Why Does Political Power Corrupt?

[kregener]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1BVYpNkk-A

[Silver Shield]

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[chad]

in a former life, i was heavily involved in politics. i served on multiple city boards, county boards, at a certain point, i could have been mayor of a town of around 50,000 if i had wanted to. i walked away from it all because i become disillusioned with it and saw what really happened behind the scenes.

in my experience, there's 2 types of people in politics. the incredibly naive (like me) who think they are going to change something if they just try hard enough (mr. smith goes to washington), and the "others."

the "others" are the ones that become corrupt. in my experience, it's because politics and "being important," is the only thing they have in their lives. their have no hobbies, no friends, sh*tty marriages, no real job skills, etc. but, they are good at small talking, bullsh*tting, etc. politics becomes their whole lives. people have to be their friend, be nice to them, etc. because they are the chairman of this or that, etc. without the politics, they'd be nothing.

i got tired of surrounding myself with these people because they are just negative and sh*tty at heart.

from what i saw in my former life, about 90% of everything behind the scenes is totally orchestrated by small groups of people, usually l,ocals with money who have been there for generations. i imagine the same happens on the state an national levels.

[keehah]

Because it is corruption.

Both Imperium and Regnum are corruptions of nature, of our essence, of existance.

Like saying Why is a giant big?

[Dogman]

in a former life, i was heavily involved in politics. i severed on multiple city boards, county boards, at a certain point, i could have been mayor of a town of around 50,000 if i had wanted to. i walked away from it all because i become disillusioned with it and saw what really happened behind the scenes.

in my experience, there's 2 types of people in politics. the incredibly naive (like me) who think they are going to change something if they just try hard enough (mr. smith goes to washington), and the "others."

the "others" are the ones that become corrupt. in my experience, it's because politics and "being important," is the only thing they have in their lives. their have no hobbies, no friends, sh*tty marriages, no real job skills, etc. but, they are good at small talking, bullsh*tting, etc. politics becomes their whole lives. people have to be their friend, be nice to them, etc. because they are the chairman of this or that, etc. without the politics, they'd be nothing.

i got tired of surrounding myself with these people because they are just negative and sh*tty at heart.

from what i saw in my former life, about 90% of everything behind the scenes is totally orchestrated by small groups of people, usually l,ocals with money who have been there for generations. i imagine the same happens on the state an national levels.


Chad

What you say is so true. The town I live in has around 6-7 thousand people in it. This is my home town born here, etc,etc.

There are family's living here that go back over 150 years some of them you could call rich, if not that then well off. It is not so evident anymore now because of their kids moving away and the old guard dieing off.
But the power these family's held when it came to this town was increadable! They had say over what business that came into town and how things were run, always in the background, never in public. No need to it was just known who was pulling the strings.

And their kids and kids, kids if they got in trouble with the law maybe a blip on the radar and then Zip, nada
things go quiet no jail or trials nothing. Accident caused while drunk and someone killed-zip never goes to trial. Family's payed off and that was that, plus if things get pushed something could happen and no way anything could be proven.

So what you say about back room deals and the person up front is just the figurehead is so true, the real power is held by the ones behind the curtain, the ones you never see or hear.

[chad]

in a former life, i was heavily involved in politics. i severed on multiple city boards, county boards, at a certain point, i could have been mayor of a town of around 50,000 if i had wanted to. i walked away from it all because i become disillusioned with it and saw what really happened behind the scenes.

in my experience, there's 2 types of people in politics. the incredibly naive (like me) who think they are going to change something if they just try hard enough (mr. smith goes to washington), and the "others."

the "others" are the ones that become corrupt. in my experience, it's because politics and "being important," is the only thing they have in their lives. their have no hobbies, no friends, sh*tty marriages, no real job skills, etc. but, they are good at small talking, bullsh*tting, etc. politics becomes their whole lives. people have to be their friend, be nice to them, etc. because they are the chairman of this or that, etc. without the politics, they'd be nothing.

i got tired of surrounding myself with these people because they are just negative and sh*tty at heart.

from what i saw in my former life, about 90% of everything behind the scenes is totally orchestrated by small groups of people, usually l,ocals with money who have been there for generations. i imagine the same happens on the state an national levels.


Chad

What you say is so true. The town I live in has around 6-7 thousand people in it. This is my home town born here, etc,etc.

There are family's living here that go back over 150 years some of them you could call rich, if not that then well off. It is not so evident anymore now because of their kids moving away and the old guard dieing off.
But the power these family's held when it came to this town was increadable! They had say over what business that came into town and how things were run, always in the background, never in public. No need to it was just known who was pulling the strings.

And their kids and kids, kids if they got in trouble with the law maybe a blip on the radar and then Zip, nada
things go quiet no jail or trials nothing. Accident caused while drunk and someone killed-zip never goes to trial. Family's payed off and that was that, plus if things get pushed something could happen and no way anything could be proven.

So what you say about back room deals and the person up front is just the figurehead is so true, the real power is held by the ones behind the curtain, the ones you never see or hear.


it's completely true, what you say. i was approached by a group of them and asked if i wanted to run for mayor. it was obvious that i would win if i ran, as they would "make it happen." there were other people that were way more qualified than me to be mayor, but at this point in my life, i was "in the group." it was ALL behind the scenes.

i kind of had an epiphany one day (about 3 years ago) and walked away from it. i had just had it with the bullshit that you're expected to do (go to the art gala, the opening of this or that, be seen on friday night at such and such supper club, etc). my wife and i picked up and left town. shortly thereafter, i discovered gim1. since then, i've been trying to figure it all out.

[Large Sarge]

Maybury is great!

the Late Harry Browne was great also.

his thing on govt schools, and worshipping govt officials certainly plays a major role in how things have evolved.

I would only add, that voluntary, peaceful solutions require more time and thought.

The Crowd, when confronted with some crisis (local, state, national, etc) will almost always go for the "quick and forceful solution"

I am unsure how you remedy that, maybe less flouride, better thinking skills, less chemtrails, more patience, etc

Part of it is human nature I guess, and you may never remedy it completely, people want the "easy fix, that requires no thought"

Great to see Maybury posted, thanks again for that.

recommend all his books, to anyone who has not read them

[palani]

It is not power that corrupts but lack of accountability. Inherent in democracy is consent. You consent by casting a ballot. When you cast a ballot you agree to go along with the will of the majority. Anything the winner wants to do he now has your consent to do it and you cannot complain.

The remedy: DON'T VOTE. Remove your voters registration. Anyone performs a trespass you go out and find a remedy. One such remedy might be to go after their bonds. Most of them don't have bonds anyway so go after their jet ski. Lien 'em up after they have received their due process.

[7th trump]

It is not power that corrupts but lack of accountability. Inherent in democracy is consent. You consent by casting a ballot. When you cast a ballot you agree to go along with the will of the majority. Anything the winner wants to do he now has your consent to do it and you cannot complain.

The remedy: DON'T VOTE. Remove your voters registration. Anyone performs a trespass you go out and find a remedy. One such remedy might be to go after their bonds. Most of them don't have bonds anyway so go after their jet ski. Lien 'em up after they have received their due process.

Do you know anything about democracy or for that matter a republic palani?
Casting a ballot has nothing at all to do with consent. Voting has nothing to do with it. They voted in the early years of this country just as they do now.
You agree to go along with the majority when you agree to being a part of a democracy. America is not based on a democracy palani. It is a republic thats has turned into a democracy by consent.
Early Americans voting in the early days had a republic form of government thats nothing like America today.


“...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State,...” “One may be a citizen of a State an yet not a citizen of the United States”.
McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)

What do you suppose happened palani?
Why is this court citing this way in "McDonel v. The State"?

How did we come from a republic form of government to a democracy?
Any guess because your dillusion is baseless and nothing but hearsay.

[palani]

Do you know anything about democracy or for that matter a republic palani?
All those words and not a single one rebuts what I wrote.

[7th trump]

Do you know anything about democracy or for that matter a republic palani?
All those words and not a single one rebuts what I wrote.

No rebuts doesnt make what you think is right or correct.
Ever thought that they, like you, have no clue to what the differences between a democracy and a republic are and dont care to learn?
Or maybe the ones with a clue know you understand nothing and isnt worthy a care to respond.
Ever thought that you should at least investigate what you are talking about before posting.

[palani]

No rebuts doesnt make what you think is right or correct.
Ever thought that they, like you, have no clue to what the differences between a democracy and a republic are and dont care to learn?
Or maybe the ones with a clue know you understand nothing and isnt worthy a care to respond.
Ever thought that you should at least investigate what you are talking about before posting.



You DO know that when you vote you are doing so in the democracy? I don't believe you understand this KEY point. You seem to be arguing for voting in some form of a republic yet sign up for social benefits like a hog at a trough. I would be willing to bet you even have a social (in)security number.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Does it really matter if we're a republic or a democracy or both or neither? I think the people who have woken up to what we really are have stopped voting, because it's a sham. The people we vote for serve the money interests behind them.

What it boils down to is what Jesus Christ so beautifully summarized: The love of money is the root of all evil. It is that love of money--which indirectly is power--that corrupts absolutely. And it was Lord Acton who observed that "Power corrupts; and Absolute Power corrupts absolutely".

A more accurate description of what we have is a corrupt, and still rotting plutocracy that is grasping for ever more power as everything starts to crumble with corruption. It's a 'gotterdamerung of greed'. Political power corrupts because it can be sold to the highest bidder.

Hatha

[Hatha Sunahara]

And it's not just our politicians that have that love of money. It's in all of us to some degree.

Hatha

[nunaem]

What it boils down to is what Jesus Christ so beautifully summarized: The love of money is the root of all evil.


If the love of money is evil, then we shouldn't be concerned about said money being stolen by our masters. 'Give unto Caesar' and all that. Hell, we should be grateful that they take our money, lest we grow fond of it.

[Ash_Williams]

Political power necessarily corrupts. I don't believe it can exist any other way.

If the person won't be talked into something, you bribe them.
If they won't take the bribe, you threaten them.
If they ignore the threat you make the threat a little more real, enough so their worried for themselves or their family.
If they don't do what you want by then you destroy them. Make them a pedophile in the eyes of other people.
If people see through that, you kill them.

Power can't exist without being corrupted. It simply should not be allowed to exist as it does. That was the mistake - allowing our leaders too much power.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Power doesn't have to corrupt. It does when the people who want it are corruptible. They accept bribes. Corruption is like pornography. You know it when you see it. The people who seek power however are the most corruptible in our society, so we get what we have now. Maybury says it in the video.


Hatha

[7th trump]

Does it really matter if we're a republic or a democracy or both or neither? I think the people who have woken up to what we really are have stopped voting, because it's a sham. The people we vote for serve the money interests behind them.

What it boils down to is what Jesus Christ so beautifully summarized: The love of money is the root of all evil. It is that love of money--which indirectly is power--that corrupts absolutely. And it was Lord Acton who observed that "Power corrupts; and Absolute Power corrupts absolutely".

A more accurate description of what we have is a corrupt, and still rotting plutocracy that is grasping for ever more power as everything starts to crumble with corruption. It's a 'gotterdamerung of greed'. Political power corrupts because it can be sold to the highest bidder.

Hatha

I never could have said it better than what you just said Hatha.
Yes Christ summarized the best.
Thanks for giving credit where credit belongs..................Christ.

[gunDriller]

in many cases, it corrupts because the corrupters are guided not by the Bible, but by the Talmud.

and the corrupters are guided by a "Greed is Good / Privatize the profits, socialize the Costs / Scam thy Neighbor" mindset.

maybe also, political power allows a sleight of hand that things are being done for the "public good", when the strategies being implemented are designed to benefit, the Few, the Proud, the Kosher - and their Gentile cohorts.

[Bigjon]

Political power necessarily corrupts. I don't believe it can exist any other way.

If the person won't be talked into something, you bribe them.
If they won't take the bribe, you threaten them.
If they ignore the threat you make the threat a little more real, enough so their worried for themselves or their family.
If they don't do what you want by then you destroy them. Make them a pedophile in the eyes of other people.
If people see through that, you kill them.

Power can't exist without being corrupted. It simply should not be allowed to exist as it does. That was the mistake - allowing our leaders too much power.


There was a time in this country when the people had the tools to keep the government honest.

Red Beckman gives a talk about our most important votes, the vote we have when sitting on a grand jury and the vote we have when sitting on a petit jury.

Grand Juries were supposed to be run under the control of the people on the grand jury, not used as a tool of the prosecuting attorneys. The Grand Jury could subpoena any government official even the president.

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/runaway.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5959251658237547562#