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ShortJohnSilver
9th October 2010, 02:49 PM
OK a bit of historical perspective needed here...
Saw a TV episode which tangentially mentioned swingers and "key parties" where each guy puts his car keys in a bowl or bag, then each woman picks a key - which determines who she goes home with.
How prevalent was this kind of debauchery in the 1970s? Surely it was a subculture, yet that it is mentioned often indicates it was beyond being just a tiny fringe movement.
Gaillo
9th October 2010, 03:47 PM
Apparently, it's not limited to the '70s. About 6 years ago, when Henny Penny and I still lived in the city, a co-worker of hers invited the two of us to a "key party"... neither of us knew what it meant, we had to Google it to figure out what we had been invited to. Needless to say, we declined the invite... :o
hoarder
9th October 2010, 06:56 PM
Just another usurpation of our culture fomented by Hollywood.
They took us all the way from square dancing to pimp-worshipping in just 40 years.
Never understimate the power of teevee.
EE_
9th October 2010, 07:05 PM
I can't answer your question because I am too young, but I do remember a Mary Tyler Moore TV episode of all things that mentioned orgies!
Also remember that the 70's will forever be known as the decade of very hairy muffs. Clean shaven "designer" snatch did not come into vogue until the mid to late 80's.
Some of the gals from the 70's looked like Oscar Gamble below the belt.
:o
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silversurfer
9th October 2010, 07:13 PM
for some reason this article popped into my mind...
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Ex-playmate reveals nasty details of Hugh Hefner’s sex sessions
An ex Playmate has self-published a book about what goes on at the bizarre sex sessions at the Playboy mansion. She says that if you’re a hot nobody and want to get into Playboy without riding the then 78 year-old Hugh Hefner’s six inch Viagra erection, you can forget about it.
From her description, Hefner’s evening sex romps sound more like a freaky ritual than a fun-filled free for all. Here are the highlights:
Women who live in the house must show up for Wednesday and Friday sex night. They are given rare exemptions in the case of major surgery (like a nose job), but if it’s that time of the month or they’re sick, they’re still expected to come. Even Heffner’s secretary has to participate.
Hefner invites women into his lair. The night the source was there, 12 women were in the room. Each must bathe and wear identical pink pajamas. If they don’t want to have sex with the 78 year-old perv, they can leave their pajama bottoms on.
Gay porn plays on two big screen TVs in the room.
On the night the source was there, Heff got a hummer from his current girlfriend to start the action. 10 of the 12 girls then took turns having sex with him, taking about two minutes each while the other participants cheered him on. He took Viagra to perform and did not wear a condom.
Women paired up for simulated lesbian sex for Heff’s benefit, but according to the source most of them weren’t into it and didn’t even like each other.
The session ended with him having anal sex with the girlfriend, who wiped off his penis beforehand, as if that did something to prevent STDs.
In terms of what sex with Hef actually entails, it sounds like it’s strictly women on top:
How is a man who’s 78 years old able to have sex with that many women?
He doesn’t really do anything. He just lies there with his Viagra erection. It’s just a fake erection, and each girl gets on top of him for two minutes while the girls in the background try to keep him excited. They’ll yell things like, “F-k her daddy, f-k her daddaddy!” There’s a lot of cheerleader going on!
Playmates are discouraged from talking about Hefner’s orgies through ongoing business deals with Playboy enterprises, including invitations to parties and ex-playmate get togethers, where they are paid for their appearance. There’s a code of silence around it because to reveal details would jeopardize their future earnings.
Strippers and lesser known porn stars get in Playboy by sleeping with Hef in these prearranged orgies, and the source claims that no woman has ever made playmate of the year without playing along at the sex sessions.
It looks like the answer to Bastardly’s question “Would you sleep with a dude the age of your grandpa for $3,000,000?” has been answered a lot of the Playboy playmates, who would do it for fame and much less money.
Update: Hugh Hefner is just shy of 81 at this point, as commenter Jenna points out. He was born April 9, 1926 according to Wikipedia. He also spells his name with one F, not two.
http://www.celebitchy.com/2635/ex-playmate_reveals_nasty_details_of_hugh_heffners_se x_sessions/
Book
9th October 2010, 07:57 PM
http://www.thecobrasnose.com/images6/swinger1.jpg
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00747/numain_747400a.jpg
http://swns.com/brtains-oldest-swingers-have-enjoyed-more-than-300-wild-parties-since-the-70s-071130.html
You won't be seeing any babes from the Playboy Mansion at your local Swinger Party.
:ROFL:
ShortJohnSilver
9th October 2010, 08:10 PM
http://www.thecobrasnose.com/images6/swinger1.jpg
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00747/numain_747400a.jpg
http://swns.com/brtains-oldest-swingers-have-enjoyed-more-than-300-wild-parties-since-the-70s-071130.html
You won't be seeing any babes from the Playboy Mansion at your local Swinger Party.
:ROFL:
Somehow the term "reeeeccchhh CorINTHian leaatherrrr" came to mind ...
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silversurfer
9th October 2010, 08:24 PM
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twins!
every man's ultimate fantasy
Half Sense
9th October 2010, 08:49 PM
I knew a guy who was one of the original California swingers back in the 50's. He and his wife practically invented that scene. His wife died, but at age 75 he had a Rolodex full of swingers and was still active. He slept outside by the pool and rarely wore clothes. I played backgammon with him while his nuts dangled through the lawn chair webbing. I knew the young woman who took care of his pool & landscaping. After he'd had his hormone shots, he would chase her around the pool sporting a boner.
Neuro
10th October 2010, 01:00 AM
I knew a guy who was one of the original California swingers back in the 50's. He and his wife practically invented that scene. His wife died, but at age 75 he had a Rolodex full of swingers and was still active. He slept outside by the pool and rarely wore clothes. I played backgammon with him while his nuts dangled through the lawn chair webbing. I knew the young woman who took care of his pool & landscaping. After he'd had his hormone shots, he would chase her around the pool sporting a boner.
Did he pay well, or did she just do it for the fun? :oo-->
Hillbilly
10th October 2010, 01:30 AM
I think swingers get a bad rap. I've known more than a few and almost all were very nice people.
Silver Shield
10th October 2010, 05:18 AM
Key parties are still going on in Summit NJ which is a very wealthy community of Wall St types.
A very good friend and his wife was invited to one of these two years ago before I left.
To understand this, these "couples" are couples in name only. They married each other to complete their checklist on the perfect life. They had their kids and then got a professional trainer and nanny. The men rob us obsessively on wall st. The wives spend their ill gotten gains in the Short Hills mall. They would nit get divorced because this partnership has no emotion into to get to that level.
The collapse of the dollar paradigm is going to put a crimp in their sex lives and cause a lot of divorces.
EE_
10th October 2010, 05:26 AM
I think swingers get a bad rap. I've known more than a few and almost all were very nice people.
Hillbilly swingers: Your neighbor comes to your home and introduces you to his pretty wife and sister...and there is only one women standing there.
Does this count?
Libertarian_Guard
10th October 2010, 05:29 AM
Just another usurpation of our culture fomented by Hollywood.
They took us all the way from square dancing to pimp-worshipping in just 40 years.
Never understimate the power of teevee.
Hoarder
Hollywood and t.v. may have somehow played into this, but I am not sure which came first here. Greeks & Romans of old played these games as well.
EE_
10th October 2010, 05:54 AM
Sex Plague
Dr. Lasha Darkmoon
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-Sex-Plague.html
Half Sense
10th October 2010, 07:59 AM
I knew a guy who was one of the original California swingers back in the 50's. He and his wife practically invented that scene. His wife died, but at age 75 he had a Rolodex full of swingers and was still active. He slept outside by the pool and rarely wore clothes. I played backgammon with him while his nuts dangled through the lawn chair webbing. I knew the young woman who took care of his pool & landscaping. After he'd had his hormone shots, he would chase her around the pool sporting a boner.
Did he pay well, or did she just do it for the fun? :oo-->
He paid well. I don't think he ever caught her. She was a nudist but not a swinger.
BrewTech
10th October 2010, 08:42 AM
Nudism is cool, but I wouldn't be into the swinging thing.... However, if all parties are adults and there is no force or fraud, it's all good AFAIAC (for others).
Hillbilly
10th October 2010, 12:17 PM
Nah, the swingers were my Big City Friends. Nice folks all happily married.
I think swingers get a bad rap. I've known more than a few and almost all were very nice people.
Hillbilly swingers: Your neighbor comes to your home and introduces you to his pretty wife and sister...and there is only one women standing there.
Does this count?
EE_
10th October 2010, 01:56 PM
Nah, the swingers were my Big City Friends. Nice folks all happily married.
From Mount Pilot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI1aGfjqVb0
JDRock
11th October 2010, 09:27 AM
I knew a guy who was one of the original California swingers back in the 50's. He and his wife practically invented that scene. His wife died, but at age 75 he had a Rolodex full of swingers and was still active. He slept outside by the pool and rarely wore clothes. I played backgammon with him while his nuts dangled through the lawn chair webbing. I knew the young woman who took care of his pool & landscaping. After he'd had his hormone shots, he would chase her around the pool sporting a boner.
hahhahahaa too funny ;D
JDRock
11th October 2010, 09:31 AM
Just another usurpation of our culture fomented by Hollywood.
They took us all the way from square dancing to pimp-worshipping in just 40 years.
Never understimate the power of teevee.
Hoarder
Hollywood and t.v. may have somehow played into this, but I am not sure which came first here. Greeks & Romans of old played these games as well.
big difference,as America was a really upright monogamous culture before tv. ( greeks and romans were fvked up from the start.....there were exeptions, but they were that;exeptions.....plus the protocols clearly points out their mission to DESTROY that social order which was America and replace it whith what we have now.
Light
11th October 2010, 09:32 AM
Goober was gay for Gomer.
Libertarian_Guard
11th October 2010, 10:27 AM
Just another usurpation of our culture fomented by Hollywood.
They took us all the way from square dancing to pimp-worshipping in just 40 years.
Never understimate the power of teevee.
Hoarder
Hollywood and t.v. may have somehow played into this, but I am not sure which came first here. Greeks & Romans of old played these games as well.
big difference,as America was a really upright monogamous culture before tv. ( greeks and romans were fvked up from the start.....there were exeptions, but they were that;exeptions.....plus the protocols clearly points out their mission to DESTROY that social order which was America and replace it whith what we have now.
Can I expand you line of thought here to include all forms of sexual promiscuity as being somehow related to the “protocols”?
If so, I can’t see much truth in this, as the genesis of expanded & complex sexual relations predates “the jews” by at least a million years.
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