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General of Darkness
27th November 2010, 06:42 PM
This guy has to have at least 70K+ into this car, and the JBL is by far the best Cobra on the market.

http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4salefolder/konizer-JBL/home.html

Fortyone
27th November 2010, 06:46 PM
Its not a real Cobra, in chassis or engine, so why bother?Nothing real special one couldnt make himself, i dont want to piss on your parade but cmon, "One of the rarest....REPLICAS" ?

General of Darkness
27th November 2010, 06:51 PM
Its not a real Cobra, in chassis or engine, so why bother?Nothing real special one couldnt make himself, i dont want to piss on your parade but cmon, "One of the rarest....REPLICAS" ?


It's because the chassis is for all intense purposes a street legal race car and will smoke my 911. 41 if you're into cars you should read up on this one. http://www.jblmotor.com/car1.htm

http://www.jblmotor.com/images/ch47.jpg

solid
27th November 2010, 06:55 PM
General, are you sure you want to spend 70K on a car?

What about renting one? I've always thought it would be fun to rent the fastest car I could find, and see how fast I could cross I80 through Nevada. I'd wager I could do it in under 4 hours with the right car.

skid
27th November 2010, 06:56 PM
When I was younger I always wanted a Cobra. The good kits are much better built than the originals.The original big blocks were the fastest, but handled poorly. The small blocks were overall much better cars, and with today's technology can duplicate or exceed big block power. That one looks very nice...

I went over to the dark side and bought/built/(and eventually sold) a 500hp/500torque Vette, where I earned my nickname skid ;D

zap
27th November 2010, 06:56 PM
If you can pay cash for for it, go for it !

Might make you think a little if you hand him cash. A car is only a ride, point A to point B .

General of Darkness
27th November 2010, 06:58 PM
General, are you sure you want to spend 70K on a car?

What about renting one? I've always thought it would be fun to rent the fastest car I could find, and see how fast I could cross I80 through Nevada. I'd wager I could do it in under 4 hours with the right car.


I agree, but he's asking $43K OBO. People are hurting, and those of us that were paying attention are going to be able to take advantage of that. I know that sounds shitty, but that's life.

solid
27th November 2010, 07:04 PM
I agree, but he's asking $43K OBO. People are hurting, and those of us that were paying attention are going to be able to take advantage of that. I know that sounds sh*tty, but that's life.


That is a great deal. It's a nice car!

Keep some FRN's aside for tickets, factor that into the cost of the car. :)

hoarder
27th November 2010, 07:09 PM
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What does it have to do with this thread? See: "idolators". ;D

General of Darkness
27th November 2010, 07:11 PM
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What does it have to do with this thread? See: "idolators". ;D


Jerk. ;D

vacuum
27th November 2010, 07:16 PM
General, are you sure you want to spend 70K on a car?

What about renting one? I've always thought it would be fun to rent the fastest car I could find, and see how fast I could cross I80 through Nevada. I'd wager I could do it in under 4 hours with the right car.


I agree, but he's asking $43K OBO. People are hurting, and those of us that were paying attention are going to be able to take advantage of that. I know that sounds sh*tty, but that's life.

Hm, so it only costs 1500 oz of silver - about 100 lbs.

Glass
27th November 2010, 08:27 PM
That's a very nice car. A great example and worth probably about twice that amount. I'd love one of those. I'd like a "little" rocket. I looked at these and also something based on the Lotus 7 which is also a great design. Either way to kit it up yourself you're looking into the $70K's. This guys done all the hard work plus it's at the high end of tech with that chassis.

There could probably be a bit more chrome in the engine bay but still. What's missing off the front?

Hang on, I've got to wipe my chin. Drooling.

vacuum
27th November 2010, 08:33 PM
So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?

General of Darkness
27th November 2010, 08:34 PM
So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?


Well you can buy the cars turn key, but you pay for that. This car was actually built by a company for the owner.

zap
27th November 2010, 09:07 PM
So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?


Well you can buy the cars turn key, but you pay for that. This car was actually built by a company for the owner.


General , I am sure I am older then you.... If you have 40,000 extra, you got your house paid for, preps in order, gold and silver stashed, and alot of extra cash..... then do it !

Sorry I bet I sound like your mother , have all you ducks in a row before you go blowing it .....on FAST it will only last a little while then you'll kick yourself for being so stupid.

JMHO

LuckyStrike
27th November 2010, 10:02 PM
I know a guy with a cobra replica with (can't remember exact displacement) an almost 600 CI motor. The thing is a freakin beast. I'd much rather have a cobra replica than a 911, but then again I've never really cared for porcshes. Just my .02

I imagine this cobra even with the meager 331 CI is still a kick in the pants to drive.

You have any motorcycles GoD? Price to performance they can't be beat ;)

k-os
27th November 2010, 10:04 PM
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What does it have to do with this thread? See: "idolators". ;D


I am reading the Protocols right now, and what comes to mind is Protocol #4 - Materialism Replace Religion.

Zap, I don't think that you are older than General of Darkness, but you sure are smarter! At least financially speaking. Sorry, GoD, but you know it's true.

platinumdude
27th November 2010, 10:13 PM
So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?


Well you can buy the cars turn key, but you pay for that. This car was actually built by a company for the owner.


General , I am sure I am older then you.... If you have 40,000 extra, you got your house paid for, preps in order, gold and silver stashed, and alot of extra cash..... then do it !

Sorry I bet I sound like your mother , have all you ducks in a row before you go blowing it .....on FAST it will only last a little while then you'll kick yourself for being so stupid.

JMHO


Hey, I have all of that. But I'm not a big spender.

LuckyStrike
27th November 2010, 10:28 PM
So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?


$

Essentially you are paying for the name, which isn't worth it IMO. Even though these are "kit cars" they aren't like Lambo Fieros

zusn
27th November 2010, 10:30 PM
Its not a real Cobra, in chassis or engine, so why bother?Nothing real special one couldnt make himself, The "real ones" are all in museums and private collections. High quality kit manufacturers have greatly improved on the design of the originals. They allow people to build, drive and enjoy a car they love.


i dont want to piss on your parade but cmon, "One of the rarest....REPLICAS" ?Yeah, lame selling point. I think the biggest offense is that it's registered as a 1966 Sh@lby. The registration should be the year it was completed and the kit manufacturer. (i.e. 2007 JBL)


So explain to me, why are these cars made from kits as opposed to buying it pre-made like most vehicles?If the company were to sell the cars pre-made, then there would be the liability on them in regards to it's performance and safety. (think vehicle recalls, etc) Selling a kit takes away that responsibility.


I imagine this cobra even with the meager 331 CI is still a kick in the pants to drive.There's nothing meager about that engine. I'd love to see it do a few pulls on the dyno. Most people regret exceeding the 300-350 horsepower mark on these cars. Traction becomes a serious issue. They are fast as hell with a stock 5 liter.

General, have you checked out Factory Five Racing? www.factoryfive.com Get their product pack sent to you. You'll get some cool pictures to hang up plus their DVD. The DVD covers their chassis design and company history, an interesting story. Also, go to www.ffcars.com/forums. Great group of people who are more than happy to take you for a ride in their car.

LuckyStrike
27th November 2010, 10:31 PM
A car is only a ride, point A to point B .


I agree that people can get carried away on their vehicles and end up sinking a lot of $$ into them. I understand from a pure practicality GSUS perspective there isn't much room for a Cobra in most peoples bunkers. With that being said in my experience most people who espouse the point A to point B argument have never experienced a thrilling vehicle.



“Speed provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.”

Aldous Huxley

zusn
27th November 2010, 10:32 PM
Even though these are "kit cars" they aren't like Lambo Fieros
I saw one of those in person YEARS ago! It's amazing how shocking things permanently burn themselves into memory.

LuckyStrike
27th November 2010, 10:35 PM
I imagine this cobra even with the meager 331 CI is still a kick in the pants to drive.There's nothing meager about that engine. I'd love to see it do a few pulls on the dyno. Most people regret exceeding the 300-350 horsepower mark on these cars. Traction becomes a serious issue. They are fast as hell with a stock 5 liter.



That is very true, the guy referenced in my OP says he can break the tires loose on the interstate since the car is so light and it puts down over 500HP. The tires on the car are massive too.

Regardless I'd rather have the power, trickier to launch well but too much is better than not enough.

Just my .02

zusn
27th November 2010, 10:39 PM
I imagine this cobra even with the meager 331 CI is still a kick in the pants to drive.There's nothing meager about that engine. I'd love to see it do a few pulls on the dyno. Most people regret exceeding the 300-350 horsepower mark on these cars. Traction becomes a serious issue. They are fast as hell with a stock 5 liter.



That is very true, the guy referenced in my OP says he can break the tires loose on the interstate since the car is so light and it puts down over 500HP. The tires on the car are massive too.

Regardless I'd rather have the power, trickier to launch well but too much is better than not enough.

Just my .02
Yeah, it gets to the point where one can't contain the power anymore. It is nice to have the extra power on tap for those who are willing to accept the responsibility :)

midnight rambler
27th November 2010, 11:07 PM
As long as we're dreaming, how about a built Formula car in street trim

http://media.motortopia.com/files/6422/vehicle/46497330bec2a/oldcars_029.jpg

sporting the engine in this car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVkY8oA3RlE

DualCarbon
28th November 2010, 01:56 AM
Jay Leno Garage Cobra replica video.

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/at-the-garage/sports-cars/ac-cobra-427-replica/

mick silver
28th November 2010, 05:08 AM
how about leaving the state your in ... the best thing you could do for you an your family . yes i know cash talk right now . there alot you could buy as far as a home an land in the state i am in

gunDriller
28th November 2010, 05:54 AM
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What does it have to do with this thread? See: "idolators". ;D


is that the radiator you use when the car is idling ?

Libertytree
28th November 2010, 06:02 AM
General, somehow I pictured you with something more along these lines. Sorry, couldn't grab a pic for posting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170570631146&viewitem=#v4-37

General of Darkness
28th November 2010, 06:43 AM
General, somehow I pictured you with something more along these lines. Sorry, couldn't grab a pic for posting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170570631146&viewitem=#v4-37


Actually I was considering a bobbed duece

http://www.rivercitycamo.com/Bobber1.jpg

And just for the record folks, I said this is a DREAM car of mine. It has absolutely NO value other than thrill.

Bullion_Bob
28th November 2010, 06:56 AM
If it's a kit car, do they build in the parts and electronics for making it emissions legal?

I'd bet that thing has straight pipes, and the afr is on the wet side.

That could be a PITA.

mick silver
28th November 2010, 07:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYfd4muY1Wk&feature=related

LuckyStrike
28th November 2010, 09:42 AM
It has absolutely NO value other than thrill.


I'm sure it delivers that in spades.

You never know this car might be ideal SHTF, they announce on the radio that a nuclear power plant is about to meltdown which do you wanna be heading out of town in a Cobra or a truck with a top speed of 50?

Camaros seem to be good SHTF vehicles too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSDC3cHoZs

gunDriller
28th November 2010, 02:19 PM
once i drove an MG that someone had dropped a 327 Chevy V8 into.

talk about neck-snapping whip-cracking acceleration :o


one of the nicest sports cars i've driven was a Datsun 2000 was that was rebuilt by a retired aircraft mechanic. that generation of sports cars (1970) was a lot more like driving a motorcycle, zero delay between the time you step on the gas and the acceleration.

willie pete
28th November 2010, 02:36 PM
General, somehow I pictured you with something more along these lines. Sorry, couldn't grab a pic for posting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170570631146&viewitem=#v4-37


Now that's what you need for those sheetrock runs to Lowe's or HomoDepot :D

chad
28th November 2010, 03:08 PM
when i buy this, and it gets up to 88 mph, you're going to see some serious shit.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ68FUrdqqqMhHvqxZn4xbIERVVsHm5r WEmp3B_gHjBQAZvGK7t0g

Bullion_Bob
28th November 2010, 06:23 PM
Here's to hoping the Koenigsegg CCR becomes a bargain at some point...(fingers crossed) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEFx-fFZyII

Olmstein
28th November 2010, 06:43 PM
My dream car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Cadillac-Convertible-/110617890819?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c1571003

MNeagle
29th November 2010, 10:03 AM
Somewhat off topic, but may be of interest:

Ten of Tomorrow’s Collectibles Today


big picture link (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/tomorrows-collectibles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Pict ure%29)



(about cars)

midnight rambler
29th November 2010, 10:11 AM
Somewhat off topic, but may be of interest:

Ten of Tomorrow’s Collectibles Today


big picture link (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/tomorrows-collectibles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Pict ure%29)



(about cars)


Those are all throw-away cars, in as little as 10 years (or less) there will be no support to keep those cars on the road. Only museums will be 'collecting' them.

THIS is one example of a collectible car.

http://www.remarkablecars.com/for-sale/data/6776/90200-1972-chevy-truck-21474.jpg

MNeagle
29th November 2010, 10:16 AM
Agreed, MR, agreed.

I'm guessing EMP-proof as well?

buyingsilvers
29th November 2010, 11:05 AM
General, are you sure you want to spend 70K on a car?

What about renting one? I've always thought it would be fun to rent the fastest car I could find, and see how fast I could cross I80 through Nevada. I'd wager I could do it in under 4 hours with the right car.


I agree, but he's asking $43K OBO. People are hurting, and those of us that were paying attention are going to be able to take advantage of that. I know that sounds sh*tty, but that's life.


People are hurting in this economy. I regularly see all types of vehicles going for below "fair market" pricing. If he's asking $43k, you'll likely be able to get it even cheaper.

If you have a stable income and disposable cash, I think you should just buy it. Being thrifty and all that is good, but you aren't taking any of it with you to the next life.

LuckyStrike
29th November 2010, 07:15 PM
Somewhat off topic, but may be of interest:

Ten of Tomorrow’s Collectibles Today


big picture link (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/tomorrows-collectibles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Pict ure%29)



(about cars)


Those are all throw-away cars, in as little as 10 years (or less) there will be no support to keep those cars on the road. Only museums will be 'collecting' them.

THIS is one example of a collectible car.

http://www.remarkablecars.com/for-sale/data/6776/90200-1972-chevy-truck-21474.jpg


I'll take the top 2 for sure, too bad I'm boycotting GM. It's unfortunate since GM has the best Camaro and Vette of all time out now, they still can't turn a profit.

hoarder
29th November 2010, 07:32 PM
how about leaving the state your in ... the best thing you could do for you an your family . yes i know cash talk right now . there alot you could buy as far as a home an land in the state i am in
Bingo!

Priority wake up call!!

Imagine living in a hellhole like mexifornia and wasting money on shiny objects instead of getting the F out.

MNeagle
30th November 2010, 07:33 AM
Great point.

O.K., all you GS-USers in CA! Get out now!

solid
30th November 2010, 07:43 AM
Great point.

O.K., all you GS-USers in CA! Get out now!


The thing is some good folks need to stay behind and try and rebuild this place.

CA does have a lot of problems, but it really is a beautiful state. You can be at the beach, then 3 hours from some of the most majestic mountains in our nation. We have rain forests here, huge redwood groves, we have deserts, the best fertile farm land, and some of the best vineyards in the world.

The state needs fixin', for sure. But our whole nation does too.

Good point though on getting out of the cities in CA, for sure. The cities will be a major collapse zone here.

MNeagle
30th November 2010, 07:46 AM
More great points Solid. CA is indeed a treasure state. Beautiful & majestic beyond compare.

hoarder
30th November 2010, 07:51 AM
All the good things about californicate are not human. The inhabitants are the problem.
Heck, Mexico is beatiful if you can imagine Mexico without Mexicans. But since I can't get the Mexicans in Mexico to move south, I don't want to live in Mexico. :P

k-os
30th November 2010, 04:36 PM
Somewhat off topic, but may be of interest:

Ten of Tomorrow’s Collectibles Today


big picture link (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/tomorrows-collectibles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Pict ure%29)



(about cars)


Those are all throw-away cars, in as little as 10 years (or less) there will be no support to keep those cars on the road. Only museums will be 'collecting' them.

THIS is one example of a collectible car.

http://www.remarkablecars.com/for-sale/data/6776/90200-1972-chevy-truck-21474.jpg


I completely agree. Whenever The Mystery Tour ends and I need to buy a car, it will be a 1940's to early 1970's car/truck with no computer!

LuckyStrike
30th November 2010, 05:38 PM
The thing is some good folks need to stay behind and try and rebuild this place.




I think it would be more prudent to move back in and rebuild the place. There is nothing they will be able to do until it hits absolute rock bottom,government is dissolved and the crypts, bloods and ms13 all kill each other.

Then I would say move back in a pick up the pieces, until then it's way more likely that you will be caught in the economic or literal crossfire.

midnight rambler
30th November 2010, 06:02 PM
Agreed, MR, agreed.

I'm guessing EMP-proof as well?


EMP resistant, not necessarily EMP proof, the condenser may get fried on a points type ignition. If you want EMP proof, get a Dodge Cummins 12 valve turbo diesel or Ford 7.3 diesel with a manual transmission.