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Ares
19th September 2010, 11:43 AM
As a result of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) mandate, beginning November 1, all passengers will be required to have Secure Flight Passenger Data (SFPD) in their reservation at least 72 hours prior to departure. This is the next phase in a program that was initiated by the TSA in 2009.

In compliance with this mandate you will be required to provide Secure Flight Passenger Data:

* To purchase any ticket on or after September 15, 2010
* To travel November 1, 2010, or later regardless of purchase date

You will be unable to travel without providing the following information.

* Full Name (first, middle and last name, as it appears on the non-expired government-issued photo ID that you will use when traveling)
* Date of Birth
* Gender
* Redress Number (if applicable)
You will need to provide Secure Flight Passenger Data:

* If it was not provided when you made your reservation
* For reservations made prior to adding SFPD to your AAdvantage account profile
* For all future reservations

By adding Secure Flight Passenger Data to your AAdvantage account profile, we'll add the SFPD automatically when you make reservations through American Airlinesâ€Â* in the future. You can follow the steps below to add SFPD to existing reservations.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/secureFlight.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=secureflight

uranian
19th September 2010, 11:53 AM
getting to be so obvious that the below image will become outmoded pretty soon:

http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/fascism-obvious.jpg

i can't believe we're too far from open revolt by the masses with this kind of thing going on.

Ares
19th September 2010, 12:01 PM
But but but Uranian if I give up a little bit of my liberty I'll be safe when I fly..

:sarc:

palani
19th September 2010, 12:15 PM
49 CFR 1560.3
Verifying Identity Document means one of the following documents:

(1) An unexpired passport issued by a foreign government.

(2) An unexpired document issued by a U.S. Federal, State, or tribal government that includes the following information for the individual:

(i) Full name.

(ii) Date of birth.

(iii) Photograph.

(3) Such other documents that TSA may designate as valid verifying identity documents.

Not even Law. Just REGULATION.

I believe if I were to be employed by the federal government so that they issued me an ID then I might also ask for a PAYCHECK!!!!

Mouse
19th September 2010, 12:17 PM
I got that email from murican airlines the other day. I can't imagine how they think they are going to enforce that a reservation must have your "data" 72 hours in advance. There are thousands of people every day that wake up and get a phone call "we need you to go to "blank" right away" and just make a call or get on the internet and go to the airport. Or people that are on business somewhere and finish up early and decide to leave, or get a call that they need to add another stop to their trip. This appears to be a ban on any airline travel that is not planned at least 72 hours in advance, and I can guarantee you, if that's what this is, it will destroy the airlines.

I have flown millions of miles and I HATE FLYING since 911 and all this bull shit. I hope to get a job that doesn't require any flying someday.

Light
19th September 2010, 12:52 PM
I would guess that this is a warning that your data needs to be on file if you expect to fly on short notice.

mrnhtbr2232
19th September 2010, 12:59 PM
Why not - make the hassle of flying so bad it will make moms with kids going to see family feel like astronauts getting ready for a shuttle mission. I swear, the management around here couldn't get more bone-headed. How long before Amtrak and Greyhound need 72 hours advance notice? Will we need 72 hours advanced notice to drive across state lines? When does it end? I'll say this - I've got to hand it to them for their continuing long-term conditioning of the population.

Hatha Sunahara
19th September 2010, 01:31 PM
This is what I imagined the Soviet Union was like. Looks like I won't have to imagine any longer.

Hatha

gunDriller
19th September 2010, 01:44 PM
This is what I imagined the Soviet Union was like. Looks like I won't have to imagine any longer.

Hatha


i think at this point the US has exceeded many of the excesses of Soviet Russia.

travelling by car or motorhome in the US isn't that bad. as long as gas is $3 a gallon.

uranian
19th September 2010, 01:59 PM
are you guys in the US allowed to take liquids on to planes? even since the "liquid bomb threat", we europeans have suffered not being allowed to take more than 100ml of liquid on to any plane, and that has to be stored in a special clear plastic bag in your hand luggage. the guys who have the franchise to sell the plastic bags just by security must be making a killing! the greatest lulz for me in the whole thing is that in the early days after that, the solution to the potential problem was to take all the liquids, mix them in a giant vat in the middle of the airport and presto! problem solved.

Fortyone
19th September 2010, 02:02 PM
This is what I imagined the Soviet Union was like. Looks like I won't have to imagine any longer.

Hatha


i think at this point the US has exceeded many of the excesses of Soviet Russia.

travelling by car or motorhome in the US isn't that bad. as long as gas is $3 a gallon.


I take the train. virtually no hassles at the stations,a little slower but yet good enough for my needs. Then again I dont travel much anyway.

Dogman
19th September 2010, 02:02 PM
are you guys in the US allowed to take liquids on to planes? even since the "liquid bomb threat", we europeans have suffered not being allowed to take more than 100ml of liquid on to any plane, and that has to be stored in a special clear plastic bag in your hand luggage. the guys who have the franchise to sell the plastic bags just by security must be making a killing! the greatest lulz for me in the whole thing is that in the early days after that, the solution to the potential problem was to take all the liquids, mix them in a giant vat in the middle of the airport and presto! problem solved.


Same here as there.

Fortyone
19th September 2010, 02:03 PM
What a mess. The Airline corps. are already having trouble getting people on planes and now this? I'm sure the populace will comply without hesitation though. Just another minor inconvenience all in the name of national security :puke


Everyone complains about Amtrak being subsidised,The Airlines already are,Its just hidden,they wont make a peep.

Dogman
19th September 2010, 02:06 PM
I would love to meet the creep that works to make a terrible thing worse.
Flying is a pita and they want to make it more so...Bastards!

EE_
19th September 2010, 02:22 PM
I think it is a great idea to bog the system down more, but couldn't they at least have offered a chip implant to allow quicker access?

Mill Man
19th September 2010, 03:24 PM
I know someone who flew out of NY on 9-12-10 who got a pocket knife with a 3" blade on the plane in his carry on. Now, his buddy with the hair gel wasn't so lucky.

AndreaGail
19th September 2010, 03:57 PM
i've only flown 3 or 4 times since 9/11 and everytime the experience has been worse (flying from dia)

etc
19th September 2010, 11:42 PM
Right on about worse than the soviet union..

The straightjacket tightens.

Horn
20th September 2010, 12:11 AM
Did ya ever see these folks who go thru the TSA booths in their pajamas & slippers? :oo-->

Makes me wonder if I could slip thru in only my boxers sometimes?

Gaillo
20th September 2010, 01:45 AM
Did ya ever see these folks who go thru the TSA booths in their pajamas & slippers? :oo-->

Makes me wonder if I could slip thru in only my boxers sometimes?


Apparently you haven't heard about the NEW TSA regulations? ;D

dysgenic
20th September 2010, 02:11 AM
Doublethink is alive and well.
Said the sheeple: "If it keeps me safe..."
Said the same sheeple: "Keep government out of health care. I don't trust those bastards."

dys