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nunaem
8th October 2010, 06:54 PM
Revenge of the Neanderthal (http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/ToolBarTopics/Articles/Featured_Authors/Carto,_Willis/Barnes_2006-2010/Willis_A._Carto_2010_05-06_TBR;_Revenge_of_the_Neanderthal.html)

I thought this was hilarious as well as interesting. I've never heard of this theory until now. What do you think?

keehah
8th October 2010, 07:02 PM
No. Its the Germans! (LOL)

Regardless we showed them modern man is badass....

The Neanderthal was originally a scenic limestone canyon with waterfalls and caves. However, industrial mining during the 19th and 20th centuries removed almost all of the limestone and dramatically changed the shape of the valley. It was during such a mining operation that the bones of the original Neanderthal man were found in a cave. Neither the cave nor the cliff in which it was located exist anymore.
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Neanderthal,_Germany

EE_
8th October 2010, 07:15 PM
I think it's all true! ;)

mamboni
8th October 2010, 08:03 PM
Very interesting - most compelling. Genetic studies would test this theory, notwithstanding the many generations of intermarriage over the last 60,000 years.

Book
8th October 2010, 08:20 PM
http://zsidozas.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/ayn-rand.jpg?w=400&h=300

http://zsidozas.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/ugly-jews/

:D

nunaem
8th October 2010, 08:22 PM
I found the pictures most compelling:

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/12/neanderthal_660px.jpg

mamboni
8th October 2010, 08:28 PM
When I first read the Neanderthal proposal, I thought to myself that the author was joking. Then I concluded he is a raving nut. Now, after considering the photographic and historical evidence, I'm not so sure that the theory is wrong. :conf: :conf: :conf:

Book
8th October 2010, 08:50 PM
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Steve-Wozniak-2-ages.jpg
Woz

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Amy-Winehouse.jpg
Amy Winehouse

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Richard-Fuld-Jr.jpg
Fuld of Lehman Brothers

nunaem
8th October 2010, 09:06 PM
Hmmm... ???

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Blame-the-Neanderthals.html

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-2.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-3.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-4.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-5.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-6.html
The rabbit hole is deeper than I thought.

ximmy
8th October 2010, 09:16 PM
:ROFL:

ACCORDING TO A NOVEL THEORY PUT FORTH BY SEVERAL DIVERSE WRITERS AND RESEARCHERS, Neanderthal man may not have died out after all, but his descendants (intermixed with others) may still be living among us today and are known collectively as "the Jews." Not only the author but others have independently theorized that the Neanderthal is the true ancestors of the Jews. The following essay is an effort to examine this important and controversial theory. Accompanying the essay is a wide variety of material that provides a comprehensive foundation for the thesis.

very funny... :D

nunaem
8th October 2010, 09:20 PM
It's hilarious, especially after looking at the pictures. But then you start to wonder...

nunaem
8th October 2010, 10:52 PM
http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/2010/08/neanderthal-hypothesis.html


The Neanderthal Hypothesis

The whole world is puzzled by the undisguised insanity that seems to pervert and pollute every news story on earth.

Why would they deliberately poison the ocean? Why would they bomb innocent countries? Why do they poison food, foul the air, and produce supposedly beneficial medicines that, when studied carefully, always seem to contain hidden, time delayed poisons?

Why are they deliberately trying to kill our own children?

But before the why comes the who? Many of us have spent decades trying to identify the perpetrators, and a lot of us think we have a pretty good idea who is behind all these contrived atrocities that have ruined our lives down through the centuries.

Among the greatest exposers of these tragedies have been Jewish turncoat writers, who betrayed their own sick dogma to prove they were human beings, too.

Benjamin Freedman, in his famous 1961 Willard Hotel speech, still has written the best description of why World War One started. Arthur Koestler made famous the concept that Jews were not Hebrews, they were Russians and other assorted Yiddish Eastern Europeans.

More recently, Shlomo Sand has convincingly detailed how there was no Jewish culture to begin with, and how it was cobbled together from cutthroat refugees from around the world, and an entire history of Judaism was created out of sadistic fantasy that now strangles the world with its bogus and misdirected hatred.

But another Jew, one of my own age and our generation, Michael Bradley, may just exceed these humane Jewish-human patriots with the scope and profundity his stunning hypothesis.

Jews are the remnants of the Neanderthals, he says, nearly rubbed out by the Cro-Magnons 7500 years ago, and nursing a deathless hatred of their enemies, who today are all the non-Jews of the world.

Bradley, a Jewish writer, warns us:

“It is time for the non-Semitic peoples of the world to come together in a multi-racial alliance under one banner in order to severely limit Semitic activities before they put an end to us and everything else on the planet. . . . However, I will warn everyone that it may well be too late.”

In two astonishing books, Bradley writes of the Cro-Magnon slaughter of Neanderthals c. 5600 BC. Remnants of the nearly extinct hunchbacks retreated to deep in the impenetrable mountains of the Caucasus, where their vengeful retribution has been felt in every area of human endeavor ever since.

Bradley figures monotheism is a Neanderthal plot to more efficiently control the people who are targeted as the hosts of their parasitic perversities, with the implication that all of human civilization has been influenced by the predispositions of Neanderthal DNA. DNA samples prove that Semitic populations are possessed of up to 70 percent of Neanderthal DNA, which accounts for why what is now the nation of Israel has been the epicenter of world violence since most ancient times, Bradley concludes.

He insists that today’s Jews who are plundering the world on every level of reality and calls for a multi-racial analysis of this thoroughly perfidious group, which is now busy destroying the world by its control of money and all the governments of the world.

“This is precisely what I argued in The Iceman Inheritance (1978), Chosen People from the Caucasus (1992) and what Erik Trinkaus at least inferred in his The Neanderthals of 1992. However, my own calculations indicate that some Middle East Semitic populations approach 50 percent Neanderthal and in some very specific small areas, 70 percent Neanderthal. Given the usually modest Semitic populations in mountain valleys and arid landscapes of the Caucasus Middle East, this sort of Neanderthal DNA concentration among some groups would not affect that ”1 to 4 percent" of the total world population very much.”

On his website, Bradley presents an astonishing conclusion:

“In my view, there are two major subspecies of technical humanity presently contending for the domination of our world."

“Their Chosen People pretension is a typical Neanderthal in-group obsession that is actually a genetic racist predisposition against all other humans. It is a genetically determined “us against them” mentality. Their higher level of known Neanderthal aggression against outsiders is responsible for their disproportional social influence wherever they have settled in the West. . . . The Ashkenazi Jews, as a group, exhibit lingering Neanderthal traits most strongly among living Caucasians because of Jewish prohibitions against marriage with outsiders. Their Neanderthal genes have been kept “all in the family”, as it were. These Neanderthal genes were not diluted by intermarriage nearly as much as with most other Caucasians.”

According to Bradley, the Neanderthal heritage of modern-day Jewish people explains much about their ongoing problems with not only the native people of Palestine but with other people on the planet. He writes:

“This unfortunate combination of high aggression combined with a tendency toward emotional instability and hysteria when they feel nervous or threatened . . . which is all the time when they are not? in absolute control. And they are arrogant, but uneasy, even then. An ethnic symptom of this emotional instability is the Jewish tendency toward hypochondria. Even they cannot (yet) control death. This unfortunate combination of high aggression combined with a tendency toward hysteria and emotional instability has proved to be a dangerous and tragic situation over the course of Western history. Their aggression encourages continual Jewish attempts to control societies, while the emotional instability makes it difficult for most Jews to distinguish reasonably between justified social criticism by their non-Jewish neighbors and attacks.”

“Insensitive even to objective concerns about inordinate Jewish influence in societies, and reacting with hysterical aggression to any such supposed “attack” on their behavior and pleas from non-Jews to limit it, Jews have always provoked violence against themselves. And then they, with much emotional satisfaction, feel victimized and attribute the situation to innate “anti-Semitism” among their neighbors.”

In essence, the Barnes Review concluded:

Bradley contends that people and cultures emerging from the Caucasus Mountains (a known refuge of late lingering Neanderthal populations) in proto-historical and historical times would have remained highly intelligent, highly aggressive and psychosexually maladapted (promoting a high level of in-group cohesion). These traits, Bradley contends, explain the survival of Biblical Hebrews against all odds and also the inordinate social influence of modern Western Jews.

Bradley contends that there is no mystique of “the chosen people.” “Monotheism”— a purely male and abstract Godhead— is merely a result of Neanderthal glacial physical and mental adaptations or maladaptations. Proven Neanderthal in-group cohesion and extreme aggression together resulted in a fiercely parochial “chosen people” perspective. The cultural fusion of the two separate streams of “Jews” has, since the 16th century, played an important role in the evolution of Western civilization and thus in the molding of the entire world’s present cultural profile.

Bradley contends that a uniquely high level of lingering Neanderthal aggression, perpetuated by ethnic prohibitions against outside marriage, has been responsible for the major role played by those calling themselves Jews in the discovery and conquest of the Americas, the transatlantic trade in Black Africans as slaves and cultural colonization of non-Whites by the West. It has been a role too often distorted and disguised by loud lamentations of “anti-Semitism.”

To me, this is a formidable example of a Jew writing like a human being in the remarkable tradition of Freedman, Koestler and Sand. But the implications of another actual species out to exterminate its millennia old enemy — perhaps this is Pindar’s original Penalty of an Ancient Grief — evidenced by all of the wreckage of a sabotaged civilization — means something dire.

When a predator — especially a superior one — is out to exterminate every last one of its competitors, it means that no peaceful solution is possible. One need only contemplate the daily condition of the world, mutilated as it is by what Bradley calls the savage Neanderthal heritage of today’s Jewish puppet masters.

The implications of the Neanderthal hypothesis are that no peaceful process of reclaiming the world from the Jews is possible.

nunaem
8th October 2010, 11:53 PM
http://johndenugent.com/neanderthals-and-semites-2

Neuro
9th October 2010, 12:18 PM
I think the troll mythology may come from the Neanderthals, and they appear to still troll at forums and such on the net.

keehah
9th October 2010, 07:03 PM
I think it's all true! ;)

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Three Neanderthal Sub-Groups Confirmed
ScienceDaily (Apr. 15, 2009) (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090415075150.htm)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2009/04/090415075150.jpg
Paleoanthropological studies based on morphological skeletal evidence have offered some support for the existence of three different sub-groups: one in Western Europe, one in southern Europe and another in the Levant.

Researchers Virginie Fabre, Silvana Condemi and Anna Degioanni from the CNRS Laboratory of Anthropology (UMR 6578) at the University of Marseille, France, have given further consideration to the question of diversity of Neanderthals by studying the genetic structure of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and by analyzing the genetic variability, modeling different scenarios. The study was possible thanks to the publication, since 1997, of 15 mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequences (the mtDNa is maternally transmitted) that originated from 12 Neanderthals.

The new study confirms the presence of three separate sub-groups and suggests the existence of a fourth group in western Asia. According to the authors, the size of the Neanderthal population was not constant over time and a certain amount of migration occurred among the sub-groups. The variability among the Neanderthal population is interpreted to be an indirect consequence of the particular climatic conditions on their territorial extension during the entire middle Pleistocene time period.

Volcanoes Wiped out Neanderthals, New Study Suggests (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101006094057.htm)

ScienceDaily (Oct. 7, 2010) — New research suggests that climate change following massive volcanic eruptions drove Neanderthals to extinction and cleared the way for modern humans to thrive in Europe and Asia...

The ash layers correspond chronologically to what is known as the Campanian Ignimbrite super-eruption which occurred around 40,000 years ago in modern day Italy, and a smaller eruption thought to have occurred around the same time in the Caucasus Mountains. The researchers argue that these eruptions caused a "volcanic winter" as ash clouds obscured the sun's rays, possibly for years. The climatic shift devastated the region's ecosystems, "possibly resulting in the mass death of hominins and prey animals and the severe alteration of foraging zones."

vacuum
10th October 2010, 01:26 AM
Serious question: Why is this theory so unbelievable?

In this article the anthropologist thinks that neanderthals did no die out be were simply re-absorbed into the larger human population.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100921171412.htm

Neanderthals More Advanced Than Previously Thought: They Innovated, Adapted Like Modern Humans, Research Shows

ScienceDaily (Sep. 22, 2010) — For decades scientists believed Neanderthals developed `modern' tools and ornaments solely through contact with Homo sapiens, but new research from the University of Colorado Denver now shows these sturdy ancients could adapt, innovate and evolve technology on their own.

The findings by anthropologist Julien Riel-Salvatore challenge a half-century of conventional wisdom maintaining that Neanderthals were thick-skulled, primitive `cavemen' overrun and outcompeted by more advanced modern humans arriving in Europe from Africa.

"Basically, I am rehabilitating Neanderthals," said Riel-Salvatore, assistant professor of anthropology at UC Denver. "They were far more resourceful than we have given them credit for."

His research, to be published in December's Journal of Archaeological Method and Theory, was based on seven years of studying Neanderthal sites throughout Italy, with special focus on the vanished Uluzzian culture.

About 42,000 years ago, the Aurignacian culture, attributed to modern Homo sapiens, appeared in northern Italy while central Italy continued to be occupied by Neanderthals of the Mousterian culture which had been around for at least 100,000 years. At this time a new culture arose in the south, one also thought to be created by Neanderthals. They were the Uluzzian and they were very different.

Riel-Salvatore identified projectile points, ochre, bone tools, ornaments and possible evidence of fishing and small game hunting at Uluzzian archeological sites throughout southern Italy. Such innovations are not traditionally associated with Neanderthals, strongly suggesting that they evolved independently, possibly due to dramatic changes in climate. More importantly, they emerged in an area geographically separated from modern humans.

"My conclusion is that if the Uluzzian is a Neanderthal culture it suggests that contacts with modern humans are not necessary to explain the origin of this new behavior. This stands in contrast to the ideas of the past 50 years that Neanderthals had to be acculturated to humans to come up with this technology," he said. "When we show Neanderthals could innovate on their own it casts them in a new light. It `humanizes' them if you will."

Thousands of years ago, southern Italy experienced a shift in climate, becoming increasingly open and arid, said Riel-Salvatore. Neanderthals living there faced a stark choice of adapting or dying out. The evidence suggests they began using darts or arrows to hunt smaller game to supplement the increasingly scarce larger mammals they traditionally hunted.

"The fact that Neanderthals could adapt to new conditions and innovate shows they are culturally similar to us," he said. "Biologically they are also similar. I believe they were a subspecies of human but not a different species."

The powerfully built Neanderthals were first discovered in Germany's Neander Valley in 1856. Exactly who they were, how they lived and why they vanished remains unclear.

Research shows they contributed between 1 and 4 percent of their genetic material to the people of Asia and Europe. Riel-Salvatore rejects the theory that they were exterminated by modern humans. Homo sapiens might simply have existed in larger groups and had slightly higher birthrates, he said.

"It is likely that Neanderthals were absorbed by modern humans," he said. "My research suggests that they were a different kind of human, but humans nonetheless. We are more brothers than distant cousins."

vacuum
10th October 2010, 01:30 AM
I think it's all true! ;)

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Three Neanderthal Sub-Groups Confirmed
ScienceDaily (Apr. 15, 2009) (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090415075150.htm)

Here's a pic from the article you linked:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2009/04/090415075150-large.jpg

Here's ancient Kazaria:

http://www.smuggling-with-jesus.com/images/kazaria3334.jpg

Silver Shield
10th October 2010, 05:28 AM
Question everything.