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Ares
6th October 2010, 05:58 AM
It's raining! I don't like it! Why hasn't Congress passed the Good Weather Act and the Everybody Happy Act?

Sound dumb?

Why is it any dumber than a law called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which promised to cover more for less money?

When Obamacare was debated, we free-market advocates insisted that no matter what the president promised, the laws of economics cannot be repealed. Our opponents in effect answered, "Yes, we can."

Well, Obamacare has barely started taking effect, and the evidence is already rolling in. I hate to say we told them so, but ... we told them so. The laws of economics have struck back.

Health insurers Wellpoint, Cigna, Aetna, Humana and CoventryOne will stop writing policies for all children. Why? Because Obamacare requires that they insure already sick children for the same price as well children.

That sounds compassionate, but -- in case Obamacare fanatics haven't noticed -- sick children need more medical care. Insurance is about risk, and already sick children are 100 percent certain to be sick when their coverage begins. So if the government mandates that insurance companies cover sick children at the lower well-children price, insurers will quit the market rather than sandbag their shareholders. This is not callousness -- it's fiduciary responsibility. Insurance companies are not charities. So, thanks to the compassionate Congress and president, parents of sick children will be saved from expensive insurance -- by being unable to obtain any insurance! That's how government compassion works.

In 2014, the same rule will kick in for adults. You now know what to expect.

This is just the beginning of reality's backlash. President Obama promised that under his scheme no one will have to change medical plans, but some 840,000 Americans are already left without coverage because their insurer, the Principal Financial Group, decided to leave the market.

"(T)he company's decision reflected its assessment of its ability to compete in the environment created by the new law," The New York Times reports. "Principal's decision closely tracks moves by other insurers that have indicated in recent weeks that they plan to drop out of certain segments of the market

Last week's bombshell was that McDonald's may drop coverage for its 30,000 workers unless the Obama administration waives some rules. The central planners of the Obama administration decided in their infinite wisdom that all insurers should spend at least 80 percent to 85 percent of their revenues on patient care, a mandate aimed at minimizing administrative costs. It's natural to assume that higher patient-care ratios are better for consumers, but there's no proof of that. Health economist James C. Robinson explained years ago that "medical loss ratios" are just an accounting tool and were "never intended to measure quality or efficiency. ... More direct measures of quality are available."

The Wall Street Journal reports: "Insurers say dozens of other employers could find themselves in the same situation as McDonald's. Aetna Inc. ... provides (similar) plans to Home Depot Inc., Disney Worldwide Services, CVS Caremark Corp., Staples Inc. and Blockbuster Inc., among others, according to an Aetna client list."

McDonald's may get a waiver, but I like the Cato Institute's Michael Cannon's take on that: "Sorry, but I don't find it comforting that Obamacare gives HHS the power to waive these regulations on a case-by-case basis. Power corrupts. We've already seen HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius use other powers granted her by Obamacare to threaten insurers who contradict the party line."

In a letter to the trade group America's Health Insurance Plans, Sebelius wrote there would be "zero tolerance" for companies that attribute "unjustified rate increases" to Obamacare. "Simply stated," she wrote, "we will not stand idly by as insurers blame their premium hikes and increased profits on the requirement that they provide consumers with basic protections."

In other words: "We have repealed the basic laws of economics. Insurance companies must now give people more but not charge them for it. If you do charge more, you must not tell your customers why. Shut up, obey, and don't complain. We are your rulers."

http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/2010/10/06/congress_cant_repeal_economics/page/full/

VX1
6th October 2010, 06:18 AM
Another good example: The government's "Pension Protection Act of 2006", which singlehandedly decimated the notion of a pension. The company I work for would have been the last to get rid of their voluntary well-funded pension program, but reluctantly had to after the government came to protect us.

Ares
6th October 2010, 06:50 AM
I REALLY hate this f***ing nanny state government.

EE_
6th October 2010, 07:13 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.

Ares
6th October 2010, 07:18 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.


Because not all Jews are Zionist.

EE_
6th October 2010, 07:26 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.


Because not all Jews are Zionist.


Can you confirm he is not a Zionist?
In all his investigative reporting, has he ever gone after criminal Jews?
Doesn't he work for the Zionist news channel, Fox news?

Celtic Rogue
6th October 2010, 07:30 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.


Because not all Jews are Zionist.


Can you confirm he is not a Zionist?
In all his investigative reporting, has he ever gone after criminal Jews?


Can you confirm he is?

EE_
6th October 2010, 07:33 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.


Because not all Jews are Zionist.


Can you confirm he is not a Zionist?
In all his investigative reporting, has he ever gone after criminal Jews?


Can you confirm he is?

I will error on the side of safety and say he is.
Works for Fox news, he's Jewish and never speaks out on criminal Jews...good enough for me.

Horn
6th October 2010, 07:58 AM
Just like the government to totally decimate the one last sectors of the economy that was functioning. Granted costs were too high, but to approach it the way it was approached was completely back asswards. Were any rulings vs, malpractice suits even given consideration or time to effect? Or hospital supply chains investigated for price gouging?

Ares
6th October 2010, 09:03 AM
I will error on the side of safety and say he is.
Works for Fox news, he's Jewish and never speaks out on criminal Jews...good enough for me.

Well you can lump most of the mainstream media and and even a good portion of the alternative media as hardly anyone talks about the elephant in the room.

John has done a lot in exposing the fraud of government. So I am going to give him a benefit of a doubt.

Book
6th October 2010, 09:10 AM
Just like the government to totally decimate the one last sectors of the economy that was functioning. Granted costs were too high, but to approach it the way it was approached was completely back asswards.



Doctor Mamboni's hospital was already treating all the sick children for free?

:D

PatColo
6th October 2010, 09:29 AM
So tell me why you're giving any credibility to this John Stossel Jewish character?
I'll disregard anything he says.


Because not all Jews are Zionist.


Can you confirm he is not a Zionist?
In all his investigative reporting, has he ever gone after criminal Jews?


Can you confirm he is?

I will error on the side of safety and say he is.
Works for Fox news, he's Jewish and never speaks out on criminal Jews...good enough for me.



This clip may be a shill/controlled-opp roundtable (Napolitano, Stossel, Schiff), but just as disinfo should be "mostly true" to effectively get the target audience to swallow the poison pill part; in this clip they're sort of hinting at what I suspect is the beginning of a long term (UN/Agenda-21) plan to abolish private property:




More on the theory that TPTB's master plan is the end of the institution of private property (UN Agenda 21):

"U N Agenda 21 quote There Will Be No Private Housing Peter Schiff John Stossel Judge Napolitano"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ee6S9_H1Vk




@ 2:00 Napolitano: Is it true the government has come up with some new program whereby you give the deed of your house to the government, the government owns it, and you rent from the government?

Stossel: You bet. Fannie and Freddie are going to be in the rental business. They don't want to foreclose on so many people and dump the houses on the market, as they should to try to shrink these monsters, so they're going to rent. And what kind of record does government have of running public housing? [...more]



I think as they let the banksters' controlled demolition of real estate values progress, this "gummit holds the deed & rents to former/insolvent owners" program will be a calculated transitional step towards the eventual abolition of private property.




I also thought Stossel was effective in this 20/20 segment helping debunk how (going into debt for) college isn't a good idea for everyone,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_24uSPedM

EE_
6th October 2010, 09:36 AM
I will error on the side of safety and say he is.
Works for Fox news, he's Jewish and never speaks out on criminal Jews...good enough for me.

Well you can lump most of the mainstream media and and even a good portion of the alternative media as hardly anyone talks about the elephant in the room.

John has done a lot in exposing the fraud of government. So I am going to give him a benefit of a doubt.


Catching city officials with prostitutes and auto workers smoking pot on lunch break may be honorable, but does he do it for the good of all, or for the paycheck?
Meanwhile, the big crooks that run the media, banks, Wall Street...the people that are ruining family's lives and are robbing/destroying this country, don't even get looked at.
You are free to give John a pass, I will not.

FunnyMoney
6th October 2010, 11:05 AM
I will error on the side of safety and say he is.


Guilty until proven otherwise. Very good strategy EE. You would make a good judge. If God asks, I'll direct him your way. I'm sure he could use some help with the judgement thing.

Anyone who has given an interview to or written something that was published by, or who has associated in any way with the MSM, or who has dark skin, or a longer than average nose, or with parents from some particular very despised religion should be rounded up. Yes indeed, let's error on the side of safety.













:sarc:

EE_
6th October 2010, 12:28 PM
I will error on the side of safety and say he is.


Guilty until proven otherwise. Very good strategy EE. You would make a good judge. If God asks, I'll direct him your way. I'm sure he could use some help with the judgement thing.

Anyone who has given an interview to or written something that was published by, or who has associated in any way with the MSM, or who has dark skin, or a longer than average nose, or with parents from some particular very despised religion should be rounded up. Yes indeed, let's error on the side of safety.

:sarc:

lol, when 99 out 100 Zionist Jews in the media, banking and government are liers and thieves...there's a good chance they all are.
I don't go looking in a barrel full of rotten apples to find one good apple.

madfranks
6th October 2010, 12:58 PM
It's raining! I don't like it! Why hasn't Congress passed the Good Weather Act and the Everybody Happy Act?

Sound dumb?

Actually, it's scary to think how many people believe the government can and should do this sort of thing.

Horn
6th October 2010, 01:26 PM
Sounds feasible, madfranks.

Alls we'd need to do is extend the benefits into a "nightlight savings time", or to be more specific extend the number of hours in a day on those days of the month when there is no moon. Then decrease them equally on those days when the moon is full.

This i feel would result in the proper balance.

Twisted Titan
6th October 2010, 02:28 PM
So if the government mandates that insurance companies cover sick children at the lower well-children price, insurers will quit the market rather than sandbag their shareholders. This is not callousness -- it's fiduciary responsibility. Insurance companies are not charities.


Remember this thinking when a bankster tells you that you have a "moral obligation" to pay on a upside down house in the rapidly depreciating area.

Cite Fiduciary Responsibilty.


Got it?


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