Order of the Eastern Star

[Hatha Sunahara]

I recently became aware of a global organization that is Freemasonry for Women. I went to their website and did some reading about them. I thought I had an epiphany--like some things in my experience that were mysterious suddenly were explained. There may be some people here who belong to this organization. You can learn about it here:

http://www.easternstar.org/index.html

Their symbol is satanic. If you go to their 'About' page, you find this:



Eastern Star is a social order comprised of persons with spiritual values, but it is not a religion. Its appeal rests in the true beauty of the refreshing and character-building lessons that are so sincerely portrayed in its ritualistic work. A deep fraternal bond exists between its members. It is the wholesome relationship of sisterly and brotherly love brought about through high principles exemplified in our lives which makes us near and dear to each other.

This paragraph triggered my epiphany. Throughout my life, I have on occasions been encouraged by certain people to join organizations like this. I would ask them what is the purpose of the organization, and would get a non-reply. I would ask why they want me to join, and they would tell me that "I'd find fellowship among the members.'

I have since learned that this is the essence of a breeding ground for a secret society. It has no purpose other than to promote social contacts, bonding, and loyalty to the group. My mental image of such a group comes from Stanley Kubrick's film 'Eyes Wide Shut'. Not a religion, but has 'ritualistic work'. I just wonder what those rituals lead one to believe. (Is it devil worship?) I have never joined such a group. It is for people who rely on their social contacts for security. I have always relied on my talents and my developed skills to sustain myself, so I find such organizations laughable. But not funny. Regardless of how talented one is, in order to succeed in most organized endeavors in life, you have to belong to one of these organizations to get promotions and protection, and it makes it easier to get a job if you need one. For the people here who know a little about secret societies, this one is suitable for a case study.

Any thoughts?

Hatha

[DMac]

When I learned that Carol Paul, Ron's wife, was a member of the Eastern Star organization (Masonic in origin - and his daughters are Rainbow Girls, another offshoot) I realized that Paul was most likely controlled opposition.

The order is certainly Masonic.

[Book]

It is for people who rely on their social contacts for security....Any thoughts?



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Not so much an epiphany Hatha...lol.

:D

[SLV^GLD]

My father-in-law was a freemason. According to my mother-in-law he was 7th degree when he died. He died when my wife was 9 years old. As a result my MIL, my SIL and my wife are in the Order of the Eastern Star. I have been told that SIL was also a Rainbow Girl. None of the above women participate in any activities related to the organizations nor would they know how to nor would they care to. Apparently it means about as much as you want it to mean.

My understanding of the whole freemasonic thing is that it is a brotherhood of benefits. The secrecy is simply to prevent non-members from indulging in benefits. One of the primary benefits is that should a brother die his widow and/or orphans are perpetually cared for by the brotherhood. My MIL, SIL and wife are living proof that this is utter BS in terms of it being an absolute, anyhow.

Or, maybe, I'm the controlled opposition and I just don't know it because I'm a butterfly mind slave or some crap like that, right?

I'm not even implying that there is no merit to all the stuff spouted about the freemasons but I can definitively say that it is not 100% applicable.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Well, Book, the people in your middle picture are known by most people as 'The Bush Administration'. How many people know them as 'members of the Council on Foreign Relations", or as members of the Bilderberger Group? Or as members of whatever other secret society they belong to.

Richard Feynman, the physicist, wrote in one of his books how when he was in high school he was invited to join an elite 'club'. He went to the first meeting and discovered that all the club did was talk about who they wanted to invite to join the club. It was a mutual admiration society, and the members jobs was to praise and promote the other members to people outside the group. Feynman says he attended the first meeting and never went to any other meetings. My epiphany was how powerful these 'do-nothing' groups are in the larger society. It's because most people know nothing about them if they even know they exist.

Hatha

[RJB]

I walked through a masonic cemetary and was amazed that supposed Christians at their time of death did not have bible verses, crosses, or anything else linking them to Christ but rather they had the square on their tombstone and other masonic symbolism. The women had pentagrams on their tombstones.

[ShortJohnSilver]

http://www.lewissociety.org/innerring.php

It is a worthy read, however too long to quote in full.

(Note that CS Lewis does not dwell or address the issue of the great conspiracies, though in his Space Trilogy he very cleverly talks about it and exposes the main way that "they" work.)


And you will be drawn in, if you are drawn in, not by desire for gain or ease, but simply because at that moment, when the cup was so near your lips, you cannot bear to be thrust back again into the cold outer world. It would be so terrible to see the other man’s face—that genial, confidential, delightfully sophisticated face—turn suddenly cold and contemptuous, to know that you had been tried for the Inner Ring and rejected. And then, if you are drawn in, next week it will be something a little further from the rules, and next year something further still, but all in the jolliest, friendliest spirit. It may end in a crash, a scandal, and penal servitude; it may end in millions, a peerage and giving the prizes at your old school. But you will be a scoundrel.

[Tumbleweed]

I was doing some browsing around and came accross a talk on video by John Salza on freemasonry infiltrating the catholic church. It's long but is very interesting to me. I've also been slowly working my way through the book " The Plot against the Church" that Awoke brought to this forum. This talk on video and the book mentioned seem to be in agreement and are good information to keep in mind when we look around at what is going on in the world today and what has happned in the past. I believe it also speaks to the cause of a lot of conflict that has been taken place on this forum the last few days. I wasn't aware of the conflict that had been taking place here until this morning. I don't know how to imbed this video but I can post the link to it. Since this thread is about the eastern star I believe it is appropriate to post it here.


http://www.fatimachallenge.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63:masonry-unmasked&catid=21&Itemid=15

[EE_]

Is homosexuality rampant in their organization like their male counterpart?

[Hatha Sunahara]

Thanks for the link to the C. S. Lewis piece. That is new to me, and is just the thing I am looking for. I need to read more of Lewis's stuff. Looks like the Order of the Eastern Star is an elite club for the insiders. I just wonder what sort of rituals they practice.

I've always been an outsider. The insiders wouldn't ever let someone like me into their inner circle. They're pretty smart.

Hatha

[General of Darkness]

Inner circle? I'll say this, most folks that I've met that are inner circle types make even the worst jews blush.

There are people in the world society, that have come to power that represent all the ATHS and IACS, pyschopaths, sociopath, egomaniacs etc. I'm pretty sure I work for one, and will be addressing that tomorrow at my job. These people have no conscience. Their only goal is self gratification. It might be money, power, sex, you name it, they WANT it. These folks have no conception between NEED and WANT. You NEED food, but your WANT desire is very different, and their WANT desire becomes their NEED desire. Very danger folks, and for all intense purposes should be removed from society.

[MAGNES]

I walk through a masonic cemetary and was amazed that supposed Christians at their time of death did not have bible verses, crosses, or anything else linking them to Christ but rather they had the square on their tombstone and other masonic symbolism. The women had pentagrams on their tombstones.


The code reads "for you", easy to decode, notice 666 rosette in middle, 13 rays.

FED Reserve imagery.

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[MAGNES]

I was doing some browsing around and came accross a talk on video by John Salza on freemasonry infiltrating the catholic church. It's long but is very interesting to me. I've also been slowly working my way through the book " The Plot against the Church" that Awoke brought to this forum. This talk on video and the book mentioned seem to be in agreement and are good information to keep in mind when we look around at what is going on in the world today and what has happned in the past. I believe it also speaks to the cause of a lot of conflict that has been taken place on this forum the last few days. I wasn't aware of the conflict that had been taking place here until this morning. I don't know how to imbed this video but I can post the link to it. Since this thread is about the eastern star I believe it is appropriate to post it here.


http://www.fatimachallenge.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63:masonry-unmasked&catid=21&Itemid=15




I listened to that in the background, that is excellent, an ex Mason shows how Masonry in detail mocks
Christianity. And the Catholics knew they were under attack and full of moles, knew it would get worse
for the future.

Must listen, I listened to it in background.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I've been reading the CS Lewis piece The Inner Ring posted by Short John Silver above. This describes the real, operating hierarchy accurately. Strangely, it has an eerie likeness to how world politics work as well. For example, the US Government is something Americans learn about in Civics classes in High School--but it is the formal structure we learn about. What really happens is that it is not really controlled by the designated 'people in power'. They answer to a higher authority--one that is not visible to most of us unless we look real closely.

Most of us common people ignore the evidence we see that our government is not controlled by the people whom we 'elect' by voting. The mainstream media does a good job of not covering that evidence. The MSM now resembles Baghdad Bob's pronouncements in April 2003. But we know, and we deny it because we value our 'status quo'. Acknowledging the real hierarchy controlling everything would require big changes in the way we see the world, and that would be extremely stressful for many of us, so we pretend--for as long as we can. One day it will collapse, and we will have to start believing new lies. We all know that will be stressful. So why bring it on sooner?

As our infrastructure deteriorates, so do the lies we believe that hold everything up. I'm beginning to think that The Order of the Eastern Star, like the Freemasons is an organization that promotes the lies, and provides comfort to the liars--like a mutual admiration society exists to provide its members feedback on how great they think they are. Sort of like a distorted, fun-house mirror.

Hatha

[Awoke]

Eastern Star is satanic.

Just because so-and-so's SIL and MIL don't worship satan or go to meeting doesn't change the reality of it.
The members level of knowledge is limited to their involvement in the society. In the female society, only those of the highest rank know the truth, and in the end they find out that the entire society is actually just a scam. I'll explain this later.

When I get time I will post some quotes from Adam Weishaupt in regards to the formation of th female leg of the masons, and the purpose it is to serve. I'm at work, and my book is at home.
(Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison, circa 1700's)

[SLV^GLD]

For the record, I was offering a personally intimate anecdote to the existence of this organization and its affiliation with Freemasonry. As far as I have seen in this thread no one else has even approximated such a relationship. Within my anecdote I even expressed the fact that it may well be bigger and badder than what I have seen but that membership alone is no scarlet letter.

You can call me SLV>GLD as I don't particularly care to be marginalized with the generic term "so-and-so".

[Awoke]

For the record, I was offering a personally intimate anecdote to the existence of this organization and its affiliation with Freemasonry. As far as I have seen in this thread no one else has even approximated such a relationship.


I understand what you were saying. I'm saying that their experience and testimony doesn't change the fact that the eastern star is a satanic group.



You can call me SLV>GLD as I don't particularly care to be marginalized with the generic term "so-and-so".


No offence was intended, I was under time constraints and just typed that up quickly.
Sorry about that.

[Tumbleweed]

MAGNES I'm going to post another link to that site of a video that is very disturbing. It is a talk by Father Paul Kramer on the take over of key positions of power in the catholic church by masons. This take over was the third prophesy of Our Lady of Fatima and concerns the take over of the church by masonry, one world religion and the NWO. It I believe is also a must listen video too. It's about sixty five minutes.


http://www.fatimachallenge.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69:what-are-the-contents-of-the-missing-third-secret-text&catid=26

[dysgenic]

The way that Satanism works is to gradually but progressively debase and defile the target. A typical progression works like this:

rejection, despair, rebellion, (these are the doorways that often make an individual vulnerable to choosing an organization like Eastern Star)
DECEPTION, error/sin, defilement... after that it's downhill fast.

Other doorways can be serious illness, psychological trauma, physical trauma. Most people vulnerable to satanic deception have experienced some of these things.
The deceptions are always calculated and clever. Most people would be surprised to know that these deceptions often glorify God at the beginning, and I've even seen them glorify Jesus. BUT they will lie about the character of God and/or Jesus... it will be tweaked ever so slightly from who they really are. That's the beginning. Over time, distortions and perversions of morality are introduced subtly as important doctrine. As the target begins to engage in the behaviours that the teaching subtly encourages, the distortions and perversions become more pronounced over time.

dys

[RJB]

Other doorways can be serious illness, psychological trauma, physical trauma. Most people vulnerable to satanic deception have experienced some of these things. dysCould you go further into this or link please? This really caught my attention. Is it the reaction to the trauma that sets people on the path or is it an attack? Thanks.

[dysgenic]

In my opinion it's both. The reaction: for example, a young woman falls in love and gets married, but her husband meets someone else and dumps her. This could cause what is commonly known as a 'broken heart'. In the satantic and christian circles, the person is said to experience 'fragmentation'. What this means is that parts of the persons soul (or personality, makeup, whatever term you prefer) literally break off of them in the sense that they become locked, unavailable, dormant. This is supposedly as a defense mechanism in order to cushion the trauma; a quarantine if you will. So this lack of spiritual wholeness supposedly leads to suggestive vulnerability. By the way, a broken heart is a very common doorway. On the physical side, same thing. The trauma of facing death causes a terror so intense that it literally fragments the soul.
As for attacks, we are venturing into religious territory so stop now if you don't want to read this sort of thing. I believe that weakened emotional and physical states lead to negative demonic attention. This attention is aimed to subtly steer people into satanism. Regardless if you believe this or not, the satanic strategy is to go after the weak, the sick, and the vulnerable. Somehow, the satanic groups and people associated with these groups are attracted to those that have experienced emotional and/or physical trauma.
That's the short answer.

dys










Other doorways can be serious illness, psychological trauma, physical trauma. Most people vulnerable to satanic deception have experienced some of these things. dysCould you go further into this or link please? This really caught my attention. Is it the reaction to the trauma that sets people on the path or is it an attack? Thanks.

[Book]

Somehow, the satanic groups and people associated with these groups are attracted to those that have experienced emotional and/or physical trauma.



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Ever notice how the Fallen themselves are always looking for naive innocent fresh meat to defile? Regulars at any bar during "Happy Hour" always swing their head around to look when the entry door opens.

:D

[zap]

When you are hardheaded, and have 1/2 a brain they can't touch you.

I think alot of them are weak minded too.

[RJB]

As for attacks, we are venturing into religious territory so stop now if you don't want to read this sort of thing. I believe that weakened emotional and physical states lead to negative demonic attention.dys
It would be worth another thread. I work with patients with deep seated maladies like cancer and fibromyalgia. Not all, but a good portion are afflicted with a bitterness that they cling too. I've heard a lot of women state that the fibromyalgia "started around the divorce."

I've been aware that pain causes emotional disturbances, and emotional disturbances can cause physical pain, but I've barely considered the spiritual aspect. Again, thank you.

[Awoke]

Fantastic posts, Dysgenic.

I value your membership here.

[ShortJohnSilver]

As for attacks, we are venturing into religious territory so stop now if you don't want to read this sort of thing. I believe that weakened emotional and physical states lead to negative demonic attention.dys
It would be worth another thread. I work with patients with deep seated maladies like cancer and fibromyalgia. Not all, but a good portion are afflicted with a bitterness that they cling too. I've heard a lot of women state that the fibromyalgia "started around the divorce."

I've been aware that pain causes emotional disturbances, and emotional disturbances can cause physical pain, but I've barely considered the spiritual aspect. Again, thank you.


I would be extremely interested in your views on this, especially about fibro. My wife has it, and yes, she does harbor some deep seated bitterness towards certain family members, and holds grudges a little too much.

One of my cousins has a wife who also has fibro, and she is bitter about not being able to have any children, despite trying for many years; she is now in late 40s and can no longer try.

[SLV^GLD]

Fantastic posts, Dysgenic.

I value your membership here.
Agreed. It's like one of those things that you've always seen and understood on a visceral level but having it stated in such a fashion brings it to a more conscious state for better scrutiny. This has been one of the better observations brought to light in a while, for me.

[dysgenic]

Bitterness and unforgiveness are major red flag doorways. These things tend to lead to rebellion (the definition of 'rebellion' in this context is worthy of another thread). Once the target progresses to the rebellion stage, this is when the Eastern Stars of this world come a calling. As an aside, joint problems like arthritis, back problems, and fibromyalgia seem to be associated with bitterness.

dys






As for attacks, we are venturing into religious territory so stop now if you don't want to read this sort of thing. I believe that weakened emotional and physical states lead to negative demonic attention.dys
It would be worth another thread. I work with patients with deep seated maladies like cancer and fibromyalgia. Not all, but a good portion are afflicted with a bitterness that they cling too. I've heard a lot of women state that the fibromyalgia "started around the divorce."

I've been aware that pain causes emotional disturbances, and emotional disturbances can cause physical pain, but I've barely considered the spiritual aspect. Again, thank you.


I would be extremely interested in your views on this, especially about fibro. My wife has it, and yes, she does harbor some deep seated bitterness towards certain family members, and holds grudges a little too much.

One of my cousins has a wife who also has fibro, and she is bitter about not being able to have any children, despite trying for many years; she is now in late 40s and can no longer try.