SO, a co-worker got the flu shot last thursday

[Awoke]

A co-worker got the flu shot last thursday, and yesterday had to go to the hospital and has been diagnosed with bell's palsy.

Say some prayers for him if you can.

I warned him about the flu shot. Maybe there is no connection, who knows? EIther way, I always recommend that people DO NOT get the flu shot.

[sunshine05]

Thanks for posting this. I hope he is okay. I think it's very likely it is related to the shot.

[chad]

i finally got my wife to come around to the vaccination/shot thing this year. small victories.

[Twisted Titan]

Your health is everything ...........EVERYTHING.

Jobs that are contingent on vaccinations should be thought on serioulsy.


You can always get another job......... the same cant be said about ones health.

Wish a speedy recovery to the Co- woker but they may have suffered a fatal case of STUPID between the ears .


T

[boogietillyapuke]

Haven't had one since the last mandatory one I was forced to submit to, prior from my retirement from Uncle Sam's Sea Service in 91.

They always gave them on friday and I always felt like shyt for the next 2 or 3 days.

I passed through Atlanta airport the week before last and they were offering them for "free" on concourse C. I just laughed and told them that I hadn't had one in 20 years and wasn't about to start now.

[Neuro]

A co-worker got the flu shot last thursday, and yesterday had to go to the hospital and has been diagnosed with bell's palsy.

Say some prayers for him if you can.

I warned him about the flu shot. Maybe there is no connection, who knows? EIther way, I always recommend that people DO NOT get the flu shot.
Most likely there is a connection, but most likely none of the MD's this person is in contact with will ever admit to the possibility there is one...

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Went to see a doctor not too long ago and he was pushing HARD for me to get the shot. I said I'm allergic to eggs. He said then I cannot get the shot.

So there's an easy out to pass on to people if they are feeling the pressure by the white coats.

[Twisted Titan]

Went to see a doctor not too long ago and he was pushing HARD for me to get the shot. I said I'm allergic to eggs. He said then I cannot get the shot.

So there's an easy out to pass on to people if they are feeling the pressure by the white coats.


I got one better

My Rabbi wont allow it.

10X more effective.

[sunshine05]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/01/flu-vaccine-and-its-side-effects.aspx?aid=CD945

Fisher outlined these three primary health concerns in a recent NVIC video update:

1. Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an autoimmune disease which has been associated with influenza vaccine since 1976, when the swine flu vaccine was first used. In fact, British government health experts acknowledged the link between the H1N1 vaccine and an increased risk of GBS earlier this month. Prior to this public admittance, the government had always denied such a link
2. Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP), an autoimmune disorder, is a blood clotting disorder characterized by insufficient platelets
3. Bell's palsy, a reaction causing temporary facial paralysis


Sorry, I tried to post the entire article but the text was a mess and I don't have time to go through and fix it but I did want to highlight this, Awoke.

[madfranks]

It's too coincidental that he gets the shot and comes down with Bell's Palsy right after. No doubt in my mind the flu shot is the culprit. I'm sorry he didn't listen to you.

sunshine05, thanks for the article. I'm going to print it out and keep it on hand for reference next time someone asks why I'm not getting the flu shot.

[Awoke]

The funny thing is, I said there is "no way in hell" that I would get the flu shot. He was nodding in agreement with me, saying "same here, screw them".

Then he went and got it. Pfft. I hope he recovers. One of our other co=workers knew a woman that suffered bells palsy two times, and made a full recovery both times.

Other people are not as fortunate.

[sunshine05]

I would print the article for him and definitely tell him to report the side effects to VAERS. It becomes public record. People need to report this stuff. This vaccine craze needs to stop.

http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

[Ponce]

And my civilian Dr got pissed off at me because I refused the flu shot.......he really grilled me about it and at the end told me "You better stop listening to all that propaganda".......I like my "propaganda" better than his ;D

[MAGNES]

My father, retired, pounded it into their heads in a nice way, on flu shots,
lots of info, they understood and agreed, he went and got the flu shot
at a mall cause it was convenient, lol, was sick as a dog for 2 weeks
afterwards, used that opportunity to pound it into their heads again,
father never gets sick, he agrees with me , don't know why people
are so stupid. The flu shot made him very sick. He agrees, this winter
we see again, they stubborn it seems, it seems people must do their
own research and reading to really get it.

I just stocked up on high quality complex B's, vitamin C complex,
and quality D, 1000 IU. I never get sick. 2 years ago thought I was
sick, it was the cigars drying my throat , affected my speech.
Cut back lots of times.

What do you do with a 2 year old in pre school daycare some days ?
SIS is aware , thank god their doctor told them no to swineflu shot
for the kid, but the kid gets sick a lot from school, usually mild.
Friend of mine, he has never been sicker cause of his kids, lol .

[MAGNES]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/01/flu-vaccine-and-its-side-effects.aspx?aid=CD945

Fisher outlined these three primary health concerns in a recent NVIC video update:

1. Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an autoimmune disease which has been associated with influenza vaccine since 1976, when the swine flu vaccine was first used. In fact, British government health experts acknowledged the link between the H1N1 vaccine and an increased risk of GBS earlier this month. Prior to this public admittance, the government had always denied such a link
2. Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP), an autoimmune disorder, is a blood clotting disorder characterized by insufficient platelets
3. Bell's palsy, a reaction causing temporary facial paralysis


Sorry, I tried to post the entire article but the text was a mess and I don't have time to go through and fix it but I did want to highlight this, Awoke.


The more I read on this,
these people pushing this are just bloody evil animals.
Even the EU is investigating the criminals and "swine flu",
but in the end there is no consequences/accountability and
the media, JEWSMEDIA gives them a pass, they are in on it.

Thanks to the finds and good ideas above. Any more ?

" religious exemption " " no monkey cells going into my body "
" god made us perfect " " we believe in god "

[sunshine05]

Magnes, we do the religious exemption because we don't vax. I typed it out myself, easy. Regarding kids getting sick....I dealt with that last winter with my younger son. He was sick all the time from being in preschool. It was awful. I'm keep him on vit C, vit D, fish oil, probiotics and what seems to help most is echinacea. You can buy it in liquid form and I just add it to his juice once or twice/day. I'm doing 6 weeks on, two weeks off because you're supposed to take a break from it to keep it's full effect.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Kind of hard to tell somebody "I told you so" when they feel like they're about to die, but sometimes it really hammers the point home.

[Twisted Titan]

Magnes, we do the religious exemption because we don't vax. I typed it out myself, easy. Regarding kids getting sick....I dealt with that last winter with my younger son. He was sick all the time from being in preschool. It was awful. I'm keep him on vit C, vit D, fish oil, probiotics and what seems to help most is echinacea. You can buy it in liquid form and I just add it to his juice once or twice/day. I'm doing 6 weeks on, two weeks off because you're supposed to take a break from it to keep it's full effect.


Gotta remember that list for when The Wee One gets here

There will be NO VACCINATIONS in my house.


T

[horseshoe3]

Did I miss something??? Congrats!

[Awoke]

Did I miss something??? Congrats!


Pardon?

[Cebu_4_2]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/01/flu-vaccine-and-its-side-effects.aspx?aid=CD945

Fisher outlined these three primary health concerns in a recent NVIC video update:

1. Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an autoimmune disease which has been associated with influenza vaccine since 1976, when the swine flu vaccine was first used. In fact, British government health experts acknowledged the link between the H1N1 vaccine and an increased risk of GBS earlier this month. Prior to this public admittance, the government had always denied such a link
2. Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP), an autoimmune disorder, is a blood clotting disorder characterized by insufficient platelets
3. Bell's palsy, a reaction causing temporary facial paralysis


Sorry, I tried to post the entire article but the text was a mess and I don't have time to go through and fix it but I did want to highlight this, Awoke.


My boy scored #2 years ago, only thing they will do is remove his spleen which was not an option. He stopped responding to treatment (mystery chemical cocktail) so my only option was herbal therapy. Kept him out of trouble for many years now, last platelet check was after a week of Mono and they were at 64K. See I am good for something :-)

[Shami-Amourae]

You need to get vaccinated here in California in order to graduate from the state universities. I just said it went against my religion and was able to get out of it. Ironically I'm an atheist.
;D


I'll definitely have to claim I'm a Jew next time though, they'll probably give me more respect then and a honorary boot lick.

[FreeEnergy]

I've warned my family not to take the flue shot.

But. They are overloading kids with this crap.

I counted 35 SHOTS from birth to teen years.

35 f*ckING SHOTS

My little one got a few in hospital when she was born. Then after 1st month. Then after 2 months she's got 3 or 4. She was sick for a day from it, recovered nicely, thanks god. Now basically every month they administer more crap.

When I am at pediatricians, the vaccine propaganda bull*it just jumps at me screaming from all the walls, because all these nice and cutesey posters with babies and "save your babies' health" propaganda is signed with the drug companies' logos - merck, sanofi-aventis, pfizer, whoever.

They are saying this monster list is required to get into school. Is there a way to get out of it? I could probably play a religious card, the problem is all pediatricians are probably jewish too and are on the chutzpah (one lady is just a dumb biach pretending to be a doctor, I've asked more than once NOT to give me an appointment with her, but I guess nobody wants her 'cause she's always available)...

[RJB]

It's easy. There are lots of bible verses. Just google for vaccine bible verses and find one that fits your beliefs. Many Christian churches may not have a stance on vaccines, but teach that the parents hold authority over state and doctors. The Catholic Church is one for example.



I could probably play a religious card,

[FreeEnergy]

RJB, thanks, lots of good info to digest

[Twisted Titan]

I've warned my family not to take the flue shot.

But. They are overloading kids with this crap.

I counted 35 SHOTS from birth to teen years.

35 f*ckING SHOTS

My little one got a few in hospital when she was born. Then after 1st month. Then after 2 months she's got 3 or 4. She was sick for a day from it, recovered nicely, thanks god. Now basically every month they administer more crap.

When I am at pediatricians, the vaccine propaganda bull*it just jumps at me screaming from all the walls, because all these nice and cutesey posters with babies and "save your babies' health" propaganda is signed with the drug companies' logos - merck, sanofi-aventis, pfizer, whoever.

They are saying this monster list is required to get into school. Is there a way to get out of it? I could probably play a religious card, the problem is all pediatricians are probably jewish too and are on the chutzpah (one lady is just a dumb biach pretending to be a doctor, I've asked more than once NOT to give me an appointment with her, but I guess nobody wants her 'cause she's always available)...




I want someone to try and pull that crap.

My question will be pretty straightforward.

A treatment is only nessecary once a condition exists correct?

So please tell me what was the illiness that you were able to effectively diagnose from when my child was born untill now ( 24-72 hours)

We will wait till a check up....... if no symtops arise no "treatments" will be administered.

And even if they do.....the cure dam sure aint coming from a test tube ( just keep those thoughts to yourself)

You have got to be like a Mother Bear protecting her cub.

T

[ShortJohnSilver]

I want someone to try and pull that crap.

My question will be pretty straightforward.

A treatment is only nessecary once a condition exists correct?

So please tell me what was the illiness that you were able to effectively diagnose from when my child was born untill now ( 24-72 hours)

We will wait till a check up....... if no symtops arise no "treatments" will be administered.

And even if they do.....the cure dam sure aint coming from a test tube ( just keep those thoughts to yourself)

You have got to be like a Mother Bear protecting her cub.

T


Good luck TT they will even try the "vitamin K" shot within say 24 hours of being born... you will have to have a firm understanding with the head nurse on the floor "no shots without explicit parental approval" and even then someone has to be around a lot.

[Twisted Titan]

I want someone to try and pull that crap.

My question will be pretty straightforward.

A treatment is only nessecary once a condition exists correct?

So please tell me what was the illiness that you were able to effectively diagnose from when my child was born untill now ( 24-72 hours)

We will wait till a check up....... if no symtops arise no "treatments" will be administered.

And even if they do.....the cure dam sure aint coming from a test tube ( just keep those thoughts to yourself)

You have got to be like a Mother Bear protecting her cub.

T


Good luck TT they will even try the "vitamin K" shot within say 24 hours of being born... you will have to have a firm understanding with the head nurse on the floor "no shots without explicit parental approval" and even then someone has to be around a lot.


That is EXACTLY the one I am talking about.


If there is are no symptoms WTF are you giving it for???

Anything the baby needs will be passed through breast Milk.( But I wont disclose that I have a PhD is Common Sense)

But I will give them a "out" by making them feel I will get the shot(s) at her first checkup.( yeah........ you can believe what you want,)


My Objective is to get my brood out of that Facility ASAP without any shots and the least amount of blood samples as possible I will be more than happy to play the stupid card to do that.

But........

Im more than ready to rip off any number of heads between me and the Front door ;).

[sunshine05]

I've warned my family not to take the flue shot.

But. They are overloading kids with this crap.

I counted 35 SHOTS from birth to teen years.

35 f*ckING SHOTS

My little one got a few in hospital when she was born. Then after 1st month. Then after 2 months she's got 3 or 4. She was sick for a day from it, recovered nicely, thanks god. Now basically every month they administer more crap.

When I am at pediatricians, the vaccine propaganda bull*it just jumps at me screaming from all the walls, because all these nice and cutesey posters with babies and "save your babies' health" propaganda is signed with the drug companies' logos - merck, sanofi-aventis, pfizer, whoever.

They are saying this monster list is required to get into school. Is there a way to get out of it? I could probably play a religious card, the problem is all pediatricians are probably jewish too and are on the chutzpah (one lady is just a dumb biach pretending to be a doctor, I've asked more than once NOT to give me an appointment with her, but I guess nobody wants her 'cause she's always available)...


FreeEnergy, not sure which state you live in, but 48 states allow some type of exemption to attend school. All but MS and WV. (I will never live in those states). If you do a search, you can find a template to type up for the school, then you just need to sign it. Our schools accept them without question. Private schools can be tricky since they don't have to accept them but I convinced my son's school to accept my exemption this year. The director said we were the first to ever do this. :)

Regarding the pediatrician, you don't *have* to take your child to a ped. A family doctor is a good option and they don't typically push the vaccines as hard. That's what we do and our doctor studied holistic medicine as well so he doesn't bully us at all. But if you do choose to keep your ped, you can just give them the same exemption form you would type out for the school and if they don't accept it, switch doctors. Go elsewhere. It seems to me that the only purpose of peds is to push vaccines because general doctors are fine to treat kids. If you want a copy of my vax exemption form, you can pm me and I'll email you the document. It is for NC but like I said, if you search you should be able to find a good template to use for your state.

[Twisted Titan]

I've warned my family not to take the flue shot.

But. They are overloading kids with this crap.

I counted 35 SHOTS from birth to teen years.

35 f*ckING SHOTS

My little one got a few in hospital when she was born. Then after 1st month. Then after 2 months she's got 3 or 4. She was sick for a day from it, recovered nicely, thanks god. Now basically every month they administer more crap.

When I am at pediatricians, the vaccine propaganda bull*it just jumps at me screaming from all the walls, because all these nice and cutesey posters with babies and "save your babies' health" propaganda is signed with the drug companies' logos - merck, sanofi-aventis, pfizer, whoever.

They are saying this monster list is required to get into school. Is there a way to get out of it? I could probably play a religious card, the problem is all pediatricians are probably jewish too and are on the chutzpah (one lady is just a dumb biach pretending to be a doctor, I've asked more than once NOT to give me an appointment with her, but I guess nobody wants her 'cause she's always available)...


FreeEnergy, not sure which state you live in, but 48 states allow some type of exemption to attend school. All but MS and WV. (I will never live in those states). If you do a search, you can find a template to type up for the school, then you just need to sign it. Our schools accept them without question. Private schools can be tricky since they don't have to accept them but I convinced my son's school to accept my exemption this year. The director said we were the first to ever do this. :)

Regarding the pediatrician, you don't *have* to take your child to a ped. A family doctor is a good option and they don't typically push the vaccines as hard. That's what we do and our doctor studied holistic medicine as well so he doesn't bully us at all. But if you do choose to keep your ped, you can just give them the same exemption form you would type out for the school and if they don't accept it, switch doctors. Go elsewhere. It seems to me that the only purpose of peds is to push vaccines because general doctors are fine to treat kids. If you want a copy of my vax exemption form, you can pm me and I'll email you the document. It is for NC but like I said, if you search you should be able to find a good template to use for your state.



Lots of Docs become beligerent when you question there "authority" over your child and many are now becoming hostile

They are quick to Dx you the parent as "mentally defective" and pass your information along to child protective services.

Then you get flagged by The State goon squad.


T

[7th trump]

I've warned my family not to take the flue shot.

But. They are overloading kids with this crap.

I counted 35 SHOTS from birth to teen years.

35 f*ckING SHOTS

My little one got a few in hospital when she was born. Then after 1st month. Then after 2 months she's got 3 or 4. She was sick for a day from it, recovered nicely, thanks god. Now basically every month they administer more crap.

When I am at pediatricians, the vaccine propaganda bull*it just jumps at me screaming from all the walls, because all these nice and cutesey posters with babies and "save your babies' health" propaganda is signed with the drug companies' logos - merck, sanofi-aventis, pfizer, whoever.

They are saying this monster list is required to get into school. Is there a way to get out of it? I could probably play a religious card, the problem is all pediatricians are probably jewish too and are on the chutzpah (one lady is just a dumb biach pretending to be a doctor, I've asked more than once NOT to give me an appointment with her, but I guess nobody wants her 'cause she's always available)...


FreeEnergy, not sure which state you live in, but 48 states allow some type of exemption to attend school. All but MS and WV. (I will never live in those states). If you do a search, you can find a template to type up for the school, then you just need to sign it. Our schools accept them without question. Private schools can be tricky since they don't have to accept them but I convinced my son's school to accept my exemption this year. The director said we were the first to ever do this. :)

Regarding the pediatrician, you don't *have* to take your child to a ped. A family doctor is a good option and they don't typically push the vaccines as hard. That's what we do and our doctor studied holistic medicine as well so he doesn't bully us at all. But if you do choose to keep your ped, you can just give them the same exemption form you would type out for the school and if they don't accept it, switch doctors. Go elsewhere. It seems to me that the only purpose of peds is to push vaccines because general doctors are fine to treat kids. If you want a copy of my vax exemption form, you can pm me and I'll email you the document. It is for NC but like I said, if you search you should be able to find a good template to use for your state.



Lots of Docs become beligerent when you question there "authority" over your child and many are now becoming hostile

They are quick to Dx you the parent as "mentally defective" and pass your information along to child protective services.

Then you get flagged by The State goon squad.


T

Hey twisty,
No need to question the doctors authority just simply cut them off at the pass. Show the doctor you have already taken preventitive precautions and the doc will lay off.
I had my one and only son 14 months ago and I didnt have a problem getting my son out of the hospital with no shots and no ssn.
All I did was tell them I'd be happy to do sign the SS5 form and vacinate my son after talking with my lawyer over it.
I got a simple "Ok no problem" from the nurse and left the paper work with us on the way out the door.

Also, when you go for your first check up the nurse is going to try and push for vaccinations, but be ready with the papers for them that you have the exemption form.
I got my exemption form signed by a chiropractor who doesnt beleive in drugs and vaccinations. However, I did run into a bit of a problem with the doctor and he asked why havent I consented to getting Payton his vaccinations.
I simple told the doctor I researched what was in the vaccinations and dont agree to putting in known chemicals that are toxic to the body. Especially in an infant.
He simply said "OK" and "You are continueing to take Payton to the chiro and have him checked on a regular basis?" I said "yes". No further issues from the doctor from that point on.