View Full Version : TSA encounter at SAN
Ares
13th November 2010, 05:17 PM
this isn't my encounter, thankfully the airport I left from didn't have the x-ray machines yet.
These events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 AM, November 13th in Terminal 2 of the San Diego International Airport. I'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection. I will admit to being particularly fuzzy on the exact order of events when dealing with the agents after getting my ticket refunded; however, all of the events described did occur.
I had my phone recording audio and video of much of these events. It can be viewed below.
Please spread this story as far and wide as possible. I will make no claims to copyright or otherwise.]
This morning, I tried to fly out of San Diego International Airport but was refused by the TSA. I had been somewhat prepared for this eventuality. I have been reading about the millimeter wave and backscatter x-ray machines and the possible harm to health as well as the vivid pictures they create of people's naked bodies. Not wanting to go through them, I had done my research on the TSA's website prior to traveling to see if SAN had them. From all indications, they did not. When I arrived at the security line, I found that the TSA's website was out of date. SAN does in fact utilize backscatter x-ray machines.
I made my way through the line toward the first line of "defense": the TSA ID checker. This agent looked over my boarding pass, looked over my ID, looked at me and then back at my ID. After that, he waved me through. SAN is still operating metal detectors, so I walked over to one of the lines for them. After removing my shoes and making my way toward the metal detector, the person in front of me in line was pulled out to go through the backscatter machine. After asking what it was and being told, he opted out. This left the machine free, and before I could go through the metal detector, I was pulled out of line to go through the backscatter machine. When asked, I half-chuckled and said, "I don't think so." At this point, I was informed that I would be subject to a pat down, and I waited for another agent.
A male agent (it was a female who had directed me to the backscatter machine in the first place), came and waited for me to get my bags and then directed me over to the far corner of the area for screening. After setting my things on a table, he turned to me and began to explain that he was going to do a "standard" pat down. (I thought to myself, "great, not one of those gropings like I've been reading about".) After he described, the pat down, I realized that he intended to touch my groin. After he finished his description but before he started the pat down, I looked him straight in the eye and said, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested." He, a bit taken aback, informed me that he would have to involve his supervisor because of my comment.
We both stood there for no more than probably two minutes before a female TSA agent (apparently, the supervisor) arrived. She described to me that because I had opted out of the backscatter screening, I would now be patted down, and that involved running hands up the inside of my legs until they felt my groin. I stated that I would not allow myself to be subject to a molestation as a condition of getting on my flight. The supervisor informed me that it was a standard administrative security check and that they were authorized to do it. I repeated that I felt what they were doing was a sexual assault, and that if they were anyone but the government, the act would be illegal. I believe that I was then informed that if I did not submit to the inspection, I would not be getting on my flight. I again stated that I thought the search was illegal. I told her that I would be willing to submit to a walk through the metal detector as over 80% of the rest of the people were doing, but I would not be groped. The supervisor, then offered to go get her supervisor.
I took a seat in a tiny metal chair next to the table with my belongings and waited. While waiting, I asked the original agent (who was supposed to do the pat down) if he had many people opt out to which he replied, none (or almost none, I don't remember exactly). He said that I gave up a lot of rights when I bought my ticket. I replied that the government took them away after September 11th. There was silence until the next supervisor arrived. A few minutes later, the female agent/supervisor arrived with a man in a suit (not a uniform). He gave me a business card identifying him as David Silva, Transportation Security Manager, San Diego International Airport. At this point, more TSA agents as well as what I assume was a local police officer arrived on the scene and surrounded the area where I was being detained. The female supervisor explained the situation to Mr. Silva. After some quick back and forth (that I didn't understand/hear), I could overhear Mr. Silva say something to the effect of, "then escort him from the airport." I again offered to submit to the metal detector, and my father-in-law, who was near by also tried to plead for some reasonableness on the TSA's part.
The female supervisor took my ID at this point and began taking some kind of report with which I cooperated. Once she had finished, I asked if I could put my shoes back on. I was allowed to put my shoes back on and gather my belongs. I asked, "are we done here" (it was clear at this point that I was going to be escorted out), and the local police officer said, "follow me". I followed him around the side of the screening area and back out to the ticketing area. I said apologized to him for the hassle, to which he replied that it was not a problem.
I made my way over to the American Airlines counter, explained the situation, and asked if my ticket could be refunded. The woman behind the counter furiously typed away for about 30 seconds before letting me know that she would need a supervisor. She went to the other end of the counter. When she returned, she informed me that the ticket was non-refundable, but that she was still trying to find a supervisor. After a few more minutes, she was able to refund my ticket. I told her that I had previously had a bad experience with American Airlines and had sworn never to fly with them again (I rationalized this trip since my father-in-law had paid for the ticket), but that after her helpfulness, I would once again be willing to use their carrier again.
At this point, I thought it was all over. I began to make my way to the stairs to exit the airport, when I was approached by another man in slacks and a sport coat. He was accompanied by the officer that had escorted me to the ticketing area and Mr. Silva. He informed me that I could not leave the airport. He said that once I start the screening in the secure area, I could not leave until it was completed. Having left the area, he stated, I would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine. I asked him if he was also going to fine the 6 TSA agents and the local police officer who escorted me from the secure area. After all, I did exactly what I was told. He said that they didn't know the rules, and that he would deal with them later. They would not be subject to civil penalties. I then pointed to Mr. Silva and asked if he would be subject to any penalties. He is the agents' supervisor, and he directed them to escort me out. The man informed me that Mr. Silva was new and he would not be subject to penalties, either. He again asserted the necessity that I return to the screening area. When I asked why, he explained that I may have an incendiary device and whether or not that was true needed to be determined. I told him that I would submit to a walk through the metal detector, but that was it; I would not be groped. He told me that their procedures are on their website, and therefore, I was fully informed before I entered the airport; I had implicitly agreed to whatever screening they deemed appropriate. I told him that San Diego was not listed on the TSA's website as an airport using Advanced Imaging Technology, and I believed that I would only be subject to the metal detector. He replied that he was not a webmaster, and I asked then why he was referring me to the TSA's website if he didn't know anything about it. I again refused to re-enter the screening area.
The man asked me to stay put while he walked off to confer with the officer and Mr. Silva. They went about 20 feet away and began talking amongst themselves while I waited. I couldn't over hear anything, but I got the impression that the police officer was recounting his version of the events that had transpired in the screening area (my initial refusal to be patted down). After a few minutes, I asked loudly across the distance if I was free to leave. The man dismissively held up a finger and said, "hold on". I waited. After another minute or so, he returned and asked for my name. I asked why he needed it, and reminded him that the female supervisor/agent had already taken a report. He said that he was trying to be friendly and help me out. I asked to what end. He reminded me that I could be sued civilly and face a $10,000 fine and that my cooperation could help mitigate the penalties I was facing. I replied that he already had my information in the report that was taken and I asked if I was free to leave. I reminded him that he was now illegally detaining me and that I would not be subject to screening as a condition of leaving the airport. He told me that he was only trying to help (I should note that his demeanor never suggested that he was trying to help. I was clearly being interrogated.), and that no one was forcing me to stay. I asked if tried to leave if he would have the officer arrest me. He again said that no one was forcing me to stay. I looked him in the eye, and said, "then I'm leaving". He replied, "then we'll bring a civil suit against you", to which I said, "you bring that suit" and walked out of the airport.
This video starts with my bag and belongings going through the x-ray machine.They're kind of long, and they don't show much, but the audio is really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txGwoITSj4
I was in the middle of telling someone that if I was going to be felt up, I wanted it done in public so that everyone could see what it is that the TSA does. Here is the rest of that video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RaFZ1CElU8
After I was escorted out to the ticketing area, I went to have my ticket refunded. I didn't have the opportunity or the presence of mind to turn the camera back on until everyone walked away from me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFh8HQttTQ
http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html
palani
13th November 2010, 05:36 PM
Upon an offer to be groped an acceptable counteroffer might be "If you agree to pay me $50,000 per minute you may proceed (but no squeezing).
Surely to protect hundreds of lives and a $200 million jet some quid pro quo ought to be in order.
gunDriller
13th November 2010, 05:41 PM
sure does create an incentive to drive instead of fly.
Glass
13th November 2010, 05:45 PM
So it is not a criminal matter but a contractural/civil matter. The guy needs to get the web site copied showing that this airport was not listed for his legal defence.
ShortJohnSilver
13th November 2010, 05:48 PM
Basically they are locking down all exits out of America via this. Will have to go to Canada via car, then fly from there if you want to fly overseas without being molested or subjected to privacy violation.
palani
13th November 2010, 05:50 PM
sure does create an incentive to drive instead of fly.
See if you can figure this one out:
NEVER
- DRIVE
_______
RIDE
Each letter a number. No repeats. Use rules of math to figure out each number.
palani
13th November 2010, 05:54 PM
So it is not a criminal matter but a contractural/civil matter.
Public law was abolished with gold in the '30s. All you have left is offer and acceptance and the only way to cancel an offer in honor is to counteroffer.
If a cop shows up at your doorstep with a signed warrant that too is an offer. Treat it as such.
1970 silver art
13th November 2010, 06:11 PM
sure does create an incentive to drive instead of fly.
As I have mentioned on another thread, I will NEVER get on an airplane to get from point A to point B. The story in the OP is just another reason to not get on an airplane.
madfranks
13th November 2010, 06:17 PM
Wow. I wish I could say I was shocked, but we all knew it would come down to this if anyone refused the molestation. And that's exactly what it is: if they have to feel up your leg until they touch your crotch, that is molestation. And the author is right; if anyone but the government was doing this it would be illegal.
platinumdude
13th November 2010, 06:37 PM
So what if you wear a cup?
RJB
13th November 2010, 06:39 PM
So what if you wear a cup?
They'll probably charge you with concealing...
Book
13th November 2010, 06:46 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/08/04/palestinian.infighting/art.fatah.afp.jpg
Fatah members are led handcuffed and blindfolded through a Gaza City checkpoint into Israel on Saturday.
http://electronicintifada.net/artman2/uploads/1/070501-huwara-checkpoint.jpg
West Bank Checkpoint.
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/090908/GAL-09Sep08-2578/media/PHO-09Sep08-177492.jpg
Palestinians being treated like US Citizens by TSA.
:oo-->
Libertytree
13th November 2010, 07:28 PM
Great heads up of what can happen when dealing with .gov thugs. I don't mind flying at all but I can say with a 99% certainty that I'll never fly again, for the simple reason that I know my smart ass mouth and beligerant attitude would likely land me in jail, a court room or both. It's easier to just drive and avoid all that BS. Not to mention they're a bunch of thieves too! Both going to and from Costa Rica they stole me blind.
Ares
13th November 2010, 08:18 PM
Thanks for sharing what you went thru with us.
Don't thank me :)
thank this guy. http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html
I put a disclaimer at the top of the article. I was flying last week, out of Orlando. They were in the process of implementing the body scanners and thankfully I just got to go through a metal detector.
Filthy Keynes
13th November 2010, 08:21 PM
Can we strip naked and make a huge show out of it in front of little 9year old girls and other passengers and create a scene with our huge penises sticking out? Oh,.... that would be "indecent exposure". I wonder if we could just walk naked through the airport as a protest. Perhaps we could get nude and squat and take a huge sh*t on the floor of the machine. Imagine if every person did that - a huge pile of sh*t on the floor of the machines everwhere.
This story is scary. Because they really ARE blocking every exit. I am glad I escaped USA last year.
It gives me the willies that perhaps we won't go back to honest money and instead they will pull "the mark of the beast" on us.
milehi
13th November 2010, 08:27 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
Filthy Keynes
13th November 2010, 08:28 PM
I hate government employees. So smug. So arrogant. So indifferent. Soooo... unappreciative of how they get paid by "money" stolen through Federal Reserve notes by raping the real producers. Ugh. I can't read this thread any more. It's sickening.
A lot of their arrogance comes from their "UNIFORMS". There is something empowering about that stripe in their trouser legs, that Masonic badge they wear and the cocky way they put their walkie-talkie in their pocket and press the button.
Little men with no skills what so ever getting their ego's stoked to ejaculation. Disgusting!
Twisted Titan
13th November 2010, 10:19 PM
I hate government employees. So smug. So arrogant. So indifferent. Soooo... unappreciative of how they get paid by "money" stolen through Federal Reserve notes by raping the real producers. Ugh. I can't read this thread any more. It's sickening.
A lot of their arrogance comes from their "UNIFORMS". There is something empowering about that stripe in their trouser legs, that Masonic badge they wear and the cocky way they put their walkie-talkie in their pocket and press the button.
Little men with no skills what so ever getting their ego's stoked to ejaculation. Disgusting!
Thats right.
They couldnt cut it in the real world as a producer of anything ( not even a lemonade stand) So they join something that covers up for their lack competency.
Bunch of sorry sap rejects.......I dam near cant wait till the rumble comes and then watch with the utmost glee as it finnally starts to seep into those fogged brains the uniforms they sport around in are actually crosshairs. to those who are fed up.
Its a terrifying feeling toknow you screwed over so many people but cant figure out when one is coming for you
T
solid
13th November 2010, 10:48 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
LOL. I was thinking they should make the molestation at least mutually beneficial. If they were smart, they would have hot TSA agents with skimpy outfits and big breasts, whispering in our ear, as they feel us up.
That wouldn't be so bad.
Until then, I think I'll stick to driving.
Libertytree
13th November 2010, 11:01 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
LMAO....Because of this BS I once took a flight in a pair of speedos, an XXlarge denim shirt, sandals and a small backpack....oh, and I was about half drunk to boot. The shirt was so big ya didn't know if I had shorts/pants on at all and lifting the shirt up at the check point was a riot, lol!!
Maybe this should become the norm?
sunshine05
14th November 2010, 05:25 AM
It gives me the willies that perhaps we won't go back to honest money and instead they will pull "the mark of the beast" on us.
I think you are right. The pilots group that is complaining about the scanners is asking for biometric ID as an alternative. I totally see that coming. The airports will be just the beginning.
gunDriller
14th November 2010, 06:09 AM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/
article about it on San Diego paper -
"John Tyner won't be pheasant hunting in South Dakota with his father-in-law any time soon.
Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.
And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
The 31-year-old Oceanside software programmer was supposed to leave from Lindbergh Field on Saturday morning and until a TSA agent directed him toward one of the recently installed full-body scanners, Tyner seemed to be on his way.
Tyner balked."
mick silver
14th November 2010, 07:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o&playnext=1&list=PL9D8CFF57A820805B&index=8
midnight rambler
14th November 2010, 11:34 AM
Your right to locomotion has been under attack for decades, this latest from the TSA is just more of the same that's been happening for years and years with automobiles and boats. Depriving you of your freedom of movement is at the top of their agenda. The sooner you take positive and concrete action by applying remedy the less grief you're going to have.
Silence is acceptance.
cthulu
14th November 2010, 11:45 AM
Silence is acceptance.
I keep hearing this, and that is a fallacy.
palani
14th November 2010, 12:12 PM
Silence is acceptance.
I keep hearing this, and that is a fallacy.
Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent. Jenk. Cent. 32.
There is no fallacy involved. If I send you a notice and you decide to ignore it then you have agreed to it. If you get a traffic ticket and hold onto it for 72 hours without abating the nuisance then you don't have a leg to stand on.
cthulu
14th November 2010, 12:26 PM
Silence is acceptance.
I keep hearing this, and that is a fallacy.
Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent. Jenk. Cent. 32.
There is no fallacy involved. If I send you a notice and you decide to ignore it then you have agreed to it. If you get a traffic ticket and hold onto it for 72 hours without abating the nuisance then you don't have a leg to stand on.
That's your form of tyranny. That's how groups, such as cfr, operate and give their speeches to each other and publish their speeches and think becaues the public is silent on it that they can do whatever they want. I have better things to do than to sit around and look for obscure publications created by sick-minded individuals, but because they operate on this absurd fallacy, I'm forced--you read that?--FORCED to waste time defending my existence. Just because there is silence doesn't mean nothing is being said. The audible/visible spectum is 1/infinitith of the whole range of electromagnetic spectrum, and yet you want to dictate to me based on this insignificance? :lol
This game can easily be flipped around, but of course, you'll dismiss it as frivolous, once against proving you subscribe to your own obsolete interpretations of force/might/strength/tyranny.
palani
14th November 2010, 12:49 PM
Silence is acceptance.
I keep hearing this, and that is a fallacy.
Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent. Jenk. Cent. 32.
There is no fallacy involved. If I send you a notice and you decide to ignore it then you have agreed to it. If you get a traffic ticket and hold onto it for 72 hours without abating the nuisance then you don't have a leg to stand on.
That's your form of tyranny. That's how groups, such as cfr, operate and give their speeches to each other and publish their speeches and think becaues the public is silent on it that they can do whatever they want. I have better things to do than to sit around and look for obscure publications created by sick-minded individuals, but because they operate on this absurd fallacy, I'm forced--you read that?--FORCED to waste time defending my existence. Just because there is silence doesn't mean nothing is being said. The audible/visible spectum is 1/infinitith of the whole range of electromagnetic spectrum, and yet you want to dictate to me based on this insignificance? :lol
This game can easily be flipped around, but of course, you'll dismiss it as frivolous, once against proving you subscribe to your own obsolete interpretations of force/might/strength/tyranny.
You can rail against this idea all you like or you can consider it and decide how it can work to your advantage. After all, rules that have application to you also have application to the ones trying to apply them to you.
In my case I invited anyone who holds public office to engage in a charitable trust (aka a "government") and all they had to do was send an oath and bond to me so that I could hold them accountable. I did this by legal notice and recorded the outcome. Everybody in the world went silent on me and accepted. I like that. They all agreed that there is no government and they hold no office and I can claim TORT if they interfere with me.
You might want to review the maxims of commercial law
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NM_5_i-y8iIJ:xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/21089293/1103739747/name/Maxims%2Bof%2BCommercial%2BLaw.doc+ten+commercial+ maxims&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
madfranks
14th November 2010, 03:37 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
Next time I take a flight I'm going to put a banana in my shorts.
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 04:14 PM
article about it on San Diego paper -
DRUDGE.COM Millions read.
http://drudgereport.com/
I read this, thanks for the link, drudge has linked to this specific case, same link,
and for a week has been bringing great exposure to TSA " mismanagement" .
TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check
By Robert J. Hawkins
Originally published November 14, 2010 at 12:07 a.m., updated November 14, 2010 at 2:06 p.m.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/
Palestinians being treated like US Citizens by TSA.
:oo-->
Book has their number , this was all planned, this has nothing to do with security,
it is a show of force, an experiment even. We predicted things like this, freedom
erosion, etc, cause of wars and 9/11 on gim. All the apologists and trolls for
Israel and 9/11 disinfo artists need to be stripped searched and sent to their
real home, is ra hell . What Book points to is a deliberate program by same
criminals.
http://i53.tinypic.com/2vd1snt.jpg
Libertytree
14th November 2010, 04:19 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
Next time I take a flight I'm going to put a banana in my shorts.
You'll probably get cited for smuggling non approved fruit. :)
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 04:27 PM
The next time I *have* to fly, I'm not going to wear underwear.
Next time I take a flight I'm going to put a banana in my shorts.
The link works, go to youtube, they disabled it for embed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSEf_4F3jk&
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 04:33 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2agkyr.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHSGvNwRY
bootstrap
14th November 2010, 04:40 PM
Luckily at the moment they don't have body scanners at my home airport, but I know its only a manner of time before they will. I might just start traveling in pajamas once that happens. However, that might bar me from some of the airline lounges though. :(
Unfortunately, I've been patted down a few times. In my own experience the TSA agents have always used the back of their hand and I've escaped molestation. I guess I should be considered fortunate.
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 04:45 PM
Israeli companies run security at major airports.
For those of you that still don't get it, those that do can actually predict
their moves, we did long ago, general moves, they are communist moves.
They did 9/11, other false flags, and planned all of this.
Israeli companies were in charge at all airports on 9/11,
they have other history too, they ran security at WTC too.
All their people at key positions.
THE GREATEST INVESTIGATOR
http://www.bollyn.com/index.php
Book has the best point here in this thread.
All of this has been planned way ahead of time.
midnight rambler
14th November 2010, 04:48 PM
...come up with some kind of game you're trying to play with the child...
Yes, it is a game.
gunDriller
14th November 2010, 05:14 PM
Israeli companies run security at major airports, it is all Jews, it is ZOG.
For those of you that still don't get it, those that do can actually predict
their moves, we did long ago, general moves, they are communist moves.
They did 9/11, other false flags, and planned all of this.
Israeli companies were in charge at all airports on 9/11,
they have other history too, they ran security at WTC too.
All their people at key positions.
THE GREATEST INVESTIGATOR
http://www.bollyn.com/index.php
Book has the best point here in this thread.
All of this has been planned way ahead of time.
John O'Neill was a serious counter-terrorism investigator for the FBI. As in, Head of Counter-Terrorism. But he was stymied in his efforts - blocked by other FBI managers and intelligence agencies from carrying out his duties.
He resigned for a job in the private sector. His new job ? $300K a year as ... director of security for the WTC.
His first day at work ? September 11, 2001.
When Building 7 was destroyed, a lot of evidence about financial crimes was also destroyed.
Among other things, 9-11 was a house-cleaning operation by the Jewish mafia and Israel and similar organizations that currently run the USA. Provoking a "War on/of Terror" was the primary goal, but they handed out freebies to team members.
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 05:34 PM
It is like preaching to the choir at times,
but key facts of past need to be presented again.
I did that, Book did that, gunDriller did that. Just reminders.
Non of this nonsense is possible without understanding
what happened these last 10 years, all the scandals, 9/11,
laws like Patriot Act, and on and on ... the engineers.
Worse is coming IMO.
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 10:06 PM
Non of this nonsense is possible without understanding
what happened these last 10 years, all the scandals, 9/11,
laws like Patriot Act, and on and on ... the engineers.
I just did a search, we ain't alone, people get it, look at the google searches. lol
Is Chertoff going to get a report on this ? He is point man for everything.
http://i53.tinypic.com/nytt8o.jpg
MAGNES
14th November 2010, 11:06 PM
Just went to http://drudgereport.com/ before bed.
Are they reading here ?
The top headline is now the original blog post in this thread.
SCANS, HANDS OR FINES
http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html
The original news account they have is highlighted in margin in red.
Was it posted here first, I don't know.
TSA agents eject man from airport for opting out of 'groin check'...
'You touch my junk and I'm going to have you arrested'...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/
And they linked to the youtube video I just posted above,
German Pirate Party protesting naked body scanners.
I got the link from a very non PC forum. lol
They probably reading there too, where else for truth gophers.
215,000 thousand views , before morning headlines,
that brunette is just hard to forget. ;D
Some coincidences or whole blogosphere covering same stuff.
Reading forums, full of great finds from all over the web, why not.
I have noticed stuff recently and over the years on gim.
They are even directly linking to infowars.
Drudge, send us a signal. ;D
Recently, Rivero on WRH responded to my emails, good guy.
Good work DRUDGE.
http://i54.tinypic.com/xknksw.jpg
MAGNES
15th November 2010, 02:34 PM
Drudge is really hammering this story some more, lol , like no other story.
They still have 2 links to it, changing titles, to get more readership I believe.
No more 3 year old searches, like the video I put up above.
SCANS, HANDS OR FINES...
'DON'T TOUCH MY JUNK'...
TSA to pat down children as young as 13...
" Already the TSA has given a little ground after the flood of complaints, announcing that it has eliminated patdowns for children under 12 and will develop alternative procedures for pilots who are already subject to extensive security checks. "
They have new links everyday on margin on TSA.
They really did a number on TSA.
Another saved headline on drudge. Huge readership, millions.
THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON NOV 15 2010
http://i51.tinypic.com/35n7lno.jpg
MAGNES
15th November 2010, 02:40 PM
Drudge linked to this, it is still there, youtube is censoring it.
A girl in a bikini. What bullsh*t, you tube is helping TSA.
It was shown recently that TSA is monitoring the net and responding.
They have their own disinfo office for this, monitoring.
It got 100,000 + hits from drudge so far in one day, one day.
You Tube just neutered it, it ain't going to top now.
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http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DrZSEf_4F3jk
Filthy Keynes
15th November 2010, 04:27 PM
Good, good, good!
gunDriller
15th November 2010, 05:57 PM
Drudge is really hammering this story some more, lol , like no other story.
GOOD !
one more Elena Kagan picture and i was going to :puke
MAGNES
15th November 2010, 06:19 PM
Drudge just removed the German bikini protest, You Tube messed it up.
They got more, http://drudgereport.com/ , some real TSA porn.
I have been studying drudge for a while, decided to post some here.
I strongly believe they are on this thread, one move after another,
there is a few of them corresponding with this thread, even last 24hrs.
Makes sense, cherry pick from 10 forums full of gopher cherry pickers.
from drudge hotlink,
http://drudgereport.com/tsa1.jpg
tinypic
http://i53.tinypic.com/2gtc3fq.jpg
Here is some mockery on air from Canada, credit to WRH.
Imagine just 20 - 30 years ago this sort of thing would be unthinkable.
All the degeneracy promoted, porn , sexualizing children beauty, stuff
that would of been hidden from public view making it to prime time.
All of this contributed to a desensitized society making this possible.
Meanwhile YouTube censors a girl in a bikini, making a political statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZfbTlYpKYo
ximmy
15th November 2010, 06:39 PM
Welcome to the Janet Napoligula orgy... already in progress
MAGNES
15th November 2010, 07:50 PM
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
Is really ripping them a new one too, lots of spoofs and satire attacks on TSA.
MSNBC
Tips to ensure the TSA doesn't swipe your stuff
Passengers come forth with tales of airport theft
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24187702/
" Since it was created in 2001, the agency has fired about 200 employees accused of stealing. Although the TSA has taken steps to discourage these government workers from helping themselves to our personal effects — including background checks on new hires, video cameras in screening areas and rules forbidding backpacks or lunchboxes at checkpoints — more and more passengers like Fleiss are coming forward to say they’ve been ripped off by the very people who are supposed to protect them. "
Warning on language, a rap spoof attacking TSA .
Someone already posted this I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7AWw7t5zj0
Filthy Keynes
15th November 2010, 08:52 PM
Someone made this Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=111579078909642
National Day of Protest/OPT Out day Body Scanners Kennedy Airport, NY
Share · Public event
Time
24 November · 15:00 - 20:00
Location Kennedy Airport Terminal 8 American Airlines Juan Valdez Café/Newslink Pre-Security Prior to Security Jamaica, NY 11422
Created by:
Gigi Bowman
More info The country is having a National Day or Protest/OPT Out day for the naked body scanners.
If you are traveling on this busiest travel day of the year then please OPT OUT! But for the rest of us not traveling we will be printing up fliers and handing them out to travelers at Kennedy Airport (where NY's first Scanners were installed) telling people to Opt Out and why they should!
Protect your health & Privacy!
The dangers of radiation The unconstitutional nature of the scanners
Assemble at the Kennedy Airport - American Airlines Terminal 8 - Pre-Security Area - Juan Valdez Cafe
Filthy Keynes
15th November 2010, 08:53 PM
Also this one:
http://www.flyingpasties.com/
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-99048815036385_2133_1892609
Filthy Keynes
15th November 2010, 08:55 PM
Long Island club:
The TSA Backlash Continues!!!
http://www.savelongisland.org/home/2010/11/15/the-tsa-backlash-continues.html
mike88
15th November 2010, 11:04 PM
Senate commitee meets this Thursday, i wrote Maria Cantwell, my senator who is a member, with my opinion. Sen Jay Rockefeller D W VA is commitee chairman. Forum called flyertalk.com has a full list of senators and phone # s of those on the airline transportation comittee. Cannot hurt to call and leave a message.
MAGNES
16th November 2010, 01:26 PM
More from Drudge, they are highlighting the 3 year old girl story, again.
They are using different links to pound the stories home, making TSA look bad.
TSA pats down a screaming toddler...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=77140&tsp=1
Original story in OP being updated.
TSA to investigate body scan resister
Oceanside man took a stand against security, went viral
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/tsa-probe-scan-resistor/
Lots of linking to infowars and prisonplanet for more than a week,
I have never seen anything like this from them. Great .
TSA Now Putting Hands Down Fliers’ Pants
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-now-putting-hands-down-fliers-pants/
MAGNES
16th November 2010, 01:30 PM
Senate commitee meets this Thursday, i wrote Maria Cantwell, my senator who is a member, with my opinion. Sen Jay Rockefeller D W VA is commitee chairman. Forum called flyertalk.com has a full list of senators and phone # s of those on the airline transportation comittee. Cannot hurt to call and leave a message.
Mike you most likely know all this, others are reading here.
Call from a pay phone.
You are actually communicating with THE BEAST, FED owners and engineers of the Beast System .
It is not just about money. TSA it their baby.
Rockfeller and other top Jews are on that committee,
they know everything is a scam cause they planned it all.
Rockefeller tells him about an event, a police state, and
he can get " free passes ". Short and longer versions,
must viewing.
The same Jay Rockefeller wants to destroy the internet, " it was a mistake ", his words.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aaron+russo+rockefeller
2 minute version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKlq9e8zlPE
10 minute version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA
DMac
16th November 2010, 01:36 PM
Tickerguy chiming in today as well. Popular story on the web lately, the backlash against the TSA:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=172428
At least the NAZIs just asked for your ID. TSA wants to touch your cock.
:puke
DMac
16th November 2010, 01:46 PM
The TSA's Sense of Humor Makes Me Nervous (http://gizmodo.com/5688087/the-tsas-sense-of-humor-makes-me-nervous)
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-2.jpg
This is a photo of the TSA booth by the security check-in point at Indianapolis International Airport. Take a close look at the wallpaper on the computer in that booth. Nervous yet?
In case you don't recognize the image in the wallpaper, it's this fake children's book cover:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-book.jpg
While I'm really glad to see that TSA security personnel has a sense of humor, I really wish it didn't involve poking fun of my third biggest travel nightmare.
DMac
16th November 2010, 01:50 PM
Another good idea:
Blog calls for men to wear kilts, sans underpants, to protest TSA screenings (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/blog-wear-kilt-underpants-protest-tsa-screenings/)
Fk it, why not just strip right there in the middle of security if they ask you to get the pat down. Indecent exposure? It would be worth the charge for the international media circus it would create.
Filthy Keynes
16th November 2010, 01:56 PM
The TSA's Sense of Humor Makes Me Nervous (http://gizmodo.com/5688087/the-tsas-sense-of-humor-makes-me-nervous)
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-2.jpg
This is a photo of the TSA booth by the security check-in point at Indianapolis International Airport. Take a close look at the wallpaper on the computer in that booth. Nervous yet?
In case you don't recognize the image in the wallpaper, it's this fake children's book cover:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-book.jpg
While I'm really glad to see that TSA security personnel has a sense of humor, I really wish it didn't involve poking fun of my third biggest travel nightmare.
Where did you get that photo from?! If that is really real (ie, not Photoshopped) then it is even worse than we all thought.
DMac
16th November 2010, 02:00 PM
The TSA's Sense of Humor Makes Me Nervous (http://gizmodo.com/5688087/the-tsas-sense-of-humor-makes-me-nervous)
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-2.jpg
This is a photo of the TSA booth by the security check-in point at Indianapolis International Airport. Take a close look at the wallpaper on the computer in that booth. Nervous yet?
In case you don't recognize the image in the wallpaper, it's this fake children's book cover:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/11/500x_tsa-humor-book.jpg
While I'm really glad to see that TSA security personnel has a sense of humor, I really wish it didn't involve poking fun of my third biggest travel nightmare.
Where did you get that photo from?! If that is really real (ie, not Photoshopped) then it is even worse than we all thought.
Looks legit, per the photagrapher's flickr account:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgrdcm/3304306634/
MAGNES
16th November 2010, 02:16 PM
Another good idea:
Blog calls for men to wear kilts, sans underpants, to protest TSA screenings (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/blog-wear-kilt-underpants-protest-tsa-screenings/)
Fk it, why not just strip right there in the middle of security if they ask you to get the pat down. Indecent exposure? It would be worth the charge for the international media circus it would create.
Instead of them going down my pants
like the above guy reports and linked by drudge, they can go up my
kilt. I hear here are cool black boots with steel toes and heels that fit
well with a kilt like that. There are cool sites online that sell very manly
kilts and matching boots.
Have a look at this, BOOK has the best point here, the MO and purpose.
It has nothing to do with security, Israeli companies even run security at US airports.
They have tremendous influence.
BUT, they don't do this in Israel.
Full-body scanners are waste of money, Israeli expert says
By Sarah Schmidt, Canwest News Service April 23, 2010
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Full+body+scanners+waste+money+Israeli+expert+says/2941610/story.html
A leading Israeli airport security expert says the Canadian government has wasted millions of dollars to install "useless" imaging machines at airports across the country.
"I don't know why everybody is running to buy these expensive and useless machines. I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747," Rafi Sela told parliamentarians probing the state of aviation safety in Canada.
"That's why we haven't put them in our airport," Sela said, referring to Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion International Airport, which has some of the toughest security in the world.
Filthy Keynes
16th November 2010, 03:57 PM
This thing is going viral. Even some of my "Tea Party" facebook friends are posting videos about this and organizing "National Opt-Out Day" on Nov 24th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1yWNHSjJw
Filthy Keynes
16th November 2010, 04:06 PM
Another one. They handcuffed her to a chair and then ripped her ticket up in front of her face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvsAgpfig
Low_five
16th November 2010, 04:24 PM
Just went through security at San Fransisco, because we had a round trip to visit family in cali, and a round trip from there to visit family in Austin. we had to pick up our bags, and check right back in and go through security. There were sheep just walking through like it was no prob. My wife got told to go through the scanner and she told them to pound sand. They made her wait in a clear plastic box while they called for a female to come over. a... big girl.. came over and felt her from the waist down. not inside the skirt. she said it was very light. They didnt want to pat me down or scan me. or my 1.5 year old.
pretty 1984tastic.
1970 silver art
16th November 2010, 04:54 PM
TSA full body scannns and TSA full body pat downs at airports = a victory for the terrorists and a defeat for the U.S. citizens.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
MAGNES
21st November 2010, 06:29 PM
From “Don’t Tread On Me” To “Don’t Touch My Junk”
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/11/from-dont-tread-on-me-to-dont-touch-my.html
MR NEOCONARTIST, Charles Krauthammer is mocking us , quoted in above article.
All his best friends are responsible for this, like Chertoff and Soros being named.
http://i56.tinypic.com/mkc8e1.jpg
BrewTech
21st November 2010, 07:07 PM
This thing is going viral. Even some of my "Tea Party" facebook friends are posting videos about this and organizing "National Opt-Out Day" on Nov 24th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1yWNHSjJw
JUST LIKE THE 911 HIJACKERS, these illegal aliens BLAH BLAH BLAH
Typical teaparty neocon loser... backing up the "official scary mooslims did 911 I'm totally in favor of security I hate mexicans" meme...
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