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Ares
17th September 2010, 12:35 PM
Highly evolved extra terrestrial lifeforms may be living in space and would be welcomed into the church - "no matter how many tentacles", one of the Pope's astronomers has said.

The senior Vatican scientist, Brother Guy Consolmagno, said that he would be delighted if we encountered intelligent aliens and would be happy to baptise them.

His pronouncement opens up the possibility of space missionaries heading out to the stars to convert aliens to Christianity.

Speaking on the eve of addressing the British Science Festival, Dr Consolmangno said he had no problem with science and religion co-existing together.

But he dismissed Creationism and claimed that the revival of “intelligent design" – the controversial theory that only God can explain gaps in the theory of evolution – was “bad theology".

Dr Consolmango is one of a team of 12 astronomers working for the Vatican, said the Catholic Church had been supporting and funding science for centuries.

He said he was "comfortable" with the idea of alien life and asked if he would baptise an alien, he replied "Only if they asked".

"I’d be delighted if we found life elsewhere and delighted if we found intelligent life elsewhere," he said.

“But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it - when you add them up it’s probably not a practical question.

“God is bigger than just humanity. God is also the god of angels.”

He said the characteristics synonymous with having a soul - intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions may not be unique to humans.

“Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has has a soul,’ he said.

However machines were unlikely to be smart or human-enough to have souls.

Dr Consolmango, 57, the curator of the Pope's meteorite collection, is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican’s observatory.

He worked as a scientist in California for 15 years before turning to the church.

He said "intelligent design" had been "hijacked" by religious fundamentalists.

"The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of Creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it did not originally mean at all.

"It’s another form of the God of the gaps," he said.

'It’s bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning.’

The phrase 'Intelligent Design' was centuries old and described the idea that God could be discovered in the laws of space and time and the existence of human reason..

The Vatican was 'very aware' of what was going on in the world of science, he added.

The Pontifical Academy of Science, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, kept the senior cardinals and the Pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments, he said.

The discovery of aliens would raise huge theological problems for the Roman Catholic church that would make the debate over women priests, clerical abstinence and contraception pale into insignificance.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/8009299/Pope-Benedict-XVIs-astronomer-the-Catholic-Church-welcomes-aliens.html

StreetsOfGold
17th September 2010, 01:00 PM
The Cat-licking church is the MOTHER of harlots and will be unquestionable involved in the alien abduction "EXCUSE" for all the Christians that get called out and THEY remain behind.

Twisted Titan
17th September 2010, 01:51 PM
They alein angle is going to get played and the Church is making sure it hedged it bets

So when the ET's "magically" show up they wont lose their monopoly on the local sheep.

Question:

How many people knew that the Vatican Church had a cheif astronomer??

If You study stars you're "trafficking with the devil"

When They study stars and they're "observing the magnificence of God in the heavens"


See how that works???


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Saul Mine
18th September 2010, 06:08 AM
Yawn. The Catholic Church would baptize the devil if he would make a donation. They have a very long reputation for doing exactly that. That is what the Protestants were protesting.

uranian
18th September 2010, 06:22 AM
that's about the third such announcement from the vatican this year. last i heard it was just us puny earthlings that suffered from the whole original sin problem, saith the vatican. i've yet to see any similar announcements coming out of the muslim world.

in interesting related news, the ET DNA of the starchild skull is due to go public by the end of the year in the MSM. the caretaker is just about to go on a european tour to have one last go at getting funding to allow them to sequence the entire genome. if that fails, the plan is just to release the extant data (1% of the genome, including 100s of base pairs never seen in any terrestrial species) to the MSM.

i hear the bookies are reducing odds lately about disclosure. it does look like we're gearing up for it, though the form it'll take is anyone's guess.

edited to add this (http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/ufos_disney_alien_encounters_video), a 1995 disney documentary that presents the ET idea as if it were real, here and now.

Awoke
18th September 2010, 09:09 AM
Yawn. The Catholic Church would baptize the devil if he would make a donation. They have a very long reputation for doing exactly that. That is what the Protestants were protesting.


Not exactly. There was more to it that that, but when Luther made the split, he had a council of 10 advisors, and 8 were jewish.
Just saying.

You guys, bashing the Church and acting like it's actually "Christians" that are plotting to cover their asses and make money or whatever, and have repeatedly told you all that they Church is infiltrated.



you don't have to be a Catholic to understand the significance of a Catholic Church that has been infiltrated by Crypto Jews

LuckyStrike
18th September 2010, 09:17 AM
Catholicism means universal so I see no reason why they wouldn't take space aliens. Just because they take them in sure doesn't mean Yahweh will.

keehah
18th September 2010, 09:26 AM
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

Just the fairy tale updated for today's science now with more planets and your subjugation to priestly DNA rather than schizophrenic or dissociative identity disorder bloodlines and long forgotten thunderbolts.

LuckyStrike
18th September 2010, 09:28 AM
Not exactly. There was more to it that that, but when Luther made the split, he had a council of 10 advisors, and 8 were jewish.
Just saying.




I haven't heard this your saying Luther was surrounded by Jewish advisers? I know the reason he saw the Truth later in his life was because he tried to convert them and found out it wasn't possible.


"Know, O adored Christ, and make no mistake, that aside from the Devil, you have no enemy more venomous, more desperate, more bitter, than a true Jew ... let their synagogues be burned, their books confiscated, that they be forbidden to pray to God in their own way, and that they be made to work with their hands, or, better still, that the princes expel them from their lands, and that the authorities -- magistrates as well as clergy -- unite toward these ends."

"There is no other explanation for this than the one cited earlier from Moses, namely, that God has
struck them with "madness and blindness and confusion of mind." So we are even at fault in not
avenging all this innocent blood of our Lord and of the Christians which they shed for three
hundred years after the destruction of Jerusalem, and the blood of the children they have shed
since then (which still shines forth from their eyes and their skin). We are at fault in not slaying
them. Rather we allow them to live freely in our midst despite an their murdering, cursing,
blaspheming, lying, and defaming; we protect and shield their synagogues, houses, life, and
property In this way we make them lazy and secure and encourage them to fleece us boldly of our
money and goods, as well as to mock and deride us, with a view to finally overcoming us, killing
us all for such a great sin, and robbing us of all our property (as they daily pray and hope). Now
tell me whether they do not have every reason to be the enemies of us accursed Goyim, to curse
us and to strive for our final, complete, and eternal ruin!"

Awoke
18th September 2010, 09:47 AM
See my post here, regarding Luther and the jews.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/crypto-jewry-in-the-catholic-church/msg86200/#msg86200



The details of his jewish council that lead him to give birth to the schism can be read in "The plot against the Church" by Pinay, which has been linked countless times.