Personality Types and saving yourself some grief.

[BillBoard]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.

[mamboni]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.


You should hire GoD onto your sales team - he seems like such a low key and nice fella. :ROFL:

[mamboni]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.




You should hire GoD onto your sales team - he seems like such a low key and nice fella. :ROFL:

And if they don't use your company, he can threaten to stab them in the dick.

[willie pete]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.


You should hire GoD onto your sales team - he seems like such a low key and nice fella. :ROFL:


either that OR learn how to lie better... :D


stabbed in the dick.... :lol

[BillBoard]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.


You should hire GoD onto your sales team - he seems like such a low key and nice fella. :ROFL:


either that OR learn how to lie better... :D


stabbed in the dick.... :lol


Thanks fellas! :)

[chad]

i'm like that ceo. my life is too short to deal with "experts" who have to remind me of it every 10 minutes.

[BillBoard]

What kicks my nuts is that the asswipes know the other guys will not deliver on time or on budget, but they are seen as "minority friendly, and a woman owned business".

Arrgggg! I am fuming! But cannot talk to anyone around me for now. Can't complain though, I have done well this year, but I would have loved to have this contract as it would have put us over last years figures.

[BillBoard]

i'm like that ceo. my life is too short to deal with "experts" who have to remind me of it every 10 minutes.


Seems like a wimp attitude to me.

[chad]

i'm like that ceo. my life is too short to deal with "experts" who have to remind me of it every 10 minutes.


Seems like a wimp attitude to me.


nah, it's more of a "i don't give a shit about people who are assholes anymore," type attitude.

[BillBoard]

Personality types test:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

My result: ENTJ

[BillBoard]

i'm like that ceo. my life is too short to deal with "experts" who have to remind me of it every 10 minutes.


Seems like a wimp attitude to me.


nah, it's more of a "i don't give a sh*t about people who are assholes anymore," type attitude.


Looks more to me like a "I am afraid you will take my lunch money" attitude.

[chad]

nope. i have enough money put away & have established enough security in life that i have broken free of that "i have to be nice to people, i have to have the best people, etc." mindset that most people have to live in.

if i encounter difficult people anymore, i make them go away and rid my life of them, because i can.

i'm not saying you're one of those people, that ceo sounds like he's going for touchy feely instead of competent (the minority/woman part you expounded on).

it's just that for me personally, i don't have to give a sh*t anymore, so i make retards go away.

[k-os]

i'm like that ceo. my life is too short to deal with "experts" who have to remind me of it every 10 minutes.


Seems like a wimp attitude to me.


nah, it's more of a "i don't give a sh*t about people who are assholes anymore," type attitude.


Looks more to me like a "I am afraid you will take my lunch money" attitude.


Um, BillBoard, I am starting to see what that CEO from the deal you just lost was talking about.

Just sayin'.

[BillBoard]

Um, BillBoard, I am starting to see what that CEO from the deal you just lost was talking about.

Just sayin'.


Oh Kos, not you too babe! Tough crowd. :ROFL:

[Libertytree]

Some days we get the bear and some days the bear gets us. They made a decision and will have to live with it, you on the other hand can say fvck it and move on, now.

[Horn]

List of endangered Shark species.

http://www.shark.ch/Database/EndangeredSharks/index.html

I know how you feel Billboard, the best just won't do anymore.

It is more important to be an "acceptor of the punitive" ((you can explain that as the need to charge doubly in the future))

Cryin shame.

[Neuro]

Personality types test:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

My result: ENTJ

INTJ here, just like Bernanke, Greenspan and Keynes, supposedly... ARGH!

[Ponce]

I did great in my squeese hand ball business because I let my "poor" English work in my favor, I would let them "help" me with words that I could not pronounce and that way I made them part of my life...and then I would sell them my product.............you have to sell yourself before you can sell your product.

In what is to come remember to concentrate on the rich people because they will always have money no matter what......most of them didn't became rich by being stupid.

[Horn]

INTJ here, just like Bernanke, Greenspan and Keynes, supposedly... ARGH!


Same here.

I think I used to be an INTF, when I took this before, when younger.

What happened?

[k-os]

INFJ today, but I am sure if I took it a year from now, it would be something different.

I am:
* very expressed introvert (89%)
* moderately expressed intuitive personality (25%)
* slightly expressed feeling personality (12%)
* slightly expressed judging personality (1%)

[BillBoard]

I did great in my squeese hand ball business because I let my "poor" English work in my favor, I would let them "help" me with words that I could not pronounce and that way I made them part of my life...and then I would sell them my product.............you have to sell yourself before you can sell your product.

In what is to come remember to concentrate on the rich people because they will always have money no matter what......most of them didn't became rich by being stupid.


Ponce, I knew that I was not getting across to them. Like some people say, there was no chemistry (whatever that means), so you are correct Ponce, I instinctively knew I had not sold myself. That's why I went looking for answers on how I could have assimilated to these people.

Good lesson though, and learned something new.

[BillBoard]

INTJ here, just like Bernanke, Greenspan and Keynes, supposedly... ARGH!


Same here.

I think I used to be an INTF, when I took this before, when younger.

What happened?


Life experience.

[milehi]

I'm in sales. My main competitors use the shark approach to sales and service, and they rub everyone the wrong way, not to mention a huge lack of ethics. This works against them because the staff where their products are used sabbotage their efforts and waste their time, and time is money. I'm no pussy, but use the opposite approach, and these people essentially work as my support staff, making my day a breeze. This morning I was in and out in 40 minutes, while my competitor was "bogged down" for close to three hours. Treat people how you'd like to be treated. I should add that my competitor works for a large corporation and is sales driven, whereas I own my distibutorship and really don't care about the sale, but the money follows. Just my two clad cents.

Edit- INFP

[horseshoe3]

nope. i have enough money put away & have established enough security in life that i have broken free of that "i have to be nice to people, i have to have the best people, etc." mindset that most people have to live in.

if i encounter difficult people anymore, i make them go away and rid my life of them, because i can.

i'm not saying you're one of those people, that ceo sounds like he's going for touchy feely instead of competent (the minority/woman part you expounded on).

it's just that for me personally, i don't have to give a sh*t anymore, so i make retards go away.


Yep, I learned a long time ago that there are enough good horses in the world that you don't have to put up with the bad ones. If you get one that just doesn't want to get along, send it to the glue factory and replace it with one that has a better attitude.

[horseshoe3]

I find that the best salesmen are the ones with an engineering background. They find out what the customer needs and how they can provide it. If you can answer those two questions, everything else will fall into place.

[Horn]

I did great in my squeese hand ball business because I let my "poor" English work in my favor, I would let them "help" me with words that I could not pronounce and that way I made them part of my life...and then I would sell them my product.............you have to sell yourself before you can sell your product.

In what is to come remember to concentrate on the rich people because they will always have money no matter what......most of them didn't became rich by being stupid.


Ponce, I knew that I was not getting across to them. Like some people say, there was no chemistry (whatever that means), so you are correct Ponce, I instinctively knew I had not sold myself. That's why I went looking for answers on how I could have assimilated to these people.

Good lesson though, and learned something new.


You must get in touch with your "inner whore", basically. :-*

[solid]

I think this personality types test is actually causing me grief.

I scored an ISTP. Apparently I'm 100% introverted, lol. I guess that explains a few things.

Interesting test, thanks for sharing!

[Neuro]

INTJ here, just like Bernanke, Greenspan and Keynes, supposedly... ARGH!


Same here.

I think I used to be an INTF, when I took this before, when younger.

What happened?

I am quite close to be an INTP, and on one test I took a few years ago, I was, but usually I test INTJ. Probably by age you become more judgmental...Life experience as billboard says...

[Horn]

I think this personality types test is actually causing me grief.

I scored an ISTP. Apparently I'm 100% introverted, lol. I guess that explains a few things.

Interesting test, thanks for sharing!


Sure, we know how grateful you really are.... ;D

[BillBoard]

I'm in sales. My main competitors use the shark approach to sales and service, and they rub everyone the wrong way, not to mention a huge lack of ethics. This works against them because the staff where their products are used sabbotage their efforts and waste their time, and time is money. I'm no pussy, but use the opposite approach, and these people essentially work as my support staff, making my day a breeze. This morning I was in and out in 40 minutes, while my competitor was "bogged down" for close to three hours. Treat people how you'd like to be treated. I should add that my competitor works for a large corporation and is sales driven, whereas I own my distibutorship and really don't care about the sale, but the money follows. Just my two clad cents.


You know, I just understood this recently. As a matter of fact I came across an e-book that gave me that understanding and how people's personalities are important to take into account:

Here is the link to the ebook:

"Success In Ten Steps."
http://community.colortosuccess.com/ebook_download.php?d=MjAwMTMzCWhjYW5qdTAxQHlhaG9vL mNvbQlDb21tdW5pdHkJMTQJNA==

[BillBoard]

You must get in touch with your "inner whore", basically. :-*



You can't afford me Horn. :P

[BillBoard]

Should I enjoy being a prostitute this much? I need money for school.

http://www.dearcupid.org/question/should-i-enjoy-being-a-prostitute-this-much.html

[Neuro]

You must get in touch with your "inner whore", basically. :-*



You can't afford me Horn. :P
Neither can you...

[solid]

Sure, we know how grateful you really are.... ;D


After reading the personality type 'crafter', it was actually eye-opening to how similar I am to that. I was surprised, and learned something about myself today.

[Horn]

You must get in touch with your "inner whore", basically. :-*



You can't afford me Horn. :P


I don't think are many salesman types at this site, or the last one.

You're better off not changing anything about yourself, acting classes would be a better investment.

Imagine that you are Hamlet in those awkward moments. :oo-->

[Libertytree]

I have no idea WTF it means but I took my first online personality test just now and it says.

moderately expressed introvert-44
distinctively expressed intuitive personality-75
slightly expressed feeling personality-12
distinctively expressed judging personality-67

[Heimdhal]

Im an INTP

I used to be an INTJ when I was a young teenager and first did this test. Not sure what changed. But I am an extremley introverted person and this only put me at 67% introverted. I can play the social game, as many may have witnessed here, but I dont prefer by any stretch of the imagination.

Anyways, just thought I'd share...... ;D

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
67 12 1 56

[BillBoard]

I have no idea WTF it means but I took my first online personality test just now and it says.

moderately expressed introvert-44
distinctively expressed intuitive personality-75
slightly expressed feeling personality-12
distinctively expressed judging personality-67



The Protector

As an INFJ, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you take things in primarily via intuition. Your secondary mode is external, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit with your personal value system.

INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.

INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it. Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions. This is something of a conflict between the inner and outer worlds, and may result in the INFJ not being as organized as other Judging types tend to be. Or we may see some signs of disarray in an otherwise orderly tendency, such as a consistently messy desk.

INFJs have uncanny insight into people and situations. They get "feelings" about things and intuitively understand them. As an extreme example, some INFJs report experiences of a psychic nature, such as getting strong feelings about there being a problem with a loved one, and discovering later that they were in a car accident. This is the sort of thing that other types may scorn and scoff at, and the INFJ themself does not really understand their intuition at a level which can be verbalized. Consequently, most INFJs are protective of their inner selves, sharing only what they choose to share when they choose to share it. They are deep, complex individuals, who are quite private and typically difficult to understand. INFJs hold back part of themselves, and can be secretive.

But the INFJ is as genuinely warm as they are complex. INFJs hold a special place in the heart of people who they are close to, who are able to see their special gifts and depth of caring. INFJs are concerned for people's feelings, and try to be gentle to avoid hurting anyone. They are very sensitive to conflict, and cannot tolerate it very well. Situations which are charged with conflict may drive the normally peaceful INFJ into a state of agitation or charged anger. They may tend to internalize conflict into their bodies, and experience health problems when under a lot of stress.

Because the INFJ has such strong intuitive capabilities, they trust their own instincts above all else. This may result in an INFJ stubborness and tendency to ignore other people's opinions. They believe that they're right. On the other hand, INFJ is a perfectionist who doubts that they are living up to their full potential. INFJs are rarely at complete peace with themselves - there's always something else they should be doing to improve themselves and the world around them. They believe in constant growth, and don't often take time to revel in their accomplishments. They have strong value systems, and need to live their lives in accordance with what they feel is right. In deference to the Feeling aspect of their personalities, INFJs are in some ways gentle and easy going. Conversely, they have very high expectations of themselves, and frequently of their families. They don't believe in compromising their ideals.

INFJ is a natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective. They make loving parents and usually have strong bonds with their offspring. They have high expectations of their children, and push them to be the best that they can be. This can sometimes manifest itself in the INFJ being hard-nosed and stubborn. But generally, children of an INFJ get devoted and sincere parental guidance, combined with deep caring.

In the workplace, the INFJ usually shows up in areas where they can be creative and somewhat independent. They have a natural affinity for art, and many excel in the sciences, where they make use of their intuition. INFJs can also be found in service-oriented professions. They are not good at dealing with minutia or very detailed tasks. The INFJ will either avoid such things, or else go to the other extreme and become enveloped in the details to the extent that they can no longer see the big picture. An INFJ who has gone the route of becoming meticulous about details may be highly critical of other individuals who are not.

The INFJ individual is gifted in ways that other types are not. Life is not necessarily easy for the INFJ, but they are capable of great depth of feeling and personal achievement.

Jungian functional preference ordering:

Dominant: Introverted Intuition
Auxilliary: Extraverted Feeling
Tertiary: Introverted Thinking
Inferior: Extraverted Sensing
http://www.personalitypage.com/INFJ.html

[Horn]

Sure, we know how grateful you really are.... ;D


After reading the personality type 'crafter', it was actually eye-opening to how similar I am to that. I was surprised, and learned something about myself today.


Call it, liquid?

[osoab]

I find that the best salesmen are the ones with an engineering background. They find out what the customer needs and how they can provide it. If you can answer those two questions, everything else will fall into place.


You must not deal with structural engineers, or at least the ones I do.

Architects are a different story altogether.

[Libertytree]

I've never investigated this stuff before but by and large it seems like it's mostly correct. LT scratches ass...fetches beer...looks for pipe, that was kinda weird.

[zap]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.


LOL Billboard,

Be your charming self ! another thing I have noticed is if you mirror people you have better luck.

That's my technical term lol ( mirror )

[Libertytree]

"another thing I have noticed is if you mirror people you have better luck.

That's my technical term lol ( mirror )"

Great insight Zap, I work with the public and it's exactly what I do. Each customer is another facet, another page, each with a different way of handling and dealing with. Yeah, there are all kinds of types but most are easy to read and act accordingly...thus shortening the amount of time you have to waste on them. ;D

[Neuro]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.

LOL Billboard,

Be your charming self ! another thing I have noticed is if you mirror people you have better luck.

That's my technical term lol ( mirror )


Probably the CEO was afraid to get a headache after interacting with Billboard. He probably just wants to see a pretty face, who brings Danishes, for a nice chat about nothing very important interspersed with a few nuggets of wisdom re the business...

[Libertytree]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.

LOL Billboard,

Be your charming self ! another thing I have noticed is if you mirror people you have better luck.

That's my technical term lol ( mirror )


Probably the CEO was afraid to get a headache after interacting with Billboard. He probably just wants to see a pretty face, who brings Danishes, for a nice chat about nothing very important interspersed with a few nuggets of wisdom re the business...


IOW, you should have had nice tits, flashed them and brought breakfast.

[General of Darkness]

I was a firm believer that psychology was junk, but after losing a contract due to my inability to communicate with a client I have found that it has a lot of merit.

I could not believe they would turn down our proposal, we are the most qualified, experienced, capable and affordable provider. Yet we didn't get the contract.

I wrote a letter to the CEO and asked for constructive criticism as to why we didn't get the contract and asking for suggestions to improve our chances in the future.

Their suggestion: "You need to change your profile to one less aggressive. We know you are the best, but are also seen as sharks."

Pansy ass bastards! Now I have to learn to fake empathy to stay in business.




You should hire GoD onto your sales team - he seems like such a low key and nice fella. :ROFL:

And if they don't use your company, he can threaten to stab them in the dick.


Exactly.

[ShortJohnSilver]

You are not selling your service, you are selling yourself first, in combination with the service.

recommended book: The Greatest Salesman in the World by Og Mandino ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Salesman_in_the_World

[BillBoard]

You are not selling your service, you are selling yourself first, in combination with the service.

recommended book: The Greatest Salesman in the World by Og Mandino ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Salesman_in_the_World


You know, I have this book. I read it when I was 18 or 19, and in reality much too young to have appreciated the wisdom it contains.

Thanks for the reminder, I will re-read it this week.

[milehi]

Not your typical personality types.


http://www.xeromag.com/fun/personality.html

[Horn]

You are not selling your service, you are selling yourself first, in combination with the service.

recommended book: The Greatest Salesman in the World by Og Mandino ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Salesman_in_the_World


You know, I have this book. I read it when I was 18 or 19, and in reality much too young to have appreciated the wisdom it contains.

Thanks for the reminder, I will re-read it this week.


Was it written before, or after silicone?

[mrnhtbr2232]

And then there is the possibility that while you're distracted with your indignation it was a back room deal all along and they just had to go through the motions to satisfy requirements. The fix is often in behind the scenes - I've seen it many times where honest and capable people were intentionally lied to and led on at their time and expense when they were never going to score a contract.

[Horn]

I've seen it many times where honest and capable people were intentionally lied to and led on at their time and expense when they were never going to score a contract.


Is there a law in the U.S. that requires all Government work to go out to public bid, then the final choice scrutinized by independent public panel?

I ran into this many times in Costa Rica, and while it was seen as another piece of red tape by many, I couldn't help but think it was brilliant.

Now the part they had in there about putting up a percentage of the job, to be able to bid on it, was going a bit too far... ;D

[gunDriller]

What kicks my nuts is that the asswipes know the other guys will not deliver on time or on budget, but they are seen as "minority friendly, and a woman owned business".

i'm not sure what industry BillBoard is in ... though i could guess 8)

in the defense industry (i.e., if you are going after a government contract), there is a provision whereby defense contractors earn serious brownie points with the government for hiring sub-contractors that are -
* woman-owned
* owned by someone with a disability
* owned by a minority

e.g. African American woman in a wheelchair business owner would score a defense contractor Triple Brownie Points with whoever it is in the US gov. that keeps track of these things.

as an engineer getting quotes from machine shops, i have been pressured to include the "brownie point contractors" in the quote cycle so that the company can potentially give them some work.

it's interesting how it works. i had a friend in San Diego who was North Vietnamese, and ran a machine shop in his garage. did fantastic work. his wife was a co-owner. (neither was disabled). they could have gotten 2 out of 3 brownie points. but they didn't want to fill out the paperwork to get the job.

[BillBoard]

Was it written before, or after silicone?



Don't know -the link claims it was first published in 1968.

Since I am on a roll with this personality stuff, came across this interest article:


Characteristics of a Psychopath

Comes on strong, sweeps us off our feet. He targets us by falsely mirroring our values, interests, goals, philosophies, tastes and habits. He fakes integrity, honesty and sincerity. He plays the role of the victim. We take pity on him. He wants to marry us quickly.

This control freak wants us to dependent on him. He portrays false integrity, appears helpful, comforting, generous in his ‘idealization’ of us phase. It never lasts as Jekyll turns into Hyde. His victims are objectified and disposable. He convincingly mimics human emotions.

1) His lack of conscience is shocking, incomprehensible and emotionally painful to us. We remember his odd reaction to situations.We end the relationship and salvage what we can, or we are quickly discarded as he cultivates a “new perfect partner”. He will very much enjoy double-dipping attention he gets by cheating. He will have numerous relationships.

He may drop verbal clues about his true character early in the relationship, but we fail to grasp its meaning. Eventually the unmasked psychopath emerges and we remember that early warning. His targets suffer emotional and financial devastation and our emotional recovery is lengthy.

Defense Strategy-Abandon all efforts to help or cure him. His true identity is exposed and the false character he portrayed is gone forever. Accept the reality. Seek therapy. Join a support group to know you are not alone. Ignore and don’t react to his hurtful words. Don’t take the bait when he blames or lies. They fool even trained professionals. Do not be gullible, vulnerable or naive. Prepare for a nasty divorce. Accept no abuse. Get away quick and don’t ever go back.

2) The Female Psychopath- Using her false mask of sanity, this charming “Southern Belle” schemer appears helpless or needy, pitiful, inept or emotionally unable to cope. Even total strangers give her things she gratefully accepts. Falsely claiming to be the victim, this passive parasite lures and abuses the normal protector/provider instincts in her male target. When her mask comes off she is cunning, ruthless, predatory, and loveless.

Defense Strategy: This ‘damsel in distress’ will try to hook and reel you in. Take the hook out of your lip. Don’t make her emotional neediness your problem. This black hole of need can never be filled. Understand the mask of helplessness is not the “real her”. If she won’t give reasonable answers to reasonable questions turn and run. Beware and remember “…deadlier than the male.” Realize she uses sexuality as a lure. Avoid financial or emotional involvement.

3) ‘Liar Liar‘- He will lie for no reason. He will skillfully twist our words, dodge and evade questions, divert the topic, and omit important facts in his ever-changing, self-serving goals. “Hang ‘em high” he says about the murderer on the 6:00 news. This hypocrite claims high morals then proceeds to exploits, manipulate and abuse others. His lies about us are emotionally cruel. He will accuse you of being crazy. He will blame others and take no responsibility.

Defense Strategy: Quietly verify what he says. The grain of truth he drops occasionally is cleverly-disguised manipulation. Do not try to negotiate or bargain. Head for the door when things don’t add up. Learn about “projection”.

4) The Thrill Seeker- never learns from his past follies. Easily bored, his hunt for new thrills escalates. His reckless disregard for others endangers them. Poor impulse control, bad judgment, criminal activity and substance abuse are common.

Defense Strategy: Don’t get involved. Use your good judgment. Say No. Don’t take the bait of his rage or manipulation. Don’t bail him out. Facing consequences is his best lesson.

5) The Malevolent Psychopath- is now fully unmasked. We remember when his eyes were vacant, cold and predatory. This wife-beater, murderer, serial killer, stalker, rapist, fighter, harasser, terrorist has a ‘chip-on-his-shoulder’ attitude. His short fuse erupts into rages. He anticipates betrayal, humiliation or punishment. He imagines rejection and rejects first to ‘get it over with’. He will harass to get your reaction and try to make you look out of control. Can become dangerous and unpredictable.

He has no remorse, no conscience and no regard for the rights of others. This coward sadistically picks on the vulnerable, women, children and the elderly. Defies probation or the courts. He has bad judgment. He never learns his lesson and repeats past actions to his own detriment. The media loves stories about his heinous acts.

Defense Strategy: Act to protect yourself physically, financially and emotionally. Don’t tip your hand that you’re leaving. Don’t take the bait of his over-reactions. Use the services of the police, law and shelters.

6) The Arrogant Psychopath- displays his false mask and his haughty strut as he demands centre stage. He seeks envy, attention even our fear and hatred. He can never get enough. Fame or infamy are the same to him if he can acquire notoriety. Reacts disproportionately to situations. He boastfully displays his possessions to garner attention.

Defense Strategy: Learn the red flags of behaviour. Demand equal treatment. Deny him the attention he demands. Learn about Malignant Narcissism. Support his grandiosity and self image when this serves your need to bide time to get away.

7) The Charismatic Leader- manipulates others to obtain status, control, compliance, money, attention. His effective brainwashing tactics often found in religious cults or political venues. He targets the naive, vulnerable, uneducated or mentally weak. He falsely portrays himself to be virtuous, the perfect father, husband, spiritual leader, advisor, mentor, friend.

Defense Strategy: Avoid him. Know his payoff is attention, money or controlling us. Be suspicious of excessive charisma emanating from others. Pay attention when your gut instinct tells you to avoid him.

8 ) The Promiscuous Psychopath-(male or female)- Pornography, hyper-sexuality, masturbation, incest are reported by his targets. Anyone, young, old, male/female are there for his gratification. This predator takes what is available. Can have a preference for ‘sado-maso’ sexuality. Easily bored, he demands increasingly deviant stimulation. The internet a favorite hunting ground. However, another type exists, the one who withholds sex or affection.

Defense Strategy: Expect this type to try to degrade you. Get away from him. Expect him to tell lies about your sexuality to evade exposure of his own. Be aware of their frequent presence on the internet.

9) The Nomadic Parasite has a lack of long-term goals. With unrealistic expectations, he is aimless and lacking commitment, focus or direction. He aggressively pursues opportunistic predatory use of others.

Defense strategy: Be aware of their red flags. Don’t bail him out. Know his ability to appear helpless, pitiful, confused and in need of our assistance.

10) The Conman/Manipulator pits people against each other. We may be used as his proxy interacting with others as he sets us up to take the fall while he enjoys watching the performance he orchestrates. Keeps his allies and targets separate to avoid exposure. Verbally skilled at twisting our words, this charmer usually gets his way.

Applying ‘fear’ selling tactics, faking expertise, this scam artist crafts situations to appear helpful, indispensable, ready to solve our problems. Money and conning others are his objective. He will agree to anything then turn around and do the opposite. He will accuse you of breaking the contract. Legal, custody agreements and normal social or personal protocol mean nothing to him. Enjoys orchestrating police/legal action and playing the role of the ‘poor me’ victim.

Defense Strategy: Expect him to disregard the agreement. Know the ‘nature of the beast’. Avoid involvement. Be self-sufficient. Avoid any “Trust-Me” get-rich-quick sales pitch. Learn how swindlers and scam artists operate.

11) The Professional Bully- is often successful and intelligent in his field. He will fake his abilities and credentials. He exploits others, and must be in absolute control. He relies on his intellectual manipulation, and charisma. His eye on the boardroom, he back-stabs his way to high position. He ruthlessly abuses his power. His bad judgment has adverse affects on many levels of society. He places others in problem or failure situations.

This professional bully has no social conscience, and is often suspicious and paranoid. Others may support him to further their own objective but this wheeler-dealer leaves them holding the bag.

Defense Strategy: Keep your references and resume up to date. Don’t get involved in anything illegal. Document thoroughly to protect yourself. Thwarting them may backlash with a cascade of retaliation.

12) The Psychopath Child displays signs as early as age 3. This juvenile delinquent shows early red flags of psychopathy including lying, fighting, stealing, bullying, bad judgment, cheating, cruelty to animals, vandalism, manipulation skills, truancy, sexual activity, fire-setting, substance abuse, and running away from home. Many see him as ‘sneaky’.

Defense Strategy: Now is the time to fix the problem, not the blame. Maintain domestic stability. Recognize signs in early childhood. Reinforce and reward positive behaviour. Seek therapy. Establish firm moral integrity practices and standards in the home. Parent/Family Management Training help is available. Please contact your local mental health association.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pWY7o2y0CXoJ:www.tellinitlikeitis.n et/2007/04/characteristics-of-a-psychopath.html+typical+traits+of+%22vulnerable+wo men%22&cd=21&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[Book]

Defense Strategy-...Accept the reality. Seek therapy. Join a support group to know you are not alone. Ignore and don’t react to his hurtful words. Don’t take the bait when he blames or lies. They fool even trained professionals. Do not be gullible, vulnerable or naive. Prepare for a nasty divorce. Accept no abuse. Get away quick and don’t ever go back.

http://jurylaw.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/watching_teletubbies_flickr_103466903_d9_2.jpg

How goyim kids become gullible, vulnerable, and naive.

::)

[Horn]

Don't know -the link claims it was first published in 1968.

Since I am on a roll with this personality stuff, came across this interest article:


Very interesting & useful.

Now a Psychopath would have to have those qualities chained to him.

As far as the in betweens, they are like every other person I know. :)

[Horn]

How goyim kids become gullible, vulnerable, and naive.

::)


How you manage to find the perfect picture most every time, I'll never know.

What XXXX was Book, on the test?

That might be interesting to know...

[SLV^GLD]

All government construction projects require a significant percentage of the subcontracts to be awarded to small, woman or minority owned businesses. It is complete bullshit and enrages me because as a general contractor we are being forced to pay inflated rates for less competent work. not saying anything against the minorities, just the policy. The policy allows these minorities to charge more and deliver less.

As someone above said, the fix was in and the contractor was just going through the motions for Billboard.

[Libertytree]

All government construction projects require a significant percentage of the subcontracts to be awarded to small, woman or minority owned businesses. It is complete bullsh*t and enrages me because as a general contractor we are being forced to pay inflated rates for less competent work. not saying anything against the minorities, just the policy. The policy allows these minorities to charge more and deliver less.

As someone above said, the fix was in and the contractor was just going through the motions for Billboard.


Unless you're Haliburton.

[StackerKen]

I could never, nor would I want to be, a salesman


here is my score on the test...

Your Type is ISTJ

Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging

89 62 1 6

[solid]

Ken, you can find more info about your type on this site..

http://www.personalitypage.com/html/info.html

Personally, I find this stuff fascinating. You can spend your whole life and not take the time to look at this stuff.

When you identify yourself with a type, I think it really explains a lot of why we do things. I never paid attention to why, it was just fact of doing it that matter. People would always ask why? Never really had an answer, and it frustrated a lot of people. But it really boils down to personality.

Some things are obvious, such as buying gold and silver, there's tons of reasons "why" we do those things. But other things..take mountain climbing (for example), you can fail 10 times trying to get to the summit and there's always a reason, weather, storms, altitude sickness, etc. But the reason for climbing to begin with...never really gets much thought about it. You just do it. If you fail, you try again until you get there. And when you are on the summit, you look around...great, and you go back down.

It's the old saying of why did you climb that mountain? "Because it's there". It's not because it's "there", but because of personality, that's the reason why.

Next time someone asks me why, I'm not going to answer them. I'm sick of that question. I'm going to print out my personality type, hand it to them, and just walk away.

[k-os]

Next time someone asks me why, I'm not going to answer them. I'm sick of that question. I'm going to print out my personality type, hand it to them, and just walk away.


Why?

[solid]

Why?


Alright K..put 'em up. :box :)

[k-os]

Why?


Alright K..put 'em up. :box :)


You were supposed to print out your personality type and walk away. ;D

[solid]

You were supposed to print out your personality type and walk away. ;D


;D Nice one. Damnit, I believe I've been outsmarted.

[hoarder]

INTJ, usually INTP.
I think there is a lot to be said about personality types. Most of us are pre-wired to certain types of behaviors and inclinations and it's nearly impossible to change.
When I get in a conflict with someone I analyze their personality type. Often they disagree simply because they are emotional instead of logical or some reason they can't help. Understanding this keeps me from getting mad at them.

I noticed that some personality traits that most people think are assets aren't assets at all. For example people who are cursed with the happy-go-lucky personality or the just-think-positive personality are the least likely to grasp the worst of the dark and ugly realities of life. They are pre-wired to deny them no matter how much proof they are subjected to. I don't think this is their fault.

[k-os]

I noticed that some personality traits that most people think are assets aren't assets at all. For example people who are cursed with the happy-go-lucky personality or the just-think-positive personality are the least likely to grasp the worst of the dark and ugly realities of life. They are pre-wired to deny them no matter how much proof they are subjected to. I don't think this is their fault.


I think all of the personality types have pros and cons of their own. I mean, the happy-go-lucky types may not see the world as it really is, but man, they get to be happy!

[Book]

INTJ, usually INTP.



We are all type GSUS and obviously wacky. That's why we come here and nobody else does...

:morph:

[hoarder]

We are all type GSUS and obviously wacky. That's why we come here and nobody else does...

:morph:


Or everyone else is wacky.

[Book]

We are all type GSUS and obviously wacky. That's why we come here and nobody else does...

:morph:



Or everyone else is wacky.



http://www.office-assist.com/~jarvis/woods2003/group_hug.jpg

Maybe we all come to GSUS every day to test and re-test that Reality.

:D

[hoarder]

Maybe we all come to GSUS every day to test and re-test that Reality.

:D


That's what truth-seekers do. Them bearded boys in the pic appear to be more interested in giving each other protein injections... :puke

[hoarder]

I think all of the personality types have pros and cons of their own. I mean, the happy-go-lucky types may not see the world as it really is, but man, they get to be happy!
I guess if one must be ignorant of reality, one might as well be happy. Given the choice, I would rather understand reality and be unhappy than be ignorant and happy.

[k-os]

I think all of the personality types have pros and cons of their own. I mean, the happy-go-lucky types may not see the world as it really is, but man, they get to be happy!
I guess if one must be ignorant of reality, one might as well be happy. Given the choice, I would rather understand reality and be unhappy than be ignorant and happy.


I might make the opposite choice, if I had that choice to make.

[Horn]

I noticed that some personality traits that most people think are assets aren't assets at all. For example people who are cursed with the happy-go-lucky personality or the just-think-positive personality are the least likely to grasp the worst of the dark and ugly realities of life. They are pre-wired to deny them no matter how much proof they are subjected to. I don't think this is their fault.


I think all of the personality types have pros and cons of their own. I mean, the happy-go-lucky types may not see the world as it really is, but man, they get to be happy!


I have no idea what you guys are talking about?

[k-os]

I noticed that some personality traits that most people think are assets aren't assets at all. For example people who are cursed with the happy-go-lucky personality or the just-think-positive personality are the least likely to grasp the worst of the dark and ugly realities of life. They are pre-wired to deny them no matter how much proof they are subjected to. I don't think this is their fault.


I think all of the personality types have pros and cons of their own. I mean, the happy-go-lucky types may not see the world as it really is, but man, they get to be happy!


I have no idea what you guys are talking about?



It's revenge.

[Horn]

It's revenge.


That sounds like a snake, What year were you born :conf:

http://www.chinesehoroscope3000.com/horoscope_images/chinese-astrology-signs-2011-abc.jpg

[k-os]

It's revenge.


That sounds like a snake, What year were you born :conf:

http://www.chinesehoroscope3000.com/horoscope_images/chinese-astrology-signs-2011-abc.jpg


I think I am a rat. :-/

[Horn]

I think I am a rat. :-/


My opposite on the wheel is the rabbit, I'm gonna think positive here & say you're O.K. in my book. ;D

[zap]

I took the test, here are my results.

Your Type is
ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
44 31 38 28

[Rip Van Winkle]

YOUR TYPE
I S F P
Strength of the preferences %
33 1 12 11

I guess I'm a crackpot

[zap]

I took the test, here are my results.

Your Type is
ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
44 31 38 28



the thinking % seems kinda high on mine ;D

[zap]

We are all type GSUS and obviously wacky. That's why we come here and nobody else does...

:morph:



Or everyone else is wacky.



http://www.office-assist.com/~jarvis/woods2003/group_hug.jpg

Maybe we all come to GSUS every day to test and re-test that Reality.

:D




lol ,Ok Book which one is you?

[Luis337]

ISTJ/ISFJ here

[milehi]

My stats

I N F P
78 12 62 44

[zap]

My stats

I N F P
78 12 62 44


What do the Letters stand for?

I = introverted ? n f p?

[milehi]

My stats

I N F P
78 12 62 44


What do the Letters stand for?

I = introverted ? n f p?


The others are i(n)tuitive, (f)eeling, (p)erceiving

[Horn]

I took the test, here are my results.

Your Type is
ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
44 31 38 28



the thinking % seems kinda high on mine ;D


I think your the only person on board that even has the slightest chance at a sales position...

[k-os]

My stats

I N F P
78 12 62 44


I think your avatar reflects this personality type perfectly!

[Book]

lol ,Ok Book which one is you?



http://graphics.tomrue.net/images/group-hug.jpg

Another "group hug" photo from Google that has wimmins in it this time.

:D

[zap]

I took the test, here are my results.

Your Type is
ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
44 31 38 28



the thinking % seems kinda high on mine ;D


I think your the only person on board that even has the slightest chance at a sales position...


LOL, I couldn't sell snow to an Eskimo, I am not good at selling stuff. :D Never worked in sales.

[Horn]

I took the test, here are my results.

Your Type is
ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
44 31 38 28



the thinking % seems kinda high on mine ;D


I think your the only person on board that even has the slightest chance at a sales position...


LOL, I couldn't sell snow to an Eskimo, I am not good at selling stuff. :D Never worked in sales.


And the shame of it all is the rest of us here couldn't sell that, or tea to a Chinamen. ;)

[solid]

I've got a success story using these personality types, to identify weaknesses, and do a better job at work.

I'm an ISTP, which is full of faults, and drives friends and family crazy sometimes. It's pulling teeth to get me to commit to anything, unless it's important like helping someone move, or helping with some big project around their houses.

I've realized I work with a small core group of guys the same type. Our bonds run deep, and we trust our lives to each other. We'd do anything to back each other up, we dis-trust management and disregard their BS most of the time. We don't talk much but focus on the task at hand, and when the shit goes wrong, we remain calm and work together.

But there's another group we work with sometimes. These guys are about impressing folks, impressing management, and they stab each other in the back to look good. They have no loyalty.

I worked with one of these guys tonight. I've almost gotten to the point of fighting with this guy, and it takes a lot to piss me off. When it's action time, this guy just starts screaming. He loses control. Nothing I've ever tried has been able to keep this guy calm. I then lose my focus with this guy, he gets under my nerves. Last time I worked with him I told him to shut the fuck up, and that seemed to help a little.

I finally figured out how to work with this guy, thanks to this thread actually.

I figured out we had a big personality conflict...so what I did, was before the action started, I told him what I was going to do, when I was going to do it. I told him if that didn't work, I would do this instead, etc.

I laid out a full plan of exactly what I was going to do, for him to follow. It worked fantastic. This guy remained calm the entire time, and didn't say a word. We got a lot of compliments from the customer, no damage anywhere.

I am going to start using this information more proactively at work, with some of the people I work with.

This is great stuff. Didn't mean to get long-winded, but I'm enjoying a beer for success today.

[BillBoard]

I finally figured out how to work with this guy, thanks to this thread actually.

I figured out we had a big personality conflict...so what I did, was before the action started, I told him what I was going to do, when I was going to do it. I told him if that didn't work, I would do this instead, etc.

I laid out a full plan of exactly what I was going to do, for him to follow. It worked fantastic. This guy remained calm the entire time, and didn't say a word. We got a lot of compliments from the customer, no damage anywhere.

I am going to start using this information more proactively at work, with some of the people I work with.

This is great stuff. Didn't mean to get long-winded, but I'm enjoying a beer for success today.


Let me share with you another success story from my best friend-

"dude, you are a genius. My wife and I could not get along and seemed to stay together just for the kids sake. But guess what, after checking out the information from those personality tests you sent me, we found out what was our main point of conflict. 1. both of us do not like to give in to other people. 2. She would become abusive when I had to work overtime and I would tell her that I would leave her and end our relationship if she kept harping about my work. Which in turn would hurt her and make her more insecure leading to more harping, which would alienate me more from her and leading me to tell her I wanted a divorce. Can you see the vicious cycle?

It is so self evident now that we have figured it out, but at no moment did we stop for a moment and thought why are we going through a hurtful cycle over and over again. Things have improved a lot in our relationship and now we are communicating better than we have had in the past."

[SLV^GLD]

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
33 88 50 22

The descriptive paragraphs read like my eulogy.

[Horn]

You can't fake empathy , Billboard. That won't get you their business either. If you really want their business you have to show a genuine expression that you will do whatever you have to to make them happy & will make sure the work or service will be done to their satisfaction.

There may also be some bending required... :o ;D

http://nationallampoon.com/files/2009/01/hooker.gif

[BillBoard]

You can't fake empathy , Billboard. That won't get you their business either. If you really want their business you have to show a genuine expression that you will do whatever you have to to make them happy & will make sure the work or service will be done to their satisfaction.

There may also be some bending required... :o ;D

http://nationallampoon.com/files/2009/01/hooker.gif




Show off! Couldn't wait to show off your legs ha, Horn?!

[Horn]

Show off! Couldn't wait to show off your legs ha, Horn?!


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1732367/how_to_fake_an_orgasm/

[Horn]

Truth be told, the most successful people I've ever met we're willing to accept & provide help of others where they had shortcomings, No strings.

Most of the time it takes two, and balance to Tango a long time.

[Buddha]

Your Type is
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
67 50 12 11

I'm a Healer apparently.

[Low_five]

my type is

s t f u

im stupid
I like titties. a lot
fat
ugly

im fucked.

[MNeagle]

bump

[gunDriller]

i'm an engineer.

i get paid to be anal-retentive :)