Who Controls the Money, Controls Everything

[FunnyMoney]

Who Controls the Money, Controls Everything


Today, Friday Sept. 24, 2010, Silver reaches its multi-decade high now well over $21 per ounce. Gold also today hits an all time high touching $1300 per ounce.

When you want to control the world you must control the money. This can be done by way of military conquest or by way of money printing. Throughout history, military conflicts, the introduction of new money instruments and money exchanges, the culling of coins, the collection of taxes and the manipulation of markets has been used to control the world. For thousands of years these methods have been used by powerful leaders and financial elites to retain and expand their controls over economies, nations and utlimately the people.

All the methods of control basically come down to tricking others and are essentially all a form of fraud. But this fact is not entirely understood by even the most studied, and completely ignored by almost everyone else. But if you pay attention and if you work through the details of history it's amazingly simple and clear.

Today it is simple and clear who will be in control and while many say a "new world order" or a global govt will step in to change the money and then control the world, I do not believe that the signposts we're seeing point in that direction. What we see today points east. By the end of this decade, unless a major war of some type prevents it, China will take control.

Look at the evidence:

First, China took control of the world's reserve currency by the collection of large amounts of FRNs and through the collection of massive interest payments by way of massive bond holdings. No single nation holds more control over the world's reserve currency except the printers of it. But China understands this fact. The accumulation of USD instruments was only a single tactic among many. Having some control over the most important fiat money as well as additional controls to a lesser degree over other fiat instruments is only one part of the equation and actually not the most important part. But it was essential for China to take on this challenge first, to become the big player and to be able to set up completely integrated access to all markets around the globe. China can now trade, buy, sell and manipulate markets as well as anyone. Huge fiat money reserves and instruments of all types have given them this capability. But this only gives them partial or shared control over everything. If total control over everything means total control over the money, then more needs to be done. And more is being done.

The USD can't be entirely controlled, the printers of it are not in China, and in the end capital controls or a variety of other actions could be used to adjust the control over the money. China understands that it will be impossible to control fiat money completely no matter how much of it they can accumulate.

But there is another trick which can be performed by powerful interests, and this one is to change the money. China would very much like to change the world reserve currency to its own, the Yuan. But China knows that would be next to impossibe at this stage. To become a reserve currency requires a lot of things to happen around the world and China's influence over where people place wealth and trust and how they transact business, while large, is not comprehensive.

Nevertheless, there is something the money could be changed into which the world at large might indeed adopt this decade. As trust in fiat money declines, trust in historic money grows. Gold and silver are historic money and control over those, unlike fiat paper, is something that can be controlled. China is the #3 global producer of silver. They are the #1 producer of gold. Yet all the gold they mine remains inside their borders and they even go out to the rest of the world to bring in more. China has a monopoly when it comes to rare metals and is now in a position to set prices at any number they want to. Think about the fact that China is the number one miner of gold and doesn't sell it to the world. It would be like the car makers of Japan making more cars than anyone else yet never selling them around the world and even wanting to buy and bring more cars into their country! Why would anyone who is the number one producer of something not want to sell it and even want to accumulate more of it?

I think it is obvious why. The world's number one most desired reserve currency is going to change this decade. I bet by now you can guess what it's going to change into.

[chad]

just to argue with you, china is notorious for counterfeiting gold and silver coins, so i think the trust level with them is not so good. there used to 2 or 3 threads a week at gim1 in the metals section about fake pandas, etc.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Along with a monopoly on the rare Earth metals, they are increasing their share of the worldwide gold production.

Methinks China knows what they're doing.

http://goldstocksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/20090820_china_gold_production_1png.png

[palani]

Who Controls the Money, Controls Everything

More likely "In the land of the Blind a one eyed Man might be King."

[hoarder]

Money, power and influence are interchangable.
Whomever controls the media controls everything.

There is no way the Federal Reserve could exist without the same entity owning the media.

If I owned MSNBC, the Federal Reserve would vanish in 4 months.

[StackerKen]

Who Controls the Money, Controls Everything

Makes perfect sense too me....why wouldn't they?

[Twisted Titan]

FIRST YOU GET THE MONEY.

THEN YOU GET THE GUNS.

THEN YOU TAKE THE POWER.

[StackerKen]

If you had all the money...wouldn't you want control?

Or would you want someone else to control your money?

[Twisted Titan]

If you had all the money...wouldn't you want control?

Or would you want someone else to control your money?



[b]That is the differnece between rulership and reignship

Look at england the current ruler is replaced on average of about 7 years

But the Serpent Queen has lorded of the masses for half a Century and is still going strong( even Castro or Kadaffi cant match that)

I will glady parade a buffoon before the masses as long as I remain the power behind the throne and that coveted power has always be held by the master of money.


T

[Hatha Sunahara]

"Who Controls the Money, Controls Everything"

It's intuitive. Think about what you would do for money. Are there any limits? Money can override your own self imposed limits on what you will do or not do.

And think about how everybody else is like that. Everybody except a few saints and people we call 'losers'.

We have a dysfunctional system of incentives. Centered mostly on 'who controls the money'. As long as we value the money, there will be no way of fixing this system. No revolutions, no reforms. It's a tautology. Until we destroy the money system, it will continue to destroy us.

My prognosis is that we are headed for an epic systemic breakdown and collapse with massive ubiquitous suffering that will change peoples' minds about money. Coming soon to your local community.

Hatha

[FunnyMoney]

just to argue with you, china is notorious for counterfeiting gold and silver coins, so i think the trust level with them is not so good. ,,....


Any absolute power cannot be trusted. With China I don't think the question will be how to detect fake gold but whether or not they climb off the road to total corruption and enslavement , a question that actually the entire globe is facing.

Fiat money is misguided trust and most of the world no longer even has the right to self protection, nowhere do you find silver in the coin. History and logic indicate this does not end well.

[Ponce]

I partially disagree with that statement.............to me "power" is what controls everything, let it be from money or from having nukes or whatever..........if you have a millions dollars and I have gun pointing at you then I have the power.........the power of the Zionist "Jews" over the Americans is not the money that they have but rather the control of the press that they bought with money, even if it is a derevative of money to me is not the same.

[FunnyMoney]

I partially disagree with that statement.............

.........the power of the Zionist ... not the same.



Misguided.

Whoever controls the money can always buy any of the symptom items, the newspaper, the movies, the gossip... the media as you call it. You think the media is so powerful today but you're wrong, most people couldn't understand how absolute power works and some haven't even heard the quote about it, many of them don't have time for much media anyway. Education (or rather the lack of it and of quality) holds as high a place as the media in terms of symptom issues which form a part of the absolute control's reach. Individual responsibility (or again, rather, the lack of it) holds an even higher place in the symptom pecking order.

Get over the symptoms and on to historic root causes, root causes that even pre-date whatever group you can come up with. I have read your posts. You are hung up on the symptoms. Most people are.

[Filthy Keynes]

What is MONEY? I don't think we have MONEY in this world. We have COUPONS, but not MONEY. Where is the money? We don't have any, and nobody does.

What we call "money" is really simply just the coupons that we get from the faire, or the carneval - ie, coupons, or "tickets". We are living in a carneval. The MONEY is gold which is in vaults and owned by... nobody knows....

http://www.badclown.com/files/scary_horn.jpg

[FunnyMoney]

What is MONEY? I don't think we have MONEY in this world. We have COUPONS, ...
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We are living in a carneval. The MONEY is gold which is in vaults and owned by... nobody knows....

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Uhm, ok, well I didn't really plan on going into definitions of money and mediums of exchange, I skipped to the chase in the OP simply because I was too lazy to define today's medium of exchange and what people currently use to do business. That, and the whole phrase, "medium of exchange" doesn't fit as well into the title of the OP. It's an impact thing, you know titles and all. You certainly listened to the Pink Floyd song, "Money", somehow I bet it wouldn't have been as big a hit if they had sung "medium of exchange" instead.

One day (and possibly sooner than people might think), international contracts will use gold as the most desired medium of exchange. Or a fiat currency might become convertable into a precious metal or some basket of them. Those are the details we'll have to wait and see on.

Regardless, I agree, you would be wise to pay attention to the expiration date (read: purchasing power deterioration rate) on any "COUPONS" you are planning to keep.

[Libertarian_Guard]

What is MONEY? I don't think we have MONEY in this world. We have COUPONS, ...
...

We are living in a carneval. The MONEY is gold which is in vaults and owned by... nobody knows....

scary_horn.jpg[/img]


Uhm, ok, well I didn't really plan on going into definitions of money and mediums of exchange, I skipped to the chase in the OP simply because I was too lazy to define today's medium of exchange and what people currently use to do business. That, and the whole phrase, "medium of exchange" doesn't fit as well into the title of the OP. It's an impact thing, you know titles and all. You certainly listened to the Pink Floyd song, "Money", somehow I bet it wouldn't have been as big a hit if they had said "medium of exchange" instead.

One day (and possibly sooner than people might think), international contracts will use gold as the most desired medium of exchange. Or a fiat currency might become convertable into a precious metal or some basket of them. Those are the details we'll have to wait and see on.

Regardless, I agree, you would be wise to pay attention to the expiration date (read: purchasing power deterioration rate) on any "COUPONS" you are planning to keep.


The gold standard, even if it were nominally adopted now, would never work because people are not willing to play by the rules of the game. The rules of the game that the gold standard requires [say] that if you have an unfavorable balance of trade, you contract your currency. That's what no government can do--they'd rather go off the gold standard. In fact, I'm con- vinced that if we restored the gold standard now, within six months the first country would be off it and, within three years. it would completely disappear.

The gold standard was based on what was essentially an irrational superstition. As long as people believed there was no salvation but the gold standard, the thing could work. That illusion or superstition has been lost. We now can never successfully run a gold standard. I wish we could. Its largely as a result of this that I have been thinking of alternatives.

http://reason.com/archives/1992/07/01/the-road-from-serfdom/2

[Gaillo]

What is MONEY? I don't think we have MONEY in this world. We have COUPONS, ...
...H

We are living in a carneval. The MONEY is gold which is in vaults and owned by... nobody knows....

scary_horn.jpg[/img]


Uhm, ok, well I didn't really plan on going into definitions of money and mediums of exchange, I skipped to the chase in the OP simply because I was too lazy to define today's medium of exchange and what people currently use to do business. That, and the whole phrase, "medium of exchange" doesn't fit as well into the title of the OP. It's an impact thing, you know titles and all. You certainly listened to the Pink Floyd song, "Money", somehow I bet it wouldn't have been as big a hit if they had said "medium of exchange" instead.

One day (and possibly sooner than people might think), international contracts will use gold as the most desired medium of exchange. Or a fiat currency might become convertable into a precious metal or some basket of them. Those are the details we'll have to wait and see on.

Regardless, I agree, you would be wise to pay attention to the expiration date (read: purchasing power deterioration rate) on any "COUPONS" you are planning to keep.


The gold standard, even if it were nominally adopted now, would never work because people are not willing to play by the rules of the game. The rules of the game that the gold standard requires [say] that if you have an unfavorable balance of trade, you contract your currency. That's what no government can do--they'd rather go off the gold standard. In fact, I'm con- vinced that if we restored the gold standard now, within six months the first country would be off it and, within three years. it would completely disappear.

The gold standard was based on what was essentially an irrational superstition. As long as people believed there was no salvation but the gold standard, the thing could work. That illusion or superstition has been lost. We now can never successfully run a gold standard. I wish we could. Its largely as a result of this that I have been thinking of alternatives.

http://reason.com/archives/1992/07/01/the-road-from-serfdom/2




Spoken like a true Keynesian. Did I mention that I think the guy was COMPLETELY full of crap? ???

It won't be too much longer until even YOU, Libertarian "Guard", won't be able to deny the folly of "unpegged" Fiat funny money "money" that can be re-"valued" at will by these corrupt governmental entities... at least up to the point that they can't any more! ;D

[FunnyMoney]

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The gold standard was based on what was essentially an irrational superstition. ,.... We now can never successfully run a gold standard. I wish we could. ...

First of all, Libertarian, is that I think there is no way you can actually have that many smites without there being manipulation or unintended excessive forces at work. I don't think anyone should be burdened with a karma indicator period and this is simply one example. Even one vote of "bad karma" is too much. I think the whole use of the word karma to be an insult for a forum feature like that, the word karma in its modern day English language use is reserved for something a bit more important than some random vote, and it also promotes a massaging of behavior, agaist the beauty of the idea of "freely" flowing individual ideas in a collective discussion.

If the forum were to try and direct things in some small way, then a forum "saying" like the quote we had at GIM1 from TJ off in a corner somewhere is fine I figure, maybe the members could vote on it every year and it could change over time.

Oh, but back to your point, competing currencies, local currencies, commodities and pm based monetary systems all contain much greater transparency and are much more conducive to the maintaining of honesty than fiat.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Gaillo

Obviously you didn’t bother to click-on the link I provided, so here it is again.

http://reason.com/archives/1992/07/01/the-road-from-serfdom/2

I was quoting Friedrich Hayek, a cornerstone of Austrian Economic thought & principals. Par excellence!

The interview was his last before he died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek

[Libertarian_Guard]

FunnyMoney

I am a gold bug, through and through. That will never change. But we live in a fiat world, and that too will never change.

At this point the smites are sort of a running joke from the past. My biggest sin for accumulating them is that I get along quite well with the original founders of GIM and still consider them friends. I don't like what they did to GIM and I don't like their new site, but so what, all that is only part of my internet life. In real life I hold them in high regard. I always have and likely always will.

And I don't have or exhibit any form of Mason phobia.

And I don't bend with the wind.