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DMac
15th September 2010, 01:59 PM
US/NATO takes one on the chin.

The Al Qaeda threat is "exaggerated": 120,000 US Troops fighting "No More that 50 Members of Al Qaeda" (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21059)


The London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), is the world’s leading think tank for military affairs. It represents the top echelon of defence experts, retired officers and senior military men, spanning the globe from the United States and Britain to China, Russia and India.

I’ve been an IISS member for over 20 years. IISS’s reports are always authoritative but usually cautious and diplomatic, sometimes dull. However, two weeks ago the IISS issued an explosive report on Afghanistan that is shaking Washington and its Nato allies.

The report, presided over by the former deputy director of Britain’s foreign intelligence agency, MI-6, says the threat from al-Qaeda and Taliban has been "exaggerated" by the western powers. The US-led mission in Afghanistan has "ballooned" out of all proportion from its original aim of disrupting and defeating al-Qaeda. The US-led war in Afghanistan, says IISS, using uncharacteristically blunt language, is "a long-drawn-out disaster".

Just recently, CIA chief Leon Panetta admitted there were no more than 50 members of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Yet US President Barack Obama has tripled the number of US soldiers there to 120,000 to fight Al Qaeda.

The IISS report goes on to acknowledge the presence of western troops in Afghanistan is actually fuelling national resistance. I saw the same phenomena during the 1980’s Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

Interestingly, the portion of the report overseen by the former MI-6 Secret Intelligence Service deputy chief, Nigel Inskster, finds little Al Qaeda threat elsewhere, notably in Somalia and Yemen. Yet Washington is beefing up its attacks on both turbulent nations.

Abandoning its usual discretion, IISS said it was issuing these warnings because the deepening war in Afghanistan was threatening the west’s security interests by distracting its leaders from the world financial crisis and Iran, and burning through scarce funds needed elsewhere.

The IISS’s findings are a direct challenge to Obama, Britain’s new prime minister, David Cameron, and other US allies with troops in Afghanistan. This report undermines their rational used to sustain the increasingly unpopular conflict. It will certainly convince sceptics that the real reason for occupation of Afghanistan has to do with oil, excluding China from the region, and keeping watch on nuclear-armed Pakistan.

The report also goes on to propose an exit strategy from the Afghan War. Western occupation troops, IISS proposes, should be sharply reduced and confined to Kabul and northern Afghanistan, which is mostly ethnic Tajik and Uzbek.

Southern Afghanistan – Taliban country – should be vacated by Western forces and left alone. Taliban would be allowed to govern its own half of the nation until some sort of loose, decentralised federal system can be implemented. This was, in fact, pretty much the way Afghanistan operated before the 1979 Soviet invasion.

Meanwhile, the war in Afghanistan is turning against the increasingly wobbly western occupation forces. The US-installed Afghan leader, Hamid Karzai, openly prepares for direct peace talks with Taliban and its allies – in spite of intense opposition from the US, Britain and Canada.

Pro-government Afghan forces are increasingly demoralised. Only the Tajik and Uzbek militias, and Afghan Communist Party, both supported by India, Russia and Iran, want to keep fighting the Pashtun Taliban.

Taliban leader Mullah Omar last week proclaimed the western occupiers were rapidly losing the war. He may well be correct. Nothing is going right for the US-backed Kabul regime or its western defenders. Even the much-ballyhooed US offensive at Marjah, designed to smash Taliban resistance, was an embarrassing fiasco. Civilian casualties from US bombing continue to mount.

Europeans are fed up with the Afghan war. Polls report 60% of Americans think the war not worth fighting.

The IISS bombshell comes on the heels of the most dramatic part of the British Chilcot Inquiry into the origins of the invasion of Iraq. Baroness Manningham-Buller the former head of Britain’s domestic security service, MI-5, testified that the Iraq War was generated by a farrago of lies and faked evidence from the Blair government. What we call "terrorism" is largely caused by the western invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, she testified.

The truth about Iraq and Afghanistan is finally emerging.

Afghanistan may again prove to be "the graveyard of empires".

Eric S. Margolis is a contributing editor to the Toronto Sun chain of newspapers, writing mainly about the Middle East and South Asia.

Ponce
15th September 2010, 03:19 PM
What we call "terrorism" is largely caused by the western invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, she testified.

And the way that I would expect for the Americans to act if we are ever invaded.....or fight the mercs that we will have in this land.

Mouse
15th September 2010, 05:03 PM
The reason for Afghanistan is to get the Northern Distribution Network in place, provide infrastructure projects with capital, and export technology to develop the region for the banksters to outsource and gain financial control. The oil is also nice.

Glass
15th September 2010, 05:58 PM
So who exactly is the IISS? It appears from their web site that they are:



an international membership organisation based in London, and is both a limited company in UK law and a registered charity. It has offices in the US and in Singapore that operate under its name with charitable status in each jurisdiction. Founded in 1958, much of the Institute’s early work focused on nuclear deterrence and arms control, and the Institute was influential in setting the intellectual structures for managing the Cold War. Over the last decade the IISS has become a truly global organisation, with individual and corporate members in over one hundred countries.

The Institute’s high-profile publications are universally regarded as providing the best independent, internationally sourced information and commentary on the main strategic events touching on national, regional and global security. The IISS owes no allegiance to any government, or to any political or other organisation. The Institute's conference activities are considered to be at the forefront of public policy development, given that its convening power is such that it can often bring government officials and others together in forum that they could not easily manage for themselves.


According to them they were establised by
by a number of individuals interested in how to maintain civilised international relations in the nuclear age
link (http://www.iiss.org/about-us/)

In 2008 they opened an Asia office Link (http://www.iiss.org/conferences/korea-forum/)

In 2010 - Sept 13 they opened an office in Bahrain. Link (http://www.iiss.org/middle-east/)

On Sept 8 2010 IISS Director John Chipman was reported as saying:
John Chipman, the IISS director, said NATO forces had already achieved the main point for being in Afghanistan which was to stop the country from being a base for Osama bin Laden and al -Qaeda

Full article


The UK government military advisors have published a blueprint for pulling British troops out of Afghanistan.

In its four point plan, the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) suggested that Britain should commit itself to a more low key policy of “containment and deterrence” in Afghanistan, the daily Standard reported on Wednesday.

John Chipman, the IISS director, said NATO forces had already achieved the main point for being in Afghanistan which was to stop the country from being a base for Osama bin Laden and al -Qaeda.

The plan also envisages that, Afghanistan “would become a loosely federated state in which power would go to the provinces and regions”, who would rule almost independently.

The British Cabinet insiders confirmed that government defense chiefs have been mulling over the IISS plan as they are increasingly annoyed with reports of corruption among Afghan government officials.

However, the possibility of a swift change of course in the war-torn country in being ruled out.

Some military chiefs have suggested that David Cameron could seek to bring forward the withdrawal of British combat troops from 2015 to 2012, and that he wants a major cut in UK forces by next year. But a Whitehall source cast doubt on the feasibility of even the 2015 deadline.

The institute plan raises prospects of a partitioned Afghanistan, which could become one of the world's biggest drug states.

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So now I am confused. Is Osama in there? Is he not worth 10,000 normal al Qeada's?

Well we all know the answer to that. It does seem that the IISS has been very busy setting up new outlets around the planet.

Also. I can't find IISS report the article referred to in the OP. I have heard that 50 number before but I haven't seen it "officially" said.

Ponce
15th September 2010, 06:22 PM
Glass? crap is crap no matter how you wrap it.......everything that's going on is for the benefit of those who control the government, and we know who controls them.

k-os
15th September 2010, 06:28 PM
We're not there for Osama Bin Laden, or Al Qaeda and probably never have been.

We're there for the drugs, and the multinational corporate thuggery.

And as Mouse pointed out, the oil is also nice.

Book
15th September 2010, 06:34 PM
We're there for the drugs, and the multinational corporate thuggery.



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Help me find the poppy I dropped Sarge!

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Glass
15th September 2010, 08:02 PM
Well yeah. I was just pointing out it is another think tank group making decisions which governments rubber stamp as their own policy. The opening of offices in Asia and the Middle East in the last 2 years confirms where the focus has shifted.

Still don't see that article. That claim about the al Qeada is "years" old now and I still haven't seen it in black and white. Does anyone have a link to the report?

Not saying I believe it because I know the only al Qeada there is CIA operatives. I know its about drugs and oil.

I notice in my country the Police/Government advertise when they have a new batch of heroin hitting the streets. This morning they even announced where to go to buy it. They know how much there is, where is was delivered and who has it. Seems very strange to me. link (http://www.theage.com.au/national/bikie-heroin-to-flood-streets-20100915-15cpa.html)

k-os
15th September 2010, 08:20 PM
I notice in my country the Police/Government advertise when they have a new batch of heroin hitting the streets. This morning they even announced where to go to buy it. They know how much there is, where is was delivered and who has it. Seems very strange to me. link (http://www.theage.com.au/national/bikie-heroin-to-flood-streets-20100915-15cpa.html)


Free advertising!

Glass
16th September 2010, 01:41 AM
OK here's a Find. Robert Blackwill from the IISS.


There are at most 100 al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan


Under my plan the sky will be dark with Predators

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBJGiHMMAzo

Both of those quotes are near the end of the interview. 10 minutes total.

DMac
16th September 2010, 07:39 AM
Thanks for doing some digging on this Glass!