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Luis337
9th November 2010, 11:21 AM
A little today...a little tomorrow...
Around $4,500 to play with.
I was thinking 2 ounces of gold and the rest in silver.
chad
9th November 2010, 11:22 AM
all in silver.
Spectrism
9th November 2010, 11:30 AM
You said dry powder. You got me thinking.... I need to get some powder for reloading. Sure does make for flexibility. ;)
zusn
9th November 2010, 11:31 AM
all in silver.
I concur
Luis337
9th November 2010, 11:34 AM
no palladium?
Libertytree
9th November 2010, 11:35 AM
You said dry powder. You got me thinking.... I need to get some powder for reloading. Sure does make for flexibility. ;)
Thinking the same thing myself, time to double up on ammo and food. The metals will be manipulated down "again" and some fleecing will occur, then I'll think about adding to my junk stash.
chad
9th November 2010, 11:37 AM
i wouldn't. not with the premium tacked on. i expect it'd be well over $800 an ounce. all time high is around $1,100.
unless you're crazy like neuro and i though. we are waiting for $10,000 cold fusion palladium. ;D
Ponce
9th November 2010, 11:39 AM
All in silver.........
Cebu_4_2
9th November 2010, 05:43 PM
Agreed silver is way low for what it should be.
milehi
9th November 2010, 06:03 PM
Another vote for silver. My trigger to trade the ratio was 47:1, but things are happening so fast, I 've decided to hold off and sit on the sidelines and watch the show.
osoab
9th November 2010, 06:30 PM
I would buy about 1.5 ounces of gold. Small fractionals. The cheaper the better.
The remainder in silver.
A roll of eagles, just because.
Maybe a couple of 10 ouncers to clang around.
A few Morgans or Peace Dollars for nostalgia.
At least a roll of generic rounds to play with. You should really contemplate this need.
Round out the rest in Junk.
You looking to DCA in Luis or are you diving in head first?
RJB
9th November 2010, 06:40 PM
A little today...a little tomorrow...
Around $4,500 to play with.
I was thinking 2 ounces of gold and the rest in silver.
I'd go heavier in silver, especially if you have NO PMs. If you already have a pile, a little palladium wouldn't be bad, but palladium is not suppressed like silver. So palladium's price is real while silver is artificially low.
Again if you have no PMs gold and silver should be where you start with big emphasis on silver. Just MHO.
Heimdhal
9th November 2010, 06:55 PM
I get a firearm or two first, but I'd wait to for the down leg. You know theres one coming. Yes, were all happy silver is rocketing up, and yes it likley can go much higher and SHOULD be much higher, but that doesnt negate the fact that it is wholly manipulated and there WILL be a down spike and sell off, probably similar to what we saw in 08.
Why buy at peak market for anything when you know its more likley to NOT stay at this price than it is to stay here forever and only go up.
just my .02
Gun prices are coming down though, so I'd take a peak at something on that end. ;D
Book
9th November 2010, 09:42 PM
Buy more Preps.
k-os
9th November 2010, 09:45 PM
I get a firearm or two first, but I'd wait to for the down leg. You know theres one coming. Yes, were all happy silver is rocketing up, and yes it likley can go much higher and SHOULD be much higher, but that doesnt negate the fact that it is wholly manipulated and there WILL be a down spike and sell off, probably similar to what we saw in 08.
Why buy at peak market for anything when you know its more likley to NOT stay at this price than it is to stay here forever and only go up.
just my .02
Gun prices are coming down though, so I'd take a peak at something on that end. ;D
I agree with you, and probably a bunch of other people agree with you too, but there is no guarantee of a smackdown ahead.
Think about the people who wouldn't buy gold at $975 because it was too high. I know a couple of people who wouldn't. They waited and waited and never found an opportunity to jump in. Do you think we'll see $975 gold again? And if so, do you believe there will be gold available at that price for purchase?
I just think it's important to think about all possibilities.
Luis337, I think you should do dollar cost averaging, as has been previously advised in this thread. I'd say 25% in gold fractionals, as small as possible without incurring too much of a premium, 25% junk silver (dimes/quarters), and 50% in SAEs. Buy some each month.
It's not as gut wrenching and exciting as putting it all on "22" on a roulette wheel, but it's not as much of a gamble either. Precious metals can be an investment if you are smart and patient. They can be a storage of value if you prefer safety. And they can be a gamble if you are impatient or foolish. That is not to say that gambling never pays off . . . just that it comes with more risk.
Libertytree
9th November 2010, 10:25 PM
Lou, with $4500 you can afford to spread it all out with food, water purifier, guns/ammo, metals, gen preps. Where you're at isn't exactly the best place to be either, a good bugout plan might be worth its weight in gold too.
MAGNES
9th November 2010, 11:44 PM
I'd wait for a massive correction, then place an order fast,
and hope there is silver. If I make an impact on your decision
I hope I ain't wrong. ;D
DYODD, do your own due diligence .
Whatever you do don't freak out later.
Especially if there is no silver to buy.
Or if what you bought's paper price gets clobbered.
But be consoled in knowing many are going to be
sh*t out of luck buying.
In short, pretend like you didn't read this.
no palladium?
palladium :oo--> , you cannot make vampire killer bullets out of palladium Luis, only silver
Luis, I'd buy silver right after Christmas but before new years.
That's what I would do if I was buying. I get physical, good
drop days period. In 2008 the physical really did disappear.
It's going to be uglier next round.
k-os
9th November 2010, 11:55 PM
I like what MAGNES said. It's probably how we all feel about giving you advice.
I've been quite lucky with my gold purchases, but my silver purchases, not so much. It seems I'd buy at a high and then watch it fall and fall.
But guess what! My silver purchases seem wise now, in hindsight, and in this nice bull run we have had.
Luis337, if the money isn't marked for something (rent, gas, etc.) then DYODD, then using that information, do what your brain and gut tell you to do, and ride it out. If the money is needed for something in the near future (within the next two years), then be more cautious.
MAGNES
10th November 2010, 12:00 AM
Kos is crazy , just kidding ;D, maybe not agreeing with me, i do no.
I am trying to have some fun too.
Everybody is wrong sometimes and right sometimes.
Who knows what is going to happen short term ?
The no brainer is silver hands down for physical.
Even with a major correction you still need some luck.
Whatever happens don't sweat it.
Some good advice above on preps and silver.
Mouse
10th November 2010, 12:11 AM
Silver, Gold, metals are subject to high volatility, gov controls and taxes. If you haven't met your basic level of preps that should come first. Once you have that, or if you think you have the cash flow to do that soon (like tomorrow), then put in your investables into the metals. You must have a cushion of however many months of your living expenses you think you could need for unemployed spells, and your preps in order. The rest is yours to protect.
Gaillo
10th November 2010, 01:20 AM
Armaments. Water and water purification equipment. Food. Clothing. Shelter. Rinse, lather, repeat until you're convinced you'll be able to ride out the upcoming crash. Then, and only then, buy physical SILVER... Silver, and then some more silver. Don't be afraid to add a side of Silver. Once the silver/gold ratio closes to 30:1, start adding Gold to the mix, gradually increasing your Gold holdings as the ratio gets closer to the historical norm of 16:1, at which point you should be buying them equally by dollar amount (50% of money going for Silver, 50% going for Gold). My opinion, anyway... based on nothing more than gut feel, experience, and personal action.
cthulu
10th November 2010, 01:25 AM
Hookers and blow. This experience will last a lifetime. ;D
steyr_m
10th November 2010, 09:02 AM
A little today...a little tomorrow...
Around $4,500 to play with.
I was thinking 2 ounces of gold and the rest in silver.
I agree with other posters here too. All in silver. I've traded in gold to buy silver 1-2 months ago. What the heck is "dry powder"?
mick silver
10th November 2010, 09:34 AM
i am starting to think i should have used the paper i used for silver an gold and brought a boat load more of food . the way the world moving the people of the usa maybe allow to die . food would control the world in time...................
Luis337
10th November 2010, 10:05 AM
I would buy about 1.5 ounces of gold. Small fractionals. The cheaper the better.
The remainder in silver.
A roll of eagles, just because.
Maybe a couple of 10 ouncers to clang around.
A few Morgans or Peace Dollars for nostalgia.
At least a roll of generic rounds to play with. You should really contemplate this need.
Round out the rest in Junk.
You looking to DCA in Luis or are you diving in head first?
I was looking to get at least one ounce of gold.
I wanted two actually, but silver is very tempting.
I'm likely going to dive in head first.
Luis337
10th November 2010, 10:07 AM
A little today...a little tomorrow...
Around $4,500 to play with.
I was thinking 2 ounces of gold and the rest in silver.
I'd go heavier in silver, especially if you have NO PMs. If you already have a pile, a little palladium wouldn't be bad, but palladium is not suppressed like silver. So palladium's price is real while silver is artificially low.
Again if you have no PMs gold and silver should be where you start with big emphasis on silver. Just MHO.
I have about 1 lbs worth of PM's so I'm trying to increase the weight. = P
Luis337
10th November 2010, 10:22 AM
Heimy, I'm working my way up on the gunz. I got a cheap pocket knife for now.
Seriously, $1 at wal-mart. I might buy a firearm though.
K-os, my current stash of dry powder is the result of saving up every month for
purchases meant for PM's. They were supposed to happen every month
but I never used them so now that they've accumulated I wanted to get rid of them.
Magnes, I definitely remember the lack of silver not too long ago...which is one reason why I wanted to dive right in now. I'm hoping it's not going to disappear soon.
chad
10th November 2010, 10:26 AM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
sirgonzo420
10th November 2010, 11:58 AM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Ole JC couldn'ta said it better himself!
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. - Luke 22:36
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 12:02 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Im completley and fully concur and would like to emphasize that a 1$ pocket knife from wal-mart will NOT suffice as your main defensive weapon in any real self defence situation, SHTF or not. Living in the city that you live in you might as well just jam that knife into yourself and tap out if SHTF in south florida.
RJB
10th November 2010, 12:13 PM
I didn't realize you were low on preps.
A gun will be worth MORE than it's weight as a treasure. Why? How else will you defend your stash of silver, throw SAEs?
Buy a gun and a few hundred bullets or your stash is worthless.
undgrd
10th November 2010, 12:18 PM
Buy a gun and a few thousand bullets or your stash is worthless.
Fixed it for ya
k-os
10th November 2010, 12:26 PM
I just don't see Luis337 as being there yet, guys. He's young and just discovered beer, for goodness sake. Zombies are a potential only in the movies he watches. I think it's sweet and although he should absolutely start thinking seriously about the future at some point, I don't want to tarnish his innocence too soon. :-\
I tried for about 6 months to get him to go to Appleseed. If he wouldn't just go to one that was basically in his neighborhood, then he is probably not going to buy a gun. What good is a gun if you are completely unprepared to use it? At least he could barter with metals.
RJB
10th November 2010, 12:28 PM
Buy a gun and a few thousand bullets or your stash is worthless.
Fixed it for ya
He's getting started. If he needs practice, a few thousand would be good. If he's accurate, a few hundred would be fine.
chud
10th November 2010, 01:15 PM
This is a great thread, lots of good info.
I'm still not sure what dry powder is though. Federal Reserve Notes?
Ponce
10th November 2010, 01:16 PM
My take on this is........."Buy today what you will not find tomorrow".........the reason for saying this is that I took $10,000 to Cuba to fix my dad's home (may he rest in peace) and even with yankee dollars I was not able to find the material to do it with.............and that's why I have extra paint and roofing material in case the wind blows my roof off later on, also paint, nails, screws and so on..........get plenty of 12X20 plastic covers at the $1.00 store.....you may have to live under one of them........also good to close out large areas in the house that you are not using, to cover windows as double insulation, if you have high ceilings then bring it down with the plastic cover and you will have less area to heat up.
You will find out that "The Day After Today" will not be like today and where you will find yourself in a new stadium playing a new game BY THEIR RULES.
Shut down you gas,water and power for one week and live as you might live tomorrow in order to get an idea of what you will have to do..........just remember this, what will happen will not be for a day, week or month and will last for maybe even decades........even if this is not true is better to be prepared than not.
sirgonzo420
10th November 2010, 01:21 PM
This is a great thread, lots of good info.
I'm still not sure what dry powder is though. Federal Reserve Notes?
"Dry powder" is being colloquially used here to mean "currency" or "capital" or "money".
chud
10th November 2010, 01:38 PM
Thanks Gonzo. ^^^
A gun will be worth MORE than it's weight as a treasure. Why? How else will you defend your stash of silver, throw SAEs?
Buy a gun and a few hundred bullets or your stash is worthless.
I only have a few guns, but I was thinking a nice addition to my inventory would be a bow and arrow. It would allow you to eliminate intruders quietly, without drawing much attention. Then just grab the shovel and shut up. ;)
DMac
10th November 2010, 01:47 PM
Every home requires at least 1 firearm. To not have (at least)1 per house is irresponsible in my book.
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 01:48 PM
I just don't see Luis337 as being there yet, guys. He's young and just discovered beer, for goodness sake. Zombies are a potential only in the movies he watches. I think it's sweet and although he should absolutely start thinking seriously about the future at some point, I don't want to tarnish his innocence too soon. :-\
I tried for about 6 months to get him to go to Appleseed. If he wouldn't just go to one that was basically in his neighborhood, then he is probably not going to buy a gun. What good is a gun if you are completely unprepared to use it? At least he could barter with metals.
Mrs. Luis's Mommy, is it ok if Luis comes over to play this weekend? Were gonna watch carebear videos and have a tea party later.
;D
Ponce
10th November 2010, 01:50 PM
Already have it, including cross bow, Katana and a lot more........some of my own design and not in the market.
In my inner fence, ten feet away from my home and all the way around it, I will place some cement blocks (home made) that are are 1X3X24" and incrusted with broke bottles glass.....an invader will see this and try to avoid them by steping around them and that's when they will step into my 12X12X12" cover up hole with one six inch nail in the center..........I have 100 of the cement blocks put away, the booby trap holes will come later.
Have a few more tricks of the trade that I won't post ;D
k-os
10th November 2010, 02:23 PM
I just don't see Luis337 as being there yet, guys. He's young and just discovered beer, for goodness sake. Zombies are a potential only in the movies he watches. I think it's sweet and although he should absolutely start thinking seriously about the future at some point, I don't want to tarnish his innocence too soon. :-\
I tried for about 6 months to get him to go to Appleseed. If he wouldn't just go to one that was basically in his neighborhood, then he is probably not going to buy a gun. What good is a gun if you are completely unprepared to use it? At least he could barter with metals.
Mrs. Luis's Mommy, is it ok if Luis comes over to play this weekend? Were gonna watch carebear videos and have a tea party later.
;D
No, I would not want him hanging out with the likes of YOU.
Come one, though . . . do you really see him going out and buying a gun right now? Baby steps.
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 02:34 PM
I just don't see Luis337 as being there yet, guys. He's young and just discovered beer, for goodness sake. Zombies are a potential only in the movies he watches. I think it's sweet and although he should absolutely start thinking seriously about the future at some point, I don't want to tarnish his innocence too soon. :-\
I tried for about 6 months to get him to go to Appleseed. If he wouldn't just go to one that was basically in his neighborhood, then he is probably not going to buy a gun. What good is a gun if you are completely unprepared to use it? At least he could barter with metals.
Mrs. Luis's Mommy, is it ok if Luis comes over to play this weekend? Were gonna watch carebear videos and have a tea party later.
;D
No, I would not want him hanging out with the likes of YOU.
Come one, though . . . do you really see him going out and buying a gun right now? Baby steps.
Alright, well get him a slingshot, then well move him up to airsoft. And Maybe, just MAYBE by the time he gets a red ryder, the hordes of mindless miami refugees will have moved on to targets more easily overcome than a young cuban and his wrist rocket. :P
osoab
10th November 2010, 02:34 PM
I would buy about 1.5 ounces of gold. Small fractionals. The cheaper the better.
The remainder in silver.
A roll of eagles, just because.
Maybe a couple of 10 ouncers to clang around.
A few Morgans or Peace Dollars for nostalgia.
At least a roll of generic rounds to play with. You should really contemplate this need.
Round out the rest in Junk.
You looking to DCA in Luis or are you diving in head first?
I was looking to get at least one ounce of gold.
I wanted two actually, but silver is very tempting.
I'm likely going to dive in head first.
Luis, When I posted, I didn't realize you did not have a firearm.
I say a semi auto in .380, 9mm, or .40 S&W. Or a .38 special revolver. 500 rounds of ammo to start.
1 oz of gold. Small fracs if you can get a decent price.
1 roll of SAE's
Round out the rest in generic rounds and junk silver.
I concur with everyone else, you need a firearm.
Remember the old adage, Never bring a knife to a gun fight.
Living where you live, I would have a gun.
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 02:37 PM
I would buy about 1.5 ounces of gold. Small fractionals. The cheaper the better.
The remainder in silver.
A roll of eagles, just because.
Maybe a couple of 10 ouncers to clang around.
A few Morgans or Peace Dollars for nostalgia.
At least a roll of generic rounds to play with. You should really contemplate this need.
Round out the rest in Junk.
You looking to DCA in Luis or are you diving in head first?
I was looking to get at least one ounce of gold.
I wanted two actually, but silver is very tempting.
I'm likely going to dive in head first.
Luis, When I posted, I didn't realize you did not have a firearm.
I say a semi auto in .380, 9mm, or .40 S&W. Or a .38 special revolver. 500 rounds of ammo to start.
1 oz of gold. Small fracs if you can get a decent price.
1 roll of SAE's
Round out the rest in generic rounds and junk silver.
I concur with everyone else, you need a firearm.
Remember the old adage, Never bring a knife to a gun fight.
Living where you live, I would have a gun.
I like this advice. +1
With what you have, you dont have to buy an armory, but a modest and reliable hand gun and some ammo stored, plus some to practice with wont put you back very much. You could do all that and still easily have 3700 for metals and fun, if not more depending on what you noise maker you decide to get.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 02:41 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started. Maybe the first $1500. Dollar cost average your way in with the remaining amount with emphasis on silver.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 02:44 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
chud
10th November 2010, 02:46 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started.
By gold fractionals, do you mean 1/10th oz. gold coins? Sorry for the newbish question...
Gaillo
10th November 2010, 02:48 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started.
By gold fractionals, do you mean 1/10th oz. gold coins? Sorry for the newbish question...
Fractional: anything less than 1 Ozt. Example: 1/10 Ozt, 1/4 Ozt, Gram ingots, Etc.
willie pete
10th November 2010, 02:49 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started.
By gold fractionals, do you mean 1/10th oz. gold coins? Sorry for the newbish question...
You could do gram quantities...
osoab
10th November 2010, 02:50 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started.
By gold fractionals, do you mean 1/10th oz. gold coins? Sorry for the newbish question...
1/10, 1/4, 1/2 GAE's or Maples (Phils if they make them. I don't know about this one).
European sovereigns, or the Mexican pesos.
Possibly gram bars in assayed cases, but I would prefer to barter with the government mint issued.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 02:53 PM
Luis,
Go with a little bit of gold (fractionals) and a little bit of silver to get started.
By gold fractionals, do you mean 1/10th oz. gold coins? Sorry for the newbish question...
That is correct but keep in mind that, generally speaking, you will pay a higher premium on fractional gold coins. Gold coins that are 1/20 oz and 1/10 oz in size will have the highest premiums.
mick silver
10th November 2010, 03:24 PM
the next big war will not be over money or oil , it will be over food an water
chad
10th November 2010, 03:32 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Libertytree
10th November 2010, 03:36 PM
That's a helluva nice gesture Chad, +K.
osoab
10th November 2010, 03:48 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Do you really want a newbie to firearms to do something illegal and transfer a hand gun across state lines without FFL transfer?
It is a great gesture chad (by the way can I get one too? ;D).
I know its no one's business, but .gov can get a little feisty with this issue.
chad
10th November 2010, 03:53 PM
"private sale." he'll have to pay me $1 i guess. ;D
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 03:58 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
I dont have any guns either chad.... :whistle :whistle :whistle
mick silver
10th November 2010, 04:01 PM
chad i dont have no guns either can i have one tooooo
osoab
10th November 2010, 04:09 PM
I'll bet chad will hand out the guns after Ponce divides up his tp stash. ;D
I could use something in .308, 30-06, or 30-30 in case you were wondering. ;D
Ponce
10th November 2010, 04:14 PM
Luis? tell you what.......the old ones from GIS know me and know that I have done it twice before.... I would like to get you started........where in the old days I would give ten for now I will give only five......by pm send me your address (even if it is a PO Box) and they (five rounds one oz .999) will be on their way the next day.
mick silver
10th November 2010, 04:20 PM
i need help on how to buy silver . i have 35 bucks how much can i buy . i just wish i had started when i was younger . now i am to old and i wish i had a gun so i could keep my silver safe .
osoab
10th November 2010, 04:21 PM
i need help on how to buy silver . i have 35 bucks how much can i buy . i just wish i had started when i was younger . now i am to old and i wish i had a gun so i could keep my silver safe .
Need some tp, mre's, and solar panels too?
Libertytree
10th November 2010, 04:34 PM
Luis? tell you what.......the old ones from GIS know me and know that I have done it twice before.... I would like to get you started........where in the old days I would give ten for now I will give only five......by pm send me your address (even if it is a PO Box) and they (five rounds one oz .999) will be on their way the next day.
That's pretty damn cool of ya.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 04:53 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
RJB
10th November 2010, 05:14 PM
I only have a few guns, but I was thinking a nice addition to my inventory would be a bow and arrow. It would allow you to eliminate intruders quietly, without drawing much attention. Then just grab the shovel and shut up. ;) I'm into primitive skills and occasionally teach them at a few primitive skills gatherings. I hunt deer with long bows I make. Squirrel and rabbits with a primitive sling (David and Goliath weapon) etc. I really love the primitive, silent weapons BUTeven I will say, when it comes to a fight in the real world, NOTHING beats a firearm.
But it's smart to know the use of as many weapons as possible. I'm starting to mess around with the atlatl again.
chad
10th November 2010, 05:20 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
well, if ever by chance you accidently make it up here, offer's open!
Libertytree
10th November 2010, 05:20 PM
I only have a few guns, but I was thinking a nice addition to my inventory would be a bow and arrow. It would allow you to eliminate intruders quietly, without drawing much attention. Then just grab the shovel and shut up. ;) I'm into primitive skills and occasionally teach them at a few primitive skills gatherings. I hunt deer with long bows I make. Squirrel and rabbits with a primitive sling (David and Goliath weapon) etc. I really love the primitive, silent weapons BUTeven I will say, when it comes to a fight in the real world, NOTHING beats a firearm.
But it's smart to know the use of as many weapons as possible. I'm starting to mess around with the atlatl again.
I've been eying a modern crossbow lately, I had one I made myself but it really was rustic and I traded it. Question is...what is an "atlatl"?
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 05:33 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
well, if ever by chance you accidently make it up here, offer's open!
Hopefully, I will not "accidently" end up driving 100's of miles out of my way. :D ;D
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
chad
10th November 2010, 05:58 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
well, if ever by chance you accidently make it up here, offer's open!
Hopefully, I will not "accidently" end up driving 100's of miles out of my way. :D ;D
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
so awesome, do it man.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 06:10 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
well, if ever by chance you accidently make it up here, offer's open!
Hopefully, I will not "accidently" end up driving 100's of miles out of my way. :D ;D
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
so awesome, do it man.
I plan to eventually get a gun. I am just taking my time in doing so. :)
Heimdhal
10th November 2010, 06:28 PM
i'm saying this in an attempt to give you some good advice, not rag on you, so i hope you take it the right way.
given the current state of affairs in the year 2010, anyone that does not own at least one firearm is a complete douche bag.
go buy a gun. today.
Yep. I will admit that I am a douchebag since I do not own a gun..............yet
if you come to wisconsin, i will give you one.
Thanks for the offer but unfortunately I will have to turn it down because it is too far for me to drive. Wisconsin is a long way from Tennessee.
well, if ever by chance you accidently make it up here, offer's open!
Hopefully, I will not "accidently" end up driving 100's of miles out of my way. :D ;D
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
so awesome, do it man.
I plan to eventually get a gun. I am just taking my time in doing so. :)
Times a-wastin
k-os
10th November 2010, 06:38 PM
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
I hope you do. And when you do, I hope you start a thread on your experience!
StackerKen
10th November 2010, 06:38 PM
I would buy about 1.5 ounces of gold. Small fractionals. The cheaper the better.
The remainder in silver.
A roll of eagles, just because.
Maybe a couple of 10 ouncers to clang around.
A few Morgans or Peace Dollars for nostalgia.
At least a roll of generic rounds to play with. You should really contemplate this need.
Round out the rest in Junk.
You looking to DCA in Luis or are you diving in head first?
I was looking to get at least one ounce of gold.
I wanted two actually, but silver is very tempting.
I'm likely going to dive in head first.
Luis, When I posted, I didn't realize you did not have a firearm.
I say a semi auto in .380, 9mm, or .40 S&W. Or a .38 special revolver. 500 rounds of ammo to start.
1 oz of gold. Small fracs if you can get a decent price.
1 roll of SAE's
Round out the rest in generic rounds and junk silver.
I concur with everyone else, you need a firearm.
Remember the old adage, Never bring a knife to a gun fight.
Living where you live, I would have a gun.
I like this advice. +1
With what you have, you dont have to buy an armory, but a modest and reliable hand gun and some ammo stored, plus some to practice with wont put you back very much. You could do all that and still easily have 3700 for metals and fun, if not more depending on what you noise maker you decide to get.
Yep...yep...what they said...
Get a Gun Luis!
You too Art!
Ponce
10th November 2010, 06:56 PM
Silver Art? as long as you like the .22 so much have someone make you a hush puppy for it......you won't be sorry.......in the old days that was my weapon of preference.
1970 silver art
10th November 2010, 07:03 PM
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past. This local gun shop also has gun safety courses. I plan to take the gun safety courses first before I plan to buy a gun. I have not planned when I am going to take the gun courses yet. I will have to see when the next courses are available and if I can fit them in my schedule.
I hope you do. And when you do, I hope you start a thread on your experience!
Hmmmmm............
That sounds like a good idea K-os. I might do that. I might start a thread in the firearms sub-forum starting from when I actually sign up for the gun safety courses and progressing to the point where I actually buy the gun and start practicing with it at the indoor range. This is just an idea.
chud
10th November 2010, 07:55 PM
There is a gun shop that has an indoor range that I plan to buy a .22 semi-auto pistol from. The reason I am planning to buy a .22 because that is what I am comfortable shooting and I have shot one in the past.
Cool, I shot a Smith & Wesson Walther P22 today, and I liked it. Nothing wrong with having a .22
RJB
10th November 2010, 08:37 PM
I've been eying a modern crossbow lately, I had one I made myself but it really was rustic and I traded it. Question is...what is an "atlatl"?
I prefer the bow, but in a survival situation, I could make an atlatl in a few hours or less. The dart (It looks like a spear) would take the longest to make.
At one point archeologist tried to say our ancestors couldn't have eaten mammoth because thrown spears couldn't penetrate the hide. They came to this conclusion throwing spears at a dead elephant. A little later they tried it with an atlatl and the dart went deep into the chest cavity. They are still in use in primitive cultures from the inuits to the Amazonians
Here's a quickie with modern tools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYas53pGGKg&feature=fvw
Here's a more traditional one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_zkAdHrU_A&feature=related
MAGNES
12th November 2010, 01:27 PM
Luis, I'd buy silver right after Christmas but before new years.
That's what I would do if I was buying. I get physical, good
drop days period. In 2008 the physical really did disappear.
It's going to be uglier next round.
Luis, this was a serious post of mine among the jokes,
I was looking to go short on a setup first week of Dec,
seems they are setting it up for a drop and we already
had that setup a month early, and I'm out if this is the
case, but for you and those wanting to buy PM, get ready,
the opportunity may be here, so this is good news for
you, next week is key, do they drop it hard, they worked
on bringing it down, it is Fri, if and when silver starts
bottoming hard, I doubt there will be physical, reading peoples
reports, unless you are lucky or paying huge premiums,
we already saw this in 2008, and saw this to an extent
even with silver popping recently. In 2008 people were
paying $ 5 - 8 premiums for SAE, before 0 inventory,
total disconnect, it will be more obvious disconnect.
Luis337
12th November 2010, 02:08 PM
It seems like a good idea Magnes. I like today's smackdown...was tempted to buy but have not. there's also another paycheck left for me towards the end of november and I do have to save some of the money for school. I think I might wait a little more for a correction.
MAGNES
12th November 2010, 02:18 PM
See the smack down last night, the washed out the asian longs,
and Friday , end of week, is notorious historically, lots of major
hits, trading is thinner, etc, mon tues you have pent up demand
most times, sometimes they really nail it those days, you gotta
ask where are the stops, all over at this level lol, major stops
are 20 - 23 area, my guess, that is where the shorts break even
or make money below, on their recent capping, look at gold,
if gold has a serious correction SI is going to get killed of past.
You got lots of time to buy. Silver popped too, last move,
leading gold, one thing I promised myself long ago is never
get caught up in the cheer leading, even sites like LeMetro
did that, and I never re subscribed, Fekette is to blame,
" last stop on the train ", rofl, the key thing they did was
highlight disparities, and COT CRIMEX ANALYSIS, I thank
them for that, if only we had TOCOM like back then, no more.
They were 100 % right on that too. You got time to buy, never
get sucked in the hoopla. I am all powder man, - some losses,
if it does not come it does not come, seasonal +ve forces, lol ,
we are in middle, we watch, if you already bought don't
sweat it, buy more, lol , there will be opportunities,
no question about it.
solid
12th November 2010, 03:34 PM
That's pretty damn cool of ya.
Yes, very cool.
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned putting together a bug-out bag. That could be a good thing to do, and inexpensive as well. Luis, I'd put together a backpack containing extra clothes, matches, small tent, sleeping bag. Add in a small backpacking stove, a pot and at least 7 days worth of mountain house meals.
Since you are young with no attachments, you can be extremely mobile. Also, put a small fishing kit in there, a good knife, flashlight. A map to the closest gsus'er, and other folks as well.
Then think of getting of dollar cost averaging into silver and fractional gold. (I like gold sov's, my fav)
This is what I would do in your shoes.
osoab
2nd December 2010, 03:06 PM
So did you pick anything up yet Luis? Getting close to a month.
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