Chinese archaeological find shatters “Out of Africa” myth.

[Ponce]

I knew that I was no freaking monkey...
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Chinese archaeological find shatters “Out of Africa” myth.

The “Out of Africa” myth is a theory put forth not by actual scientists but by left-wing liberal arts professors. The theory is not based on any scientific evidence, but on social and political dogma. Often, the science departments at liberal Universities are bullied into accepting such hogwash by leftist University heads.

Already the human genome project as well as the Neanderthal genome project have shattered the political motivated “Out of Africa” myth. The projects have discovered incredible differences between the genetic makeup of modern man along racial lines. Modern homo sapien races did not evolve from a single ancestor. In the case of Caucasians, genes originating with the Neanderthals are present. Neanderthal genes are also found, but to a lesser extent in Asians, but are completely absent in the Negro race. This is quite significant as experts widely recognize the Neanderthal as the most advanced pre-homo sapiens.

An archaeological find in China shows strong evidence of parallel human evolution with multiple, different ancestors. An anatomically modern human jawbone was found deep in the earth and comes from a time period in which such humans were only supposed to have existed in Africa.

http://cofcc.org/2010/10/chinese-archaeological-find-shatters-out-of-africa-myth/

[Dogman]

[quote=Ponce ]
I knew that I was no freaking monkey...
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[7th trump]

I knew that I was no freaking monkey...
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Chinese archaeological find shatters “Out of Africa” myth.

The “Out of Africa” myth is a theory put forth not by actual scientists but by left-wing liberal arts professors. The theory is not based on any scientific evidence, but on social and political dogma. Often, the science departments at liberal Universities are bullied into accepting such hogwash by leftist University heads.

Already the human genome project as well as the Neanderthal genome project have shattered the political motivated “Out of Africa” myth. The projects have discovered incredible differences between the genetic makeup of modern man along racial lines. Modern homo sapien races did not evolve from a single ancestor. In the case of Caucasians, genes originating with the Neanderthals are present. Neanderthal genes are also found, but to a lesser extent in Asians, but are completely absent in the Negro race. This is quite significant as experts widely recognize the Neanderthal as the most advanced pre-homo sapiens.

An archaeological find in China shows strong evidence of parallel human evolution with multiple, different ancestors. An anatomically modern human jawbone was found deep in the earth and comes from a time period in which such humans were only supposed to have existed in Africa.

http://cofcc.org/2010/10/chinese-archaeological-find-shatters-out-of-africa-myth/

Been saying what the ancient manuscripts have been saying all along.
God created the colored races (asian white, red, black and yellow or gentiles) on the 6th day (adam) and then God created a race that Christ would come through (a husbandman or farmer), the 8th day creation (pronounced ehh-ha-adahm), the white celtic and aglo saxon race.
The true chosen people consist of Germany, England, Italy, Switzerland, Norway, Scottland, France, Great Britian, America, Australia, Poland, Holland, Russia and so on. These are the ten tribes that went over the Caucaucian mountains of Georgia after captivity and are called "caucasions" for a very biblical reason.
Ask any kenite if they are caucasion. All the kenite jews will tell you that all other races including the white race are goyum. Its these kenites that Christ address as coming from the synagogs of satan. Wolves in sheeps clothing ring a bell?

[Celtic Rogue]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

[7th trump]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Because God is in control and will do what ever He wishes when He created man in our image.
Woman is formed from the rib (helical curve of DNA) of man but yet God also created adam and eve.

Goes along the same line that people beleive the lie about eve eating an apple and no such thing ever happened. Watch what you read and hear from a third party.

[ximmy]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html


I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

[7th trump]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html


I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

There isnt a 6th day creation that didnt live in grass or mud or bambo houses. All major technology and innovation came from the 8th day race that Christ came through, caucasions.
The caucasion race has blessed this world by allowing God to work through them. Its His chosen People.
The caucasion race also has curses when they dont obey God.
God allows the tares to correct His People when they are disobedient. God just whistles over to the kenites and they come in and tear down what His people have built.
The synagogs of satan tares are in control with their central banks and political policies and rule world in these end times.

[ximmy]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html


I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

There isnt a 6th day creation that didnt live in grass or mud or bambo houses. All major technology and innovation came from the 8th day race that Christ came through, caucasions.


thank you, your religio-theological construct of genesis account has me convinced... :whistle

[Ash_Williams]

I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

Do you enjoy your life any more with the stuff we have than if you lived in a grass hut and "worked" (gardened and hunted) outdoors only about 4 hours a day to eat well?

We all work our asses off to try to live the dream of being free from all the responsibilities and stresses and money worries!

[7th trump]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html


I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

There isnt a 6th day creation that didnt live in grass or mud or bambo houses. All major technology and innovation came from the 8th day race that Christ came through, caucasions.


thank you, your religio-theological construct of genesis account has me convinced... :whistle

You can continue drinking all the kool ade you want ximmy.
The vail will be lifted and theres not going to be anything secret on the 7th trump. All things will be known by everyone and you will know and understand just where you stack up in the book of Life.
Your name may not be written in the book of Life. You may be sceduled for destruction and blotted from memory of those who are written in the book of Life.
The choice is yours?
Free will is a wonderful thing and nobody to blame but yourself!

[Dogman]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html


I don't know, but one population evolves, creates, builds, organizes... the other population stagnates; lives in grass and mud huts... It baffles me mind...

There isnt a 6th day creation that didnt live in grass or mud or bambo houses. All major technology and innovation came from the 8th day race that Christ came through, caucasions.
The caucasion race has blessed this world by allowing God to work through them. Its His chosen People.
The caucasion race also has curses when they dont obey God.
God allows the tares to correct His People when they are disobedient. God just whistles over to the kenites and they come in and tear down what His people have built.
The synagogs of satan tares are in control with their central banks and political policies and rule world in these end times.

[ximmy]

You can continue drinking all the kool ade you want ximmy.
The vail will be lifted and theres not going to be anything secret on the 7th trump. All things will be known by everyone and you will know and understand just where you stack up in the book of Life.
Your name may not be written in the book of Life. You may be sceduled for destruction and blotted from memory of those who are written in the book of Life.
The choice is yours!


:ROFL:
When I think of grandma looking up and watching over me from below... I can only hope for the day when I will be with her for eternity...

[7th trump]

You can continue drinking all the kool ade you want ximmy.
The vail will be lifted and theres not going to be anything secret on the 7th trump. All things will be known by everyone and you will know and understand just where you stack up in the book of Life.
Your name may not be written in the book of Life. You may be sceduled for destruction and blotted from memory of those who are written in the book of Life.
The choice is yours!


:ROFL:
When I think of grandma looking up and watching over me from below... I can only hope for the day when I will be with her for eternity...



What makes you think grandma can save you?
Even Marry had to go through Christ to be saved. Marry was no exception.
God is not a respecter of persons. He is fair and just.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlM52fUrNz4

[Neuro]

How old was this jawbone in China? Any pics of it?

I am sceptical of the out of Africa theory myself. Northern people may have migrated and intermixed with East Africans, during the Ice age about 70.000 years ago creating the impression, that the resultant intermixed race was the beginning of modern man. But I have read convincing evidence that the genetic distance between the different human races is too big to have occurred during the last 70.000 years, more probably over 700.000 years...

[Ponce]

There is need and then there is want........I am guilty of having......not because I need it but because I wanted it.

Happier were the old days with no TV, comp, cell phone and so on.......where people just to go to the corner and sit on chairs and talk about everything while the kids were playing games on the streets and all doors were always open for anyone to walk in and a cup of coffee was given to you......we now have became prisoners of our own culture where we now don't even know the name of the people next door and where when you visit someone you first have to call and make an appointment.........quantity don't bring us happiness, only problems.

Neuro? yes, go to the link.

[Neuro]

Neuro? yes, go to the link.

Yes I did, I don't have YouTube, banned in Turkey, can't see the video..

[Dogman]

How old was this jawbone in China? Any pics of it?

I am sceptical of the out of Africa theory myself. Northern people may have migrated and intermixed with East Africans, during the Ice age about 70.000 years ago creating the impression, that the resultant intermixed race was the beginning of modern man. But I have read convincing evidence that the genetic distance between the different human races is too big to have occurred during the last 70.000 years, more probably over 700.000 years...


This is too long to post, but it does relate to this thread.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html (http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html)

[Celtic Rogue]

As soon as any of you god/bible quoting people can prove to me with facts the existence of this incarnation of god (yes there have been many gods before this one.) I will become a true believer and follow... UNTIL then no thanks. The whole concept of a god is so old fashion and for the feeble minded. You don't score any intellectual points when you use god as your answer for everything. I suppose you believe in creationism? Where everything just popped into existence out of the firmament? I used to believe in Santa Clause too... Sorry but I believe that any fanatical religious people are a threat to normal people everywhere. Believe in my god or I will kill you seems to be the prevalent view. Smite away... 8-)

[keehah]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

Mitochondrial Eve lived much earlier than the out of Africa migration that is thought to have occurred between 95,000 to 45,000 BP.

And men of course. Not hard to imagine some genetic old timers wanting to get inside the latest model.

[MAGNES]

Been saying what the ancient manuscripts have been saying all along.
God created the colored races (asian white, red, black and yellow or gentiles) on the 6th day (adam) and then God created a race that Christ would come through (a husbandman or farmer), the 8th day creation (pronounced ehh-ha-adahm), the white celtic and aglo saxon race.
The true chosen people consist of Germany, England, Italy, Switzerland, Norway, Scottland, France, Great Britian, America, Australia, Poland, Holland, Russia and so on. These are the ten tribes that went over the Caucaucian mountains of Georgia after captivity and are called "caucasions" for a very biblical reason.
Ask any kenite if they are caucasion. All the kenite jews will tell you that all other races including the white race are goyum. Its these kenites that Christ address as coming from the synagogs of satan. Wolves in sheeps clothing ring a bell?


You need to learn Indo European history, and just European history in general, I think you'd enjoy it too.

Trolls on other forums, Jew trolls, their main goal is trolling IE issues, the same trolls that
troll 9/11 issues, why ?

Even WN types fall for this and when they do they totally deny the greatness of European man.

European Man was in North America 20,000 years ago, Indo European movements started about
40,000 years ago, the more they discover the greater and incredible the finds.

And most of it is ignored by MSM even though archeology speaks louder, the stones don't lie.

On the find, it shows at the very least the timetable of movements for "out of africa"
is bogus.

On China, China hides archeology finds too, Indo European man ruled all over Asia.
They were mass murdered by the Mongols just as they did in North America.

All of this is online from reputable journals of history and archeology.

My intro to I E history came from books long time ago, language books.

I am no fan of the O T, never was, Christianity is the New Testament.

I don't believe in dogmas and idolize a work written by committee.
Commissioned by Greeks 300BC, and most of it is ripoffs.

Even Church leaders and Church philosophers in Europe wrote reason supercedes scripture.
Over 2000 years history, trolls/people only point the the dark history, even deny present existence.

You want me to tell you what happened on the 9th day ?



Yes I did, I don't have YouTube, banned in Turkey, can't see the video..


ROFL !

Can you open a thread and tell us what happened, even I forgot.

[Neuro]

Here you can read about the problems using the genetic drift in human mitochondria, the clock doesn't really work at all, apparently to get the recent out of Africa theory to work they needed to assume that mitochondrial DNA mutates much quicker in humanoids than in monkeys, further they assume also that the mutation rate has increased the last 11.000 years. To me it sounds like, they are so intent on proving that all humans came out of Africa 45-60.000 years ago that they are prepared to distort reality so it proves this... Most likely the Homo Erectus came out of Africa a million years ago or so, and over time formed different distinct races of humans that we see today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mitochondrial_molecular_clock

[Gaillo]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Because God is in control and will do what ever He wishes when He created man in our image...


Uh huh... the old "God did it because he wanted to" argument. Made the mitochondrial DNA markers of two different, distinct species identical in order to test our faith? Just like he did when he created all those dinosaur bones and put them in various strata of the earth's crust - so the "sinners" would stray from the 7 day creation myth and believe what our lying eyes and scientific instruments tell us instead?

I'm not buying it. Religion is a copout, but saying inconvenient scientific FACTS are there "because God wanted it that way to 'test' us" is a DOUBLE copout. ::)

[MAGNES]

To me it sounds like, they are so intent on proving that all humans came out of Africa 45-60.000 years ago that they are prepared to distort reality so it proves this... Most likely the Homo Erectus came out of Africa a million years ago or so, and over time formed different distinct races of humans that we see today.

[ how did the black man make it to Australia, or parts of S Asia ? boat ?
the answer goes back way beyond a million years most likely ]



They do this on other issues too, deny history, war on history, ignore major
archeology finds, deny funding, they have propaganda to sell and anything that
refutes their propaganda gets treated this way. It's getting worse too.

The " marxists " are doing this, they control the Universities.

The target is Western Man and History.

David Horowitz is in one of these videos, from the horses mouth.
They infiltrated the schools long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+frankfurt+school+politica l+correctness

The Frankfurt School, Tavistock, Fabian Society created London School of Economics, + + +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyu-9-OhHog

[Ponce]

Ponce<---------staying out of this one, don't know what the heck they are talking aobut :-\

[nunaem]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Because God is in control and will do what ever He wishes when He created man in our image...


Uh huh... the old "God did it because he wanted to" argument. Made the mitochondrial DNA markers of two different, distinct species identical in order to test our faith? Just like he did when he created all those dinosaur bones and put them in various strata of the earth's crust - so the "sinners" would stray from the 7 day creation myth and believe what our lying eyes and scientific instruments tell us instead?

I'm not buying it. Religion is a copout, but saying inconvenient scientific FACTS are there "because God wanted it that way to 'test' us" is a DOUBLE copout. ::)


I wish scientific ignorance was the worst Christi(ns)anity had to offer, but it is far worse. It's an anti-life Jewish death cult for slaves.(goyim)

(sorry for going off topic)


Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life's nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in "another" or "better" life.
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A Jesus Christ was possible only in a Jewish landscape--I mean one over which the gloomy and sublime thunder cloud of the wrathful Yahweh was brooding continually. Only here was the rare and sudden piercing of the gruesome and perpetual general day-night by a single ray of the sun experienced as if it were a miracle of "love" and the ray of unmerited "grace." Only here could Jesus dream of his rainbow and his ladder to heaven on which God descended to man. Everywhere else good weather and sunshine were considered the rule and everyday occurrences.
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Christianity possesses the hunters instinct for all those who can by one means or another be brought to despair - of which only a portion of mankind is capable. It is constantly on their track, it lies in wait for them. Pascal attempted the experiment of seeing whether, with the aid of the most incisive knowledge, everyone could not be brought to despair: the experiment miscarried, to his twofold despair.
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The reverse side of Christian compassion for the suffering of one's neighbor is a profound suspicion of all the joy of one's neighbor, of his joy in all that he wants to do and can.
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Christianity has done its utmost to close the circle and declared even doubt to be sin. One is supposed to be cast into belief without reason, by a miracle, and from then on to swim in it as in the brightest and least ambiguous of elements: even a glance towards land, even the thought that one perhaps exists for something else as well as swimming, even the slightest impulse of our amphibious nature- is sin! And notice that all this means that the foundation of belief and all reflection on its origin is likewise excluded as sinful. What is wanted are blindness and intoxication and an eternal song over the waves in which reason has drowned.



EDIT: Rather than further derail the thread I'll reply to Magnes below in this post.


I'm not going to address all of the assertions you make about Christinsanity (invented education!?). I'll just pretend that everything you say is true and this doctrine of raving semites both saved and created western civilization, and totally doesn't neuter western men.

Given what a wonderful product Christinsanity is, why could it not have been invented by a white man? Why must western men's lord and savior and god's chosen people be Jews? Isn't that awfully convenient?

[MAGNES]

I wish scientific ignorance was the worst Christi(ns)anity had to offer, but it is far worse. It's an anti-life Jewish death cult for slaves.(goyim)


You are wrong on both counts and you are clueless to history, I referred to people like you above.

Without Christianity there would be no Europe, no science, math, philosophy,
the greatest Christians that ever existed defended Europe on the brink, brought
back the classics, saved Europe, created education, Charlamagne did all of this.
Just to make it short, brought Europe out of the Dark Ages, the Occult hates
him and most "get an education" not knowing sh*t about anything that matters,
there is a reason for that. You claim to be awake and give the real death cult a pass,
see my previous post, other great leaders were people like Constantine, Justinian.
The Occult hates them, Jews hate them, and nobody knows what they did.
Even on this site the Occult Queen promotes lies as did Skyvike on gim.
They target these people for a reason, they lie on a personal level,
took me a while to figure them out, they are freaks.

It is actually the enemies of our great history that do exactly what you claim.

CHRISTIANS BUILT THE WEST !

The death cult has always worked to destroy it and they have ensured you
don't get an education on who Western leaders were, like Chalamagne, Constantine,
both German, even Justinian wasn't Greek nor Italian. They hate them all and
work against them as most walk around oblivious. Even before your noses on gim
and here too. Join them, go bow down to "lucifer", that is what they do openly.
They created the Dark Age and are working to bring it back too. E M was right on.

They want people to believe through lies you are all monkeys from africa and we
are all equal as they mug your minds and your pockets, ENSLAVED !

And my posts are from a historical perspective , not religious, people don't
seem to get that, which is why I look like I am in the middle of all of you.

Your post is like a test, "how many people here know the truth ?" Whether deliberate or not.

[Dogman]

I wish scientific ignorance was the worst Christi(ns)anity had to offer, but it is far worse. It's an anti-life Jewish death cult for slaves.(goyim)


You are wrong on both counts and you are clueless to history, I referred to people like you above.

Without Christianity there would be no Europe, no science, math, philosophy,
the greatest Christians that ever existed defended Europe on the brink, brought
back the classics, saved Europe, created education, Charlamagne did all of this.
Just to make it short, brought Europe out of the Dark Ages, the Occult hates
him and most "get an education" not knowing sh*t about anything that matters,
there is a reason for that. You claim to be awake and give the real death cult a pass,
see my previous post, other great leaders were people like Constantine, Justinian.
The Occult hates them, Jews hate them, and nobody knows what they did.
Even on this site the Occult Queen promotes lies as did Skyvike on gim.
They target these people for a reason, they lie on a personal level,
took me a while to figure them out, they are freaks.

It is actually the enemies of our great history that do exactly what you claim.

CHRISTIANS BUILT THE WEST !

The death cult has always worked to destroy it and they have ensured you
don't get an education on who Western leaders were, like Chalamagne, Constantine,
both German, even Justinian wasn't Greek nor Italian. They hate them all and
work against them as most walk around oblivious. Even before your noses on gim
and here too. Join them, go bow down to "lucifer", that is what they do openly.
They created the Dark Age and are working to bring it back too. E M was right on.


We are still using Arab science and math. And the info is not just listed on wiki. ;D


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science#Science_in_Medieval_Europe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics)

Just saying.

[MAGNES]

We are still using Arab science and math.


Even if you are 100% correct , which you ain't in your comment,
what did they do with that math and "science" ? European history
spans thousands of years, evolving, burrowed, who denies it ?
Even the Greeks burrowed , who denies it ? The Arabs/Muslims
destroyed Christian cities and countries, wiped them out,
they saved a few books after they burned down the libraries,
mostly math and science, they would of got beheaded for saving
other works. Nobody is denying they did their own thing.

Their greatest enemy, the 3 key people I mentioned above,
especially Charlamagne and family, who brought Europe
out of the dark ages, saved Latin, literature, empowered
the Church, created education, created and invented the very
way we are writing right now to prevent degeneracy as before.
They did all of this trying to free Europe of the invaders and
defending Christian lands. The Churh and Monks saved almost
all works, preserved them, hunted for them, copied them.
Most is lost though cause of Arabs/Muslims. People look
smart giving them credit. lol Some one burns your house
down but you thank them for saving a book, your comments,
"we still use", what we use is reason and question, scientific
discovery and the process is uniquely western.

I didn't read the links but skimmed them, don't see anything
wrong with them, I would recommend people look at them.

What is it supposed to prove, that "the west" is muslim or jewish ?

Vikings to the north were doing the same thing, Charlamagne stopped them.
Later they became the greatest force, on autopilot, followed Charlamagne
generations later.

As far as freedom again, and the domain, some of the greatest States, free,
highly Christian, were the independant Italian city states, no accident that the
Renaissance which was highly Christian happened here. Here we also had the
Carolingian Renaissance, highly Christian, brought to you by Charlamagne & Family.

If you told these people that the planet is full of equals and were monkeys they would tell you off.
Rightly so. The Chinese agree, as they suppress other finds they out this one. lol

[Horn]

Lemme guess, God being the infinite in power saw fit to curse man for his original sin, by locking him in a cage with monkeys for eternity, and for this we are to be grateful.

[Dogman]

We are still using Arab science and math.


Even if you are 100% correct , which you ain't in your comment,
what did they do with that math and "science" ? European history
spans thousands of years, evolving, burrowed, who denies it ?
Even the Greeks burrowed , who denies it ? The Arabs/Muslims
destroyed Christian cities and countries, wiped them out,
they saved a few books after they burned down the libraries,
mostly math and science, they would of got beheaded for saving
other works. Nobody is denying they did their own thing.

Their greatest enemy, the 3 key people I mentioned above,
especially Charlamagne and family, who brought Europe
out of the dark ages, saved Latin, literature, empowered
the Church, created education, created and invented the very
way we are writing right now to prevent degeneracy as before.
They did all of this trying to free Europe of the invaders and
defending Christian lands. The Churh and Monks saved almost
all works, preserved them, hunted for them, copied them.
Most is lost though cause of Arabs/Muslims. People look
smart giving them credit. lol Some one burns your house
down but you thank them for saving a book, your comments,
"we still use", what we use is reason and question, scientific
discovery and the process is uniquely western.

I didn't read the links but skimmed them, don't see anything
wrong with them, I would recommend people look at them.

What is it supposed to prove, that "the west" is muslim or jewish ?


Not at all Maybe I took what you wrote too literary and interpreted it as saying Christians created those arts.
And in that time frame Christians/catholic I view that era more of the time of creation of the catholic church.
And the beginning of the holy roman empire. It took the shedding of a lot of blood but they did unite Europe.
I do agree that Charlemagne did start the process of dragging Europe out of the so called dark ages.That began the holy roman church/empire. And what could be called the beginnings of the modern Christian after Luther and the Protestant movement began and all of the bloodshed of that time.

Question?
Who is this person you are referring to ? "Even on this site the Occult Queen promotes lies as did Skyvike on gim." Inquiring minds would like to know so when reading her posts I can fondle my cross and St.Christopher to ward off the evil that post may contain. ;)


Edit: Also am going to stop. Sorry to the o/p for my part of the thread derailing. |--0--|

[Horn]

Inquiring minds would like to know so when reading her posts I can fondle my cross and St.Christopher to ward off the evil that post may contain. ;)


Fondle, or fiddle?

I think you might garnish evil by fondling him.

Fiddlings OK though. Everyone's allowed to fiddle, even Chris.

[Dogman]

Inquiring minds would like to know so when reading her posts I can fondle my cross and St.Christopher to ward off the evil that post may contain. ;)


Fondle, or fiddle?

I think you might garnish evil by fondling him.

Fiddlings OK though. Everyone's allowed to fiddle, even Chris.



:ROFL:

[7th trump]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Because God is in control and will do what ever He wishes when He created man in our image...


Uh huh... the old "God did it because he wanted to" argument. Made the mitochondrial DNA markers of two different, distinct species identical in order to test our faith? Just like he did when he created all those dinosaur bones and put them in various strata of the earth's crust - so the "sinners" would stray from the 7 day creation myth and believe what our lying eyes and scientific instruments tell us instead?

I'm not buying it. Religion is a copout, but saying inconvenient scientific FACTS are there "because God wanted it that way to 'test' us" is a DOUBLE copout. ::)

Ya God wanted to.......God didnt have to want to destroy 1/3 of his creation for following lucifer. So God destroyed the first earth age (foundation of the world) to bring in this current earth age where each and every one of us gets a chance in the flesh to decide who we are going to follow in hopes there will be less than 1/3 to destroy.
This earth age is done and over with at the 7th trumpet when the real Christ appears. We change back into our spiritual bodies at that 7th trump (great detail of this body changing in Zachariah ch14) and go into the last and third earth age. Does not God say this earth will be rejuvenated that a new earth will he established? 2nd Peter chapter 3 give good detail of all three earth ages
So instead of destroying 1/3 of His children (us) God is hoping that all will worship him through faith.
Dinosaurs were in the first earth age and when the new earth is rejuvenated they will return.
In the first earth age we were in spiritual bodies while the animals were in flesh bodies and hence why the bones in the earths crust.
Theres coming a day Gaillo when you doubters will get a first hand look at the rath of God and will begging your lives for forgiveness.

[steyr_m]

I never believed that I'm an African. That is one of the biggest things that Liberals hold dear. "Deep down inside, we're all Negroes...." Yeah right, BS....

[messianicdruid]

Lemme guess, God being the infinite in power saw fit to curse man for his original sin, by locking him in a cage with monkeys for eternity, and for this we are to be grateful.

Not for eternity, just for this age. And those who learn and remain faithful to Christ's Law and do not take up the ways of the heathen will be made rulers with Christ in His Kingdom. If you understood anything about having worthy opponents, you would be very grateful. Gratitude is the mark of noble souls.

[ximmy]

Theres coming a day Gaillo when you doubters will get a first hand look at the rath of God and will begging your lives for forgiveness.

[7th trump]

Lemme guess, God being the infinite in power saw fit to curse man for his original sin, by locking him in a cage with monkeys for eternity, and for this we are to be grateful.

Not for eternity, just for this age. And those who learn and remain faithful to Christ's Law and do not take up the ways of the heathen will be made rulers with Christ in His Kingdom. If you understood anything about having worthy opponents, you would be very grateful. Gratitude is the mark of noble souls.

Someone who knows the score!

[7th trump]

Theres coming a day Gaillo when you doubters will get a first hand look at the rath of God and will begging your lives for forgiveness.




hahaha..........Ximmy! Thats real good. What website did you go to add in words?
As far as the Gaillo comment I made to him you have taken it way out of context, but then again I'm considering the source.

God is not a respecter of persons Ximmy and that doesnt mean God is out to get everyone. The Law is set in place, but God has also the blood of Christ installed for repentence, so when you do sin its wiped from the book of Life so that you may overcome.
You may think you are funny, cute and all, but the reality of it all is you are not. You are really looked down on with pity.

What "God is not a respecter of persons" means God doesn't bend the Law for anyone to achieve salvation. Everybody in the eyes of God is a favorite. Not one letter of the Law has or is changed. The only thing God has changed is the time satan is on this earth play acting as christ, a fake messiah. That time for satan has been shortened from 7 years to 5 months for the Elects sake. Not for the worlds sake, but for the Elects sake (you wouldnt even understand the significants of that). Other than that the Law has not changed.
God obeys His laws as Christ on earth was the example of that. You are either going to accept Christ or be scheduled for the destruction in the firey pit when it is opened if you refuse Christ.
You like most think the wicked are going to burn in hell for an eternity..............farthest from the truth you can be. God is coming back to reestablish his thrown on earth in Jerusalem so what would God be if He had an eternal firey pit in Heaven where people are screaming for an eternity? Do you realy think God is that cruel?
He doesnt have an eternal pit. Its closed up in Revelation after satan and wicked are destroyed from within.
What people like you dont want to see is that God is going to destroy the wicked in the firery pit, not the righteous. And what I mean by destroy is that wicked and satan are going to be "POOF"!.......gone as in no more. As in never existed and the memory of those wicked people are wiped from the righteous memory. This is what "blotted" means if you ever came acrossed it in the Bible. Ximmy these are not my words, but our creaters words. Its written!
Your grandma might have done something in her life time that has her on the bad side of the gulf waiting for destruction in the firery pit when it opens. So if you overcome and your grandma didnt you will never know she existed in the new earth after the firery pit is sealed up.
Lucifer tried to bend the rules and his revolt is the reason we are all going through this flesh in this earth age experience. Some are going to overcome and some are not.
So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed.

Your grandma has no power to save you. Salvation is only attained through Christ. You and only you can only attain salvation. God nor Christ is going to do that for you, only you can.

[Neuro]

More fire and brimstone, are those who derail threads going to be destroyed too? :whip

[messianicdruid]

"So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

If God could save everyone, would He?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/COLDFUSION/booklet.cfm?PID=8

[ximmy]

"So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

If God could save everyone, would He?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/COLDFUSION/booklet.cfm?PID=8


Right... Ximy is not the only one who admires a well thought out eschatology when she hears one... or sniffs out a high toned skunk when she smells one... "So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

[7th trump]

"So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

If God could save everyone, would He?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/COLDFUSION/booklet.cfm?PID=8


Right... Ximy is not the only one who admires a well thought out eschatology when she hears one... or sniffs out a high toned skunk when she smells one... "So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

So I'm taking this I'm a high toned skunk?

[silver solution]

Hmmm? I am not entirely onboard with this article... jawbone withstanding... mitochondrial dna has traces ALL humans to a small group of sisters in africa many many many generations ago. So how do you think is possible that two different populations evolved in a parallel fashion and are the same species and has the same mitochondrial markers as the other?



http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Because God is in control and will do what ever He wishes when He created man in our image...


Uh huh... the old "God did it because he wanted to" argument. Made the mitochondrial DNA markers of two different, distinct species identical in order to test our faith? Just like he did when he created all those dinosaur bones and put them in various strata of the earth's crust - so the "sinners" would stray from the 7 day creation myth and believe what our lying eyes and scientific instruments tell us instead?

I'm not buying it. Religion is a copout, but saying inconvenient scientific FACTS are there "because God wanted it that way to 'test' us" is a DOUBLE copout. ::)


I wish scientific ignorance was the worst Christi(ns)anity had to offer, but it is far worse. It's an anti-life Jewish death cult for slaves.(goyim)

(sorry for going off topic)


Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life's nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in "another" or "better" life.
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A Jesus Christ was possible only in a Jewish landscape--I mean one over which the gloomy and sublime thunder cloud of the wrathful Yahweh was brooding continually. Only here was the rare and sudden piercing of the gruesome and perpetual general day-night by a single ray of the sun experienced as if it were a miracle of "love" and the ray of unmerited "grace." Only here could Jesus dream of his rainbow and his ladder to heaven on which God descended to man. Everywhere else good weather and sunshine were considered the rule and everyday occurrences.
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Christianity possesses the hunters instinct for all those who can by one means or another be brought to despair - of which only a portion of mankind is capable. It is constantly on their track, it lies in wait for them. Pascal attempted the experiment of seeing whether, with the aid of the most incisive knowledge, everyone could not be brought to despair: the experiment miscarried, to his twofold despair.
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The reverse side of Christian compassion for the suffering of one's neighbor is a profound suspicion of all the joy of one's neighbor, of his joy in all that he wants to do and can.
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Christianity has done its utmost to close the circle and declared even doubt to be sin. One is supposed to be cast into belief without reason, by a miracle, and from then on to swim in it as in the brightest and least ambiguous of elements: even a glance towards land, even the thought that one perhaps exists for something else as well as swimming, even the slightest impulse of our amphibious nature- is sin! And notice that all this means that the foundation of belief and all reflection on its origin is likewise excluded as sinful. What is wanted are blindness and intoxication and an eternal song over the waves in which reason has drowned.



EDIT: Rather than further derail the thread I'll reply to Magnes below in this post.


I'm not going to address all of the assertions you make about Christinsanity (invented education!?). I'll just pretend that everything you say is true and this doctrine of raving semites both saved and created western civilization, and totally doesn't neuter western men.

Given what a wonderful product Christinsanity is, why could it not have been invented by a white man? Why must western men's lord and savior and god's chosen people be Jews? Isn't that awfully convenient?
Gods chosen people are a nation or commonwealth of nations Israel. I'm not taking about that little place in the middle east with the stolen name.

Jesus was Israel, Champion of God. Jesus was not a jew and even cursed the jews before they murdered him.

[ximmy]

"So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

If God could save everyone, would He?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/COLDFUSION/booklet.cfm?PID=8


Right... Ximy is not the only one who admires a well thought out eschatology when she hears one... or sniffs out a high toned skunk when she smells one... "So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

So I'm taking this I'm a high toned skunk?


Allow me to testify... I looked for a shoe that fits you and couldn't come up with one so...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XAr4tBV0w

[7th trump]

"So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

If God could save everyone, would He?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/COLDFUSION/booklet.cfm?PID=8


Right... Ximy is not the only one who admires a well thought out eschatology when she hears one... or sniffs out a high toned skunk when she smells one... "So yea, God is in control and will do what He pleases to make for sure the least amount of His children are destroyed."

Well Ximmy if you think I'm making all this up as what you call "eschatology" then you have a long hard road ahead of you.
God gave each and everyone of us freewill to Love Him. Thats all He wants is your Love. When Christ died on the cross all blood sacrifices were no longer. The sacrifice God is looking for is your love for Him.
And all you do is put mans flesh corruption as an explaination that God cannot save everyone. You are very selfish Ximmy! You lash out at God for your material inequities!
I have news for you Ximmy....................God doesnt save anyone, that wouldnt be free will. Only you can save yourself through the acceptence of Christ as your Savior. There is no other way!
It sounds to me that you are angry and blame God for your sins......................why?
God can save anybody and everybody He so desires, but God didnt make us little robots and program us to repeatedly say "I love you" now did He?
No He didnt. He created us with freewill...............a most precious gift from an unselfish Creater.
He created us to feel every emotion that He feels.................thats pretty darn beautiful if you ask me.
God is so unselfish his very own Son shed blood for our own personal salvation so that not one would perish.
And this demonstration of a spoiled brat is the thanks you give Him?

[ximmy]

Well Ximmy if you think I'm making all this up as what you call "eschatology" then you have a long hard road ahead of you.
God gave each and everyone of us freewill to Love Him. Thats all He wants is your Love. When Christ died on the cross all blood sacrifices were no longer. The sacrifice God is looking for is your love for Him.
And all you do is put mans flesh corruption as an explaination that God cannot save everyone. You are very selfish Ximmy! You lash out at God for your material inequities!
You blame Him for your sins......................why?
God can save anybody and everybody He so desires, but God didnt make us little robots and program them to repeatedly say "I love" now did He?
No He didnt. He created us with freewill...............a most precious gift from an unselfish Creater.
God is so unselfish his very own Son shed blood for our own personal salvation so that not one would perish.
And this is the thanks you give Him?



Oooh mighty 7th... I would bow down to thee in thine greatness oh you (7 headed dragon), http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q132/oddsey/Smiley%20GIFs/AllHailMeg.gif But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth... :plll

[7th trump]

Well Ximmy if you think I'm making all this up as what you call "eschatology" then you have a long hard road ahead of you.
God gave each and everyone of us freewill to Love Him. Thats all He wants is your Love. When Christ died on the cross all blood sacrifices were no longer. The sacrifice God is looking for is your love for Him.
And all you do is put mans flesh corruption as an explaination that God cannot save everyone. You are very selfish Ximmy! You lash out at God for your material inequities!
You blame Him for your sins......................why?
God can save anybody and everybody He so desires, but God didnt make us little robots and program them to repeatedly say "I love" now did He?
No He didnt. He created us with freewill...............a most precious gift from an unselfish Creater.
God is so unselfish his very own Son shed blood for our own personal salvation so that not one would perish.
And this is the thanks you give Him?



Oooh mighty 7th... I would bow down to thee in thine greatness oh you (7 headed dragon), http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q132/oddsey/Smiley%20GIFs/AllHailMeg.gif But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth... :plll


Do you understand what the "river" is?
Do you understand who the "dragon" is?
Or is this the gratitude towards God?

[ximmy]

Do you understand what the "river" is?
Do you understand who the "dragon" is?
Or is this the gratitude towards God?


I understand what the abode of every "foul spirit" manifests itself as...
I understand where the cage of every unclean and "hateful bird" resides...
Thank God...

[7th trump]

Do you understand what the "river" is?
Do you understand who the "dragon" is?
Or is this the gratitude towards God?


I understand what the abode of every "foul spirit" manifests itself as... (and?)
I understand where the cage of every unclean and "hateful bird" resides...(and?)
Thank God...

[ximmy]

Do you understand what the "river" is?
Do you understand who the "dragon" is?
Or is this the gratitude towards God?


I understand what the abode of every "foul spirit" manifests itself as... (and?)
I understand where the cage of every unclean and "hateful bird" resides...(and?)
Thank God...




Do you not know... have you not heard... has it not been told you from the beginning???... Baiting doesn't work on ximy... oh, little horn (7th), with eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth boasting great things...

[7th trump]

Do you understand what the "river" is?
Do you understand who the "dragon" is?
Or is this the gratitude towards God?


I understand what the abode of every "foul spirit" manifests itself as... (and?)
I understand where the cage of every unclean and "hateful bird" resides...(and?)
Thank God...




Do you not know... have you not heard... has it not been told you from the beginning???... Baiting doesn't work on ximy... oh, little horn (7th), with eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth boasting great things...

Oh I'm not baiting you Ximmy............................you didnt answer any one of those questions correctly.
heres a clue Ximmy.................there in parable form meaning that words are substituded for different words.

"River" means "flow of lies" and the "dragon" is satan spewing nothing but a river of lies.
You see the truth here is satan appears on earth play acting as christ fooling the world he is christ.

you see oh foolish one.......................the number of the beast is 666. The 6th trumpet, the 6th vail, and the 6th seal.
Read each and everyone of those passages and see who appears causing death and destruction and a flood (a river of lies)

[ximmy]

Oh I'm not baiting you Ximmy............................you didnt answer any one of those questions correctly.
heres a clue Ximmy.................there in parable form meaning that words are substituded for different words.

"River" means "flow of lies" and the "dragon" is satan spewing nothing but a river of lies.
You see the truth here is satan appears on earth play acting as christ fooling the world he is christ.

you see oh foolish one.......................the number of the beast is 666. The 6th trumpet, the 6th vail, and the 6th seal.
Read each and everyone of those passages and see who appears causing death and destruction and a flood (a river of lies)


I can see you are quite pleased with yourself, Oh obsequious one... :00-->

[Neuro]

How old was this jawbone in China? Any pics of it?

I am sceptical of the out of Africa theory myself. Northern people may have migrated and intermixed with East Africans, during the Ice age about 70.000 years ago creating the impression, that the resultant intermixed race was the beginning of modern man. But I have read convincing evidence that the genetic distance between the different human races is too big to have occurred during the last 70.000 years, more probably over 700.000 years...

The author makes a convincing job debunking the "recent out of Africa"- human origin theory in this free e-book;

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/index.html#Contents

[7th trump]

Oh I'm not baiting you Ximmy............................you didnt answer any one of those questions correctly.
heres a clue Ximmy.................there in parable form meaning that words are substituded for different words.

"River" means "flow of lies" and the "dragon" is satan spewing nothing but a river of lies.
You see the truth here is satan appears on earth play acting as christ fooling the world he is christ.

you see oh foolish one.......................the number of the beast is 666. The 6th trumpet, the 6th vail, and the 6th seal.
Read each and everyone of those passages and see who appears causing death and destruction and a flood (a river of lies)


I can see you are quite pleased with yourself, Oh obsequious one... :00-->

Pleased?
Naw, not really just fishing and planting Ximmy.
And thanks for the compliment Ximmy.