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Ares
16th September 2010, 08:56 AM
may change the way the First Amendment applies in the United States.

Justice Breyer Suggests That Burning a Quran Could be Like Shouting 'Fire' in a Crowded Theatre--Thus Not Protected by 1st Amendment
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
By Chris Neefus

(CNSNews.com) – Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer said on Tuesday that globalization may change the way the First Amendment applies in the United States, and he suggested that Pastor Terry Jones’ proposed Quran-burning may or may not be protected under the First Amendment.

Breyer -- appearing on ABC’s “Good Morning America” to promote his book “Making Our Democracy Work” -- made the comments to anchor George Stephanopoulos.

Stephanopoulos was a senior adviser to President Bill Clinton when Breyer was elevated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1994. The ABC anchorman asked the justice to explain whether globalization, and Jones’s ability to broadcast his actions, poses “a challenge” to the First Amendment.

“[W]hen we spoke several years ago, you talked about how the process of globalization was changing our understanding of the law,” Stephanopoulos began. “When you think about the Internet and when you think about the possibility that, you know, a pastor in Florida with a flock of 30 can threaten to burn the Quran, and that leads to riots and killings in Afghanistan, does that pose a challenge to the First Amendment—to how you interpret it? Does it change the nature of…what we can allow and protect?”

“Well, in a sense, yes; in a sense, no,” Breyer replied. “People can express their views in debate, no matter how awful those views are -- in debate, a conversation, people exchanging ideas. That’s the model so that, in fact, we are better informed when we cast that ballot.”

While the “core values remain,” Breyer continued, “how they apply can change” over time, he suggested.

Breyer pointed to Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes’ opinion in a 1919 case testing the limits of First Amendment protection. Holmes argued that shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater would not be protected speech because people could be trampled in the rush to escape a burning theater.

“And what is the crowded theater today?” Breyer asked. “What is being trampled to death?”

On Tuesday morning, Breyer said any new interpretation of the First Amendment and the “crowded theater” benchmark will be decided over time through jurisprudence.

“Yes, well perhaps that will be answered by—if it’s answered by our court, it will be answered over time in a series of cases, which force people to think carefully. That’s the virtue of cases,” he said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75333

Book
16th September 2010, 09:03 AM
FIGHTING WORDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words) not crowded theater...lol.

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United States

The fighting words doctrine, in United States constitutional law, is a limitation to freedom of speech as protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. In its 9-0 decision, Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942), the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine and held that "insulting or 'fighting words,' those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace" are among the "well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech [which] the prevention and punishment of...have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem."

undgrd
16th September 2010, 09:06 AM
So in the future, my rights could be violated because of the irrational reaction by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, at ANYTIME?

Jazkal
16th September 2010, 09:11 AM
This is more a property rights issue than a free speech issue, IMO.

If I own a book, which is private property. Then I can do whatever I want to, to that property. I can burn it, s**t on it, drive a car over it, what ever the f**k I want to do with it. Because it is my property, period.

Now, I may not be allowed to do all those things in all public places.

Now, if the Gov't wants to argue that I don't really own the book, then that is a legal issue of property rights, not free speech.

Glass
16th September 2010, 09:12 AM
There's that word again. Democracy. Since when was America one of those?

Pre crime seems to be the way things will go. But how does burning a book equate to causing a stampede. Does anyone notice the cattle euphemisms in the way these people talk?

Ahhh there we go

So in the future, my rights could be violated because of the irrational reaction by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, at ANYTIME?

Democracy is mob rule.

RJB
16th September 2010, 09:20 AM
Democracy is mob rule.
Well, the bankster mob rules us. :D

Heimdhal
16th September 2010, 10:19 AM
This is also the guy that said that the DC handgun bans didnt violate the 2nd Amendment and he still strongly supports that position (even though he was in the minority on that ruling)

Apparition
16th September 2010, 11:50 AM
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

- Benjamin Franklin