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Twisted Titan
6th November 2010, 12:35 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/business/05bank.html



Bank of America Fights Pressure on Mortgages.



Bank of America on Thursday rebuffed claims by a lawyer for several big investors, including the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, that it should buy back troubled mortgages because the loans were made improperly.



In its first response to the investor claims, Bank of America argued that the effort would have the effect of speeding up the foreclosure process and force it to evict more homeowners. The investors’ claims have become a major worry on Wall Street as the foreclosure crisis has escalated.

A group of investors, including the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and Pimco, the money management firm, is pressing Bank of America to buy back a portion of some $47 billion worth of mortgages. They argue that Countrywide, a unit of Bank of America, has not been servicing the mortgages correctly and that the loans did not conform to underwriting standards.

In a letter from its lawyers Thursday, Bank of America said the problems stemmed from the economic downturn rather than any underlying problem with how the mortgages were sold to investors. It called the investor claims “utterly baseless.”

Signaling a much more aggressive legal stance, the bank also criticized the lawyer behind the effort, Kathy D. Patrick. It argued that a letter she wrote last month that was signed by clients was “written for an improper purpose, or in furtherance of an ulterior agenda.” Ms. Patrick did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment.

Since Ms. Patrick’s letter was released last month, Bank of America shares have slumped on fears that investor efforts to force it to buy back mortgages — known as put-backs — could be a drain on earnings for years. In recent days, several reports by Wall Street research firms have estimated the put-back claims could cost the industry $43 billion to $90 billion.

At the same time, Bank of America’s chief executive, Brian T. Moynihan, went on the offensive at a conference with bank analysts in Boston on Thursday. “I don’t think we should be put in a position where we aren’t trying to help homeowners through this strife because people want us to foreclose faster,” he said.



In addition, Mr. Moynihan said, he was caught off guard by the decision of the Federal Reserve and Freddie Mac, the government-controlled giant, as well as private investors to sign the letter.

Bank of America and other large institutions like JPMorgan Chase and GMAC Mortgage themselves have faced criticism that foreclosures have been pursued without the proper paperwork or with signatures by so-called robo-signers. But on Wall Street, the worry is that the investor effort to get the banks to buy back defaulted mortgages could actually be a longer and more expensive fight for the industry.

At the same time, Bank of America faces pressure to slow the foreclosure process, even as large investors — including the government in the case of the Federal Reserve and Freddie Mac — push for the foreclosures to proceed.

In Thursday’s letter, written by Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, one of New York’s top law firms, Bank of America’s lawyers note that Freddie Mac has stated publicly that it is committed to help troubled mortgage holders keep their homes.

“Your demands to hasten foreclosures and to reduce loan modifications are patently inconsistent with that stated aim,” the letter said.

The investors also argue that Bank of America is keeping the mortgages on its books to collect fees, rather than proceed with foreclosures. But Barbara J. Desoer, president of Bank of America Home Loans, said that charge was false.





We have no financial incentive to keep mortgages on the books longer,” she said. “Isn’t it better to modify the loan and keep people in their homes rather than foreclosing?”

Ms. Desoer said the underlying reason for the surge in foreclosures was the broader economic downturn, taking issue with critics who claim many of these loans should never have been made in the first place. “The economy declined, unemployment went up and house prices declined,” she said. “That’s not a reason for a loan to be put back.”

millwright
6th November 2010, 12:46 PM
Why do we need these banks?

Trillions in bailouts so they could pay themselves record bonuses ,and lets not forget thier most important function,which is to borrow money at zero and buy treasuries :oo-->

Gee,i sure am glad we have banks like BOA and JPM Chase.

Oh i almost forgot,and its especially great when they naked short Gold and Silver which are the only things that the little man can purchase to protect themselves.

Golly gee gosh wilickersi sure am glad we saved those banks.

And lets not forget the Corporations either.

I mean come on,how great is it that they gutted our industry and laid everybody off. Now folks like me can go to work for employment agencies who pay 12 dollars an hour and no benefits . I just can't believe my good fortune .

Twisted Titan
6th November 2010, 01:06 PM
Why do we need these banks?

Trillions in bailouts so they could pay themselves record bonuses ,and lets not forget thier most important function,which is to borrow money at zero and buy treasuries :oo-->

Gee,i sure am glad we have banks like BOA and JPM Chase.

Oh i almost forgot,and its especially great when they naked short Gold and Silver which are the only things that the little man can purchase to protect themselves.

Golly gee gosh wilickersi sure am glad we saved those banks.

And lets not forget the Corporations either.

I mean come on,how great is it that they gutted our industry and laid everybody off. Now folks like me can go to work for employment agencies who pay 12 dollars an hour and no benefits . I just can't believe my good fortune .


A bit off topic but I had to laugh:

Yesterday I was working with a master Electrican....... I told him he doesnt have to pay me a dime just let me watch and help out where I can cause I need as much feild experince as possible.

So I have gone on a few jobs with him as I am able to for a couple hours because I have to work this arround my trade school schedule. The stuff I am picking up is invaluable.

Well yesterday I worked with him close to 8 hours doing a Serivce Job Bending Conduits and pulling Wires etc. I wont lie that was some hard ass work and I never sweated so dam much in my life.

Any way the point I want to make is at the end of the day he was pleased with the work I did and he allowed me to keep the old scrap cables.


As you know service conductors for houses are pretty big and they're SOLID COPPER I got close to TEN POUNDS OF IT.


Talk about good fortune.

ShortJohnSilver
6th November 2010, 02:14 PM
A bit off topic but I had to laugh:

Yesterday I was working with a master Electrican....... I told him he doesnt have to pay me a dime just let me watch and help out where I can cause I need as much feild experince as possible.

So I have gone on a few jobs with him as I am able to for a couple hours because I have to work this arround my trade school schedule. The stuff I am picking up is invaluable.

Well yesterday I worked with him close to 8 hours doing a Serivce Job Bending Conduits and pulling Wires etc. I wont lie that was some hard ass work and I never sweated so dam much in my life.

Any way the point I want to make is at the end of the day he was pleased with the work I did and he allowed me to keep the old scrap cables.


As you know service conductors for houses are pretty big and they're SOLID COPPER I got close to TEN POUNDS OF IT.


Talk about good fortune.


That kind of scrap copper can fetch you $3 a lb or more even now... hold onto them, get yourself a plastic tub and just throw whatever copper you have into it... you will be able to buy 5 loaves of bread for 1 lbs of copper shortly...

7th trump
6th November 2010, 02:36 PM
Why do we need these banks?

Trillions in bailouts so they could pay themselves record bonuses ,and lets not forget thier most important function,which is to borrow money at zero and buy treasuries :oo-->

Gee,i sure am glad we have banks like BOA and JPM Chase.

Oh i almost forgot,and its especially great when they naked short Gold and Silver which are the only things that the little man can purchase to protect themselves.

Golly gee gosh wilickersi sure am glad we saved those banks.

And lets not forget the Corporations either.

I mean come on,how great is it that they gutted our industry and laid everybody off. Now folks like me can go to work for employment agencies who pay 12 dollars an hour and no benefits . I just can't believe my good fortune .


A bit off topic but I had to laugh:

Yesterday I was working with a master Electrican....... I told him he doesnt have to pay me a dime just let me watch and help out where I can cause I need as much feild experince as possible.

So I have gone on a few jobs with him as I am able to for a couple hours because I have to work this arround my trade school schedule. The stuff I am picking up is invaluable.

Well yesterday I worked with him close to 8 hours doing a Serivce Job Bending Conduits and pulling Wires etc. I wont lie that was some hard ass work and I never sweated so dam much in my life.

Any way the point I want to make is at the end of the day he was pleased with the work I did and he allowed me to keep the old scrap cables.


As you know service conductors for houses are pretty big and they're SOLID COPPER I got close to TEN POUNDS OF IT.


Talk about good fortune.

Taint nothing yet twisty.......Just you wait. Go to any new built homes if any in your area and ask for the scrap romax if you clean up the job site. I've never been turned down and I bring my own broom and shovel.
I didnt say a whole lot when everyone was collecting the solid penny's (good idea actually)...............I chuckled because those pennies are nothing to what i was and am getting from work.
I just thought for me collecting pennies was a waste of time when I'm taking home 200-500ft of scrap cat 6 cable a week. I'm sitting here looking at a 20 lb copper slug left over from a machine shop that was given to me. Heavy piece of scrap! You'd be amazed at what is thrown away.
If you come across any aluminum scrap grab it.
I'm sitting on about 300 lbs and about 70 lbs of brass bells taken out of old phones that just get e-wasted. Wife is tired of not being able to use the garage in the winter so this winter the scrap goes to the farm where my brother and I have an agreement to collect as much as we can and in the spring it will be time to sell.
By the way, hows the electrical schooling going?
If you are interested I'd get this book on electronics "Practical Electronics for Inventors" second edition by Paul Scherz.
It will take you all the way from understanding simple house wiring (including the schematics to the pole transformer) to digital electronics in toys to biasing analog amplifiers. Its well worth the 39.95. It did a better job of explaining electronics than the two year associates degree I have. It completely replaced all the books from college and some.