Remember this story - Wife calls cops on husband preparing for Martial Law

[General of Darkness]

This is from 2-11-10

http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO135300/

Well here's the update because the originally story just stunk of b.s. and I don't feel like posting it. Moral of the story, NEVER marry a psychiatrist or feminist.

Gregory Girard's Story.

I was the victim of several very serious crimes committed by my soon-to-be ex-wife and one of her book club friends. Her entire book club, comprised of 40-something radical feminist ultra-liberal city-dwelling woman despise me because I am conservative. My wife, who was a psychiatrist (M.D.), and in a very high profile leadership role in a Boston area medical facility, was the only one still married. They had been working on her to divorce me for some time. Ultimately they came up with a plan that would enable my wife to "get it all" and be a widow (first choice) or divorced. The goal was to have my son (16 at the time, and my son from a prior marriage) and I killed resisting a massive police raid -- wife was convinced we would resist. Wife gradually became more of a sociopath over the last few years and there were other incidents that were problematic. She was truly brialliant by any measure and at 45, had a physique and look that would have enabled her to be a Victoria's Secret model, and she was very successful at her work. All these gifts in one person are a burden that can have a severely corrupting influence on the mind, and it really did. This plan I mentioned was the result. The idea was that if I survived the incident, she would use her considerable credentialed influence to have me involuntary hospitalized by pulling all the right strings, using her connections, or if I ended up in jail, she would do everything possible to keep me there. The plan was complicated and it involved different roles for the two woman.

Those two woman set-up the police raid and took every possible action to incite the most force possible. Local police, state police, and BATF were all contacted and involved. There are NO LAWS AGAINST INDOOR RANGES IN MASSACHUSETTS even if they are in a condo complex. It is the unit owners responsibility if something goes wrong. There are no laws about parking too close to a gas meter either, even though if you lopped it off you could blow up the neighborhood. I live in a very large historical home built from the start as a duplex. We have one side of the house, thus it is the same as a single family in most respects. I was doing ductility testing on some aluminum plate samples to measure deformation relative to impact of various weights of 22LR bullets. It was small apparatus like you might see on CSI. It had been set up about 2 days before the raid and was related to collecting data to be used in the selection of materials that I would use in my work. It was completely enclosed for all the worry worts out there that wear plexiglass facemasks and helmets when they open champagne bottles. It was a NON-ISSUE in the whole matter. It is only an issue when someone does not know the law or makes other assumptions that are not true.

The police raid was massive with 23 local, state, and federal law enforcment officers evacuating the neighborhood area. Men with guns and surveillance vehicles were there. The TV crews all showed up, apparently called by the police. The cops when wild tearing the whole house the bits. After three hours they found nothing illegal. They took my 15 firearms "for safe keeping" because they have to suspend my Class A "License to Carry" so I did not have a valid license. My wife still did have her Class A License To Carry. That is a permit for conceal carry, high capacity, and all kinds of cool stuff. We both had one with no restrictions. But the coppers wanted to make publicity movies that are going to cost them quite a lot eventually.

Funny, the media made a huge deal out of 15 firearms and some other defensive supplies like body armor, batons, and cuffs. Essentially everything was described as illeagal and high powered, even the plate of metal on my bullet backstop. Must be that all this defensive gear, like rifle plate body armor, was intended for some terrible crime I had planned, like sailing internationally. I have a 43' long sailing yacht specifically outfitted for long distance (ocean-crossing) ocean voyages. There is an armory cabinet up near the bow and one near the stern. Each one has a rifle, shotgun and pistol, along with a baton, 4 sets of cuffs, ammo box, rifle plate body armor, level III helmet and face shield. You see, there are no police at sea, but there are plenty of criminals in the waters out and around many places looking to rape, rob, and pillage boats entering and leaving ports. And there is virtually never any one else around. The water is three miles deep. An unarmed crew virtually never survives, and even an armed crew are often wouned and could die because help can be days away. These defensive items made for a great survivalist story because they were stored for the winter in black storage bins in my house. My wife knew this and figured it would working into the overall theme she had conceived of the psychotic violent extremist. Among the stored gear were Coast Guard required smoke signaling devices. Perfect, she thought ---GRENADES! The are little smooth black spherical things with short neck that give off 30 seconds of non-toxic smoke. At the right time in the plan, they were described to the police as Green, and pear shaped and the looked like a pineaple. That is the description of the MK2 explosive fragmentation grenade that everyone who has ever seen a war movie is familiar with. The civilian and military term for the MK2 since WWII has been "the Pineaple"

It would take pages of description to tell the "meat" of the story. There are many twists and turns. There is not one single word ascribed to me by the media that I actually said. All those quotes were provided to the police by my wife and her friend as part of the plan to make me look totally gonzo. Just the same, I had to got to Bridgewater State Hospital for a 30 evaluation with all the real lunatics. They were the first to detect the farce and sent me back to jail with and evaluation that said NO SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF MENTAL ILLNESS and NO TREATMENT RECOMMENDED.

At one point, the Manchester-by-the-Sea Police had hit me with 14 ridiculously stupid felony charges and one misdemeanor. I could not get bail because of the Massachusetts 58A "dangerousness" statute, which would take a while to explain. It is unconstitutional. After 84 days in jail (30 days in Bridgewater), Bridgewater has officially declared all the outragous mental health allegations false and all but 2 charges were dismissed. I had no less than eight court hearings to attempt to get bail and my total legal fees were over $100,000. I had 2 homemade flash suppressors for use on the boat the police said were silencers, and the 500 foot shooting charge was only still in existance because it a $500 find misdemeanor that we could easily look up and show the judge did not apply to indoor ranges (indoor ranges are EXPLICITLY allowed). So, it was just the silencer charge. I had a trial date and felt I could easily prevail.

However, it was on that eight hearing that the judge made it rather clear that he "got it" about what was going on and that he was disinclined
to let this alleged silencer issue go to trial. He said to the DA and my lawyer "Isn't there some way we can just wrap this up right now?" The DA was a total ******* and was a another feminist gun-hater. She would not give an inch. My lawyer knew what the judge was looking for, and told me we are going to propose that this last charge be continued without a finding. But we needed to put some good consessions in so that the judge could represent he did not just vaporize the charge, but fully looked after the interests of the community. So we added a regular
psychiatric eval with reputable psychiatrist after release and a probationary period when I would not play with guns. When the probation is over, my license is reinstated and I can take possession of all my firearms. I retain a perfectly clean criminal record. It seemed like a much better deal that
hanging around rotting in jail for two more weeks waiting for a trial that had a chance of going wrong. I think the judge handled the part well.

I would urge my detractors and other critics to take moment to notice that did not break a single law at any time. You can be sure if I did,
the charges would not have been so easily dismissed or continued without a finding. I literally did NOTHING wrong.

That was the end. The cuffs came off and judge said "Mr. Girard, You'll have to find a new hobby for while. I wish you well."

He basically did just vaporize the last charge because just taking 4 years off (3.5 years now) is far preferable to risking an unpredictable
outcome at a trial that could give me a felony conviction. Chances are I would almost surely prevail; howevery the option the judge would
except of continuing without a finding ended that minute with no risk of tarnishing my record. It was a no-brainer.
Unfortunately, just about every other part of my life was totally destroyed. That is another tale to sad to tell.

After I was released, I had all my firearms and ammo transferred to a buddy. He is now in plinkers heaven enjoying them to their fullest.


Currently, a $10 million medical malpractice lawsuit against my wife (her insurance company) is being filed, likely in a few days. It tells the WHOLE story and is a great read. Since it will be publicly disclosed when filed, I would prefer to simply post it on this sight for those interested. Feel free to distributed it as widely as you like. You can read that to find out what this plan entailed and how it worked.

An official complaint to the Massachusetts Medical Licensing Board was filed about 2 weeks ago. It is likely the will revoke
her license to practice medicine, and that will apply all over the U.S. An Application for Criminal Complaint was filed a few weeks ago. The hearing was on Friday and the results will be available in a few days. The charge would be against my wife and her friend for BOMB THREAT WITH SERIOUS PUBLIC ALARM, and CONSPIRACY as it relates to that crime. The BOMB THREAT carries a minimum sentence of 3 years in prison, and a range of 3-20. CONSPIRACY significantly adds to it. The raid on my home was the largest in the history of the whole region. There will be an additional civil suit against my wife, her friend, and several others involved for an undisclosed sum after that.

For the record, I am a registered Republican with generally mainstream conservative views, perhaps Constitutionalists is the best description. I am not a "government conspiracy type," whatever that is, nor do I belong or or am active in any militia groups, though it would be might right to do so and I may choose to in the future. I am a long time NRA member and a member GOAL, which is the primary Massachusetts gun owners organization (Gun Owner's Action League). I was a Boy Scout for many years, and I am an avid ocean sailor and mountaineer, among other things.

[Twisted Titan]

I have a special wish for his soon to be Ex-Wife

Shamefully stolen off You Tube:


May she be skewered from eye socket to asshole then placed on a spit so that her flesh can be roasted by a searing gale of farts which issues forth from the haunches of Satan. Then,let her be hollowed out and used as a prophalactic for thorn cocked demons that squirt battery acid from their engorged Tallywhackers.


T

[Neuro]

One thing I wonder about though... Did this man have a work, or was he supported by his wife? Not that it matters in a legal sense. But I could see that she wouldn't like to share everything she had earned and saved over the years in a divorce with this avid sailor and mountaineer who used to be a boy scout for many years...

[Dogman]

One thing I wonder about though... Did this man have a work, or was he supported by his wife? Not that it matters in a legal sense. But I could see that she wouldn't like to share everything she had earned and saved over the years in a divorce with this avid sailor and mountaineer who used to be a boy scout for many years...


Web search says he is a technology consultant

And here is a link to the original article.


http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=27683&st=0

[General of Darkness]

How come I don't have a neighbor with an indoor firing range? How cool would that be? BTW - Check out the ORIGINAL media b.s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkfLJGCg_fQ&feature=player_embedded

This was on LewRockwell's site when it originally broke.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w142.html

[Carbon]

Reason #549 to not get married.

[gunDriller]

i remember this case.

i still don't entirely get it. i'm not sure if i want to.

i mean, i don't get the self-righteousness of the spouse, the wife in this case. it sounds like she played the system to make her husband look extra-bad.

what motivated her ? why would she want to screw her husband so totally ?

just think ... she's probably out on the singles scene. :o maybe even advertising on Craigslist :o :o

[Plastic]

I would have been arrested for aggravated murder within an hour of being released from jail.

[Tumbleweed]

How come I don't have a neighbor with an indoor firing range? How cool would that be? BTW - Check out the ORIGINAL media b.s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkfLJGCg_fQ&feature=player_embedded

This was on LewRockwell's site when it originally broke.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w142.html



I've got an indoor firing range. I was sitting in my easy chair finishing my fifth beer when I saw a mouse sitttng by the leg of the couch. I had an old remington .22 pump loaded with l.R. cartridges. I jacked one in and shot him. thought I'd take a photo to commemorate the event. I've got good carpet and it doesn't show the bullet holes.

[palani]

I jacked one in and shot him. thought I'd take a photo to commemorate the event. I've got good carpet and it doesn't show the bullet holes.


Got a taxidermist in the area?

[Ponce]

I just love that photo...........the great white hunter hahahahahahahahahah

[Tumbleweed]

No need for a taxidermist it was fresh meat fot the kettle. the secret ingrediant ;)

[etc]

My mentally ill wife called police on me yesterday.

Because we could not agree on the time for the 3 year old to go to bed at. It was 10:30 on a weekend and I let him stay up a little and finish watching a movie. She turned it off, I turned it back on as he was hysterical. She went to the phone and called them.

It was just a petty, vindictive thing that women do. Cruel and immature. There are a lot of crazy people out there and next to you as well.

The LEOs told me to have her mentally evaluated... This is the 3rd time this happened.

[Book]

One thing I wonder about though... Did this man have a work, or was he supported by his wife? Not that it matters in a legal sense. But I could see that she wouldn't like to share everything she had earned and saved over the years in a divorce with this avid sailor and mountaineer who used to be a boy scout for many years...


Reverse the gender and Doctor's ex-wives usually are supported and get at least half in divorce.

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[Book]

I've got an indoor firing range. I was sitting in my easy chair finishing my fifth beer when I saw a mouse sitting by the leg of the couch. I had an old remington .22 pump loaded with l.R. cartridges. I jacked one in and shot him. thought I'd take a photo to commemorate the event. I've got good carpet and it doesn't show the bullet holes.



Your story and photo deserve a GSUS POST OF THE MONTH award. Most enjoyable!

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[k-os]

My mentally ill wife called police on me yesterday.

Because we could not agree on the time for the 3 year old to go to bed at. It was 10:30 on a weekend and I let him stay up a little and finish watching a movie. She turned it off, I turned it back on as he was hysterical. She went to the phone and called them.

It was just a petty, vindictive thing that women do. Cruel and immature. There are a lot of crazy people out there and next to you as well.

The LEOs told me to have her mentally evaluated... This is the 3rd time this happened.



There is so much about this that is disturbing.

[willie pete]

11 rifles 2 handguns? ...I'm more than half-way there :D

"we have GREAT concern with the sheer number of weapons" & "we feel safer having this type of weaponary off the street" ...it was NEVER on the street you douche-bag "we certainly hope Mr. Girad gets the help he needs" ... :D :D Holy Moly.....IF that's an indication of needing help.....then there are millions of people that need rehab..... :D :D

[Libertarian_Guard]

I've got an indoor firing range. I was sitting in my easy chair finishing my fifth beer when I saw a mouse sitting by the leg of the couch. I had an old remington .22 pump loaded with l.R. cartridges. I jacked one in and shot him. thought I'd take a photo to commemorate the event. I've got good carpet and it doesn't show the bullet holes.



Your story and photo deserve a GSUS POST OF THE MONTH award. Most enjoyable!

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Tumbleweed is even more enjoyable if you can imagine the sound of Jed Clampett's voice while reading his posts.

[milehi]

I've got an indoor firing range. I was sitting in my easy chair finishing my fifth beer when I saw a mouse sitting by the leg of the couch. I had an old remington .22 pump loaded with l.R. cartridges. I jacked one in and shot him. thought I'd take a photo to commemorate the event. I've got good carpet and it doesn't show the bullet holes.



Your story and photo deserve a GSUS POST OF THE MONTH award. Most enjoyable!

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Tumbleweed is even more enjoyable if you can imagine the sound of Jed Clampett's voice while reading his posts.


If you can read his posts, you're in range ;D

[Spectrism]

I think that psychiatrist broad was probably converted to lesbian perversion.

She sure has a gun phobia.

[Neuro]

I think that psychiatrist broad was probably converted to lesbian perversion.

She sure has a gun phobia.
She does have a gun permit though...

I don't know this guys writing gives some weird vibes...

[Spectrism]

I think that psychiatrist broad was probably converted to lesbian perversion.

She sure has a gun phobia.
She does have a gun permit though...

I don't know this guys writing gives some weird vibes...


Hmmm... other kind of "gun" phobia. The extra years of education in the phobic world of liberal indoctrinations -psychiatry even- have helped her to become a male-phobic, socialist, system tool.

[Neuro]

I think that psychiatrist broad was probably converted to lesbian perversion.

She sure has a gun phobia.
She does have a gun permit though...

I don't know this guys writing gives some weird vibes...


Hmmm... other kind of "gun" phobia. The extra years of education in the phobic world of liberal indoctrinations -psychiatry even- have helped her to become a male-phobic, socialist, system tool.
ahh that gun?

[Twisted Titan]

My mentally ill wife called police on me yesterday.

Because we could not agree on the time for the 3 year old to go to bed at. It was 10:30 on a weekend and I let him stay up a little and finish watching a movie. She turned it off, I turned it back on as he was hysterical. She went to the phone and called them.

It was just a petty, vindictive thing that women do. Cruel and immature. There are a lot of crazy people out there and next to you as well.

The LEOs told me to have her mentally evaluated... This is the 3rd time this happened.




That one aint gonna end well for you................Im speaking from experince

Mental disease is nothing to play with especially when it issue forth from a vindictive woman.

My foolish advice:

Start to move essential things out the house that you hold dear ( ie guns, muntions and hard currency) keep one defensive pistol in the house. Just as easily as she called the cops for that she could have said you attacked her with a gunn.

Start to know the laws about legal custody of your child ( if you maried her you joint coustody by default if not the mother is the primary custodian)

Make provsions to get established in your own personal residence.

I know this sounds extreme but if you stay in something that is destructive three lives will be destroyed instead of one.

If you need additional guidence on what to do PM me.


T

[Spectrism]

How does anyone even marry someone who is so different in worldview? Any partnership must be settled on some basic principles. It sounds like they were just flesh partners.

[Cebu_4_2]

My mentally ill wife called police on me yesterday.

Because we could not agree on the time for the 3 year old to go to bed at. It was 10:30 on a weekend and I let him stay up a little and finish watching a movie. She turned it off, I turned it back on as he was hysterical. She went to the phone and called them.

It was just a petty, vindictive thing that women do. Cruel and immature. There are a lot of crazy people out there and next to you as well.

The LEOs told me to have her mentally evaluated... This is the 3rd time this happened.




That one aint gonna end well for you................Im speaking from experince

Mental disease is nothing to play with especially when it issue forth from a vindictive woman.

My foolish advice:

Start to move essential things out the house that you hold dear ( ie guns, muntions and hard currency) keep one defensive pistol in the house. Just as easily as she called the cops for that she could have said you attacked her with a gunn.

Start to know the laws about legal custody of your child ( if you maried her you joint coustody by default if not the mother is the primary custodian)

Make provsions to get established in your own personal residence.

I know this sounds extreme but if you stay in something that is destructive three lives will be destroyed instead of one.

If you need additional guidence on what to do PM me.


T


Been there done that, mine chose to call me out before the kid was 1 year old. She planned everything and cleaned my fvcking clock. She quit work to be a full time stay at home mom (big red flag). It was all about destroying me and my world, the kid wasn't even a consideration for her. From calling the cops and getting a restraining order to meticulously writing stories as if they were real to take in front of the court. One thing that saved me from jail was taping conversations around the house while I was at work so I had a heads up. During one raging psycho session I had a recorder in my pocket as she attacked me with the baby in her arms, I called the feds and let them hear the tape. Say bubye biatch. She had to move out and I got to stay at the house, long story short I filed for full custody and requested mental exams for everyone which she refused. About 275K later I am still here, me and my son have a great relationship and for whatever reason she is afraid of me now and we kinda get along. Strange how it all worked out but it's much better than weathering that mental storm. Very unstable, jealous, thoughts were reality and a financial Bernanke... glad that's all done lol.

[Heimdhal]

All these stories make me love my marriage that much more. Sounds like a lot of people rushed into a wife and kids and had NO clue what they were doing with either.


Dont get me wrong, Fanta and I can piss each other off pretty damn good, and we do on occasion, but after 9 years, its gonna happen once or twice.

[General of Darkness]

All these stories make me love my marriage that much more. Sounds like a lot of people rushed into a wife and kids and had NO clue what they were doing with either.


Dont get me wrong, Fanta and I can piss each other off pretty damn good, and we do on occasion, but after 9 years, its gonna happen once or twice.


I could use a Fanta. ;D

http://www.indango.com/buzz/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/asin_genelia_miranda_fanta-400x400.jpg

[etc]

Been there done that, mine chose to call me out before the kid was 1 year old. She planned everything and cleaned my fvcking clock. She quit work to be a full time stay at home mom (big red flag). It was all about destroying me and my world, the kid wasn't even a consideration for her.



My 3 year old is afraid of her and runs to me now. We are a bilingual family. She teaches him her language (a Eastern European one) and I teach him mainstream and he totally doesn't listen to her, which makes her mad. She is already on the periphery of things.

[1970 silver art]

I would like to think all of you that posted on this thread for reminding me to NEVER get married and to NEVER father any children. I do not know how all of you guys put up with this crap but you are all stronger than me. I am so happy that I am single and I am very happy that I do not have to deal with children.

[solid]

I would like to think all of you that posted on this thread for reminding me to NEVER get married and to NEVER father any children. I do not know how all of you guys put up with this crap but you are all stronger than me. I am so happy that I am single and I am very happy that I do not have to deal with children.


Having been though in the past a 3 year relationship with a BPD gal, the amount of mental manipulation and abuse a guy can go through..I understand it all to well. Took years to undue the damage that gal caused me.

I never plan on getting married either. I read somewhere that 80% of all cases of mental illnesses, whether BPD or depression, are with women.

There is a lot of them out there, and they leave a path of destruction in their wake. Way to much drama for me.

Life is great if a guy can fly under the radar and stay away from those gals.

[Heimdhal]

I would like to think all of you that posted on this thread for reminding me to NEVER get married and to NEVER father any children. I do not know how all of you guys put up with this crap but you are all stronger than me. I am so happy that I am single and I am very happy that I do not have to deal with children.


Because not all relationships and not all women are like this. You only hear about the bad ones, cause you usualy wont hear a guy screaming and bitching about how awesome everything is ;D

[chad]

what heimdahl said. i can't think of even one thing to complain about in regards to my wife. maybe that she dicks around in the bathroom a lot, but that's about it. ;D

[etc]

Having been though in the past a 3 year relationship with a BPD gal, the amount of mental manipulation and abuse a guy can go through..I understand it all to well. Took years to undue the damage that gal caused me.



My spouse probably has BPD, manic depressive and paranoid schizophrenic disorder. She told the "law" her 3 year old son abuses her, when she called them in at 11:30pm when he wouldn't sleep and keep watching Toy Story movie. Somehow she connected it all to me, supposedly I make him do that.

After which *they* (the "law") talked to me and gave me the address of the place to have her head get examined.

Truth is, she showed massive signs of mental illness when I was just dating her. I just didn't connect the dots and didn't consider how deep it ran. Was in denial. People think it cannot happen to me, and it's not "her", or it's just one time and probably won't happen again.

Went to meet her in Moscow one time. We were riding in the subway and all of a sudden she jumped up and abruptly exited the train, leaving me behind. I didn't even say anything. When I reconnected later with her, she said I looked at her the wrong way and that's why she left.
I read the language and the signs but it was an unfamiliar environment and had to navigate my way around with a map.
Should have went straight to the airport as I was really tempted to do.
It was a basically the beginning of it all and a prelude of things to come.

[sirgonzo420]

Having been though in the past a 3 year relationship with a BPD gal, the amount of mental manipulation and abuse a guy can go through..I understand it all to well. Took years to undue the damage that gal caused me.



My spouse probably has BPD, manic depressive and paranoid schizophrenic disorder. She told the "law" her 3 year old son abuses her, when she called them in at 11:30pm when he wouldn't sleep and keep watching Toy Story movie. Somehow she connected it all to me, supposedly I make him do that.

After which *they* (the "law") talked to me and gave me the address of the place to have her head get examined.

Truth is, she showed massive signs of mental illness when I was just dating her. I just didn't connect the dots and didn't consider how deep it ran. Was in denial. People think it cannot happen to me, and it's not "her", or it's just one time and probably won't happen again.

Went to meet her in Moscow one time. We were riding in the subway and all of a sudden she jumped up and abruptly exited the train, leaving me behind. I didn't even say anything. When I reconnected later with her, she said I looked at her the wrong way and that's why she left.
I read the language and the signs but it was an unfamiliar environment and had to navigate my way around with a map.
Should have went straight to the airport as I was really tempted to do.
It was a basically the beginning of it all and a prelude of things to come.




I take it mail-order brides don't come with money-back guarantees?

:P

[solid]

My spouse probably has BPD, manic depressive and paranoid schizophrenic disorder. She told the "law" her 3 year old son abuses her, when she called them in at 11:30pm when he wouldn't sleep and keep watching Toy Story movie. Somehow she connected it all to me, supposedly I make him do that.

After which *they* (the "law") talked to me and gave me the address of the place to have her head get examined.y



In my case, I was young and just broke free the gal's grasp, took off to Europe for a month and had the time of my life. Never looked back.

If I were you, I'd get her head examined and actually document everything. The law is stacked against men, however with each false call to the PD, those do get documented each time. Each "cry wolf" call so to speak, helps show what you are dealing with..

Man...just don't let this gal manipulate YOUR head. Which is what happened to me. These women are mental vampires, they have a way of making you feel like the greatest guy on the planet one moment, then just like a light-switch, make you feel like the worst person ever.

The gal I was with, would wake up screaming at me in the middle of the night, with migraine headaches...she had me believe that I was the cause of her pain. I felt like the worst person because of that.

Never again. I am thankful even to this day I was able to escape.

[Hillbilly]

I've had experience with being with a woman who had Borderline Personality Disorder. It the worst after a while you think you're nuts and it's all your fault. Until I read the symptoms and realized shit she is the one that is nuts. Here they are, save your selves now while you still can.

1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars (excoriation) or picking at oneself.
6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness
8. Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms










Having been though in the past a 3 year relationship with a BPD gal, the amount of mental manipulation and abuse a guy can go through..I understand it all to well. Took years to undue the damage that gal caused me.



My spouse probably has BPD, manic depressive and paranoid schizophrenic disorder. She told the "law" her 3 year old son abuses her, when she called them in at 11:30pm when he wouldn't sleep and keep watching Toy Story movie. Somehow she connected it all to me, supposedly I make him do that.

After which *they* (the "law") talked to me and gave me the address of the place to have her head get examined.

Truth is, she showed massive signs of mental illness when I was just dating her. I just didn't connect the dots and didn't consider how deep it ran. Was in denial. People think it cannot happen to me, and it's not "her", or it's just one time and probably won't happen again.

Went to meet her in Moscow one time. We were riding in the subway and all of a sudden she jumped up and abruptly exited the train, leaving me behind. I didn't even say anything. When I reconnected later with her, she said I looked at her the wrong way and that's why she left.
I read the language and the signs but it was an unfamiliar environment and had to navigate my way around with a map.
Should have went straight to the airport as I was really tempted to do.
It was a basically the beginning of it all and a prelude of things to come.

[Book]

http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/womenbodybuilders/11.jpg

Skip the mental types and just find a nice normal girl who enjoys sports and stuff.

:D

[Cebu_4_2]

http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/womenbodybuilders/11.jpg

Skip the mental types and just find a nice normal girl who enjoys sports and stuff.

:D


Another interesting thread gone to hell... eeek

[zap]

http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/womenbodybuilders/11.jpg

Skip the mental types and just find a nice normal girl who enjoys sports and stuff.

:D


That is just so gross.

Sorry you guys keep finding crazy girls, must not be looking for the crazy signs. :(

[cedarchopper]

My spouse probably has BPD, manic depressive and paranoid schizophrenic disorder. She told the "law" her 3 year old son abuses her, when she called them in at 11:30pm when he wouldn't sleep and keep watching Toy Story movie. Somehow she connected it all to me, supposedly I make him do that.

After which *they* (the "law") talked to me and gave me the address of the place to have her head get examined.y



In my case, I was young and just broke free the gal's grasp, took off to Europe for a month and had the time of my life. Never looked back.

If I were you, I'd get her head examined and actually document everything. The law is stacked against men, however with each false call to the PD, those do get documented each time. Each "cry wolf" call so to speak, helps show what you are dealing with..

Man...just don't let this gal manipulate YOUR head. Which is what happened to me. These women are mental vampires, they have a way of making you feel like the greatest guy on the planet one moment, then just like a light-switch, make you feel like the worst person ever.

The gal I was with, would wake up screaming at me in the middle of the night, with migraine headaches...she had me believe that I was the cause of her pain. I felt like the worst person because of that.

Never again. I am thankful even to this day I was able to escape.


Yes, he needs to follow up on the mental evaluation as recommended and document everything...and keep his mouth shut. All this may be the difference between him getting shafted in a dispute or divorce and being the sane parent ready to act in the child's best interest...with full custody if he chooses.

[gunny highway]

4 years probation? did i read that right? that's an awful long time if you didn't break any laws. me thinks there is more to this than he's saying.

[k-os]

Book, that has got to be one of the most disturbing photo of a woman ever posted on here. I even prefer the super fat fatties to the one in that picture. Ugh, I need eye bleach.

Back on topic . . .

There are lots of crazy bitches out there, for sure. The cruel joke that God has played on men, is that the crazy ones are the most fun in bed. At least that's what I have been told.

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.


Admit it, you did it all for the nookie.;D

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.

[sirgonzo420]

Book, that has got to be one of the most disturbing photo of a woman ever posted on here. I even prefer the super fat fatties to the one in that picture. Ugh, I need eye bleach.

Back on topic . . .

There are lots of crazy bitches out there, for sure. The cruel joke that God has played on men, is that the crazy ones are the most fun in bed. At least that's what I have been told.

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.


Admit it, you did it all for the nookie.;D

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.


K-os, you're one smart cat!

:)

http://cdn.erictric.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cougar.jpg

[Hillbilly]

A woman admitting that women screw men up. I love it I need to print this out and laminate it.




Book, that has got to be one of the most disturbing photo of a woman ever posted on here. I even prefer the super fat fatties to the one in that picture. Ugh, I need eye bleach.

Back on topic . . .

There are lots of crazy bitches out there, for sure. The cruel joke that God has played on men, is that the crazy ones are the most fun in bed. At least that's what I have been told.

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.


Admit it, you did it all for the nookie.;D

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.

[cedarchopper]

Crazy women are like water on a man's back :)...they can go ape shit crazy, but once you shake them off, all is well. This lasting damage business from women is myth. 8)

[solid]

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.


Wait...relationships are complicated enough, yet men are so simple it's sad? Shouldn't relationships be easy then? ;D

Truth is we are all completely complex in our own ways. By saying men are simple, it's just a way of putting up a barrier to actually getting to know the man. Lumping all men as 'simple' is an easy out.

The thing is to learn from life and grow in a positive way.

With crazy women, you never get to know them. Even years later, the mood swings, constant drama and mind manipulation cloud everything. You never really learn who they are, there is so many barriers in place.

If anything, it teaches those of us that have gone through it....the value of good women. When you go through a lot of bad ones, you want to learn about the good gals. You appreciate the good ones that come through life 100x more.

That's the most important thing in life, is to allow good people into it. Bad people have a way of bringing good folks down with them. I'd much rather a have even just a few folks I can trust my life with, than 100 people I just didn't take the time to get to know.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.


Wait...relationships are complicated enough, yet men are so simple it's sad? Shouldn't relationships be easy then? ;D

Truth is we are all completely complex in our own ways. By saying men are simple, it's just a way of putting up a barrier to actually getting to know the man. Lumping all men as 'simple' is an easy out.

The thing is to learn from life and grow in a positive way.

With crazy women, you never get to know them. Even years later, the mood swings, constant drama and mind manipulation cloud everything. You never really learn who they are, there is so many barriers in place.

If anything, it teaches those of us that have gone through it....the value of good women. When you go through a lot of bad ones, you want to learn about the good gals. You appreciate the good ones that come through life 100x more.

That's the most important thing in life, is to allow good people into it. Bad people have a way of bringing good folks down with them. I'd much rather a have even just a few folks I can trust my life with, than 100 people I just didn't take the time to get to know.


Well said Solid, very well said!

[General of Darkness]

Book, that has got to be one of the most disturbing photo of a woman ever posted on here. I even prefer the super fat fatties to the one in that picture. Ugh, I need eye bleach.

Back on topic . . .

There are lots of crazy bitches out there, for sure. The cruel joke that God has played on men, is that the crazy ones are the most fun in bed. At least that's what I have been told.

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.


Admit it, you did it all for the nookie.;D

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.


Shouldn't you be in the kitchen making me a sandwich? ;D

[zap]

Women may be so complicated that we don't even understand ourselves sometimes, but men can be so simple that it's almost sad.

By the way, this is the primary reason why I like to date younger men - because they are less likely to have been damaged by some crazy chick or worse, an ex-wife. Relationships are complicated enough to begin with. Add into that the guy who thinks that all women are crazy . . . and there is just no room for anything to develop.


Wait...relationships are complicated enough, yet men are so simple it's sad? Shouldn't relationships be easy then? ;D

Truth is we are all completely complex in our own ways. By saying men are simple, it's just a way of putting up a barrier to actually getting to know the man. Lumping all men as 'simple' is an easy out.

The thing is to learn from life and grow in a positive way.

With crazy women, you never get to know them. Even years later, the mood swings, constant drama and mind manipulation cloud everything. You never really learn who they are, there is so many barriers in place.

If anything, it teaches those of us that have gone through it....the value of good women. When you go through a lot of bad ones, you want to learn about the good gals. You appreciate the good ones that come through life 100x more.

That's the most important thing in life, is to allow good people into it. Bad people have a way of bringing good folks down with them. I'd much rather a have even just a few folks I can trust my life with, than 100 people I just didn't take the time to get to know.


So funny Solid, I had a very complicated man (drama lol), Me, I am pretty simple cut and dry, black is black and white is white.

I think the biggest thing you need in any relationship is trust and honesty, even if the truth hurts just say what you mean and mean what you say, no beating around the bush, You can weed out alot of the losers if you are honest right up front.

(and don't try to over think it, that will screw you right up ;))

Just my 2 cents.