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Ares
16th November 2010, 04:10 PM
From the LEGISLATIVE DAY OF NOVEMBER 15, 2010 111TH CONGRESS – SECOND SESSION

Start from bottom up at the 2:13 mark…

2:15 P.M. -
ONE MINUTE SPEECHES – The House proceeded with one minute speeches.

H.R. 3808:
to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce

2:14 P.M. -
VETO MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT – The Chair laid before the House the veto message from the President on H.R. 3808. The objections of the President were spread at large upon the Journal, and the veto message was ordered to be printed as a House Document No. 111-152. Pursuant to the order of the House of earlier today, further consideration of the veto message and the bill are postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010, and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion.

2:13 P.M. -
The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk transmitted H.R. 3808, the “Interstate Recognition of Notarization Act of 2010,” and a Memorandum of Disapproval thereon received from the White House on October 8, 2010, at 12:55 p.m.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when the House adjourns on Monday, November 15, 2010, it adjourn to meet at 12:30 p.m. on Tuesday, November 16, 2010, for Morning-Hour Debate. Agreed to without objection.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when a veto message on H.R. 3808 is laid before the House on the legislative day of today, then after the message is read and the objections of the President are spread at large upon the Journal, further consideration of the veto message and the bill shall be postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010; and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion. Agreed to without objection.

Looks like it is time for another crash course on how this works…

Veto Override Procedure in the House and Senate

Summary

A bill or joint resolution that has been vetoed by the President can become law if two-thirds of the Members voting in the House and the Senate each agree to pass it over the President’s objection. The chambers act sequentially on vetoed measures; the House acts first on House-originated measures (H.R. and H.J. Res.) and the Senate acts first on Senate-originated measures (S. and S.J. Res.). If the first-acting chamber fails to override the veto, the measure dies and the other chamber does not consider it. The House typically considers the question of overriding a presidential veto under the hour rule, with time customarily controlled and allocated by the chair and ranking member of the committee with jurisdiction over the bill. The Senate usually considers the question of overriding a veto under the terms of a unanimous consent agreement.

Voting in the House

To override a veto, two-thirds of the Members voting, a quorum being present, must agree to repass the bill over the President’s objections. The Constitution requires that the vote be by the “yeas and nays,” which in the modern House means that Members’ votes will be recorded through the electronic voting system. The vote on the veto override is final because, in contrast to votes on most other questions in the House, a motion to reconsider the vote on the question of overriding a veto is not in order.

Full rules below…

Check back for updates…

UPDATE: JUST CONFIRMED WITH THE BILL’S SPONSOR STAFF IN WASHINGTON DC AND THERE WILL BE A VOTE TO OVERRIDE OR UPHOLD THE PRESIDENTS VETO WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 17, 2010.

GET ON THE PHONES AND CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOW AND TELL THEM TO UPHOLD THE PRESIDENTS VETO!

http://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/16/action-alert-its-back-h-r-3808-interstate-recognition-of-notarization-act-of-2010/

mick silver
16th November 2010, 04:15 PM
what are they veto on

General of Darkness
16th November 2010, 04:16 PM
Can I get a synopsis of the bill?

Ares
16th November 2010, 04:25 PM
This is that Bill that Obummer "pocket veto'd" it would legalize mortgage fraud for the banks if it passed.

sirgonzo420
16th November 2010, 04:27 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this bill is to cover the asses of MERS and all the mortgage people (all of whom routinely deal in fraud).

ShortJohnSilver
16th November 2010, 04:29 PM
Can I get a synopsis of the bill?


As I understand it, this bill overrides individual state's requirements for recognition of notarized documents and forces states to recognize notarized docs from another state.

Effectively this will kill the ability of a person to argue against what is called "fraudclosure" where the bank hires morons with no knowlege of the actual loan documents to just sign and sign in order to perfect an imperfect set of docs.

mick silver
16th November 2010, 04:31 PM
i just hope i live long enought to see us get our country back

General of Darkness
16th November 2010, 06:01 PM
So Obongo did the right thing?

sirgonzo420
16th November 2010, 07:20 PM
So Obongo did the right thing?


Nah, he just didn't do the wrong thing.

;D

BillBoard
17th November 2010, 02:19 AM
It is a setup. They will override the veto, and O' can then claim to have done the right thing.


Always think of the big picture.

sirgonzo420
17th November 2010, 05:05 AM
It is a setup. They will override the veto, and O' can then claim to have done the right thing.


Always think of the big picture.


eg zackly