STATUS OF GSUS

[JohnQPublic]

One of the posts lost last night was my post regarding moving to another server. I asked for techncially inclined volunteers to help find the right place to go. Playwithfire proposed a VB specialist host, and I have asked for a quotation from them to host GSUS. I would probably have them convert our forum to VB if we chose to go VB, then have them host it. I lost the PM, so I cannot post the URL right now.

I am on board with finding a better solution than we now have.

For the moment I want to be sure we get a good back-up of the database. I will post more info. a little later today.

[JohnQPublic]

Here is the VB hosting specialist:

http://www.urljet.com/

[the riot act]

John, the software has a built in database backup feature. First you put the forum in Maintenance mode. That keeps anyone from posting like Dmac said. Do the down;load to YOUR computer. Never depend on the host to do backups.

I have sent you information on this a while ago.

[DMac]

JPQ,

I don't have the bandwidth to volunteer for a migration project to bring GSUS online with a new host. I will do my best to help with any advice or questions as time permits.

In a nutshell, everything you want to be done, can be done. Existing URL can be configured for redirects to new site, you can migrate the SMF to VB. Virtual is probably your only option and would work fine.

[JohnQPublic]

John, the software has a built in database backup feature. First you put the forum in Maintenance mode. That keeps anyone from posting like Dmac said. Do the down;load to YOUR computer. Never depend on the host to do backups.

I have sent you information on this a while ago.


The database has gotten too big for that. I have not been able to back-up via the built in SMF facility for a couple of months.

[the riot act]

John, the software has a built in database backup feature. First you put the forum in Maintenance mode. That keeps anyone from posting like Dmac said. Do the down;load to YOUR computer. Never depend on the host to do backups.

I have sent you information on this a while ago.


The database has gotten too big for that. I have not been able to back-up via the built in SMF facility for a couple of months.


Well then switch software. I have three sites and all of them except for one has a much larger db being they have been online for over 5 years, and I use that java program that I sent you the link to. I back them up every 4 hours.

Take DMac's advice..

Then the paranoids here won't have me to kick around any longer.

[platinumdude]

I don't really see a lot of users viewing this board, is a dedicated server really needed? Maybe hiring an expert temporarily to examine the problems and find a cheaper solution to the problems this board is having. Just a thought.

[Playswithfire]

I don't think it needs a dedicated server. My forum has almost 3000 members and I'm not on a dedicated server and we aren't having any problems.

[JohnQPublic]

I agree, we may not need a dedicated server. The issue now is that the SQL database resides on a different server than the forum, and I suspect the interface may not be good. I titled this dedicated server beacuse that is what my [lost] thread from last night talked about. With a dedicated server you have total control, but also a lot more maintanence issues.

[JohnQPublic]

Well GoDaddy has responded. Not very helpful:

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for contacting Hosting Support. Regarding hosting account -------, I understand that you are not able to backup your database through our Hosting Control Center. We have reviewed the database size and see that it is 1GB, we would recommend reducing the size of your database as its current size can cause issues with backing it up. Once you reduce the size of the database please attempt to back it up. As a courtesy we have optimized the tables of your database through phpMyAdmin which helps in clearing out any overhead your database tables may have had.

Please contact us if you have any further issues.

Regards,

XXXXXXXX
Hosting Support

I will try and back it up externally. Since it is their server, doing so may not be as direct as I would like. I have asked them for additional help doing so. My response:

Are you saying delete my data?

What options do I have to backing the data up? Can I back it up to my own hard drive?

Telling me to delete my data is an unreasonable response.

Thanks for optimizing the tables.

XXXXXX

[the riot act]

JQ give this a l00k. at the bottom of the page.

http://download.simplemachines.org/?tools

[JohnQPublic]

Thanks ra.

I am working actively with www.urljet.com to get the existing site over to their hosting. We will do a clean install of SMF, and get it going asap. Once we are safely over there, we can investigate migrating to VB.

Keep in mind all that we may lose stuff- smite counts, thanks, etc. The key thing is to get the database over. Once we move to VB, we would also lose stuf, I'm sure, but again, the key thing is to not lose the database (posts, messages, pictures, members, etc.).

Because of the curveball that GoDaddy cannot abck up the database, we may need some special consideration to get it. If the software ra linked to works, great, but GoDaddy may not allow it to work.

I will keep you posted on what the impact will be as we go.

[steyr_m]

I don't think it needs a dedicated server. My forum has almost 3000 members and I'm not on a dedicated server and we aren't having any problems.


I have to agree. While I'm not an IT expert, it seems like the forum software seems unresponsive to commands from my browser. When making a response to a post, I have to hit the "Post" button several times and/or hit the refresh button first on my browser to actually get it to post. It also seems to be worse with my mac than my home Linux box.

[JohnQPublic]

Urljet is proposing a shared account on their system. We can migrate up if needed. Their system is geared towasrds forums, especially VBulletin.

[the riot act]

Because of the curveball that GoDaddy cannot abck up the database, we may need some special consideration to get it. If the software ra linked to works, great, but GoDaddy may not allow it to work.

I will keep you posted on what the impact will be as we go.


That java program installs on YOUR computer. It will (maybe) download the db to your computer.

Cavart: It will put the forum into "Maintenance Mode" while it is working. Now if for some reason smf still balks you can try replacing the *.php files that do the db backup.

Without getting to technical here you can download the 1.1.11 package to your computer. Unzip the zip file and find the file/Sources/ DumpDatabase.php.

FTP up and rename the file DumpDatabase.php to something like DumpDatabase.bak Then upload the one you extracted from the downloaded 1.1.11 package.

It's worth a try. But to all, the forum will be unusable while it is in maintenance mode.

If your home connection is fast enough it should not take more than a half hour to dl 1 gig.

[JohnQPublic]

Update:

I am right now downloading the latest back-up (via ftp) to my computer. It is from this morning, but at least we have it. GoDaddy had to manually transfer it to my account.

The problem we are having is that we are growing to big for the current shared hosting account. The database is getting too big on the shared MySQL server, and this is causing a lot of problems.

My goal is to get this site up and running on urljet soon- maybe this weekend if possible.
GoDaddy says I can call and request a back-up when I am ready to move.

NOTE: There likely will be some down time.
1. I need to get the new forum up and running and we cannot add to the existnig forum durnig this process.
2. I need to change nameservers (telling the registrar where gold-silver.us is hosted. *.us domains take longer than .com/.net, etc.) so it could be a few hours or it could be 12-24 hours (worst case). I will work with urljet to make it the minimum possible.

THIS IS NOT GIM-GIM2

We will move the entire database, and there will be no new registrations, etc.

I will send out emails and PMs in advance and keep you updated here.

Please keep cool through this process. I warned all along that if we move, there would be disruptions. I will do my best to minimize them. Unfortunately, we have no choice but to go through this process.

[General of Darkness]

Thanks for the update.

[uranian]

thanks for attempting to solve the problems. if there's an issue with finances, i'd suggest complete transparency (post whatever bills to the site for all to see), and allow users to donate if they want (again in public...i recall some suggestion that part of GIM's demise was that someone donated a large amount and effectively took over the site that way, so perhaps it might be a good idea also to limit the amount that any one user is allowed to donate).

[crazychicken]

There is a good idea!

I'll say it again--I'm in!

CC





thanks for attempting to solve the problems. if there's an issue with finances, i'd suggest complete transparency (post whatever bills to the site for all to see), and allow users to donate if they want (again in public...i recall some suggestion that part of GIM's demise was that someone donated a large amount and effectively took over the site that way, so perhaps it might be a good idea also to limit the amount that any one user is allowed to donate).

[osoab]

JQP,

Thanks for the updates and the efforts.

Do you plan on sending any email notices to members if any issues arise with the transfer, especially if we get into the 12/24 hr window?

[mamboni]

Update:

I am right now downloading the latest back-up (via ftp) to my computer. It is from this morning, but at least we have it. GoDaddy had to manually transfer it to my account.

The problem we are having is that we are growing to big for the current shared hosting account. The database is getting too big on the shared MySQL server, and this is causing a lot of problems.

My goal is to get this site up and running on urljet soon- maybe this weekend if possible.
GoDaddy says I can call and request a back-up when I am ready to move.

NOTE: There likely will be some down time.
1. I need to get the new forum up and running and we cannot add to the existnig forum durnig this process.
2. I need to change nameservers (telling the registrar where gold-silver.us is hosted. *.us domains take longer than .com/.net, etc.) so it could be a few hours or it could be 12-24 hours (worst case). I will work with urljet to make it the minimum possible.

THIS IS NOT GIM-GIM2

We will move the entire database, and there will be no new registrations, etc.

I will send out emails and PMs in advance and keep you updated here.

Please keep cool through this process. I warned all along that if we move, there would be disruptions. I will do my best to minimize them. Unfortunately, we have no choice but to go through this process.



I believe in the internet. The internet has made my fortune. And I supported GSUS in the American fashion. I gave GSUS good postings but I taught her never to dishonor the goldbugs. She found a "friend," not a goldbug. She shared a thread with him. She stayed out late. I didn't protest. Two months ago he took her for a drive, with another shill. They made her drink koolaid and then they tried to take advantage of her. She resisted. She kept her honor. So they spammed her. Like an animal. When I went to log on her database was broken. Her membership was shattered, held together by PMs. She couldn't even hotlink because of the server. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my internet surfing. A beautiful forum. Now she will never be beautiful again.
:boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo

[sirgonzo420]

Update:

I am right now downloading the latest back-up (via ftp) to my computer. It is from this morning, but at least we have it. GoDaddy had to manually transfer it to my account.

The problem we are having is that we are growing to big for the current shared hosting account. The database is getting too big on the shared MySQL server, and this is causing a lot of problems.

My goal is to get this site up and running on urljet soon- maybe this weekend if possible.
GoDaddy says I can call and request a back-up when I am ready to move.

NOTE: There likely will be some down time.
1. I need to get the new forum up and running and we cannot add to the existnig forum durnig this process.
2. I need to change nameservers (telling the registrar where gold-silver.us is hosted. *.us domains take longer than .com/.net, etc.) so it could be a few hours or it could be 12-24 hours (worst case). I will work with urljet to make it the minimum possible.

THIS IS NOT GIM-GIM2

We will move the entire database, and there will be no new registrations, etc.

I will send out emails and PMs in advance and keep you updated here.

Please keep cool through this process. I warned all along that if we move, there would be disruptions. I will do my best to minimize them. Unfortunately, we have no choice but to go through this process.



I believe in the internet. The internet has made my fortune. And I supported GSUS in the American fashion. I gave GSUS good postings but I taught her never to dishonor the goldbugs. She found a "friend," not a goldbug. She shared a thread with him. She stayed out late. I didn't protest. Two months ago he took her for a drive, with another shill. They made her drink koolaid and then they tried to take advantage of her. She resisted. She kept her honor. So they spammed her. Like an animal. When I went to log on her database was broken. Her membership was shattered, held together by PMs. She couldn't even hotlink because of the server. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my internet surfing. A beautiful forum. Now she will never be beautiful again.
:boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo


What's the matter with you? Is this what you've become, a Hollywood finocchio who cries like a woman? "Oh, what do I do? What do I do?" What is that nonsense? Ridiculous!

[Playswithfire]

I'd like to add a little info here.

Once the forum is moved, everyones IP will need to update their servers to catch up with the move. At least that is what happened when I moved my forum. So, some of you will be able to get to the forum before others, depending on how often your IP updates their servers.

So please don't panic if you're unable to get in right away. If it takes forever, you can do what I did and email your IP and ask them to update. I had members able to get into my forum a couple days ahead of me.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Mamboni -- SACK UP

Here's hoping all goes well with the move.

[JohnQPublic]

Quick note:

I am working to make the transition this weekend.

You may note a new member "urljet". I created an administrator account for our new host so they can get info. that they need for a successful transition.

I will report back when I have more specific info.

A new day is dawning for GSUS!

[Playswithfire]

That's great news JohnQ! I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible. :)

[JohnQPublic]

That's great news JohnQ! I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible. :)


Thanks PWF, and thanks for recommending urljet! :)

[Celtic Rogue]

Thanks for all of your guys hard work and diligence!... and thanks to all that stuck by our home away from home. Just like raising children... anything worthwile takes time, patience and work!

[MAGNES]

The status just improved tremendously and it is faster too.

:ROFL:

[Playswithfire]

The status just improved tremendously and it is faster too.

:ROFL:






It's not faster on my end. :(

[Dogman]

The status just improved tremendously and it is faster too.

:ROFL:






It's not faster on my end. :(



Its a mental thing..Read the posts and frame of mind. ;D

Then review the kids story "The little train that could" and you may understand.


:ROFL:

[JohnQPublic]

Status Update:

We should be transitioning tomorrow night. I would plan to not be on after 8 PM. I will put the forum into maintenance mode, then get the final copy of the database. Urljet will upload it to the already functioning forum on their site (I saw it- it looks good).

I will change the nameservers, and in a while this forum will be inaccessible. Once the nameservers propogate, it will be active on the other end. I will send out a newsletter (email and PM) announcing it before it starts.

[platinumdude]

Is it all moved over now?

[osoab]

Is it all moved over now?


if we are up, a whole lot of posts and threads are missing from yesterday

[zap]

iTS PRETTY QUICK FOR ME !

edit just tried to post this and couldn't get back on.

[Dogman]

Thought we were going to change from smf to vb. Maybe they found the problem and stayed
Are we on the same server? or have we moved and kept smf? :comp

???????? Full of them?

Good morning All! Good to see we survived (at least to this point!) :sun:


:ROFL:

[Dogman]

The site is Zippy ! See if it stays that way.. ;D

Edit: looks like 6 posts lost this time, not the 25 from the other time the site burped.

[Book]

When I went to log on her database was broken. Her membership was shattered, held together by PMs. She couldn't even hotlink because of the server. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my internet surfing. A beautiful forum. Now she will never be beautiful again.
:boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo



http://www.drug-abuse-facts.com/doctor-depressed-over-loss-of-chronic-drug-abuse-patient.jpg

Jesus. Just because the pharmaceutical salesguy gives you free med samples does not mean you must ingest them all yourself Mamboni.

:oo-->

[Dogman]

When I went to log on her database was broken. Her membership was shattered, held together by PMs. She couldn't even hotlink because of the server. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my internet surfing. A beautiful forum. Now she will never be beautiful again.
:boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo :boohoo



http://www.drug-abuse-facts.com/doctor-depressed-over-loss-of-chronic-drug-abuse-patient.jpg

Jesus. Just because the pharmaceutical salesguy gives you free med samples does not mean you must ingest them all yourself Mamboni.

:oo-->


Yea

But I do bet he has some very good ones hit his desk! :o

[Book]

http://a21.idata.over-blog.com/3/87/78/63/pointing-finger.gif

Everybody's avatar disappeared.

:o

[Horn]

Feels roomy in here, transmissions in good shape too.

[Dogman]

Tried to load a avatar pic , wont let me.


Edit: Sucksess!

[Horn]

Looks like most everything since yesterday lunch got sent to limbo.

[StackerKen]

I figured out a way to add mine :)

[StackerKen]

gsus is listed on godaddy and urljet here

http://www.whois.net/whois/gold-silver.us

I think maybe the move is not complete

[Horn]

I figured out a way to add mine :)


You look like you're surfing on Mars though, all blury.

How'd you do that "HackerKen"?....Gaillo, I think I found the one responsible... 8)

[JohnQPublic]

I think we are back! That was real quick.

I need to look into the missing avatars. The threads appear to be here.

edit: easy fix

[Horn]

Dunno? Its gettin kinda spooky in here right now, I think, I just saw a yard gnome,,,, :imskerd:

[Ponce]

Even if I never had any real problem it is working also faster for me............

[StackerKen]

I figured out a way to add mine :)


You look like you're surfing on Mars though, all blury.

How'd you do that "HackerKen"?....Gaillo, I think I found the one responsible... 8)


LOL...I think its looks kinda cool :)



yep the board is fast right now....

John; are we gonna get VB?

[Playswithfire]

gsus is listed on godaddy and urljet here

http://www.whois.net/whois/gold-silver.us

I think maybe the move is not complete


The domain name is registered with Godaddy. The website is now with Urljet.

[1970 silver art]

Yeah this is really fast. I noticed a difference already. Very good JQP.