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Twisted Titan
24th October 2010, 12:10 AM
Oh this is starting to get fun now........... The Pirahas will soon be feeding on each other( Statve agency vs State agency)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-19/california-pension-promises-may-top-taxes-by-fivefold-milken-study-finds.html


California, which has the largest U.S. public-pension fund, faces liabilities that may exceed its annual state-tax revenue fivefold within two years unless lawmakers rein in benefits, according to a study.

To keep their promises to retirees, the California Public Employees Retirement System, the biggest plan, the California State Teachers Retirement System, the second-largest, and the University of California Retirement System may have combined liabilities of more than 5.5 times the state’s annual tax revenue by fiscal 2012, according to the study released today by the Milken Institute. Levies are forecast to reach about $89 billion in the year that began July 1.

Debts to government retirees including those in California, the biggest state by population, have grown into a national crisis as pension plans strive to meet obligations to more than 19 million active and retired firefighters, police officers, teachers and other state workers. Fewer than half the plans had assets to cover 80 percent of promised benefits in fiscal 2009, according to data compiled for last month’s Cities and Debt Briefing hosted by Bloomberg Link.

“California simply lacks the fiscal capacity to guarantee public-pension payments, particularly given the wave of state employees set to retire” in future years, said researchers Perry Wong and I-Ling Shen in the Milken report. “Structural shifts, coupled with the financial design and the accounting practices of state pension funds, all point to the fact that reform is imperative.”

Driven by Demographics

The state’s pension costs are being driven in part by demographics such as an aging workforce and longevity gains among retirees, as well as an increasing demand for government public services, the researchers said.

The study, ‘Addressing California’s Pension Shortfalls,’ based its conclusions on data from the UCRS, California Legislative Analyst’s Office and California’s Finance Department. It examined the ratio of the three pensions’ forecast unfunded liabilities to current assets, after accounting for state contributions.

To reduce costs, the Milken report recommends that California require public workers to contribute more to their pension funds and to retire later. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and lawmakers this month agreed to similar changes in a contract with the state’s largest union.

End Defined-Benefits

The study also suggests California should move to a so- called risk-sharing retirement plan. It would guarantee a basic pension while asking employees to bear the investment risks for part of their future benefits, similar to a 401(K) plan.

Such a change would reduce taxpayer liability when public funds lose money on their investments. Calpers lost more than $60 billion during the credit crisis of 2008 and 2009. The average five-year return on pension assets was about 3 percent for the most recently completed fiscal year, below the 7 percent or 8 percent benchmarks many states use, according to consulting firm Wilshire Associates.

“It’s no secret that the state of California lacks the resources to make huge infusions into state pension funds,” Wong and Shen said in the report. “The state government is trapped in its own budget crisis, at least in the short run, and future expenditures for public services and programs are expected to rise simply to keep up with demographic trends in the short- to medium-term.”

Schwarzenegger and California lawmakers agreed to cut state spending by $7.5 billion in a budget accord signed into law on Oct. 8, ending a 100-day impasse on how to close a $19.1 billion deficit. The Republican governor’s pension changes were part of his plan to cover the gap

Twisted Titan
24th October 2010, 12:14 AM
To reduce costs, the Milken report recommends that California require public workers to contribute more to their pension funds and to retire later


Yep that's gonna turn out reall good over here......... you can almost smell it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUayGEWM77w

Apparition
24th October 2010, 12:18 AM
Contribute more and retire later? Ha!

The unions and the welfarists would likely prefer to bankrupt the state instead of even considering solutions to the financial calamity.

The laws of economics cannot be understood by most lifelong parasites.

Horn
24th October 2010, 12:30 AM
Pension? What's a pension?

Still Barbaro
24th October 2010, 12:57 AM
Good find, TT.

And this 5-fold number is now and forecasted in the next 2 years.

After 2 years, this spread could widen.

The Piranhas analogy is quite accurate.

Perhaps it's a little Karma.....

cthulu
24th October 2010, 02:52 AM
No problem, just let big tobacco take over the medical marijuana industry so they can get everyone hooked. problem solved.

mick silver
24th October 2010, 03:15 AM
we all seen this coming a mile away and years ago ... it time for the states to pay up .... but as we all know there broke ... i just dont think the little people will set back and watch as they are taxes to death to pay for someone else way of life

mrnhtbr2232
24th October 2010, 07:31 AM
<b>I just don't think the little people will sit back and watch as they are taxed to death to pay for someone else way of life</b>


Now there's an optimist ;D

Here in California the problems are only getting worse. The last 15 budgets have all been tricks and deferrals while entrenched political interests in the Senate and Assembly both fight for their turf. The results speak for themselves - too many riding the gravy train at the peril of fiscal responsibility. Making taxpayers fork out for illegals, unions that own the legislature, and trendy initiatives that end up tying the hands of administrators is only the opening act. But hey, the Giants are going to the World Series, so for a week anyway everyone gets bread and circuses to distract them from the reality the patients are running the asylum.

gunDriller
24th October 2010, 07:49 AM
i think it's obvious that the pension liabilities vastly exceed what the state has to pay them.

plus the CALPERS pension fund is heavily invested in mortgage-backed securities, among other things.

there is no way the retired employees will agree to a cut in their benefits without California declaring bankruptcy.

if i was running for governor, i would advocate state bankruptcy and the re-negotiation of pension benefits.

Book
24th October 2010, 10:42 AM
Retiring State Pensioners would sell the Golden Gate Bridge and all the other infrastructure to China to keep the game going one more month.