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Book
29th September 2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.today.colostate.edu/userfiles/images/envirofit_stove_women_story.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/business/energy-environment/30iht-rencook.html?src=busln

http://www.today.colostate.edu/story.aspx?id=1782

After the Banksters finally reduce America to the rest of the third world: Welcome To The Real World of "Preparedness" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gbv=2&q=envirofit+stove&biw=1280&bih=525&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=isch:1,nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=in#sclient=psy&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=525&q=envirofit+stove&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=envirofit+stove&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=fb415daea57b0c54)

We won't be using an imported chainsaw for firewood or empty propane storage tanks to cook our meager bowl of daily porridge. We will be using the legs off furniture and the neighbor's fence and house for firewood.

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SHTF2010
29th September 2010, 08:58 AM
the design is based on five years of market research and a program of research, development and testing involving the Engines and Energy Conversion Laboratory at Colorado State University, the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee and the Shell Foundation.

Through its commercially operated Indian division, Envirofit has sold more than 150,000 portable cookstoves in India, priced at $12 to $25

looks like a fancy hobo stove to me
and i'm sure i can grab the bottom can from the garbage for $0

http://wildwolveswilderness.com/Articles/C9DC2C27-EB69-45A9-84FB-99B827499D61_files/DSCF4552.jpg


and yes Book, you're right, about using furniture for firewood in the near future
everytime i walk into an abandoned house, i don't see walls, framework, i see possible firewood

Hillbilly
29th September 2010, 12:43 PM
Old car rims work really good to, just cut out a grill from the bottom of an old shopping cart and you are in business.

ximmy
29th September 2010, 12:47 PM
Old car rims work really good to, just cut out a grill from the bottom of an old shopping cart and you are in business.


or a grill from some worn out old stove... if a shopping cart is not handy... :P

MNeagle
29th September 2010, 12:49 PM
The OP appears to be safe indoors. Not sure the other suggestions would be. Well, maybe the hobo can.

Dogman
29th September 2010, 12:50 PM
The OP appears to be safe indoors. Not sure the other suggestions would be. Well, maybe the hobo can.


Think no windows in the house.


Edit: With glass most poor can not afford glass window glass, screens and shutters. If living in warm to hot countrys.

ximmy
29th September 2010, 12:53 PM
How did they cook food in the olden days... before grills came along??? ???

Dogman
29th September 2010, 12:58 PM
How did they cook food in the olden days... before grills came along??? ???


You ever do any old style camping using a wood campfire? Or do you have a fireplace that burns wood?

There is your answer.

MNeagle
29th September 2010, 01:06 PM
How did they cook food in the olden days... before grills came along??? ???


wow, you are young, aren't you?

http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/CLT/CLT002/1930s-kitchen-interior_~i3355.jpg

Dogman
29th September 2010, 01:15 PM
How did they cook food in the olden days... before grills came along??? ???


wow, you are young, aren't you?

http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/CLT/CLT002/1930s-kitchen-interior_~i3355.jpg



:ROFL:


I sorta skipped the age of the wood/coal burning stoves. :lol

With the propain only generation and rules in most of the parks and such,not many of the last few
generations coming up may have used open wood fires and for sure fireplaces to cook with.

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MNeagle
29th September 2010, 01:17 PM
I meant/ was replying to Ximy. But if the shoe fits... (I know you're older than that)

Dogman
29th September 2010, 01:21 PM
I meant/ was replying to Ximy. But if the shoe fits... (I know you're older than that)


I know! I was commenting that I totally missed the wood/coal burners. ;D

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ximmy
29th September 2010, 01:23 PM
I meant/ was replying to Ximy. But if the shoe fits... (I know you're older than that)


I know! I was comating that I totally missed the wood/coal burners. ;D

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right, I mean't before the iron age... did they cook eggs on flat stones? :)

Dogman
29th September 2010, 01:32 PM
I meant/ was replying to Ximy. But if the shoe fits... (I know you're older than that)


I know! I was comating that I totally missed the wood/coal burners. ;D

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right, I mean't before the iron age... did they cook eggs on flat stones? :)




Dam!

I am not that old, But you bring up a good question! I can see slate being used which is a rock and was probably used? If the rock was smooth enough and hot enough -why not!

Pottery goes way back with man, I can see a flat peice of fired flat clay being used to fry eggs. and clay pots
for sure were used to cook with , as we still do.

Hillbilly
29th September 2010, 03:03 PM
Yep, with the way things are heading. I recommend everyone get an old car rim and a cast iron dutch oven...your going to need it, that is if you can find fuel. I'm sure all the trees in the city will be stripped and chopped down in the first winter when there is no electricity.

Book
1st October 2010, 08:36 PM
I recommend everyone get an old car rim and a cast iron dutch oven...



Yeah...this other GSUS hillbilly (http://gold-silver.us/forum/cooking/cast-iron-cookware-discussion/msg52448/#msg52448) really loves those cast iron dutch ovens.

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Hillbilly
2nd October 2010, 12:22 PM
I recommend everyone get an old car rim and a cast iron dutch oven...



Yeah...this other GSUS hillbilly (http://gold-silver.us/forum/cooking/cast-iron-cookware-discussion/msg52448/#msg52448) really loves those cast iron dutch ovens.

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I think a lot of people like cast iron dutch ovens, especially those who are prepared.

Tumbleweed
13th October 2010, 06:15 PM
I recommend everyone get an old car rim and a cast iron dutch oven...



Yeah...this other GSUS hillbilly (http://gold-silver.us/forum/cooking/cast-iron-cookware-discussion/msg52448/#msg52448) really loves those cast iron dutch ovens.

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good one Book!!! I think you may be on to something ;D

Liquid
14th October 2010, 05:20 AM
I've been cooking with an alcohol stove for the past 6 months. It's basic, simple, no moving parts, love it. I buy denatured alcohol at the hardware store for around $13 a gallon. A gallon usually lasts me a month or so.

Fill up 5 gallon cans, and I've easily got close to 2 years worth of cooking fuel prepped. It's a great feeling having the whole cooking issue taken care of.

I've heard this stove will run on just about any flammable fuel, I could probably get a distiller and make my own one day.

chad
14th October 2010, 05:34 AM
I've been cooking with an alcohol stove for the past 6 months. It's basic, simple, no moving parts, love it. I buy denatured alcohol at the hardware store for around $13 a gallon. A gallon usually lasts me a month or so.

Fill up 5 gallon cans, and I've easily got close to 2 years worth of cooking fuel prepped. It's a great feeling having the whole cooking issue taken care of.

I've heard this stove will run on just about any flammable fuel, I could probably get a distiller and make my own one day.


any links to where i can get one of these?

Liquid
14th October 2010, 06:12 PM
any links to where i can get one of these?


Sure, it's called the Origo, it's Swedish made, stainless steel. They are pricey because they are made for the "marine" environment.

The best price I've found is at www.defender.com. Type in the search Origo stoves, for the full list.

Here's the link to the one I've got..

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|319792&id=60353

They make a single burner, double burner, and stove/oven. I paid for the stove/oven because it's my primary cooker. If you were going to use it as a backup shtf stove, the single or double stove only would save you a lot of money. It's a bit more for the oven, but the oven does work well.

The best thing about these, is the simplicity. No pressurized gas, just fill up the canisters and it's as easy as that.

If you have any other questions, let me know. I recommend the stove 100% though, well build, and basically bullet proof. Nothing to break on them.

cedarchopper
14th October 2010, 06:41 PM
Here's my SHTF cooker...one good firing and I can cook with residual heat for 2 days.

Liquid
14th October 2010, 06:48 PM
Here's my SHTF cooker...one good firing and I can cook with residual heat for 2 days.


I like it.

It would sink my sailboat though. ;D Damn boats, if it's not the accidents with greaving of pm loss, it's the damn cooking. Always the cooking. ;)

cedarchopper
14th October 2010, 06:51 PM
Here's my SHTF cooker...one good firing and I can cook with residual heat for 2 days.


I like it.

It would sink my sailboat though. ;D Damn boats, if it's not the accidents with greaving of pm loss, it's the damn cooking. Always the cooking. ;)


3000 pounds (oven only), but it is mobile...built it on a trailer.

Liquid
14th October 2010, 06:58 PM
3000 pounds (oven only), but it is mobile...built it on a trailer.


That is bad-ass cedar.

Did you build this yourself? That is the ultimate shtf cooker.

cedarchopper
14th October 2010, 07:20 PM
3000 pounds (oven only), but it is mobile...built it on a trailer.


That is bad-ass cedar.

Did you build this yourself? That is the ultimate shtf cooker.


Yeah, I built it. The design is based on the ovens uncovered in Pompeii...interestingly, the proportions are based on the Golden Ratio.

It is constructed with steel, refractory cement, ceramic insulation, firebricks, insulated firebricks, perlcrete (lightweight insulating cement), and stucco.

cedarchopper
14th October 2010, 07:23 PM
here are some peels I made for it.

ximmy
15th October 2010, 06:16 PM
sweet stove cedar... here's mine... :D

mightymanx
15th October 2010, 10:03 PM
sweet stove cedar... here's mine... :D



GREAT
Simple and cost effective, but I see two drawbacks

One, the Book HOA squad would shoot you on site for possesion of said item

Two, the paint might impart a tad bit of unwanted flavor on your food.

Dogman
15th October 2010, 10:06 PM
sweet stove cedar... here's mine... :D



GREAT
Simple and cost effective, but I see two drawbacks

One, the Book HOA squad would shoot you on site for possesion of said item

Two, the paint might impart a tad bit of unwanted flavor on your food.


But it does give new meaning to the term "Putting them on the hot seat". ;D

Liquid
15th October 2010, 10:13 PM
But it does give new meaning to the term "Putting them on the hot seat". ;D


Yeah, men on the hot seat. A bunch of phalic symbols roasting on that hot seat. ???