FREEDOM

[Book]

FREEDOM

[SLV^GLD]

Why are you shitting in the firearms forum?

[Book]

Why are you sh*tting in the firearms forum?


Most men now are holding a teevee remote control not a revolver. I can't think of a better place to depict HOW we lost our Freedom.

:oo-->

[RJB]

LOL. I wonder if that poor couch potato has any clue as to how big of a celebrity he is on this forum.

[midnight rambler]

Hey Book, what EBR do YOU have?

[cedarchopper]

Anyway, that guy looks like a British slob, not an American slob...note the pint bottle of beer in his hand. :]

[ximmy]

Anyway, that guy looks like a British slob, not an American slob...note the pint bottle of beer in his hand. :]




I think he is scottish... a direct descendant of wallace

[cedarchopper]

Anyway, that guy looks like a British slob, not an American slob...note the pint bottle of beer in his hand. :]




I think he is scottish... a direct descendant of wallace


Which has no bearing on the condition of American Freedom.

[Gaillo]

This thread has a tenuous connection, if any, to Firearms.
I'm moving it to General Discussion.
-Gaillo

[chad]

whoops, i meant to thank the pic not the firearm comment. although, the correleation by book as to firearms/tv remote is a good one.

[midnight rambler]

So Book, why don't you tell us about your favorite liberty tool in your possession. Mine is a Norinco AK, the paragon of reliability. The action is buttery smooth.

[Book]

So Book, why don't you tell us about your favorite liberty tool in your possession.



Glock G19 with factory night sights. I think it is perfection and love it. Perfection.

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[midnight rambler]

So Book, why don't you tell us about your favorite liberty tool in your possession.



Glock G19 with factory night sights. I think it is perfection and love it. Perfection.

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Glocks are nice, I have a few myself.

However you can hardly defend liberty with a handgun, for that one needs a serious semi-auto rifle. What is your EBR? A M1A? A Garand? FAL? AK? CZ58? SKS? Daewoo? FNC? AR? AR-180? AR-10? CETME? What?

[ximmy]

Lets see if we can provoke Gaillo to move this thread to Firearms... :P :D

[Book]

This thread has a tenuous connection, if any, to Firearms.
I'm moving it to General Discussion.
-Gaillo



http://maskedmoviesnobs.blogspot.com/gatekeeperh.jpg

SLV^GLD should stop sending you complaining PMs now...lol.

:D

[Book]

Lets see if we can provoke Gaillo to move this thread to Firearms... :P :D



...back to Firearms where it was originally posted.

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[midnight rambler]

Lets see if we can provoke Gaillo to move this thread to Firearms... :P :D



...back to Firearms where it was originally posted.

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Why? You never post in the firearms forum, you were only trolling IMO. Considering that you mistook an obvious Model 29 Smith for a .22, I doubt you even have an EBR. And all this pretentious talk about defending freedom...

[Book]

So Book, why don't you tell us about your favorite liberty tool in your possession.



Glock G19 with factory night sights. I think it is perfection and love it. Perfection.

|--0--|




However you can hardly defend liberty with a handgun, for that one needs a serious semi-auto rifle.



http://www.geekalerts.com/u/mega-remote.jpg

Re-read the OP. You are intentionally diverting attention away from the most common "firearm" that most men in America fire nowadays...lol.

:D

[midnight rambler]

Re-read the OP. You are intentionally diverting attention away from the most common "firearm" that most men in America fire nowadays...lol.

:D


No, you're intentionally dodging the core issue. Let it be established that Book is all talk and doesn't even own an EBR, he only has his G19 to defend liberty, or so he thinks.

http://rlv.zcache.com/come_and_take_it_ak47_buttons-p145545948390828373t5sj_400.jpg

[ximmy]

Sweet... semi or full auto control, smooth action triggers, multi-launching capability... ;D

http://www.geekalerts.com/u/mega-remote.jpg

[midnight rambler]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.

[7th trump]

Re-read the OP. You are intentionally diverting attention away from the most common "firearm" that most men in America fire nowadays...lol.

:D


No, you're intentionally dodging the core issue. Let it be established that Book is all talk and doesn't even own an EBR, he only has his G19 to defend liberty, or so he thinks.

http://rlv.zcache.com/come_and_take_it_ak47_buttons-p145545948390828373t5sj_400.jpg

Book has always been all talk

[ximmy]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.


I have a folding blade... :)... no good huh??? :-[ :(

[midnight rambler]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.


I have a folding blade... :)... no good huh??? :-[ :(


You're a girl, and girls are excused.

[chad]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.


i'm a hypocrite because i only have around 3,000 rounds for my ar? huh?

[midnight rambler]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.


i'm a hypocrite because i only have around 3,000 rounds for my ar? huh?


I suppose you're in double trouble then since you will need to fire extra rounds with your poodle shooter to make up for lack of energy and penetration as opposed to .30 caliber.

All that aside, if you really think about it you could easily burn through 3,000 rounds in a few short months during a calamity. IMO 3k rounds is a good down payment toward your long term copper, lead, and brass metal holdings.

[Book]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.



http://www.techepics.com/files/keyboard_glove.jpg

Dang...your "EBR" is really smoking today. You be the MIDNIGHT RAMBLER and be a Free Man and all. This thread is really proving the premise of my OP today tough guy...lol.

:D

[Book]

I have a folding blade... :)... no good huh??? :-[ :(



You have sardonic wit...much more dangerous than any other weapon.

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[Book]

Let it be established that Book is all talk and doesn't even own an EBR, he only has his G19 to defend liberty, or so he thinks.



You over-compensate for your obvious inadequacies...lol

[midnight rambler]

You over-compensate for your obvious inadequacies...lol



Yeah, and by your reasoning I suppose all my friends with belt-feds are even worse off than me in this respect.

What's really funny is that you post a photo of a gun which you probably cannot provide the name of in an instant, i.e. without doing some web searching.

[RJB]

In Book's defense, posting the type and number of your armaments on a public forum is as unwise as posting your pm holdings.

Besides the OP was a mocking/humorous look at the American mindset of the remote replacing personal weapons. These "serious" accusations at Book only make this thread all the more hilarious.

You guys are killing me LOL ;D

[SLV^GLD]

FWIW, I think the OP was a provocative and interesting post... for some subforum besides firearms. Book knew that; he just wasn't going to get the reaction he wanted otherwise.

[midnight rambler]

In Book's defense, posting the type and number of your armaments on a public forum is as unwise as posting your pm holdings.



You're defending the indefensible. If the competition doesn't know you have an EBR and are willing to use it, then it isn't much of a deterrent, is it? The primary reason for being armed is to be a deterrent for any law-breaking aggressors, to make them think twice about using force. This reason alone is why CCW laws work as well as they do, since the law-breaking aggressors are never sure who is armed. If everyone was armed, crime would largely be non-existent.




"...arms...discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ...Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them." -Thomas Paine.

How are you going to keep the invader and plunderer in awe if he has doubts about your willingness to present overwhelming firepower? Nothing says OVERWHELMING FIREPOWER like a drum magazine...

I never suggested that anyone post their inventory, only stand up and be counted essentially saying, "Yea! I have (whatever EBR) and I'm fully prepared to use it!" Anything short of that is wimping out IMO.


"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government..."-Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist (#28).

[chad]

okay, after this thread last night, i got really annoyed, so i inventoried. i have about 5,200 round for my RAK.

i guess that should absolve me from the poodle shooter issues. ;D

[midnight rambler]

okay, after this thread last night, i got really annoyed, so i inventoried. i have about 5,200 round for my RAK.

i guess that should absolve me from the poodle shooter issues. ;D


Sounds like you're good to go.

[chad]

i hope so. if the legions get inside, there are multiple berettas.

i really need to buy a .308 something though. been putting it off for years. ammo costs mostly.

[Liquid]

FREEDOM


Say Book? I just killed my TV. I just tossed it into the water and watched it sink.

I ripped the TV off the wall and tossed it into the water. It sank quick.

I feel better already.

[1970 silver art]

FREEDOM


Say Book? I just killed my TV. I just tossed it into the water and watched it sink.

I ripped the TV off the wall and tossed it into the water. It sank quick.

I feel better already.


But Liquid...........What about your freedom? Having a remote control in your hand and flipping through the channels on the TV is the greatest freedom that any U.S. citizen can have. How dare for you to decide to toss away your freedom by "losing" your TV in a boating accident. Poor TV. :'( I feel very bad for the TV. Hopefully the TV did not have to suffer too much during its boating accident.

:sarc:

[Dogman]

Any so-called freedom lover who doesn't own an EBR along with a minimum of 5,000 rounds for it is a hypocrite who expects others to do the heavy lifting for them while expecting to reap the benefits for simply waving the pom-poms.


Do not have 5,000 rounds loaded for my M1a and M1 garand .308 (navy conversion) Maybe 2,000 loaded with several
thousand cases. But does having a Dillon rl550b with enough powder,bullets, and primers count?

Then 5.56 only 1,000 or so rounds for my bolt gun a Savage Model: 12 bvss but with plenty of primers,bullets and powder?

Never been in the spray and pray, corner I prefer aimed controlled fire myself, less waste.

[k-os]

FREEDOM


Say Book? I just killed my TV. I just tossed it into the water and watched it sink.

I ripped the TV off the wall and tossed it into the water. It sank quick.

I feel better already.


I hope you really did that . . . that would be cool.

When I got rid of mine, I beat it with a baseball bat and an axe. It was awesome.

[Liquid]

Adios, boys.

It's been one hellofa ride.

[RJB]

Adios, boys.

It's been one hellofa ride.
Are you tossing the computer too?

[StackerKen]

Adios, boys.

It's been one hellofa ride.



???

[1970 silver art]

FREEDOM


Say Book? I just killed my TV. I just tossed it into the water and watched it sink.

I ripped the TV off the wall and tossed it into the water. It sank quick.

I feel better already.


I hope you really did that . . . that would be cool.

When I got rid of mine, I beat it with a baseball bat and an axe. It was awesome.


Even though I do not watch as much TV as I used to, I am not strong enough to get rid of my TV. I watch football (and other programs) way too much to get rid of my TV. You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am. Then again, normal sheeple people such as myself are not supposed to get rid of their TV's. ;D

[Liquid]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo

[Gaillo]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo


Sorry to see ya go, Liquid. This place won't be the same without you!

[StackerKen]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo


Sorry to see ya go, Liquid. This place won't be the same without you!


Yeah bummer man.

Hope it works out good for ya though Liquid

[RJB]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo


Sorry to see ya go, Liquid. This place won't be the same without you!
Yeah man. I'll miss you too. I have the temptation to to cut the cord. Maybe someday I'll have your discipline. Cheers.

[zap]

Are you sure ? Or are you just having an enlightened moment?

[StackerKen]

I just tried to PM Liquid....and it said couldn't find that user

???


Is he gone already Gaillo?

[Dogman]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo


Agree tv's are in general evil and mind numbing. But computers and the net can cut both ways,
I would really sit back and think about what you are thinking of doing. For one the largest library
in the world, and at least on the net, YOU control what you are seeing!

IMHO

[RJB]

Ironically, about the 4:20 mark is one of my favorite scenes in any movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mIEDCqRwY

[1970 silver art]

You and Liquid are stronger (and better) people than I am.


Damnit, nobody is stronger, we are just without TV's. My favorite dvd, movie, sank with that tv.

I'm done with anything electronic.

This is why I am deleting my account.



EDIT: Fixed quoting. -Gaillo


Liquid,

That sounds very extreme but deleting your GSUS account?...............Well if you think that is in your best interest, then you should do so but I think that you should take a break from GSUS instead of deleting your GSUS account. Everybody needs a break from the asylum every once in a while and it is not a bad thing to take a break from GSUS.

[RJB]

You're defending the indefensible. LOL Get off your meladrama.
If the competition doesn't know you have an EBR and are willing to use it, LOL. So you think that Book is your competition? ;D
then it isn't much of a deterrent, is it? The primary reason for being armed is to be a deterrent for any law-breaking aggressors, to make them think twice about using force. This reason alone is why CCW laws work as well as they do, since the law-breaking aggressors are never sure who is armed. If everyone was armed, crime would largely be non-existent. He told you his favorite weapon was the Glock. When you demanded to know his favorite EBR, he told you to quit hijacking his thread.

There are many times I disagree with Book, but he points out inconsistancies and he does it well without emotional garbage. He could have easily answered your question with some BS about having 15,000 rounds of ammo for an M1, 20,000 for an AR as a lot of people do on these type of forums. I would say that since you were so angered by the couch potato picture it may be due to the fact that you realized where you are lacking. Hopefully instead of directing anger at Book, you will go get a real AK with the 5,000 rounds of ammo. ;D

I'm just having fun there, but seriously, I think the reason that Book annoys some people is that he doesn't get his emotions and personal life involved with his posts. He posts the truth as he sees it. Take it or leave it.

[Gaillo]

I just tried to PM Liquid....and it said couldn't find that user

???


Is he gone already Gaillo?



He's put in an account deletion request, and nobody has approved it yet. I sure as hell have no intention of assisting in another GS-US "suicide"! >:(

[zap]

Maybe he is just feeling a little sparkly tonight. ;)

[1970 silver art]

Darnit Liquid. :'( :'( :'(

I see that your GSUS account was deleted. I am sorry that you felt that you needed to delete your GSUS account but I think that was a mistake in my opinion. There is no doubt in my mind that you are one of the good guys on GSUS. If there is a slim chance that you still lurking on GSUS and you are reading this post, then feel free to join us in Sunday night chat. You are ALWAYS welcome to join us in Sunday night chat.

[Down1]

Oh goody, more drama.
I guess I can hold off on my account deletion request due to lack of drama for a while.

The internet is good. Most electronics are good. Yes TV is horrid, but to toss everything else out is plain dumb.

[midnight rambler]

I think the reason that Book annoys some people is that he doesn't get his emotions and personal life involved with his posts.

I think you're mistaken. Book obviously gets overly emotionally involved, that's what makes Book who he is.

[StackerKen]

Oh goody, more drama.
I guess I can hold off on my account deletion request due to lack of drama for a while.

The internet is good. Most electronics are good. Yes TV is horrid, but to toss everything else out is plain dumb.


I agree that Most electronics are good.

The TV it's self is just a appliance. Its what you do with it that matters.
Sure, lots of TV shows are crap. But not all of them are. Some make for good entertainment.
Some can be informative

I like watching the cooking competition shows. (Chopped, Iron chef, Masterchef) Google em
Hells kitchen can be funny sometimes too. We record what we want to see then watch it when we have time and skip the commercials.

I also like the nature shows

[EE_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nK508xZ5Fs

[Book]

I doubt you even have an EBR. And all this pretentious talk about defending freedom...



http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k73/JohnWagnerIII/InternetCommando.jpg

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.

[gunDriller]

I agree that Most electronics are good.

The TV it's self is just a appliance. Its what you do with it that matters.
Sure, lots of TV shows are crap. But not all of them are. Some make for good entertainment.
Some can be informative

I like watching the cooking competition shows. (Chopped, Iron chef, Masterchef) Google em
Hells kitchen can be funny sometimes too. We record what we want to see then watch it when we have time and skip the commercials.

I also like the nature shows


i like watching whatever is on, when i visit a TV-using household.

i can't agree that electronics is good, because of the amount of pollution involved in its manufacture. we ignore that pollution by sending the manufacturing offshore.


of course, like many human beings, i am behaving hypocritically - i'm typing this on computer equipment that was purchased new (as opposed to used, which pollutes a lot less), using an LCD TV as a monitor.

[illumin19]

This thread rocks!! :D


FWIW....I got rid of my .30 cal....had too many calibers with only one firearm to shoot from. I decided to (at least) double up first on the basic calibers....still haven't made up my mind which type of .30 cal I want to double up on yet....most likely 308....but that 30/06 is soooo versatile. What's a man to do?

[gunDriller]

This thread rocks!! :D


it does ? i'm posting on a rocking thread !?

this calls for some music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW4DPIBO5OU

[AndreaGail]

bummed to see liquid leave :-[

hes a great poster and chatter

[StackerKen]

Im bummed to see him leave the way he did too.

We exchanged many PM's over the past couple years and I considered him a friend. and was looking forward to maybe meeting him someday Having a surf together or panning for gold.

Then, he just left with out even sending a goodbye PM :-\

[ximmy]

Adios, boys.

It's been one hellofa ride.


jeeebus dude... it's not april fools...???

[ximmy]

I doubt you even have an EBR. And all this pretentious talk about defending freedom...



http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k73/JohnWagnerIII/InternetCommando.jpg

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.




Book... be nice... Most doesn't have quite the tools you do... and if "Thunderdope," could you imagine the heck of a time cleaning up all the pant crap off the steel cage... I'm not going to do it... :oo--> :lol
...ximy the meek... ::)

[Awoke]

Well I don't know how the hell you guys can afford to have 5000+ rounds laying around.
The only ammo I buy for my assault rifle is surplus corrosive, which is cheap, but still, I can't afford to buy 5000+ rounds.

Besides, it's FMJ. Is that what you really want to be using WTSHTF?

[platinumdude]

Well I don't know how the hell you guys can afford to have 5000+ rounds laying around.
The only ammo I buy for my assault rifle is surplus corrosive, which is cheap, but still, I can't afford to buy 5000+ rounds.

Besides, it's FMJ. Is that what you really want to be using WTSHTF?


If the round is big enough, FMJ should do the trick. .45, .308, 7.62X39

[Gaillo]

Well I don't know how the hell you guys can afford to have 5000+ rounds laying around.
The only ammo I buy for my assault rifle is surplus corrosive, which is cheap, but still, I can't afford to buy 5000+ rounds.

Besides, it's FMJ. Is that what you really want to be using WTSHTF?


Some of us have been stacking for a LONG, LONG, LOOOOONGGG time! ;D

[midnight rambler]

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.




I think you're mistaken. Book obviously gets overly emotionally involved, that's what makes Book who he is.

Point made. Book is passionate about telling others what hopelessly lost slaves they are, he's not passionate about living free.

[ximmy]

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.




I think you're mistaken. Book obviously gets overly emotionally involved, that's what makes Book who he is.

Point made. Book is passionate about telling others what hopelessly lost slaves they are, he's not passionate about living free.


midnight rambler... do you realize you are talking to yourself??? :-\

[Book]

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.



Point made.



:D

[RJB]

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.



Point made.



:D
Quit being overly emotional, Book :D

[midnight rambler]

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the TSA airport agent while she was groping your Fruit Of The Looms.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the Police Officer while you meekly handed him your drivers license.

Tell us all about how often you pointed your own "EBR" at the IRS agent on April 15th.

:D

You don't have any freedoms anymore. They took them all away while you were fondling your "EBR" and talking tough in internet forums...lol.



Point made.



:D


Book expresses his utter contempt for God by thumbing his nose at Him. Book fears the almighty state more than he fears God.

“The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God” - JFK

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson

"You can kid yourself and say I'm only going along because they have all the guns, but day by day, year by year, your integrity erodes. Finally, you become like the tyrants: just one more liar." –Franklin Sanders

"None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." -- John Milton

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance does whatever is dictated to it." -- Thomas Paine, Rights of Man

"When a man-made law is contrary to the law of nature, it has no validity, any time, anywhere, under any circumstances, in the entire planet." --Sir Walter Blackstone

"The notion that you can somehow defeat violence by submitting to it is simply a flight from fact. As I have said, it is only possible to people who have money and guns between themselves and reality." - George Orwell, 1941

"The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of the executive power." --Daniel Webster

"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." – The Dalai Lama

"Of all the things that can be forced upon men; freedom cannot; this each man must take for himself. Freedom being the most precious of commodities; it is not obtained at bargain prices; it is costly; and by Heaven rightfully so. Honor, courage, sacrifice, and vigilance are the coin by which freedom is obtained. A day gone without payment rendered – is a day without freedom." - Thomas John Clark

“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.” -Thomas Paine

"God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it." - Daniel Webster

[Book]

http://adammclane.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jesus-gun.jpg

http://benjaminwells.com/wp-content/uploads/Jesus_gun.jpg

http://reconstitution.us/pic/2008/jesusistan_gun.jpg

http://lefteyeonthemedia.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jesus-with-guns.jpg?w=304

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XCkTSf0swcQ/SeHGmzY5SeI/AAAAAAAAFrI/Um_o__3n7Vo/s400/weird-jesus-holy-gun.jpg

Midnight Rambler is now resorting to playing his God Said card...lol.

:D