all these years to Montana gives me real cause for concern.


Maybe he's thinking along these lines... http://northwestfront.org/

"The Northwest Front is a political organization of Aryan men and women who recognize that an independent and sovereign White nation in the Pacific Northwest is the only possibility for the survival of the White race on this continent.

"Does it seem as if society just isn’t working anymore?

"Most people agree that schools have quit providing students a good education. Why are standards being lowered and lowered again? People are victimized in their own homes by violent criminals. Why aren’t the criminals locked up? And who trusts our politicians, our media, or leadership of the companies we work for? Why are our jobs being outsourced to foreign countries? Why are our politicians such fools and traitors who sell us out at the drop of a hat?

"Maybe you’ve been thinking that there has to be a better way.
Maybe you, like us, want to be part of the answer to society’s problems. You can be!."

http://northwestfront.org/

[willie pete]

something is certainly up with colorado.

i have a friend whose company sells those huge power backup/generator things. the things that are the size of a small house and kick on as power backup for airports, hospitals etc.

i don't want to go all conspiracy with the denver airport, but he told me he personally delivered about 5 times as many as would be needed to backup the airport, and he was only one of 3 other vendors he saw delivering the same amount. something is up with that place for sure.

normally his company sets them all up, runs load tests, etc. he just dropped them off there. told me it was the first time ever in 20 years of the business a customer has had him do that.


Denver is almost the geographic center of CONUS. The US govt. has long planned on using the area as a HQ if Nuclear war came. Today, the Rockies are almost impervious to any assault except from the air,and on foot. People that "know" are heading out that way in larger numbers now, and are living off grid.


I thought the center of the country would be in Kansas or Nebraska somewhere

[Fortyone]

Chuck Baldwin is a true patriot in every sense of the word and he knows the score.

For his entire family to pull up stakes and relocate after all these years to Montana gives me real cause for concern.


Maybe he's thinking along these lines... http://northwestfront.org/

"The Northwest Front is a political organization of Aryan men and women who recognize that an independent and sovereign White nation in the Pacific Northwest is the only possibility for the survival of the White race on this continent.

"Does it seem as if society just isn’t working anymore?

"Most people agree that schools have quit providing students a good education. Why are standards being lowered and lowered again? People are victimized in their own homes by violent criminals. Why aren’t the criminals locked up? And who trusts our politicians, our media, or leadership of the companies we work for? Why are our jobs being outsourced to foreign countries? Why are our politicians such fools and traitors who sell us out at the drop of a hat?

"Maybe you’ve been thinking that there has to be a better way.
Maybe you, like us, want to be part of the answer to society’s problems. You can be!."

http://northwestfront.org/


You know, Ive looked into these Northwest Front and these types of migratory areas. Why do White nationalists ALWAYS seem to want to include Washington and Oregon in their regions? Whats the desire? i have been to these states and they are two of the most Leftist states Ive ever been,. very "Diverse",very populated by minorities. Is it so they could have ports? Other than that I see no reason for it. Montana and Idaho I definitely understand. seems to me a better "Union" would be Montana, Idaho, Wyoming Colorado and Utah.

[Fortyone]

something is certainly up with colorado.

i have a friend whose company sells those huge power backup/generator things. the things that are the size of a small house and kick on as power backup for airports, hospitals etc.

i don't want to go all conspiracy with the denver airport, but he told me he personally delivered about 5 times as many as would be needed to backup the airport, and he was only one of 3 other vendors he saw delivering the same amount. something is up with that place for sure.

normally his company sets them all up, runs load tests, etc. he just dropped them off there. told me it was the first time ever in 20 years of the business a customer has had him do that.


Denver is almost the geographic center of CONUS. The US govt. has long planned on using the area as a HQ if Nuclear war came. Today, the Rockies are almost impervious to any assault except from the air,and on foot. People that "know" are heading out that way in larger numbers now, and are living off grid.


I thought the center of the country would be in Kansas or Nebraska somewhere


It is, Its Lebanon Kansas. In the plains.Denver more appropriately isnt the actual center, but is at the foot of the Rockies and had the infrastructure to continue as a functioning political center if needed. Id rather be in the Rockies than in the plains.

[hoarder]

Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that.

I have always marveled at this. The Rocky Mountain states are landlocked.
If you're going to stay and fight as opposed to run away, what difference does it make if it's landlocked? Are you thinking some entity from another region might supply provisions by sea?

[cedarchopper]

Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that.

I have always marveled at this. The Rocky Mountain states are landlocked.
If you're going to stay and fight as opposed to run away, what difference does it make if it's landlocked? Are you thinking some entity from another region might supply provisions by sea?


How well do you think someone from a warm sunny climate will be able to handle the cold winters and long dark nights? I'm sure it will be a big adjustment for his clan...but after what has happened to the Gulf, Montana might be appreciated.

[SWRichmond]

Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that.

I have always marveled at this. The Rocky Mountain states are landlocked.
If you're going to stay and fight as opposed to run away, what difference does it make if it's landlocked? Are you thinking some entity from another region might supply provisions by sea?


So they stay and fight, and prevail in their immediate efforts to thwart disarmament by Leviathan. Then what? How do they trade in order to maintain a productive economy? Who do they trade with, the same Leviathan that still surrounds them?

[Fortyone]

Thinks the Rocky Mtn states will be where to be in the fight for freedom, but doesn't really elaborate much on that.

I have always marveled at this. The Rocky Mountain states are landlocked.
If you're going to stay and fight as opposed to run away, what difference does it make if it's landlocked? Are you thinking some entity from another region might supply provisions by sea?


So they stay and fight, and prevail in their immediate efforts to thwart disarmament by Leviathan. Then what? How do they trade in order to maintain a productive economy? Who do they trade with, the same Leviathan that still surrounds them?


After a while, yes. Switzerland maintained its independence for centuries surrounded by large aggressive empires. The idea is that the mountains enhance your defense. A coastal area would be vulnerable not only from inland, but a seaborne invasion

[hoarder]

So they stay and fight, and prevail in their immediate efforts to thwart disarmament by Leviathan. Then what? How do they trade in order to maintain a productive economy? Who do they trade with, the same Leviathan that still surrounds them?
There will be no productive economy in the future, only survival and struggle against world government. If the US were limited to trading within it's borders, we would be better off anyway. International trade brought world government to our doorstep.
Although I have moved from Texas to the NW and love it, I don't really see this as a solution to the problem.
You didn't answer about the "landlocked" question, so I take it you mean go overseas.
Running away to foreign countries is cowardly and makes no sense because world government can not be escaped, only fought and resisted.

[Fortyone]

So they stay and fight, and prevail in their immediate efforts to thwart disarmament by Leviathan. Then what? How do they trade in order to maintain a productive economy? Who do they trade with, the same Leviathan that still surrounds them?
There will be no productive economy in the future, only survival and struggle against world government. If the US were limited to trading within it's borders, we would be better off anyway. International trade brought world government to our doorstep.
Although I have moved from Texas to the NW and love it, I don't really see this as a solution to the problem.
You didn't answer about the "landlocked" question, so I take it you mean go overseas.
Running away to foreign countries is cowardly and makes no sense because world government can not be escaped, only fought and resisted.


+100. Anyway in the event of a US collapse, there would be a Global collapse. Running away to some third world shithole only allows safety for as long as your silver and gold do. then your a foreign target.

[SWRichmond]

So they stay and fight, and prevail in their immediate efforts to thwart disarmament by Leviathan. Then what? How do they trade in order to maintain a productive economy? Who do they trade with, the same Leviathan that still surrounds them?
There will be no productive economy in the future, only survival and struggle against world government. If the US were limited to trading within it's borders, we would be better off anyway. International trade brought world government to our doorstep.
Although I have moved from Texas to the NW and love it, I don't really see this as a solution to the problem.
You didn't answer about the "landlocked" question, so I take it you mean go overseas.
Running away to foreign countries is cowardly and makes no sense because world government can not be escaped, only fought and resisted.


I live in a coastal area with deep water ports, farmland and indigenous energy sources. No one said anything about running away.

[DMac]

Sometimes running away is the best option. Why fight a losing battle when you can regroup and become a better adversary?

I am on the fence when it comes to expatriation. One benefit is to provide a beachhead for other family should the need for them to run come about. My family has only been here for 2 generations.

Stay or go, my plan will always include an escape mechanism.

[Book]

"God has led us to the conviction that Montana (along with other Mountain states) is going to be the tip of the spear in the freedom fight; and we believe God wants us to be part of that fight."

Honestly though when you hear someone talk like this, and you know they are hard and deep into habitual religious worshiping, you have to realize they're essentially crazy enough to brainwash themselves into believing absolutely anything they want to if it's wrapped in "god" aka the psychological trigger.



I agree. When I decided to leave California in 1980 to move to Idaho it was because of LOGICAL reasons. God didn't need to tell me to flee that negro and mexican and gay-infested culture...lol.

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[goldmonkey]

Chuck Baldwin's Montana Move—"We Hit A Nerve" (http://www.vdare.com/baldwin/100908_hit_a_nerve.htm)

[Hermie]

Chuck Baldwin's Montana Move—"We Hit A Nerve" (http://www.vdare.com/baldwin/100908_hit_a_nerve.htm)


Great lines in that column. I'm going to remember them and use them.

" The tyrannical tentacles of Washington, D.C., are making life a proverbial hell on earth for people all over the country,
and, unfortunately, many (if not most) states are unwilling to resist the Crown’s (excuse me, DC’s) evil machinations.'

Great idea to always refer to the government as 'the Crown' !
Maybe it will cause some to take notice and awaken a bit.

Also, from now on I will always use the term, 'the States united', putting the emphasis where it should be.

Thanks for posting this.

...

[goldmonkey]

Amish population growing, heading west (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-09-14-amish-population_N.htm)


The Amish population is growing and embarking on a westward
migration that has now reached as far as Colorado, South Dakota and Montana ...

[Fortyone]

Amish population growing, heading west (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-09-14-amish-population_N.htm)


The Amish population is growing and embarking on a westward
migration that has now reached as far as Colorado, South Dakota and Montana ...


They appear to be fleeing the deep south (Old Confederacy)according to your link. What do they know we do not? I must investigate this.

[hoarder]

They appear to be fleeing the deep south (Old Confederacy)according to your link. What do they know we do not? I must investigate this.
Most likely they are in complete denial about why they have to leave the areas they're leaving, just like the Californians that are/have been moving to Montana.

[Fortyone]

They appear to be fleeing the deep south (Old Confederacy)according to your link. What do they know we do not? I must investigate this.
Most likely they are in complete denial about why they have to leave the areas they're leaving, just like the Californians that are/have been moving to Montana.


So far what Ive dug up is some are leaving because they are being forced to get picture ID, something they used to be exempt from and others are just moving west for cheaper land. Im going to dig some more and post a thread later this week.

[Stop Making Cents]

I think Chuck is right. The upper midwest - Montana / Idaho etc. will be the last stand for freedom. The border states have already been reconquered by Mexico, and the rest of our nation is filled with negroids and every other sort of non-white.

Thank Ted Kennedy's 1965 immigration bill that he promised wouldn't change the demographic makeup of our nation. It only took 40 years and now we're sliding into a 3rd world hellhole.

Buckle Up! It's gonna be one hell of a wild ride!