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EE_
18th October 2010, 04:54 PM
as a Jewish state...show us all the map!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/16/alan-hart-yes-indeed-show-us-all-the-map/

sirgonzo420
18th October 2010, 04:58 PM
If the israelis really got pressed for a map, they could just point to a globe.

:soap

PatColo
18th October 2010, 05:19 PM
If the israelis really got pressed for a map, they could just point to a globe.

:soap


yeah! this should be their flag,


http://solari.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/giant_squid.jpg

Recall Alan Hart (OP author) is the BBC guy who says publicly that mossad did 911 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/ex-bbc-mideast-reporter-says-on-air-israel-did-9-11/).

Another angle is, there is a fraudulent meme TPTB propagate in the US about how Israel is our "ally" in the MidEast. But this is not true- alliances are based upon treaties, and we have none with Israel. The reason for that is, treaties require defined national borders, which Izzy stubbornly refuses to define, for reasons we can only imagine. :oo-->

palani
18th October 2010, 07:16 PM
“We officially demand that the US administration and the Israeli government provide a map of the borders of the state of Israel which they want us to recognise.”

Never going to happen. Borders has nothing to do with the state concept. A state is a body politic, a group of people banded together for their own protection and self-interest.

In the U.S. there are no "several states" anymore. There is only the concept of "this state" which is defined in Washington code as


RCW 82.04.200
"In this state," "within this state."

"In this state" or "within this state" includes all federal areas lying within the exterior boundaries of the state.

or even more telling this snippet from the Texas penal code


Sec. 1.04. TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. (a) This state has jurisdiction over an offense that a person commits by his own conduct or the conduct of another for which he is criminally responsible ...
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(d) This state includes the land and water and the air space above the land and water over which this state has power to define offenses.

which has absolutely no territorial boundaries. In addition the Texas definition of "this state" actually includes NO people (have a look and see if you can find any).

In other words, the problem is not where the boundaries of a state begin and end, rather the problem is that there is no boundary at all which TERMINATES a states jurisdiction: a one-world one-state concept.

Book
18th October 2010, 09:33 PM
The reason for that is, treaties require defined national borders, which Izzy stubbornly refuses to define, for [color=red]reasons we can only imagine.



http://fasttimesinpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/four-panel-map.jpg

The jewish tumor continues to grow upon Palestine. They call it "settlements" so this is why they refuse to define their border.

:D

Ponce
18th October 2010, 10:28 PM
Let's face it, unless there is a WWIII there will be no free Palestine.......the Arab world is waiting for a payback to the Zionist Israelis and it will be a beauty........and if there is a WWIII there will be a Palestine once again and no state of Israel........is not what life gives you but what you take from life.