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Gaillo
23rd October 2010, 03:04 PM
Lots of recent threads have been posted on GS-US about the benefits of Coconut oil. I did some research, and found a good source for bulk oil:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/virgin_coconut_oil.htm?s=gad&gclid=CNDc2tH-6aQCFRhrgwodx1YHzw

I'm ordering some on Monday, probably 5 gallons.

MAGNES
23rd October 2010, 03:17 PM
Wow very expensive. Read some of it, how they manufacture, sounds good.

Using olive oil regularly in salad is very good for you, look it up.

Flax Seed Oil
Large Sarge put us on a diet on agora, it kinda worked,
flax seed oil diet, great for the mind, body, muscle.
High Omega 3 content. Bodybuilders use it too.
Made me very thirsty and I did not gain weight
over the holidays. Others reported thirst too.
Breaking down of fat was evident.

Carl's Cod Liver Oil, Norway, strong, pure,

Gaillo
23rd October 2010, 03:20 PM
Wow very expensive. Read some of it, how they manufacture, sounds good.

Using olive oil regularly in salad is very good for you, look it up.

Flax Seed Oil
Large Sarge put us on a diet on agora, it kinda worked,
flax seed oil diet, great for the mind, body, muscle.
High Omega 3 content. Bodybuilders use it too.
Made me very thirsty and I did not gain weight
over the holidays. Others reported thirst too.
Breaking down of fat was evident.

Other fish Oils, used Carls , very strong.


Actually, $119 for 5 gallons is not that bad a price for ANY kind of cooking oil... and Coconut oil seems to have health and antibiotic properties that most other oils lack. Here are 2 recent links posted on GS-US about the benefits of Coconut oil:


Coconut Oil and Alzheimer's Disease (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/coconut-oil-and-alzheimers-disease/)
Coconut Oil is a Powerful Virus Destroyer and Antibiotic (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/this-cooking-oil-is-a-powerful-virus-destroyer-and-antibiotic/)

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 03:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO0E5UzZBJM

palani
23rd October 2010, 03:32 PM
Bone up on Karack therapy ... oil pulling .. take a tablespoon of coconut oil in the mouth and swish it around for as long as you like. Pulls toxins out of the body over time.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=108630

Probably want to use the highest grade oil you can get for this though.

Liquid
23rd October 2010, 03:34 PM
Actually, $119 for 5 gallons is not that bad a price for ANY kind of cooking oil... and Coconut oil seems to have health and antibiotic properties that most other oils lack. Here are 2 recent links posted on GS-US about the benefits of Coconut oil:


Coconut Oil and Alzheimer's Disease (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/coconut-oil-and-alzheimers-disease/)
Coconut Oil is a Powerful Virus Destroyer and Antibiotic (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/this-cooking-oil-is-a-powerful-virus-destroyer-and-antibiotic/)


Gaillo, keep us posted on how you like it!

Informative articles, I'll have to try coconut oil. I eat 4 eggs every morning, and cook them with extra virgin olive oil, I didn't know I was losing the health benefits by heating the oil. I'll have to try cooking eggs with coconut oil.

milehi
23rd October 2010, 03:34 PM
I get mine here. Well, actually the girl up the street makes homemade soaps and lotion and orders it for me.

thesage.com

look under fixed oil.

5 lbs Coconut Oil $14.25
25 lbs Coconut Oil $54.00
50 lbs Coconut Oil $94.00

StackerKen
23rd October 2010, 03:35 PM
what is the shelf life of coconut oil?

Do you think it would last longer in glass than it would in plastic?


I googled my question...(duh)

Q: What is the shelf life of coconut oil?

Refined coconut oil should last 1½ years without showing signs of rancidity. Virgin Oil de Coco-Crème from the modern wet-milling process has an indefinite shelf-life.* We have test samples of this oil from 1993, that are only beginning now to show traces of rancidity after 7 years.

*A properly purified unrefined coconut oil will keep much longer than refined oil and this applies to other vegetable oils as well. Unrefined oils contain natural anti-oxidant agents, which protect the oil against atmospheric oxidation and rancidity. However, if the crude (unrefined) oil is of poor quality and has sufficient impurities and moisture, it will undergo hydrolysis which in turn increases the free fatty acid content. The result of this is deterioration of taste and flavour. High quality crude oil can be achieved with proper selection of materials, process, and the nature of the plant species.

MAGNES
23rd October 2010, 03:39 PM
Actually, $119 for 5 gallons is not that bad a price for ANY kind of cooking oil... and Coconut oil seems to have health and antibiotic properties that most other oils lack. Here are 2 recent links posted on GS-US about the benefits of Coconut oil:


Thanks for links, read them.
The virgin is much more expensive. ;D
The health benefits sound good.
Flax seed oil is most expensive I ever paid for right after Carl's , more potent more expensive it seems.
Good oil is expensive I know, I pay this much for good virgin olive oil from right store, one gallon roughly. VS
Gold Label Virgin Coconut Oil
Certified Organic
1 pint (16 fl. oz.) - glass jar
Retail: $25.00
Now! - $19.95

I don't fry anything in my house.
It looks like a solid for frying.

Peanut oil is supposed to be good for you too.

Eating nuts is important too, essential oils, walnuts especially.

Personally I would try it but I wouldn't buy a lot for now.

Any feedback from people here trying it already ?

Shami-Amourae
23rd October 2010, 03:42 PM
I just got some yesterday and plan to cook with it next time I use oil. Will give feedback.

It's $6 per pound here (http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWF035/ItemDetail).

Liquid
23rd October 2010, 03:53 PM
Peanut oil is supposed to be good for you too.


Magnes, try peanut milk sometime, if you can find it. It's supposed to be very good for you, and it tastes fantastic.

http://www.peanutmilk.net/en/

I've tried peanut oil, I have a bottle, but don't see how you could cook with it. It has a very strong peanut taste to it.

StackerKen
23rd October 2010, 04:14 PM
I've tried peanut oil, I have a bottle, but don't see how you could cook with it. It has a very strong peanut taste to it.


I have deep fried a few turkeys in peanut oil...they didn't taste like peanuts

sirgonzo420
23rd October 2010, 04:28 PM
I've tried peanut oil, I have a bottle, but don't see how you could cook with it. It has a very strong peanut taste to it.


I have deep fried a few turkeys in peanut oil...they didn't taste like peanuts


No, if done correctly they taste like *awesome*.

Tumbleweed
23rd October 2010, 04:31 PM
I ordered a gallon and two quarts today or the virgin coconut oil from the same place. Did'nt want to get to much before I gave it a try. I like coconut but I've never tasted the oil.

vacuum
23rd October 2010, 05:17 PM
Got this, about $11.50 for 30 oz of the best stuff, shipped (using subscribe and save).

http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Virgin-Coconut-15-Ounce/dp/B001EO5Q64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287878598&sr=8-1

The tropical traditions stuff is ok, but from what I read its not as good as the nutiva stuff. TT does use small family farms to hand-make their gold label oil, but they are competing with the better technology nutiva uses.

This organic raw "extra" virgin oil is $0.38/oz shipped, whereas your refined oil is ($120 + $20.90 shipping for 640 oz) is $0.22/oz. Plus you have the inconvenience of a 5 gallon container, possible separation, etc.

edit: for comparison, 5 gallons of the gold-labeled oil, which competes with what I posted in terms of quality is $250.90 shipped or $0.38/oz when you buy 5 gallons.

Joe King
23rd October 2010, 06:07 PM
I bought some too. :D
Mine was $12 for 32oz

While I hate actual coconut, I gotta admit that the oil is pretty good. My dog loves it too. She thinks it's a treat.
I've been keeping it in the fridge, as I like the taste better when it's cold.

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 10:06 PM
Most coconut oil from the south seas that is called extra virgin is made with this machine developed by a guy in Canberra OZ.

http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 10:12 PM
Gotta love this,no break downs,no fuel costs and kid can drive it......

willie pete
23rd October 2010, 10:17 PM
^^^just have to be careful where you step following a carabao :D

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 10:19 PM
Plant-Oil Cooker a Great Success


Home appliances group Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte has developed an environmentally friendly cooker for Asia. A success story

By Sybille Wilhelm




Some 2.5 billion people – more than one third of the Earth’s population – prepare their food over an open fire. In other words, they use firewood, charcoal, kerosene or gas – all of them raw materials that are becoming scarcer and more expensive. Moreover, burning these fuels produces the greenhouse gas CO2, which contributes to climate change. Additionally, since the most readily available and cheapest fuel is wood, new problems arise as a result of deforestation: the land loses its natural protection against erosion, which can in turn lead to serious natural disasters. There were therefore good grounds for BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH – a joint venture founded by the two big-name German companies in 1967 – to seek an alternative to traditional fire-making: “We had long been investigating the idea of using plant oil to operate simple cookers,” says Samuel N. Shiroff, who is responsible for the project at BSH.

The first product of these efforts was the Protos plant-oil cooker, which was developed between the end of 2004 and April 2006 in collaboration with the Leyte State University in the Philippines and then tested in 100 households on the Philippine islands of Leyte and Samar. The practical trials were so successful that further projects are now running in other regions of the Philippines, India and Indonesia. “More than 1,000 cookers were operating in 2007,” says Shiroff. “Now, however, we have developed an even more powerful and more economical Protos model.” The inventors also have great expectations of Protos II: “We plan to produce several thousand of these next generation cookers in 2009.”

At a time when cars are being powered by biofuels, operating a cooker with plant oil doesn’t really sound particularly spectacular. But it is, nonetheless: “Developing a functional and viable oil cooker was a technological challenge,” says Shiroff. On one hand, the flash point of the viscous plant oil is 188 degrees Celsius, over one hundred degrees higher than that of kerosene, for example. On the other, sooty residues regularly clogged up the jets of the first test cookers. Researchers at the University of Hohenheim spent years trying to crack this “nut” – in vain, it initially seemed. “We were on the point of giving up,” recalls the project leader of the time, Professor Werner Mühlbauer. Yet his assistant Elmar Stumpf carried on experimenting until he found the ideal design. The oil cooker doesn’t produce soot, doesn’t smell, doesn’t explode and, importantly, because it no longer has any complex jets, doesn’t clog up at all either: if the jets get dirty, the 0.3 to 0.5 millimetre openings can easily be cleaned with a simple piece of wire.

The principle on which the new plant-oil cooker works is actually very simple. An air pump is used to build up the pressure in a tank filled with oil. This forces the oil into the stainless steel vaporizer tube where it is vaporized by the heat of the flame. The now gaseous fuel escapes through a jet, mixes with the ambient air in the combustion chamber and burns with a blue flame. The cook can easily adjust the strength of the flame using a valve in the oil pipe. When the cooker was ready, the German household appliances group pondered on who was going to produce the oil it needed to burn: “We had to ensure that the necessary plant oil was available everywhere,” reports Shiroff about the initial phase in the Philippines. “So we looked for a coconut cooperative that was willing to work with us. Now the farmers sell their oil directly and even achieve higher revenues than before.”

The exceptional cooker can operate with unrefined and refined plant oils, such as coconut oil, sunflower oil, rapeseed oil, jatropha oil, castor oil, cottonseed oil and peanut oil – in other words, with replenishable raw materials from the regions in which it is used. “We’ve made it a rule only to sell the cooker in regions where using oils as fuel will not have any detrimental effects on the environment or human nutrition,” clarifies the BSH press office. In addition to that, the German home appliances group is also pursuing the strategy of having the Protos produced locally as far as possible. As part of the three-year test phase, workshops in the Philippines were selected to produce the cookers and train specialists to promote and sell the Protos as well as familiarize roughly 1,000 households with the cooker. Today some 1,500 cookers a year can be manufactured in the Philippines. In addition to the economic and social advantages, the German-developed plant-oil cooker also reduces damage to the environment. Cooking with plant oil is largely carbon neutral. Because the cooker does not run on fossil fuel, each unit saves one tonne of CO2 emissions a year.

http://www.magazine-deutschland.de/en/artikel-en/article/article/pflanzenoelkocher-ein-grosser-erfolg.html

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 10:20 PM
^^^just have to be careful where you step following a carabao :D


Oh yea and fertilizer..... ;D

Serpo
23rd October 2010, 11:18 PM
The reason I am so into coconut oil is that about 1 year ago I went to visit a friend of mine who had met a lovely lady in the Philippines and had a child with her.I go over to visit and we meet a guy who had studied coconuts for 20 years and had developed his own oil processing plant and he showed it to us.After showing it to us we mentioned that we where interested in growing coconuts to develop the oil.He explained about dwarf types of trees they had developed .One oil producing hybrid can produce up to 200 coconuts a year,double the normal tall type.He then goes on to mention that coconut sugar is the way to go from here and one dwarf type can produce up to 3.7L of sap which is more then a normal tree and its a lot shorter as with making coconut sugar they have to climb the tree ect,meaning the tall ones are too labor intensive.
So the up shot is that we are growing coconuts over there which have just been planted of the sugar type.They can also produce coconuts of course which will be used to extract the oil which will run the coconut oil cookers that will be needed to process the sap into syrup and then sugar.This whole thing is a lot of fun and am going over there next Friday to check out the young trees.They planted some other ones(talls) before this idea which got eaten by pigs.They up rooted them out of the ground as up to 8 months after planting the coconut is still intact and feeding the tree,after that there is no worries.Havnt had a problem like that this time as there is a caretaker on site ect.Did have a small problem with monkeys pulling out the newly planted ones at one stage ,cheeky things.So its not all smooth sailing but boy do things grow fast in the tropics and these dwarf types take 3 years as opposed to 7 for talls to begin producing.
That bullock or carabuo photo is exactly what we will need one day( thanks for that Gaillo) as being highly mechanised isnt an advantage over there.Cost of fuel is very high in a relative sense as it is very inexpensive of course to live there.
So have been studying the ol coconut a lot lately and am amazed at what it can do and the wide amount of uses it has ,it is called the tree of life.
One little secret I would like to share is that this coconut sugar is amazing stuff,as is the oil but in the process of making the sugar the first step is to make the syrup.Now if you can find a shop that sells this ,try it ,as is more than delicious(hard to find) and very good for you also.In a few years time there is going to be a lot more of this sugar available but at the moment it is limited,just like the coconut oil was not long ago.One other amazing fact about the coconut tree is that they grow better near the coast and so they found a few years back that by adding salt,about 1.5 Kg a tree per year to the base gave bigger and better coconuts.There is a certain fertilizer which is better than this now but the fact is all we would have to do is add 50L of salt water to a tree to get better and bigger nuts,crazy isnt it.Salt is probably hard to come by over there in large amounts in certain areas so I thought why not sea water,havnt done this yet as will need to discuss more with the expert.
So there you have and just this past week I have decided also to cook in nothing but coco oil(gotta get it past the wife which is always a challenge) from now on and use the olive oil to be taken raw.And Gaillos idea of buying bulk is good and did inspire me to do the same.Yes it keeps for 2 years but could also be used after that time for a bit.
If you study this topic too much there is a chance that you can turn coconutty.haha

Thanks for listening.

Bigjon
24th October 2010, 06:36 AM
^^^just have to be careful where you step following a carabao :D


Nahhhh, cow shit squeezed between your toes feels good, therapeutic, good for what ails you... as Jerry would say take off your shoes and live a little. I remember that from being a kid down on the farm.

Slogging through cow shit up to your knees is a real pain though.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
24th October 2010, 07:39 PM
I used to do a process called 'Oil Pulling' which is a process of swishing a bit of oil (and I used coconut or sesame) in my mouth for ~20 min each morning and then spitting it.

It pulled all the fat soluble toxins out of my saliva, and also sublingually and at the gum line.

My teeth got whiter and I coughed up a lot of mucus out of my lungs (personal problem, lifelong lung issues)

Well after 6 months I started getting better, and after 12 months I was no longer on ANY synthetic medication! Previously, I had been on daily medication for my entire life! (Inhaler for lungs)

That's right, 12 months of oil pulling COMPLETELY cured me! This was a problem for me since birth, and the last three years have been heaven. My lung problems have NOT come back!

My whole life, I needed an adrenaline based inhaler 2-4x/day. Now, only ~2 times in the last 3 years!!

So in short, fresh oils from plants are amazing, especially as a chelation/elimination agent, as detailed above. Research Term: Oil Pulling Testimonials

P.S. It's just vegetable oil, nobody gets rich, there is no incentive to lie to you.

Filthy Keynes
24th October 2010, 07:54 PM
Oh, I just saw this

KOKO-nut-JAMBO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOrc37wNUqU

lapis
24th October 2010, 08:00 PM
Flax Seed Oil
Large Sarge put us on a diet on agora, it kinda worked,
flax seed oil diet, great for the mind, body, muscle.
High Omega 3 content.

FSO is great, but keep in mind that it only contains the omega-3 fatty acid ALA (alpha-linolenic acid), which your body, under optimal conditions, converts into small amounts of DHA and EPA.

The latter two omega-3 fatty acids are only in animal foods, and expensive algae supplements.



Using olive oil regularly in salad is very good for you, look it up.

It's the only vegetable oil I use besides palm and coconut oil. As good as it is though, it still contains about 1.5 grams of polyunsaturated omega-6 fatty acids per tablespoon.

There's no sense taking cod liver oil or other omega-3 supplements if you're consuming a lot of omega-6s, because then your omega-3 to omega-6 ratio will become distorted.

Ideally we're supposed to have as close to a 1-to-1 ratio as possible; however, most people eating modern processed foods have more like a 1-to-20 or 60 ratio.


Carl's Cod Liver Oil, Norway, strong, pure,


Did you mean Carlson's? ;)

I only use Green Pasture's unfermented cod liver oil. It's the only one I've gotten results from (tooth ache, recovery from colds, etc.).

I've also met the owner of the company, Dave Wetzel. He walks his talk, and makes his kids take fclo every day. I like the fact that I'm supporting a small American business.

www.greenpasture.org/

Virgin coconut oil and Green Pasture CLO can be expensive, but you can often get a discount if you buy in bulk.

See if there's a local Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader in your town; they often order these and other good foods in bulk with other WAPF members.

http://www.westonaprice.org/chapters/index.php

Shami-Amourae
26th October 2010, 08:33 PM
I just got some yesterday and plan to cook with it next time I use oil. Will give feedback.


Made some Thai Chicken Fried Rice. I took a picture of the ingredients and the final product. Turned out better with the coconut oil (taste and hotter cooking.)

Ingredients:

Coconut oil
Cooked rice (Day old in refrigerator)
Chicken thigh meat
Chopped Thai chilies
Chopped garlic
Red bell peppers
Basil
Fish sauce
Oyster sauce

milehi
26th October 2010, 08:42 PM
I just got some yesterday and plan to cook with it next time I use oil. Will give feedback.


Made some Thai Chicken Fried Rice. I took a picture of the ingredients and the final product. Turned out better with the coconut oil (taste and hotter cooking.)

Ingredients:

Coconut oil
Cooked rice (Day old in refrigerator)
Chicken thigh meat
Chopped Thai chilies
Chopped garlic
Red bell peppers
Basil
Fish sauce
Oyster sauce




I had that for lunch at my favorite Thai place. They call it Thai Basil, and besides tons of Thai chiles, I dump their blended apple/tomatillo/Thai pepper salsa all over.

vacuum
25th February 2012, 12:58 AM
Just bought 4 of these:
(Vitacost Extra Virgin Certified Organic Coconut Oil -- 54 fl oz for $16.07)
http://www.amazon.com/Vitacost-Virgin-Certified-Organic-Coconut/dp/B0044MTGHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330160247&sr=8-1

Since I spent over $49, shipping was free. So it came out to $0.30/oz.

muffin
25th February 2012, 05:46 AM
one of the reviewers on that amazon link said they use the coconut oil instead of butter on their toast. i wonder if you could straight-up swap out the butter for coconut oil.... that's a good deal, vacuum. thanks.

PlatinumBlonde
25th February 2012, 06:36 AM
I often put coconut oil on my toast, it's delish!

BrewTech
25th February 2012, 06:47 AM
Coconut oil is a staple here at the house. Great to eat, and put in one's hair! Oh, and it goes a long way towards curing skin allergies.

Twisted Titan
25th February 2012, 11:26 AM
Great thread .....tagging

Serpo
25th February 2012, 11:30 AM
one of the reviewers on that amazon link said they use the coconut oil instead of butter on their toast. i wonder if you could straight-up swap out the butter for coconut oil.... that's a good deal, vacuum. thanks.

Yes you can, I have, but some people can not give up butter





Coconut oil may be able to reverse the progression of Alzheimer's disease

http://www.naturalnews.com/035045_coconut_oil_Alzheimers_brain_function.html

TheNocturnalEgyptian
25th February 2012, 11:49 AM
I've been oil pulling with coconut oil lately. It's okay. The texture is a little weird.

Honestly I like sesame the best for oil pulling. That is what gave me personally the best results.

I use coconut for all kinds of stuff, however. It's great.

lapis
25th February 2012, 02:44 PM
Honestly I like sesame the best for oil pulling. That is what gave me personally the best results.

I think that's the oil traditionally used for this technique. But some people claim they get good results with coconut oil too.

I go through periods where I get tired of the smell. I like it best in desserts and curry dishes.

sirgonzo420
25th February 2012, 04:13 PM
I just joined the club. I caved into the peer pressure and bought some at the store today.

osoab
25th February 2012, 04:21 PM
I just joined the club. I caved into the peer pressure and bought some at the store today.

I did the same. How much did you get and at what price? If you don't mind me asking.

sirgonzo420
25th February 2012, 05:34 PM
I did the same. How much did you get and at what price? If you don't mind me asking.

I could probably find better oil for cheaper elsewhere, but I was already in the store and instant gratification ruled the day.

14 oz jar of "Spectrum Expeller Pressed Organic Coconut Oil" for $5.98.

osoab
25th February 2012, 05:53 PM
I could probably find better oil for cheaper elsewhere, but I was already in the store and instant gratification ruled the day.

14 oz jar of "Spectrum Expeller Pressed Organic Coconut Oil" for $5.98.

I was down in Amish territory today and picked some up so I was curious.

I bought, no name, packed by the store in a 2 lb grocery store deli plastic jar of 1.91 lbs @ 3.39/lb for $6.47.

I was just comparing prices. All the label says is Pure Coconut Oil.

My bigger question is what do I do with it. ???

Serpo
25th February 2012, 08:27 PM
I was down in Amish territory today and picked some up so I was curious.

I bought, no name, packed by the store in a 2 lb grocery store deli plastic jar of 1.91 lbs @ 3.39/lb for $6.47.

I was just comparing prices. All the label says is Pure Coconut Oil.

My bigger question is what do I do with it. ???

Try and consume 3tsp a day of it somehow and in some way.
Rubbing into skin is OK ,hair if you have any.Put it on toast or anything you used butter for replace with coconut oil,baking ect.Frying.

Its also good for diabetics in that it improves their condition.

Cheapest way to buy it is bulk and have nearly consumed 20L bucket over a year or so.One thing about getting this much is that it feels good to use it and you cant get enough of a good thing.

Its sometimes rock hard in cold weather and at some temps can be soft like butter or if hotter it can turn to liquid.

vacuum
25th February 2012, 08:54 PM
Cheapest way to buy it is bulk
Just want to point out that the virgin organic oil I posted is approximately the same cost per oz as tropical traditions 5 gallon bucket of expeller pressed organic oil. $0.30/oz vs $0.29/oz when you include shipping.

Golden
25th February 2012, 10:22 PM
I was down in Amish territory today and picked some up so I was curious.

I bought, no name, packed by the store in a 2 lb grocery store deli plastic jar of 1.91 lbs @ 3.39/lb for $6.47.

I was just comparing prices. All the label says is Pure Coconut Oil.

My bigger question is what do I do with it. ???

Use it regularly! Eat it, apply it topically, teeth pull with it, use it on scars, rashes, etc. the list goes on.
I'll post with depth tomorrow, i need some sssleep.

Hatha Sunahara
26th February 2012, 10:03 AM
I use coconut oil regularly for its health benefits. I know it fell out of favor when the soybean industry told some big whopper lies about it so people wouldn't use it in the late 1950s ande early 1960s. What I find very interesting is that the government never made it illegal--like what they have done with raw milk.

I've also noticed that a lot of margarines that have abandoned using hydrogenated trans-fats in their products have turned to coconut oil as a substitute. I still refuse to buy margarine that has coconut oil because I am absolutely sure that they do some unhealthy processing to the coconut oil to negate all its benefits before they put it into their products.



Hatha

lapis
27th February 2012, 12:00 AM
I know it fell out of favor when the soybean industry told some big whopper lies about it so people wouldn't use it in the late 1950s ande early 1960s.

You can read the whole sordid story about the rise in the use of vegetable oils and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils in "The Oiling of America (http://www.drcranton.com/nutrition/oiling.htm)."

In the late 70s, researcher Dr. Mary Enig got a paper (accidentally) published about their dangers, much to the consternation of organizations like the National Association of Margarine Manufacturers and the Institute for Shortening and Edible Oils (ISEO).

Enig’s paper sent alarm bells through the industry. In early 1979, she received a visit from S. F. Reipma of the National Association of Margarine Manufacturers. Short, bald and pompous, Reipma was visibly annoyed. He explained that both his association and the Institute for Shortening and Edible Oils (ISEO) kept careful watch to prevent articles like Enig’s from appearing in the literature. Enig’s paper should never have been published, he said. He thought that ISEO was "watching out."

"We left the barn door open," he said, "and the horse got out."

Reipma also challenged Enig’s use of the USDA data, claiming that it was in error. He knew it was in error, he said, "because we give it to them." [Can you imagine the arrogance.]

A few weeks later, Reipma paid a second visit, this time in the company of Thomas Applewhite, an advisor to the ISEO and representative of Kraft Foods, Ronald Simpson with Central Soya and an unnamed representative from Lever Brothers. They carried with them—in fact, waved them in the air in indignation—a two-inch stack of newspaper articles, including one that appeared in the National Enquirer, reporting on Enig’s Federation Proceedings article. Applewhite’s face flushed red with anger when Enig repeated Reipma’s statement that "they had left the barn door open and a horse got out," and his admission that Department of Agriculture food data had been sabotaged by the margarine lobby.
This is a long article that goes into how these kinds of organizations along with their lawyers and lobbyists get disgusting junk accepted as food and made legal to sell despite evidence of harm. And keep in mind this just describes vegetable oils. Never mind GMOs, food dyes, artificial flavors, etc. etc.

Golden
27th February 2012, 07:41 AM
From: Coconut Cures, Preventing and Treating Common Health Problems with Coconut
by Bruce Fife, N.D.
(pages 6-8 )

Foreword by Conrado S. Dayrit, M.D., F.A.C.C., F.P.C.C., F.P.C.P.
Emeritus Professor of Pharmacology, UP College of Medicine

"If medium-chain triglycerides of coconut oil are good for prematures, infants and children, for convalescents, elderly and athletes, how can coconut oil be bad." This intriguing observation of Dr. Bruce Fife set him on his search and eventual enlightenment on the real facts about coconut oil, hidden in journals that few physicians read. In this book, Dr, Fife's fourth on the virtues of coconut, he reviews the many varied health effects of coconut and in particularly coconut oil and the cures it can do.
The most remarkable property of coconut oil is that while it is a food, it also is an antibiotic, an immuno-enhancer, and a drug that regulates the body's function and defense mechanisms. It restores the normal balance of tissues of cells that have become "dysfunctional."
As a food, it is nutritious, safe and can be taken almost ad libitum. It provides energy and nutrition not only by itself but also by promoting the absorption of other foods particularly fat-soluble vitamins (A,D,E, and K) and minerals (calcium, magnesium, iron).
At the same time, it is a powerful drug that is non-toxic. It protects the body from infectious agents (viruses, bacteria, yeasts, fungi, protozoa, worms)-it can kill them. In other words, it is an antibiotic with the widest spectrum of action of all antipathogens. And it causes no harmful side effects. No resistance against it has been shown to develop. What a gift from nature!
And this isn't all-it's just the beginning. Coconut oil is an immunoregulator, a defense regulator, and a function regulator. It makes the body work better, metabolize better, defend better, heal better. Chronic diseases like diabetes, asthma, atherosclerosis, hypertension, arthritis, Alzheimer's, autoimmune diseases like Crohn's, psoriasis, Sjogren's, even cancer are subdued and become much easier to normalize, at lower doses or even suspension of usual therapies. All these disease conditions are inflammatory in nature.
Inflammation, characterized by various white cells attracted to a site of infection or derangement, is the body's mechanism for defense or for readjustment and healing. When successful, the inflammation subsides by itself. But when unsuccessful, as often is the case, the inflammation persists, becomes chronic, and eventually, becomes the disease itself producing the symptoms and complications.
How do we attempt to treat? We study the basic etiology, of course, and remedy if we can. Most of the time, we fail and we treat symptomatically; we also try to reduce the inflammatory process (Vioxx tried that, caused inflammation elsewhere and has now been withdrawn from the market). The body's inflammatory process is a very complex unbalancing (dysfunction) of pro- and anti-mechanisms, pro and anti substances (cytokines), whose various actions we are still trying to decipher. Interleukins (more than a dozen types), Tumor-necrosis factors (various types), interferons (also of various types), etc. are secreted by macrophages, polymorphonuclear granulocytes, T-cells, B-cells, killer cells, helper cells, plasma cells. The body has an arsenal that can make the U.S. defense forces green with envy. Unfortunately, we, owners of such a body, are still ignorant of what our Creator made for us.
So we go back to Nature for help. Here is the coconut tree and its fruit, the water, proteins and oil from its fruit where Nature appears to have created another arsenal, a defensive arsenal for us, His creatures. Here are growth factors, anti-inflammatory factors, regulatory factors ready for our use. There is now evidence for instance, that coconut oil inhibits (down-regulate is the modern term) pro-inflammatory cytokines (like IL-1, IL-6, IL-8 ) and stimulates (up-regulate) anti-inflammatory cytokines (like IL-10). This little finding gives us a little peak into why coconut oil can benefit such an unbelievably wide range of diseases.
"The drugstore in a bottle" is how coconut oil is now called in the Philippines where virgin coconut oil has been creating literally an "explosion" of the sick and not so sick treating every imaginable disease with this oil-and achieving, unbelievably rapid relief and cures. Success testimonials are coming by the hundreds, now thousands, emphasized significantly by "where can I get more of this virgin oil?" The supply can hardly catch up. Chapter 9 of this book is a wonderful A to Z reference of ailments curable by coconut oil and other coconut products.
Dr. Fife is asking for more testimonials. Here is one beauty not on his list yet: My cousin and classmate in UP Medical Class 1943 failed to attend our regular class reunions for sometime because of his Sjogren's Syndrome-a drying up of the skin and mucous membranes-mouth, throat, nose, eyes, and rectal mucosa. He had to drink water for every swallow, he lacked saliva; he had to use eye drops every hour to lubricate his eyes, he had to lubricate his skin and lips with baby oil to prevent cracking. At one reunion, he managed to attend; I gave him some bottles of virgin coconut oil for him to take 3 tablespoonfuls daily. The other night he phoned me to say that he is now 80-90 percent improved. He eats well, regained his weight, his skin has regained its turgor, and his eyes need only 2 or 3 drops of lubrication a day. Coconut oil alone did this "miracle" in just two months.
This wonderful oil was maligned for years as a contributor to heart disease because of its saturated fat content. The true fact is that the populations who take this oil daily in their food have little or no coronary heart disease-and no cancer, diabetes, or other chronic ailments. The "My Battle with Cancer" story (Chapter 3) tells of a woman who developed a very malignant and resistant breast cancer. She had no family hereditary cancer history, avoided coconut oil and saturated fats and took only what her doctor advised her-hydrogenated soybean oil and corn oil. Are the "good" vegetable oils, chosen for the Food Pyramid Program the real culprits in America's on-going health crisis of diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and cancer?
Knowledge comes from successes and failures. How coconut oil kills germs and regulates body functions, or how it may fail to do so, needs intensive and extensive studies. There is a world of research to be done. In the end, we should understand a little better, not the mystery of life, but how we can live a healthier life, so that when we reach the end of our life span (120-140 years) we die healthy.

SLV^GLD
27th February 2012, 07:45 AM
Just posting to add that coconut oil is the best for seasoning cast iron. Gently wash pan after cooking (if necessary), heat to drive off water, wipe with a small block of coconut oil, it seals right up at room temp.

madfranks
27th February 2012, 09:51 AM
I recently jumped on the coconut oil bandwagon also, but it actually wasn't because of this thread, it was because I read this article on lewrockwell.com:

Eat More of This Fat and You Might Slim Your Waist Size in One Week (http://lewrockwell.com/mercola/mercola166.html)

Then started researching it on my own and was sold.

Old Herb Lady
27th February 2012, 05:09 PM
I like to use it in herb salves .....



instead of the store bought schtuff
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