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Phoenix
9th September 2010, 06:03 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/7991389/At-least-15-dead-in-Russia-suicide-bomb-blast.html


At least 15 dead in Russia suicide bomb blast

At least 15 people have been killed and more than 60 wounded after a suicide bombing in the southern Russian city of Vladikavkaz, officials have confirmed.

Published: 11:30AM BST 09 Sep 2010

The attack on a market in the Caucasus city, in the North Ossetia region, has been described by the Russian authorities as an "act of terror".

"The blast in Vladikavkaz has been organised by a suicide bomber who drove up to the entrance of the market in a Volga 3102 car," said Taimuraz Mamsurov, a senior North Ossetian official.

"The headless body of the presumed terrorist was found in the car which exploded opposite the central market."

The bombing created carnage around the market, with several cars reduced to wreckage by the blast and charred corpses laid out on stretchers.

The ITAR-TASS news agency said that the power of the blast shattered windows of nearby buildings.

The attack was the latest to hit the Caucasus region, plagued by an Islamist-inspired insurgency.

Dmitry Medvedev, Russia's President ordered his envoy for the Russian North Caucasus region, Alexander Khloponin, to urgently fly to Vladikavkaz.

North Ossetia lies in Russia's troubled Northern Caucasus region, north of the Georgian breakaway region of South Ossetia over which Moscow and Tbilisi fought a war in August 2008.

It is the only majority Christian region in Russia's largely Muslim North Caucasus and neighbours the Muslim region of Ingushetia which has been beset by deadly attacks over the last months.

Interfax said the blast had been caused by explosives weighing 22 pounds of TNT equivalent. ITAR-TASS said there was panic at the market amid fears there could be a second explosion.

"A second threat is not ruled out and at the current moment the perimeter of the market and nearby roads is being encircled," a local interior ministry spokesman told ITAR-TASS.

It said the explosion went off at the entrance to the market, which is usually crowded as it is where employers recruit potential employees.

Although it has seen increasing unrest over the past years, North Ossetia has traditionally been more stable than the Muslim regions of the North Caucasus.

In November 2008, the mayor of the city was killed when an assassin shot him in the chest near his home.

Russia has been on a state of high alert after the double bombings carried out by two female suicide bombers on the Moscow metro on March 29 killed 40 and wounded more than 100.

The Kremlin fought two wars against separatist rebels in Chechnya in the 1990s but the insurgency has now become more Islamist in tone and has spread to neighbouring Ingushetia and Dagestan.

Fortyone
9th September 2010, 06:05 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.

Phoenix
9th September 2010, 06:16 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Any bets on how long before some towelhead prick here posts commentary that "Mossad" did this?

Fortyone
9th September 2010, 07:02 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Any bets on how long before some towelhead prick here posts commentary that "Mossad" did this?


i noticed a disturbing cricket sound on this thread, almost as no one cares. :conf:

This is almost embarassing on the lack of compassion but fury for Koran burners.

Down1
9th September 2010, 07:24 PM
Russia's problems for oppressing the Chechen people are her own.
15 dead gets you guys mad, but the millions of Russians Hitler killed was great.
Disturbing news from the Empires AfPak war front has my attention right now.


US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'

Soldiers face charges over secret 'kill team' which allegedly murdered at random and collected fingers as trophies of war

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingers

Fortyone
9th September 2010, 07:39 PM
Russia's problems for oppressing the Chechen people are her own.
15 dead gets you guys mad, but the millions of Russians Hitler killed was great.
Disturbing news from the Empires AfPak war front has my attention right now.


US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'

Soldiers face charges over secret 'kill team' which allegedly murdered at random and collected fingers as trophies of war

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingers





well, thats one anyway, Down good subject, but would make a better stand alone thread,no?

Fortyone
9th September 2010, 07:42 PM
Oh yes , Russian oppression of the defunct Khazar Khanate.

Phoenix
9th September 2010, 08:25 PM
Russia's problems for oppressing the Chechen people are her own.


Another towelhead apologist. ::)

The Russians who live there were BORN there. Doesn't matter to the Muslim Chechen subhumans that abuse them. Just like in Kosovo.

madfranks
9th September 2010, 08:57 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Who are they going to retaliate against if the nationality of the bomber is never discovered?

Fortyone
10th September 2010, 03:17 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Who are they going to retaliate against if the nationality of the bomber is never discovered?


They will improvise. This is how Russians operate. This will not go unpunished. If Russia cannot pin it to a certain group, they will lash out at any Islamic separatists that are convenient. Watch Chechnya.

Neuro
10th September 2010, 03:43 AM
How convenient the head of the alleged perp was not there...

Down1
10th September 2010, 05:55 AM
Another towelhead apologist. ::)

The Russians who live there were BORN there. Doesn't matter to the Muslim Chechen subhumans that abuse them. Just like in Kosovo.

Let's get back to the Russian "subhumans".
Why are you upset about them being killed ?
The Russians your boy Hitler killed were born there. Just like the Brits he killed were born in Britain, same as the French he killed, same as the Greeks he killed, same as the Norwegians he killed, same as .....

DMac
10th September 2010, 07:47 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Any bets on how long before some towelhead prick here posts commentary that "Mossad" did this?


Carbombs are the CIA/Mossad specialty, I know you know this. Why are you so quick to decide who is behind this? You know that black ops have been fighting a covert war with Russia in that region for years now, right?

US/Israel has been quietly rearming Georgia over the past year.

We need more info.

Awoke
10th September 2010, 08:09 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Well, the Caucasus mountains are exactly where "they" originated from...





Any bets on how long before some towelhead prick here posts commentary that "Mossad" did this?


Carbombs are the CIA/Mossad specialty, I know you know this. Why are you so quick to decide who is behind this? You know that black ops have been fighting a covert war with Russia in that region for years now, right?

US/Israel has been quietly rearming Georgia over the past year.

We need more info.



Exactly.

wildcard
10th September 2010, 11:54 AM
Woohoo, apparently I'm a towelhead loving prick! :-*

These are desperate people.

*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.

DMac
10th September 2010, 11:57 AM
Woohoo, apparently I'm a towelhead loving prick! :-*

These are desperate people.

*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.


I think I saw Ponce accuse Book of working for the Mossad in another thread :D

Phoenix
10th September 2010, 01:35 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post this. I was going to see if anyone but me was interested. Woe upon the land where they originated from.Russia isnt the US, there will be a reckoning.


Any bets on how long before some towelhead prick here posts commentary that "Mossad" did this?


Carbombs are the CIA/Mossad specialty, I know you know this. Why are you so quick to decide who is behind this? You know that black ops have been fighting a covert war with Russia in that region for years now, right?

US/Israel has been quietly rearming Georgia over the past year.

We need more info.



The FSB has plenty of info. If Israel attacked Russia, Russia would respond. FSB knows this isn't Mossad, and Mossad isn't fu*king dumb enough to attack a state like Russia.

wildcard
10th September 2010, 01:41 PM
When you are strapping explosives to yourself, you're pretty much out of other options. Kinda like the Palestinians.

Phoenix
10th September 2010, 01:44 PM
Woohoo, apparently I'm a towelhead loving prick! :-*

These are desperate people.

*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.


Worried about me? That I've "adjusted my focus"? Don't. I haven't shifted from my position on the Jews being the World's Foremost Problem. I've only expanded my position to fully recognize that Islam has been, is, and will remain a Problem.

The irritation I'm causing for people like PatMecca is due to the fact he is pro-Islamic, anti-Semitic. I'm anti-both. My reputation at GIM was for being an anti-Semite, and was misperceived as appreciating Mooslims and Islam. I haven't changed; the perception of me by many has changed due to my freedom here to tell the WHOLE Truth.

My loyalties are three: God, Family, Aryan race. What serves those is Good, what harms them is Bad.

Islam does no good for either of them. Islam is a race-mixing, devolutionary ideology. They attack our brothers in Serbia (Kosovo) and Russia; that means they are OUR enemy.


Here's an example of the "love" Mooslims extend to even their own racial kinsmen:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9

Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses

Kimberly West
Published June 18, 2007

After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned.

Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP.

"Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said.

Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence.

"This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom."

One young woman told the Catholic News Service that she was concerned the Islamic extremists would "enforce a strict dress code, forcing women to wear veils and robes." One Christian teenager spoke to the Catholic News Service on the condition that her name not be used. She said the days of fighting had been "very difficult" but they were "OK now."


Keep in mind Palestinian Christians predate Mooslims by over FIVE CENTURIES. Palestinian Christians take it from both Jews AND Muslims. These people deserve our love and respect; they are the descendants of the very people who actually witnessed Jesus Christ's journey on Earth. They've stood by Christ through 2000 years of Roman, Pharisee, Arabic, Islamic, and Talmudic persecution.

Awoke
10th September 2010, 07:47 PM
*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.



I have been seeing this change too.

Phoenix
11th September 2010, 01:26 AM
*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.



I have been seeing this change too.


I reiterate: THERE IS NO CHANGE. I have only expanded my attention to the OTHER problem.

I've always been a maverick. I don't care what people think, because often the Truth is very unpopular. I surely appreciate when people agree with me, but I'm not afraid to be at odds with people who are my normal allies.

My compliance with the required stances of the "Unified anti-Zionist Front" is broken. No longer will I adhere to the "poor Muslims / poor Muslim Palestinians" position. The Truth demands it. Jews AND Muslims are a problem.

silver solution
11th September 2010, 01:47 AM
Woohoo, apparently I'm a towelhead loving prick! :-*

These are desperate people.

*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.


Worried about me? That I've "adjusted my focus"? Don't. I haven't shifted from my position on the Jews being the World's Foremost Problem. I've only expanded my position to fully recognize that Islam has been, is, and will remain a Problem.

The irritation I'm causing for people like PatMecca is due to the fact he is pro-Islamic, anti-Semitic. I'm anti-both. My reputation at GIM was for being an anti-Semite, and was misperceived as appreciating Mooslims and Islam. I haven't changed; the perception of me by many has changed due to my freedom here to tell the WHOLE Truth.

My loyalties are three: God, Family, Aryan race. What serves those is Good, what harms them is Bad.

Islam does no good for either of them. Islam is a race-mixing, devolutionary ideology. They attack our brothers in Serbia (Kosovo) and Russia; that means they are OUR enemy.


Here's an example of the "love" Mooslims extend to even their own racial kinsmen:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9

Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses

Kimberly West
Published June 18, 2007

After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned.

Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP.

"Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said.

Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence.

"This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom."

One young woman told the Catholic News Service that she was concerned the Islamic extremists would "enforce a strict dress code, forcing women to wear veils and robes." One Christian teenager spoke to the Catholic News Service on the condition that her name not be used. She said the days of fighting had been "very difficult" but they were "OK now."


Keep in mind Palestinian Christians predate Mooslims by over FIVE CENTURIES. Palestinian Christians take it from both Jews AND Muslims. These people deserve our love and respect; they are the descendants of the very people who actually witnessed Jesus Christ's journey on Earth. They've stood by Christ through 2000 years of Roman, Pharisee, Arabic, Islamic, and Talmudic persecution.


The Cross is and idol. Idol worshipers should be killed and their idols destroyed.

The Muslims are being lead my the blind guides for power and control. They have tossed out the teachings in the Holy Koran and using their talmud like book to rule over the people.

Its all satans power and control game.

Phoenix
11th September 2010, 02:02 AM
The Cross is and idol. Idol worshipers should be killed and their idols destroyed.


The Cross is a symbol, that many have made into an idol.

Fortyone
11th September 2010, 04:23 AM
Woohoo, apparently I'm a towelhead loving prick! :-*

These are desperate people.

*I'm worried about you Phoenix. Worried about Book too. You guys have changed recently.


Worried about me? That I've "adjusted my focus"? Don't. I haven't shifted from my position on the Jews being the World's Foremost Problem. I've only expanded my position to fully recognize that Islam has been, is, and will remain a Problem.

The irritation I'm causing for people like PatMecca is due to the fact he is pro-Islamic, anti-Semitic. I'm anti-both. My reputation at GIM was for being an anti-Semite, and was misperceived as appreciating Mooslims and Islam. I haven't changed; the perception of me by many has changed due to my freedom here to tell the WHOLE Truth.

My loyalties are three: God, Family, Aryan race. What serves those is Good, what harms them is Bad.

Islam does no good for either of them. Islam is a race-mixing, devolutionary ideology. They attack our brothers in Serbia (Kosovo) and Russia; that means they are OUR enemy.


Here's an example of the "love" Mooslims extend to even their own racial kinsmen:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9

Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses

Kimberly West
Published June 18, 2007

After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned.

Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP.

"Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said.

Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence.

"This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom."

One young woman told the Catholic News Service that she was concerned the Islamic extremists would "enforce a strict dress code, forcing women to wear veils and robes." One Christian teenager spoke to the Catholic News Service on the condition that her name not be used. She said the days of fighting had been "very difficult" but they were "OK now."


Keep in mind Palestinian Christians predate Mooslims by over FIVE CENTURIES. Palestinian Christians take it from both Jews AND Muslims. These people deserve our love and respect; they are the descendants of the very people who actually witnessed Jesus Christ's journey on Earth. They've stood by Christ through 2000 years of Roman, Pharisee, Arabic, Islamic, and Talmudic persecution.


The Cross is and idol. Idol worshipers should be killed and their idols destroyed.

The Muslims are being lead my the blind guides for power and control. They have tossed out the teachings in the Holy Koran and using their talmud like book to rule over the people.

Its all satans power and control game.


No Christian "Worships" the cross. Its a representation of the Crucifiction, thats it.The older Christian denominations have used it from day one.Catholics, Anglicans,Orthodox,Lutherans,they all use it or a version if it as a symbol of faith,The Johnny come lately Pentecostals and their type of holy rollers try and make it seem as Idol worship.

wildcard
11th September 2010, 11:28 AM
Again, I don't care about what is going on in some country halfway around the world. I care about what is going on here. Get rid of the jew and you get rid of the rest. I have no desire to live amongst muzzes or jews or buddhists for that matter. Send them back to their own lands and let them do as they please until they bother us. Then we nuke them til they glow.

Phoenix
11th September 2010, 01:59 PM
Again, I don't care about what is going on in some country halfway around the world. I care about what is going on here. Get rid of the jew and you get rid of the rest. I have no desire to live amongst muzzes or jews or buddhists for that matter. Send them back to their own lands and let them do as they please until they bother us. Then we nuke them til they glow.


Russia is part of Aryania. What happens there does affect us. And what is happening there now will be happening here soon. "Allah Akbar."

silver solution
11th September 2010, 02:16 PM
"No Christian "Worships" the cross. Its a representation of the Crucifiction, thats it.The older Christian denominations have used it from day one.Catholics, Anglicans,Orthodox,Lutherans,they all use it or a version if it as a symbol of faith,The Johnny come lately Pentecostals and their type of holy rollers try and make it seem as Idol worship."
[/quote]

Its an ancient death idol going way back before Jesus' time like thousands of years if I remember right. The harlot churches you speak of are just daughters of the great Babylonian whore. All are into some forms of idol worship. We have a Babylonian idol worshiping church system, Babylonian idol worshiping market system and a Babylonian bloodsucking (left and right politics) idol worshiping demon-crazy system they call democracy.

wildcard
11th September 2010, 02:20 PM
Again, I don't care about what is going on in some country halfway around the world. I care about what is going on here. Get rid of the jew and you get rid of the rest. I have no desire to live amongst muzzes or jews or buddhists for that matter. Send them back to their own lands and let them do as they please until they bother us. Then we nuke them til they glow.


Russia is part of Aryania. What happens there does affect us. And what is happening there now will be happening here soon. "Allah Akbar."


And how will we help them when we cannot help ourselves?

Phoenix
11th September 2010, 02:23 PM
And how will we help them when we cannot help ourselves?


Moral support is better than nothing. Most Russians think most Americans hate them. Let's show them there are a few of us who love them.

Awoke
11th September 2010, 07:04 PM
Its an ancient death idol going way back before Jesus' time like thousands of years if I remember right. The harlot churches you speak of are just daughters of the great Babylonian whore. All are into some forms of idol worship. We have a Babylonian idol worshiping church system, Babylonian idol worshiping market system and a Babylonian bloodsucking (left and right politics) idol worshiping demon-crazy system they call democracy.


To speak with such certainty, you must be a man of conviction or faith.
Are you?

The cross was a dreaded symbol of death for years before Christ was crucified on it and died for us.
Since his sacrifice, it is a symbol that we celebrate, because he gave his life for us, and through that sacrifice we can be saved and enter the kingdom of heaven.

Down1
11th September 2010, 07:13 PM
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Moral support is better than nothing. Most Russians think most Americans hate them. Let's show them there are a few of us who love them.

You are one of the Americans that hate them aren't you ?
Or are you renouncing Hitler finally.
You know your boy thought they were subhuman.
You can't have it both ways.

Fortyone
12th September 2010, 08:23 AM
"No Christian "Worships" the cross. Its a representation of the Crucifiction, thats it.The older Christian denominations have used it from day one.Catholics, Anglicans,Orthodox,Lutherans,they all use it or a version if it as a symbol of faith,The Johnny come lately Pentecostals and their type of holy rollers try and make it seem as Idol worship."


Its an ancient death idol going way back before Jesus' time like thousands of years if I remember right. The harlot churches you speak of are just daughters of the great Babylonian whore. All are into some forms of idol worship. We have a Babylonian idol worshiping church system, Babylonian idol worshiping market system and a Babylonian bloodsucking (left and right politics) idol worshiping demon-crazy system they call democracy.


[/quote]

Hows all that snake handling,and tongue talking working out for ya? Herbert Armstrong speak to you from the afterlife too?

silver solution
12th September 2010, 05:19 PM
Its an ancient death idol going way back before Jesus' time like thousands of years if I remember right. The harlot churches you speak of are just daughters of the great Babylonian whore. All are into some forms of idol worship. We have a Babylonian idol worshiping church system, Babylonian idol worshiping market system and a Babylonian bloodsucking (left and right politics) idol worshiping demon-crazy system they call democracy.


To speak with such certainty, you must be a man of conviction or faith.
Are you?

The cross was a dreaded symbol of death for years before Christ was crucified on it and died for us.
Since his sacrifice, it is a symbol that we celebrate, because he gave his life for us, and through that sacrifice we can be saved and enter the kingdom of heaven.
I try.

Its an idol put a dead body its even more an idol.

You celebrate a Babylonian idol not Jesus.

Fortyone
12th September 2010, 06:20 PM
Its an ancient death idol going way back before Jesus' time like thousands of years if I remember right. The harlot churches you speak of are just daughters of the great Babylonian whore. All are into some forms of idol worship. We have a Babylonian idol worshiping church system, Babylonian idol worshiping market system and a Babylonian bloodsucking (left and right politics) idol worshiping demon-crazy system they call democracy.


To speak with such certainty, you must be a man of conviction or faith.
Are you?

The cross was a dreaded symbol of death for years before Christ was crucified on it and died for us.
Since his sacrifice, it is a symbol that we celebrate, because he gave his life for us, and through that sacrifice we can be saved and enter the kingdom of heaven.
I try.

Its an idol put a dead body its even more an idol.

You celebrate a Babylonian idol not Jesus.



Since 7th Trump is here, I smell Quantum.

Awoke
12th September 2010, 07:07 PM
I try.

Its an idol put a dead body its even more an idol.

You celebrate a Babylonian idol not Jesus.


You're on crack.
I worship Jesus Christ, the Holy Father and the Holy Spirit.

I don't worship the "cross", as much as you may try to convince everyone.
You are a jew, aren't you?

Fortyone
12th September 2010, 07:09 PM
I try.

Its an idol put a dead body its even more an idol.

You celebrate a Babylonian idol not Jesus.


You're on crack.
I worship Jesus Christ, the Holy Father and the Holy Spirit.

I don't worship the "cross", as much as you may try to convince everyone.
You are a jew, aren't you?
[/quote]

I dont believe he is a Jew. He acts more like a Pentacostal, with the "Whore of Babylon" and "Harlot" references.

Awoke
12th September 2010, 07:16 PM
I don't think so. The Pentecostals are still Christian, and have a Cross on their Church.

He is accusing us (me) of idoltry by "worshipping the cross".

I think hes either a jew or an atheist that likes to argue.

silver solution
12th September 2010, 10:27 PM
I try.

Its an idol put a dead body its even more an idol.

You celebrate a Babylonian idol not Jesus.


You're on crack.
I worship Jesus Christ, the Holy Father and the Holy Spirit.

I don't worship the "cross", as much as you may try to convince everyone.
You are a jew, aren't you?
I don't believe you? I believe you follow one of the whores.

So what harlet (church) do you follow?

I try and Follow "The Way" I have not been great at it.

Awoke
12th September 2010, 11:58 PM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?

Fortyone
13th September 2010, 03:43 AM
I don't think so. The Pentecostals are still Christian, and have a Cross on their Church.

He is accusing us (me) of idoltry by "worshipping the cross".

I think hes either a jew or an atheist that likes to argue.


Maybe so, he is real big on the "harlot"term though. maybe a JW

silver solution
24th September 2010, 10:35 PM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?


You go to a sun worshiping, church of Babylon and pray on your knee in front of idols and you think you are a follower of Jesus :-)??

Jesus was anti church. God gave permission for one church that is it.

2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of Light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the force (energy) that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!
6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall He] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?
6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
6:33 But seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient for the day [is] the evil thereof.

I'm a follower of "The Way" so no.

silver solution
24th September 2010, 10:44 PM
Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in PURPLE (bishops) and SCARLET (cardinals) colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY (2 Thess. 2:7), BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (her daughters) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of her saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
17:7 And the angel said unto me, Why didst thou marvel? (Stop it!) I will tell thee the MYSTERY of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Olmstein
24th September 2010, 10:57 PM
I love watching self professed Christians arguing about who is worshiping the invisible man in the sky the right way. LOL

BTW, this whole thread now belongs in the religion ghetto subforum.

Awoke
25th September 2010, 03:48 AM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?


You go to a sun worshiping, church of Babylon and pray on your knee in front of idols and you think you are a follower of Jesus :-)??


Nice try. You are doing satan's work by attacking me, because I confess that I worship Jesus Christ.
Maybe your "Church" worships the sun, but mine doesn't. I still strongly suspect you are a kabbalistic talmudist jew, but of course you will not give me a straight answer, which is typical of your kind.

Regardless, I rarely enter Church, but I pray to Christ countless times a day. Thanks for trying to do his job though, by attempting to judge me. Seems you have a lot of growing to do before you can judge anything.








Jesus was anti church. God gave permission for one church that is it.

2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.


Where is this from? I don't recognize that.
Here are some New Testament references (http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?t=2&q=Church&b=drb) to "Church"



Matthew 16:18
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.




Acts Of Apostles 11:26
And they conversed there in the church a whole year; and they taught a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.




Ephesians 3:21
To him be glory in the church, and in Christ Jesus unto all generations, world without end. Amen.





In regards to the scriptures:



6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of Light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the force (energy) that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!
6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall He] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?
6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
6:33 But seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient for the day [is] the evil thereof.




Link to online Douay-Rheims (http://drbo.org/)
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
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[1] Take heed that you do not your justice before men, to be seen by them: otherwise you shall not have a reward of your Father who is in heaven.
[2] Therefore when thou dost an almsdeed, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honoured by men. Amen I say to you, they have received their reward.
[3] But when thou dost alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doth.
[4] That thy alms may be in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret will repay thee.
[5] And when ye pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites, that love to stand and pray in the synagogues and corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men: Amen I say to you, they have received their reward.

[1] "Your justice"... that is, works of justice; viz., fasting, prayer, and almsdeeds; which ought to be performed not out of ostentation, or a view to please men, but solely to please God.

[6] But thou when thou shalt pray, enter into thy chamber, and having shut the door, pray to thy Father in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret will repay thee.
[7] And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard.
[8] Be not you therefore like to them, for your Father knoweth what is needful for you, before you ask him.

[9] Thus therefore shall you pray: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
[10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
[11] Give us this day our supersubstantial bread.
[12] And forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors.
[13] And lead us not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. Amen.

[14] For if you will forgive men their offences, your heavenly Father will forgive you also your offences.
[15] But if you will not forgive men, neither will your Father forgive you your offences.




I'm a follower of "The Way" so no.


What "way" is that?





I love watching self professed Christians arguing about who is worshiping the invisible man in the sky the right way. LOL




Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.

I think I have this part right....

Awoke
25th September 2010, 03:54 AM
Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in PURPLE (bishops) and SCARLET (cardinals) colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:


You sure it's not in reference to sadducess and pharisees?

You just making this shit up as you go along? I know you jews twist and pervert the Old Testament into arcane black magic, but please step away from the New Testament.

7th trump
25th September 2010, 07:59 AM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?


You go to a sun worshiping, church of Babylon and pray on your knee in front of idols and you think you are a follower of Jesus :-)??

Jesus was anti church. God gave permission for one church that is it.

2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of Light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the force (energy) that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!
6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall He] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?
6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
6:33 But seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient for the day [is] the evil thereof.

I'm a follower of "The Way" so no.

Jesus only approved two churches out of seven, Smirna and Phillidelphia.
If you do not know why these two churches where good in the eyes of Christ you have a long way to go my friend, a long way if you think Jesus was anti-church!
As Awoke has alluded you dont need to go to church to overcome. You can anoint yourself as much as anyone else.
If you read that Bible at home you are in church. If you read that Bible at a freinds house you are in church. If you watch a tv program that teaches about Christ and his teachings you are in church. If you read the Bible at an airport waiting for your flight you are in church.

And by the way, your little additions with the parentheses is taking the scripture out of context.
I dont think you understand the subject from the object.

Stop Making Cents
25th September 2010, 09:14 AM
Islam is evil and should be eradicated. It has little to do with the race of those people in my opinion. We have Lebanese Christians around here and you wouldn't be able to tell them from most whites. But the fuckers that follow Islam are pure evil. I really believe that Islam will be the one world religion foretold in Revelations.

7th trump
25th September 2010, 09:58 AM
Islam is evil and should be eradicated. It has little to do with the race of those people in my opinion. We have Lebanese Christians around here and you wouldn't be able to tell them from most whites. But the f*ckers that follow Islam are pure evil. I really believe that Islam will be the one world religion foretold in Revelations.

I agree with you on islam being pure evil. However, this one world religion in Revelations wont be islam.
satans appearence in this world is peaceful and prosperous looking like the Lamb (Jesus) with horns (power) but with a voice of a dragon.
The reality of it all is you better understand this knock-off look a like fake jesus who's granted wonderous powers from Heaven is actually satan play acting the role of Christ.
There will be an abomination standing in Jerusalem claiming to be the Lamb (Jesus). Dont be fooled into worshipping this fake messiah abomination. Taking the mark of the beast on your forehead is believing this fake is the real deal. Taking the mark of the beast on your hand is doing what you beleive are the good works of helping along this fake messiahs church.
The world will be united under this church revival this fake will be heading up.

I will probaly be flamed for this, but all this talk of gold and silver means nothing. Your gold and silver will not save you. When this fake christ appears he's going to forgive all debt and what is gold and silver worth when debt is wiped clean if you woreship this fake messiah? You will not be able to buy nor sell without giving allegience to this fake messiah.
Gold and silver will be worth absolutely nothing and nobody will want it. Everybody will be following this fake messiah and giving allegience to him to wipe all their debt and be raptured away. Nobody is going to want to be left behind to deal with the devil (theory of the rapture lie).
Just as Jesus says His return will be like a thief in the night because most wont even understand that they have been worshipping satan during that hour of temptation. Most will have given in to the hour of temptation to have all their debt paid off and food on their plates. It will be a thief in the night surprise to them when the real Christ appears at the 7th trump.

Awoke
29th September 2010, 08:15 AM
An easy way to keep your guard up, spiritually, is to always remember that Christ is the enemy to lucifer. The NWO is constantly trying to destroy Christianity. Therefore any religion that is proclaimed to be global, where satan comes in the guise of the lamb, should obviously be regarded as suspect.

What I am trying to say is, the NWO satanists do not have your best interests in mind. If they tell you that we should all worship the messiah, run away.

When they have been working so hard at the destruction of the Church and the Faith, you can bet that any "religion" that they (Global PTB) suddenly advocate is serving a more sinister purpose: Stealing your soul.

silver solution
2nd October 2010, 12:20 AM
[/quote]
Jesus 8:9 If they say to you: "Who are you?", say: "We are His sons and we are the Elect of the Living Father". If they ask you: "What is the sign of your Father in you?", say to them: "It is a movement and a rest".


Of course I'm not a jew.

That is so Childish are you a reject from the stormfront?

Church means community of believers not a building with Idols. I do believe its a miss translation to trick people into building were blind guides can lead them to the Fire. All done by the elites for power and control of week minds. Smart people they just killed.

That is from "The Gospel according to Thomas" that the church you go pray in front of idols in did its best to destroy. They failed.

Peter never went to Rome and never built a church. Jesus Ordered him not to preach to anyone but Hebrews. Jesus also ordered this to His disciples.

Again its community.
Its a power and control money making trick.

Type The Way into a good Bible search engine. The Way back Home to Heaven, Gods Will, Islam means Gods Will. The Torah, The Covenant, A follower of Jesus.

I'm not judging you. You want to pray in Harlot houses in front of idols that your business.

Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (her daughters) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of her saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
17:7 And the angel said unto me, Why didst thou marvel? (Stop it!) I will tell thee the MYSTERY of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.


The TRUTH about Rabbis;
Priests and Imams





God abolished the Jewish Rabbis and priests two thousand years ago, but they have arrogantly and stubbornly refused to obey Him and cease their treason against God, for two thousand years, whilst, just like the pope etc. who do exactly the same, falsely claiming to work for Him, when He says they don't. The following is Biblical PROOF of this FACT:-


EZEKIEL 34 (Precis) 6th century B.C.

And the Word of the Lord came unto me saying, Son of man, prophesy AGAINST the "shepherds of Israel", prophesy , and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God unto the Levites (Jewish priests - Rabbis):
Woe be to the Levites of Israel that do feed themselves! Should not the Levites feed the flocks?
Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed (the prophets, whom God has fed PERSONALLY with His TRUTH): but ye feed NOT the flock.
The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken (Isaiah 61 v 1 & Luke 4 v 18), neither have ye sought that which was lost (the 10 "Lost" Tribes of Israel): but with force and with CRUELTY have ye ruled them.
Therefore, ye Levites, hear the Word of the Lord: (John 1 v 14).
As I Live, saith the Lord God, surely because My flock became a prey, and My flock became MEAT to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did My Levites search for My flock, but the LEVITES fed THEMSELVES and fed NOT My flock:
THEREFORE O ye LEVITES, hear the Word of the Lord;
Thus saith the Lord God; Behold I am AGAINST the LEVITES; and I will require My flock at their hand, and cause THEM (the Levites) to CEASE from feeding the flock; neither shall the LEVITES feed themselves any more; for I will deliver My flock from their MOUTH, that they (MY flock) may not be MEAT for them (the LEVITES).
For thus saith the Lord God; Behold I even I will both search My sheep and seek them out (John 10 v 11).
As a SHEPHERD seeketh out His flock in the day that He is among His sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out My sheep.
I will seek out that which is "Lost" (the 10 lost tribes - the "House of Israel") and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken (Isaiah 61 v 1 & Luke 4 v 18 and The COVENANT and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will DESTROY the fat (poison) and the strong: I will feed them with JUDGEMENT.
And I will set up ONE Shepherd over them (the flocks - plural - the 2 kingdoms - House of Israel and House of Judah and he shall feed them, even My "well-beloved"* servant, he shall feed them and he (ONLY) shall be their Shepherd (singular).
And I the Lord will be their God, and My "well-beloved"* (Matthew 3 v 17)(Son) servant a Prince (Son of the King - Michael - the Arch-angel - Daniel 10 v 21 & Revelation 12 v 7) among them; I the "I AM" LORD have spoken it.
And I will make with them a "Covenant of Peace" (the Prince of Peace - and the New Covenant / Testament reconfirming the Moral Law of the Old Covenant and adding a spiritual dimension to it).
And the tree of the field (Olive-Israel NOT Judah) shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land (England), and shall KNOW that I am the Lord, when I have broken the bands of their yoke (oppression) and delivered them out of the hand of those (the LEVITES) that served THEMSELVES of them (the flocks).
Thus shall they know that I the Lord their God am with them (EMMANUEL - Matthew 1 v 21-23), and that they even the "House of Israel" (the 10 "Lost Tribes") are My people (Brit-ish - Christian) saith the Lord God. (All 10 of the so-called "Lost" tribes accepted Christ as their Lord and are called Christian Nations - at least by name if not by nature).
And ye My flock, the flock of My pasture, are MEN and I am YOUR God, saith the Lord God.

This prophecy through Ezekiel was fulfilled and the rabbis abolished, except for Jesus the Rabboni, two thousand years ago, by Jesus and he confirmed it in Matthew 23 when he told everyone, including the 12 Disciples, that they must not be a priest because Christ from then on is the only priest recognised by God.

Matthew 23:8 But be NOT ye called rabbi; priest; imam (etc.): for ONE is your Teacher, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren.



Are you listening rabbis; pope; priests and imams?


The previous translators of Ezekiel who have all been priests, jewish and/or christian, in direct contravention of this prophecy from God, have purposely not translated the word David from Hebrew into English in a desperate attempt to hide the Truth and keep their jobs, thereby continuing to commit treason, for their master Satan, against God, whilst claiming, falsely, to serve Him.

* The word David means "well-beloved" but all the previous translators have translated the whole sentence from Hebrew into English without translating the word David, trying to create the false-impression that God was referring to king David, instead of to His "Well-Beloved" Son, Christ. This non-translation of the word David makes the prophecy into nonsense, because David had already been dead for 500 years before this prophecy was given to Ezekiel. That is exactly why the Jewish and christian priest translators conspired together not to translate this prophecy correctly and deceive the world, so they could all, of both religions, ignore what God had commanded them not to do and so keep their cushy jobs.

To back up this deception the Jews have said Jesus could not be the ONE Rabboni, or ONE Shepherd, referred to by God in Ezekiel 34 because he was not a Levite and they quote Jeremiah 33:18 for their authority, but again this is NOT the Truth. In both the Bible and the Koran we are informed by God that the Virgin Mary was from both the Line of David and also the Line of Amram the father of Moses, a Levite. She was a cousin of Elisabeth, who was the Levite wife of Zacharias (Luke 1:5) the priest and the mother of John the Baptist.





JEREMIAH 33 v 18

Neither shall the priests the LEVITES (shepherds of Israel) want (lack) A man (NOT lots of men) before Me to offer burnt* offerings (Matthew 3 v 11 & 12), and to do sacrifice continually (Luke 9 v 23 - "And he said to them ALL, if any man will come after Me (follow the Shepherd), let him deny himSELF (SELF-sacrifice), and take up his cross (of SELF-sacrifice) DAILY (continually) and follow Me (be unSELFish and feed the flocks)." Luke 9 v 24 "whoever will lose his "SELF"-life (daily) for My sake (continually), the same shall save it (his REAL Life - that of his spirit-Being or soul)."

* Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and [with] fire:
3:12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable Fire.

They refuse to recognise that the Messiah came as Jesus the Nazarite on the first-coming. But Christ had already pre-warned them, via the prophet Zechariah, that they would do this and SUFFER for it:-



ZECHARIAH 12 v 10

"And they (Jerusalem) shall look upon ME whom they pierced (whilst inside of the son of Mary body) and they (the Jews) shall MOURN for HIM (Jesus) as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
In that Day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the Valley of Megiddon (as they too are EXECUTED for treason).

The Valley of Megiddon is below the mountains of Megiddo - Har-Megiddo or in English - Armageddon - ARMAGEDDON.



9:107. And there are those who put up mosques (etc.), by way of mischief and BETRAYAL - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against "I AM" (Revelation 12:7) and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; but "I AM" doth declare that they are certainly LIARS.

silver solution
2nd October 2010, 12:39 AM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?


You go to a sun worshiping, church of Babylon and pray on your knee in front of idols and you think you are a follower of Jesus :-)??

Jesus was anti church. God gave permission for one church that is it.

2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of Light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the force (energy) that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!
6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall He] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?
6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
6:33 But seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient for the day [is] the evil thereof.

I'm a follower of "The Way" so no.

Jesus only approved two churches out of seven, Smirna and Phillidelphia.
If you do not know why these two churches where good in the eyes of Christ you have a long way to go my friend, a long way if you think Jesus was anti-church!
As Awoke has alluded you dont need to go to church to overcome. You can anoint yourself as much as anyone else.
If you read that Bible at home you are in church. If you read that Bible at a freinds house you are in church. If you watch a tv program that teaches about Christ and his teachings you are in church. If you read the Bible at an airport waiting for your flight you are in church.

And by the way, your little additions with the parentheses is taking the scripture out of context.
I dont think you understand the subject from the object.


Again its community of followers not church. If you watch TV preachers you are following blind guides and being lead to the fire.

silver solution
2nd October 2010, 01:11 AM
Islam is evil and should be eradicated. It has little to do with the race of those people in my opinion. We have Lebanese Christians around here and you wouldn't be able to tell them from most whites. But the f*ckers that follow Islam are pure evil. I really believe that Islam will be the one world religion foretold in Revelations.


So you think Gods Will is Evil? Islam means Gods Will.

Many Moslems or most all Moslems seem to pray in churches and follow blind guides like the Christians and Jews. The Koran said no churches. They have their own Talmud like book called the Hadith. Its been used to trick them. The Meccans made the teachings of God of no effect by the teaching of their Hadith - "Traditions of their fathers", just as the Jews did when they substituted their book the Talmud in the place of God's Torah. The Talmud was condemned by God through both Christ - Matthew 15 v 9 and Mohammed Sura 43:21-23. The word Hadith (in Arabic) means the same as the word Talmud (in Hebrew) - "the Traditions of the fathers".

The blind leading the blind into the fire. The christians are just as bad as the jews and the moslems and started a religion using Christ's name and teaching the opposite of what Christ actually said.

Mecca was an evil when Mohammed Mustafa was born and the Meccans drove him and the TRUE KORAN out because it was about Jerusalem and would have ruined their pilgrimage-business to their black rock and idol-worship.

After Mohammed's death the Meccans altered the Koran and betrayed him and God. Back to the idol worshiping business.

Fortyone
2nd October 2010, 03:27 AM
Islam means submission, Not Gods will.Your history is flawed.Where do you get your info? The ghost of Jim Jones?

illumin19
2nd October 2010, 02:46 PM
Peace silver solution,

I'm not un-aware of what you speak......
What do you make of Bakka? Al-Haram? Al-Qqsa?

Also, do you believe in Mahdi?

Salaam

Ponce
2nd October 2010, 07:32 PM
My answer is only to the heading of this thread because is all that I have to read........tell me of a religion that in one way or another has not killed in the name of peace or of their God?........I don't finger point to only one religion but rather extend both hands with all fingers outstretched pointing at all religions for all religions are guilty of the same crime.

Dogman
2nd October 2010, 07:40 PM
My answer is only to the heading of this thread because is all that I have to read........tell me of a religion that in one way or another has not killed in the name of peace or of their God?........I don't finger point to only one religion but rather extend both hands with all fingers outstretched pointing at all religions for all religions are guilty of the same crime.




Ponce on this I have to agree with you.

In all of human history more people have been killed in the name of religion , In all wars someones god was on their side and that included the other side.

Desolation LineTrimmer
2nd October 2010, 09:06 PM
My answer is only to the heading of this thread because is all that I have to read........tell me of a religion that in one way or another has not killed in the name of peace or of their God?........I don't finger point to only one religion but rather extend both hands with all fingers outstretched pointing at all religions for all religions are guilty of the same crime.




Ponce on this I have to agree with you.

In all of human history more people have been killed in the name of religion , In all wars someones god was on their side and that included the other side.


They were still fighting over land, women, wealth, power. Religion was/is the banner. It is like gangs, gangs aren't fighting over their specific names, colors, hand-signals, and tags. They are fighting over drug territory, i.e. wealth producing land.

Awoke
3rd October 2010, 11:45 AM
Silver Solution, are you telling me that Jesus Christ is an Idol?

You are talking circles and taking biblical quotes out of context. Just come out and say what you mean.

In your opinion, is Jesus Christ an "Idol"? Do you consider him a "False idol"?
Man up, and speak with direct honesty.

midnight rambler
3rd October 2010, 11:54 AM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.

And here's an example of an idol

http://www.davidmacd.com/images/statue_of%20jesus_antigua.jpg

"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image..."

Ponce
3rd October 2010, 01:03 PM
In their insecurity, and to afirm a place in heaven, men has build idols and houses of worship.......man is afraid of death and they think that by doing all that they will live in "heaven" forever...........they are so worried about death that they don't enjoy their lives here on Earth while alive, remember that heaven and hell is what you make of your life here on Earth.

Awoke
3rd October 2010, 01:30 PM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.



I agree. I would refer to the only post that Silver Solution has contributed that makes any sense so far:



Church means community of believers not a building with Idols

Fortyone
3rd October 2010, 01:55 PM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.



I agree. I would refer to the only post that Silver Solution has contributed that makes any sense so far:



Church means community of believers not a building with Idols





Save your breath. You arent going to get through their thick skulls that anything but the local Mayberry RFD Baptist church is correct. Now you have the Sovereigns,who will probably tell you dont read the Bible right and the Islamic apologists on you.

silver solution
8th October 2010, 01:47 AM
Silver Solution, are you telling me that Jesus Christ is an Idol?

You are talking circles and taking biblical quotes out of context. Just come out and say what you mean.

In your opinion, is Jesus Christ an "Idol"? Do you consider him a "False idol"?
Man up, and speak with direct honesty.
Jesus is not an idol. You put a body on a cross well its a idol.

silver solution
8th October 2010, 01:49 AM
Islam means submission, Not Gods will.Your history is flawed.Where do you get your info? The ghost of Jim Jones?
Submission to God.

Awoke
8th October 2010, 07:05 AM
You said earlier that you are a follower of "the way". I am curious to know more about that. Will you share in this thread about it? If not, maybe you could PM me. You have peaked my curiousity.

7th trump
8th October 2010, 07:21 AM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.

And here's an example of an idol

http://www.davidmacd.com/images/statue_of%20jesus_antigua.jpg

"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image..."

Where are getting that a depiction of Christ carrying the cross He's going to be cruxified on is idol worship?
It was roman practice that those going to be cruxified carry their own cross.

You make no sense at all except to peddle your own idol worshipping.
Are you jealous like satan was to be Christ.
You are following the same footsteps as lucifer did and all it got lucifer was a death sentence directly from God Himself.

7th trump
8th October 2010, 07:32 AM
I am non-denominational because I am on a quest for the absolute truth, however because of the limited amount of churches to pick from in my city, I attend a Catholic Church for Mass once in a while.
I don't go often, because I know the Churches have been compromised. My Faith in Christ is ever-present, and I pray almost hourly through the day.

My quest is to find the Christian Church that is closest to what was intended for the Christian faith, before the jew infiltrated, usurped, infected and divided it. Once I find that Church, I will attend regularily.

Now I have answered you directly.
Your turn.

Are you a kabbalistic talmudist jew?


You go to a sun worshiping, church of Babylon and pray on your knee in front of idols and you think you are a follower of Jesus :-)??

Jesus was anti church. God gave permission for one church that is it.

2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of Light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the force (energy) that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!
6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall He] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?
6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
6:33 But seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient for the day [is] the evil thereof.

I'm a follower of "The Way" so no.

Jesus only approved two churches out of seven, Smirna and Phillidelphia.
If you do not know why these two churches where good in the eyes of Christ you have a long way to go my friend, a long way if you think Jesus was anti-church!
As Awoke has alluded you dont need to go to church to overcome. You can anoint yourself as much as anyone else.
If you read that Bible at home you are in church. If you read that Bible at a freinds house you are in church. If you watch a tv program that teaches about Christ and his teachings you are in church. If you read the Bible at an airport waiting for your flight you are in church.

And by the way, your little additions with the parentheses is taking the scripture out of context.
I dont think you understand the subject from the object.


Again its community of followers not church. If you watch TV preachers you are following blind guides and being lead to the fire.

Watching tv preachers has nothing to do with anything.
The reason Christ approved the church Smirna and Phillidelphia are because of what they taught. They taught that satan comes first on the 6th trumpet, the 6th seal, the 6th vial........666 play acting as false or fake christ. In other words a fake messiah! They taught that the real Christ comes at the 7th trump.
You can watch all the TV preachers all you want and go to a church that pays taxes as long as its teaching that satan comes first play acting as christ and the real Christ comes at the 7th trumpet. The two churches taught that satans revolt was that lucifer wanted to sit in the Mercy seat, wanted to be Christ and worshipped as Christ. The revolt of wanting to be in the Mercy seat was against God and the death sentence for lucifer from God.
A church that pays taxes and preaches on tv is absolutley no concern to God will. Gods will concerns that you know and understand the Law and if you are lucky enough to live in the ends days (and we are) not to get fooled into beleiving (taking the mark of the beast on your forehead) that satan is christ.

silver solution
8th October 2010, 09:43 PM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.

And here's an example of an idol

http://www.davidmacd.com/images/statue_of%20jesus_antigua.jpg

"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image..."

Where are getting that a depiction of Christ carrying the cross He's going to be cruxified on is idol worship?
It was roman practice that those going to be cruxified carry their own cross.

You make no sense at all except to peddle your own idol worshipping.
Are you jealous like satan was to be Christ.
You are following the same footsteps as lucifer did and all it got lucifer was a death sentence directly from God Himself.
That is an idol plain and simple.

Awoke
8th October 2010, 09:55 PM
I think you're confused, SilverSolution.

I can only speak for myself when I say this, but:

When I pray to God, pray to God.

I don't look at a crucifix hanging on the wall and actually worship the crucifix itself. If I was to worship the crucifix, that would be idolatry.
I don't. I appreciate and respect the crucifix for the symbology it represents, but I don't actually pray to or worship the crucifix itself.

It is used as a reminder of the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made to save our souls.

If you don't get that, then I'm afraid you never will, and we are destined to disagree forever.

silver solution
9th October 2010, 01:11 AM
I think you're confused, SilverSolution.

I can only speak for myself when I say this, but:

When I pray to God, pray to God.

I don't look at a crucifix hanging on the wall and actually worship the crucifix itself. If I was to worship the crucifix, that would be idolatry.
I don't. I appreciate and respect the crucifix for the symbology it represents, but I don't actually pray to or worship the crucifix itself.

It is used as a reminder of the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made to save our souls.

If you don't get that, then I'm afraid you never will, and we are destined to disagree forever.


It should remind you of the commandments and being in a place praying infront of an idol is breaking one of the commandments.

Commandments means obey these rules as God commands you to do.

It's a direct command from God not to be around idols.

In Gods face you tell Him NO. I will do as I will. Screw off, just like the rest of the brainwashed, brain-dead followers of the blind leading the blind to the FIRE.

Awoke
9th October 2010, 11:48 AM
I asked you to explain what you meant when you said "The Way".

Are you going to, or are you just going to continue to insist that we are all going to burn in hell?

7th trump
9th October 2010, 03:18 PM
Any so-called church which has a 501(C)(3) is a business enterprise serving the corporate state masquerading as a church. A 501(C)(3) is the polar opposite of the bride of Christ.

And here's an example of an idol

http://www.davidmacd.com/images/statue_of%20jesus_antigua.jpg

"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image..."

Where are getting that a depiction of Christ carrying the cross He's going to be cruxified on is idol worship?
It was roman practice that those going to be cruxified carry their own cross.

You make no sense at all except to peddle your own idol worshipping.
Are you jealous like satan was to be Christ.
You are following the same footsteps as lucifer did and all it got lucifer was a death sentence directly from God Himself.
That is an idol plain and simple.

No its not an idol.
Give the definition to "idol" will ya so we all can see where the hell you are coming from.

7th trump
9th October 2010, 03:20 PM
I asked you to explain what you meant when you said "The Way".

Are you going to, or are you just going to continue to insist that we are all going to burn in hell?

He has no way and if he continues to try and get people to see that going through Christ is not the way it will he who is going to be destroyed if the firey pit.