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Twisted Titan
21st November 2010, 09:01 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/20/obama.tsa/index.html



President Barack Obama stood by new controversial screening measures Saturday, calling methods such as pat-downs and body scans necessary to assure airline safety.

Speaking at a NATO press conference in Lisbon, Portugal, the president called the balance between protecting travelers' rights and their security a "tough situation."

Per the new rules, travelers may be subject to full-body scans at 400 such machines in 69 airports nationwide. Those who voluntarily opt out -- as well as those who set off a scanning machine or a metal detector -- are subject to a pat-down. Some travelers have likened the pat-downs to groping.

The president said such methods are needed after what happened December 25, 2009, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab of Nigeria allegedly boarded a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit with a bomb hidden in his underwear. Abdulmutallab reportedly failed to set off the bomb, which metal detectors didn't detect, though his attempt led to airport screening procedures that have caused a holiday travel uproar.




At this point, the Transportation Security Administration, in consultation with our counterterrorism experts, have indicated to me that the procedures that they've been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat that we saw in the Christmas Day bombing," said Obama.

TSA officers can use "professional discretion" to determine whether individuals should be subject to further screening, according to a statement from the federal agency. Critics have called the procedures invasive, with Rutherford Institute President John Whitehead saying the agency "is forcing travelers to consent to a virtual strip search or allow an unknown officer to literally place his or her hands in your pants."

The president, while noting that he didn't have personal experience with the new security measures, said he understands "people's frustrations. He said he's asked TSA for assurances that "what we're doing is the only way to assure the American people's safety." He said that he has also told the federal agency's administrators that they must consider whether there are "less intrusive" ways to obtain the same goals.

"One of the most frustrating aspects of this fight against terrorism is that it has created a whole security apparatus around us that causes huge inconvenience for all of us," he said.

Obama said that transportation security officials have a tough task, facing "enormous pressure" to prevent a terrorist attack.

In a public statement released Saturday, TSA Administrator John Pistole spelled out the new security measures and offered tips to those flying this Thanksgiving week.

"As you travel this holiday season, I want to remind you that TSA's mission is to ensure the safety of you the traveling public and we are committed to doing so efficiently, courteously and professionally," Pistole said.

In Portugal, the president vowed he'd try to find a way to make passengers feel more both comfortable and safe, whether it is through the current policies or with new ones.

"Every week I meet with my counterterrorism team and I'm constantly asking them whether -- is what we're doing absolutely necessary? Have we thought it through? Are there other ways of accomplishing it that meet the same objectives?" he said.

Twisted Titan
21st November 2010, 09:02 AM
I am certain Mr. Chertoffs shares are doing quite nicely on this news.

Horn
21st November 2010, 09:30 AM
What a prick.

Twisted Titan
21st November 2010, 09:55 AM
At what point do the airline company's step forward (after more declining sales) and tell Washington that the new "safety" measures are too much and has caused many to avoid flying?

I guess we won't know until the end of summer 2011 after seeing how many people decide a "staycation" is better than loading the kids up on a plane to go to Disney.



They will get subsidies from washington to offset any losses

Neuro
21st November 2010, 10:09 AM
The president said such methods are needed after what happened December 25, 2009, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab of Nigeria allegedly boarded a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit with a bomb hidden in his underwear. Abdulmutallab reportedly failed to set off the bomb, which metal detectors didn't detect, though his attempt led to airport screening procedures that have caused a holiday travel uproar.
He was bypassed normal airport security and even a passport control with the aid of his CIA handler.

mrnhtbr2232
21st November 2010, 10:10 AM
I wonder if it dawns on the flying public what kind of "professionals" are supposedly keeping us safe? Take a look at the stellar career opportunity yourself at $29,131 starting pay, be at least 18 years old, have a high school diploma, lift 70 pounds, be proficient in English, and bend, stoop, and stand for long periods. But the keeper is this:

If your credit check reveals any of the following, YOU WILL NOT
BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS POSITION:

* Defaulted on $7,500 or more in debt (excluding certain
circumstances of bankruptcy).
* Owe any delinquent Federal or State taxes.
* Owe any past due child support payments.

So in other words you're about as safe as being groped by the night watchman down at the tow yard. If our lives are in the hands of these people, wouldn't you consider that prima facie evidence the whole thing is a scam?

<a href="http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=91643662&JobTitle=Transportation+Security+Officer+%28TSO%29&q=TSA&lid=316&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&jbf574=HSBC&vw=b&re=134&FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&caller=basic.aspx&ss=0&AVSDM=2010-10-22+12%3a07%3a00">Transportation Security Officer(TSO)</a>

JohnQPublic
21st November 2010, 10:11 AM
At what point do the airline company's step forward (after more declining sales) and tell Washington that the new "safety" measures are too much and has caused many to avoid flying?

I guess we won't know until the end of summer 2011 after seeing how many people decide a "staycation" is better than loading the kids up on a plane to go to Disney.


Considering they gave up three planes full of passengers on 9/11/2001, I am not holding my breath.

Andy9999
21st November 2010, 10:21 AM
Pussies should stop flying or do what others did




Run on Allied Irish Banks, Customers Pull 17% of Deposits; Ghost Estates and Broken Lives: the Human Cost of the Irish Crash

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/run-on-allied-irish-banks-customers.html

Andy9999
21st November 2010, 11:34 AM
Friday, August 14, 2009
Catherine Austin Fitts: interview on the Jeff Rense Show 07-29-2009

Catherine Austin Fitts continues the theme of decentralization by encouraging everyone to take their daily lives into their own hands and to change their patterns so that local community growth is encouraged and centralized institutional control broken. You can do so by withdrawing your money from any of the big bailed out banks and putting it into a local bank. Buy precious metal coins and trade them as currency with others instead of dollars. Earn a 4% return (based on inflation and lack of a income tax chanrge) by buying and stocking up on commodity food and household items such as paper towels.

Also discussed is analysis of the ongoing corruption and fraud by the fed and the banks. Catherine talks about her run in with the DOJ and how her family gave money back that she had given them earlier on as gift. She contrasts this benefit of support vs. the big banks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRgT9dPJXU

Apparition
21st November 2010, 12:33 PM
He did promise to deliver hope and change, folks. :oo-->

midnight rambler
21st November 2010, 01:01 PM
<yawn> You were expecting the puppet to say something else other than backing up the creeping policy?

StackerKen
21st November 2010, 01:25 PM
Obama and his wife and kids should have to go though those security screening methods before they board air force one.

Silver Shield
21st November 2010, 01:42 PM
This TSA thing is a great way to wake sheeple up.

Thank you Chertoff.

When this collapse and awakening is over those that profited off of the subjugation of the American people will have some explaining to do.

StackerKen
21st November 2010, 01:49 PM
This TSA thing is a great way to wake sheeple up.


I think agree...lots of folks are talking about it. I hope it helps wake folks up

sunshine05
21st November 2010, 03:02 PM
At what point do the airline company's step forward (after more declining sales) and tell Washington that the new "safety" measures are too much and has caused many to avoid flying?

I guess we won't know until the end of summer 2011 after seeing how many people decide a "staycation" is better than loading the kids up on a plane to go to Disney.


That's just it though. Most Americans are accepting this because it's making them feel "safer". It's so frustrating. My husband just returned from a Scuba trip and said the airport (Atlanta) was slammed last night. If this doesn't stop people, the TSA can do anything they want to the sheeple and they will take it. They will probably push in line to be the first to hop on the FEMA trains. :conf:

mrnhtbr2232
21st November 2010, 07:14 PM
When this collapse and awakening is over those that profited off of the subjugation of the American people will have some explaining to do.

But they won't be explaining it to us, they'll be explaining it to their wives smiling over a martini. Once these people make their fortunes, they cruise and insulate themselves away from ordinary people. We'll be so busy taking care of the low-hanging fruit the big fish will get to the safety of hired guns before we get to them. Still, if it even reaches the point where they start to run it represents a good sign.