Academic achievement gap between black and white students: who cares?

[Jersey Thursday]

The outcry (from MSM) in reports like this are puzzling. Some race has to be at the bottom of the curve. If it was people of Eskimo decent would it be a “crises”?

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-report-on-black-male-achievement-gap-prompts-calls-for-actio/19713101

[sirgonzo420]

Gee, ya mean the races are different?


Who knew? :oo-->

[skid]

I don't suppose the difference in the average IQ between blacks and whites makes a difference...

[madfranks]

Gee, ya mean the races are different?


Who knew? :oo-->





Facts are racist.

[k-os]

It all goes back to what is valued by the people around you are in your formative years. If the people around you value intelligence and education, you are more likely to strive for those things. If the people around you value giant wheels and spinning rims for your vehicle, you will be more likely to strive for those things.

This is a nugget in that article worth considering:


"There's accumulating evidence that there are racial differences in what kids experience before the first day of kindergarten," Ronald Ferguson, director of the Achievement Gap Initiative at Harvard, told The New York Times, which first reported the study this week. "They have to do with a lot of sociological and historical forces. In order to address those, we have to be able to have conversations that people are unwilling to have."


The problem starts and ends at home. I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. I think that education is not valued in their households. Black parents are less likely to read to their children, help with homework, to attend PTA meetings or parent-teacher conferences.

Oh no, that's not the conversation that people are unwilling to have . . . it's


Comer agrees. He said the role of race and racism in education cannot be ignored. Poor black boys, he said, often suffer from low expectations from their teachers and from society.


Which is bullshit, because that is a conversation that happens every damn day. We need another kind of conversation to happen, where personal responsibility makes it's appearance. That would be nice.

Why is Outlaw a smart guy with a college education? I don't know this for a fact, but I am guessing it's because the people around him while he was growing up made it clear that education is something of value.

[Awoke]

Good post K-os.

General of Darkness would disagree on the whole "IQ is not a race thing" though. ;D



They crux is the hollywood-perpetrated lie of glamour that is spoonfed to our youth.
The white kids are taught to be whores, sluts, and party animals.
The black kids are taught to emulate the lifestyles of pimps, drug dealers and violent criminals. The media teaches our kids that it is glamorous to embrace violence, lurid sexuality and promiscuity, drugs, money, jewelry, power VIA bullying, you name it.

The black kids in "black neighborhoods" are caught in a vicious cycle that no-one seems to want to break free from (Including the parents raising these kids in these neighborhoods). Then they just point the finger and "blame whitey" for all of their woes. That's where I take issue.

I'm not racist (at least, not intentionally), and I don't know the science behind our (whites) mental capacity versus their (blacks) mental capacity, but I do know that you can't keep your kid in a sh*tty neighborhood and raise him in a sh*tty community, and teach the kid sh*tty moral codes and let him/her hang out with a bunch of sh*tty firends that have sh*tty attitudes, and then blame someone else for your sh*tty life.

These kids are a product of their environment. It's not so simple to just say "Parents need to do a better job parenting" because this whole system has been carefully crafted to operate exactly how it is operating. At this point I don't think I need to tell you who has set this up so successfully, do I?

[hoarder]

I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. Intelligence depends on both environment and genetics.

Although there is much variation within each race, their AVERAGE IQ's are:

Blacks (in US) 85
Whites 100
Khazars 117

[Silver Shield]

Thorough indoctrination does not mean they are intelligent.

Regurgitating facts does not mean they are smart.

A diploma of any sort does not mean they can think.

Another meaningless measuring stick of an illusionary world.

[still afloat]

I once lead a horse to water , but try as I might I couldn't make him drink.
You can not force anyone of any race to get an education they don't want .
No teacher can teach a child without the support of the parents at home .
We have parents in our schools who actually send notes to the school telling the teacher to excuse Little Leroy for not having his homework because he had a ball game .Yes and then complain when little Leroy cant read or do simple math.
Is there anyone here that thinks they can be an expert shot after taking a single class if they never practice what they learn outside the class.No.

Its like the sayin'
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
The new I'm entitled generation thinks Why fish if someone will give me a fish and then they bitch if its not cooked just right.

[nunaem]

I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. Intelligence depends on both environment and genetics.

Although there is much variation within each race, their AVERAGE IQ's are:

Blacks (in US) 85
Whites 100
Khazars 117


I'd like to see how the top outliers affect the average IQ of their respective races. I'm willing to bet that the difference in IQ between the median black and the median white is smaller, and the difference between the top 1% of blacks and the top 1% of whites is much greater, so that the top whites uplift the average of whites.

[hoarder]

I'd like to see how the top outliers affect the average IQ of their respective races. I'm willing to bet that the difference in IQ between the median black and the median white is smaller, and the difference between the top 1% of blacks and the top 1% of whites is much greater, so that the top whites uplift the average of whites.

I think this is true of AshkeNAZI Jews (Khazars). Their IQ curve is less bell shaped, it's straight, meaning they have many above and many below the average. The Rothschilds IQ must exceed 200.
The difference between them and us is that their most intelligent actually runs things for the whole tribe.

[Awoke]

Where are you getting these figures from, Hoarder, and what makes them reliable?

[nunaem]

I'd like to see how the top outliers affect the average IQ of their respective races. I'm willing to bet that the difference in IQ between the median black and the median white is smaller, and the difference between the top 1% of blacks and the top 1% of whites is much greater, so that the top whites uplift the average of whites.

I think this is true of AshkeNAZI Jews (Khazars). Their IQ curve is less bell shaped, it's straight, meaning they have many above and many below the average. The Rothschilds IQ must exceed 200.
The difference between them and us is that their most intelligent actually runs things for the whole tribe.


No wonder they are so successful and we're so -- defeated. We have the lowest common denominators guiding our race... Isn't democracy great? :oo-->

[General of Darkness]

It's all DNA and genetics. Why are Ethiopians the top long distance runners, genetics. Why are the strongest men from Finland, genetics. Why is GoD so bitchen, genetics. ;)

[nunaem]

Where are you getting these figures from, Hoarder, and what makes them reliable?


I believe they are from the book, The Bell Curve. They are pretty reliable.

[Twisted Titan]

It all goes back to what is valued by the people around you are in your formative years. If the people around you value intelligence and education, you are more likely to strive for those things. If the people around you value giant wheels and spinning rims for your vehicle, you will be more likely to strive for those things.

This is a nugget in that article worth considering:


"There's accumulating evidence that there are racial differences in what kids experience before the first day of kindergarten," Ronald Ferguson, director of the Achievement Gap Initiative at Harvard, told The New York Times, which first reported the study this week. "They have to do with a lot of sociological and historical forces. In order to address those, we have to be able to have conversations that people are unwilling to have."


The problem starts and ends at home. I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. I think that education is not valued in their households. Black parents are less likely to read to their children, help with homework, to attend PTA meetings or parent-teacher conferences.

Oh no, that's not the conversation that people are unwilling to have . . . it's


Comer agrees. He said the role of race and racism in education cannot be ignored. Poor black boys, he said, often suffer from low expectations from their teachers and from society.


Which is bullsh*t, because that is a conversation that happens every damn day. We need another kind of conversation to happen, where personal responsibility makes it's appearance. That would be nice.

Why is Outlaw a smart guy with a college education? I don't know this for a fact, but I am guessing it's because the people around him while he was growing up made it clear that education is something of value.



I wonder where Mr Furgerson lives?

Is it well "deversified" neighborhood??

I wonder was he was taught about people that were not like him???

[cthulu]

Wait, so public school sucks and doesn't each anything, but let's bash blacks because they suck at it? Hey, I got some mining stocks that pay out in silver ounces...oh wait. :lol

[hoarder]

Where are you getting these figures from, Hoarder, and what makes them reliable?
Can't find the links now. The Bell Curve explains the flat AshkeNAZI IQ.

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.

The Master Race didn't become our masters by being dull.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=ashkenazi+iq+&go=&form=QBRE&qs=n&sk=&sc=1-13

[Book]

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.



Being sneaky and dishonest is intelligence?

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[nunaem]

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.



Being sneaky and dishonest is intelligence?

:oo-->


Being successful is intelligence.

[k-os]

I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. Intelligence depends on both environment and genetics.

Although there is much variation within each race, their AVERAGE IQ's are:

Blacks (in US) 85
Whites 100
Khazars 117





If the above is true, it just made me feel a lot smarter. ;D

[hoarder]

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.



Being sneaky and dishonest is intelligence?

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Morality and intellect are two entirely different issues, which most people cannot separate.

[cthulu]

I don't believe that IQ levels are that much different. Intelligence depends on both environment and genetics.

Although there is much variation within each race, their AVERAGE IQ's are:

Blacks (in US) 85
Whites 100
Khazars 117




That right there should tell you how worthless IQ tests are.

[Book]

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.



Being sneaky and dishonest is intelligence?

:oo-->


Being successful is intelligence.



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mUDzDbevInU/ScqZTablBzI/AAAAAAAAAao/wvYaEtBsENM/s400/cheating.jpg

Than in a Talmudist World being honest is being stupid.

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[sirgonzo420]

AshkeNAZI IQ is no secret. They are certainly the clever tribe.



Being sneaky and dishonest is intelligence?

:oo-->


Being successful is intelligence.



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mUDzDbevInU/ScqZTablBzI/AAAAAAAAAao/wvYaEtBsENM/s400/cheating.jpg

Then in a Talmudist World being honest is being stupid.

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fixed it for ya.

:)

[nunaem]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mUDzDbevInU/ScqZTablBzI/AAAAAAAAAao/wvYaEtBsENM/s400/cheating.jpg

Than in a Talmudist World being honest is being stupid.

:oo-->




In an entirely Talmudist world there would be no hosts and the Talmudists would die off. ;D

Honesty is an in-group virtue and an out-group potential liability.

[Awoke]

You give the jews too much credit. It is lucifer that has concieved every move they make. The plan is not founded by minds of men.

Also, I am curious who wrote/published "The Bell Curve"
Is that a book, or a monograph, or a paper or what?
I'm not being difficult on purpose, I am just not familiar with it.

[chad]

You give the jews too much credit. It is lucifer that has concieved every move they make. The plan is not founded by minds of men.

Also, I am curious who wrote/published "The Bell Curve"
Is that a book, or a monograph, or a paper or what?
I'm not being difficult on purpose, I am just not familiar with it.


guy from harvard wrote it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

i remember when it came out, every person on tv was calling him a racist. he faded away into obscurity, the college shamed him.

[Awoke]

Ahh. A book written by a jew attending a tavistock controlled inculcation center.
Nice.

[nunaem]

You give the jews too much credit. It is lucifer that has concieved every move they make. The plan is not founded by minds of men.


Did you read that in your Jew book err.. bible? ;D

[mick silver]

some people dig holes and some people tell others how to dig the holes . that the way life is ... an will always be that way

[Awoke]

You give the jews too much credit. It is lucifer that has concieved every move they make. The plan is not founded by minds of men.


Did you read that in your Jew book err.. bible? ;D


Good one. Touche.

However the scriptures were written when the jews were not 95% luciferian/ba'al servants.

[nunaem]

You give the jews too much credit. It is lucifer that has concieved every move they make. The plan is not founded by minds of men.


Did you read that in your Jew book err.. bible? ;D


Good one. Touche.

However the scriptures were written when the jews were not 95% luciferian/ba'al servants.


God should have been choosier with his people. ;D

[Awoke]

God doesn't make mistakes.

The jews make the mistake of turning their backs on him. As is it written.

[sirgonzo420]

God doesn't make mistakes.

The jews make the mistake of turning their backs on him. As is it written.



If God doesn't make mistakes, then God must have known man would fall; in fact, God must have intended it that way...

[nunaem]

God doesn't make mistakes.

The jews make the mistake of turning their backs on him. As is it written.



What makes you believe Jews were ever different?

Sorry this is from Wikipedia but it is sourced:

Although the Book of Exodus describes a period of Hebrew slavery in ancient Egypt, more than a century of archaeological research has discovered nothing which could support its narrative elements— the four centuries sojourn in Egypt, the escape of well over a million Israelites from the Delta, or the three months journey through the wilderness to Sinai.[5] In fact, the historical record of the Elephantine papyri states that some ancient Hebrews kept Egyptian slaves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt

Is the bible just a typical Jewish rewrite of history?

The Egyptians probably drove the Jews out after they destroyed their country, and the Jews painted them as the bad guys, in typical Jewish fashion.

[Ash_Williams]

Than in a Talmudist World being honest is being stupid.

If it's a self-defeating trait then yes.

A robber holds a gun to you head. "Do you have any guns or gold hidden in the house?" Go on, be honest, tell him you're loaded with both and where you're hiding it.

[Awoke]

Of course. God knows how this will all play out.
The point is that we're given a choice to follow him or lust after the material world.

This thread is getting derailed. The jews of today are not the jews of the old testament days.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Than in a Talmudist World being honest is being stupid.

If it's a self-defeating trait then yes.

A robber holds a gun to you head. "Do you have any guns or gold hidden in the house?" Go on, be honest, tell him you're loaded with both and where you're hiding it.


It's called a reverse panic room, you tell them it's all hidden in a special room that is nothing but booby traps. Probably illegal, but so is trespass :P