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TheNocturnalEgyptian
30th November 2010, 11:31 AM
The U.S. army is to begin using a futuristic rifle that fires radio-controlled 'smart' bullets in Afghanistan for the first time, it has emerged.

The XM25 rifle uses bullets that are programmed to explode when they have travelled a set distance, allowing enemies to be targeted no matter where they are hiding.

The rifle also has a range of 2,300 feet making it possible to hit targets which are well out of the reach of conventional rifles.

The XM25 is being developed specially for the U.S. army and will be deployed with troops from later this month, it was revealed today.

The rifle's gunsight uses a laser rangefinder to determine the exact distance to the obstruction, after which the soldier can add or subtract up to 3 metres from that distance to enable the bullets to clear the barrier and explode above or beside the target.

Soldiers will be able to use them to target snipers hidden in trenches rather than calling in air strikes.

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The 25-millimetre round contains a chip that receives a radio signal from the gunsight as to the precise distance to the target.

Lt. Col. Christopher Lehner, project manager for the system, described the weapon as a ‘game-changer’ that other nations will try and copy.

He expects the Army to buy 12,500 of the XM25 rifles this year, enough for every member of the infantry and special forces.

Lehner told FoxNews: ‘With this weapon system, we take away cover from [enemy targets] forever.

‘Tactics are going to have to be rewritten. The only thing we can see [enemies] being able to do is run away.’

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The XM25 appears the perfect weapon for street-to-street fighting that troops in Afghanistan have to engage in, with enemy fighters hiding behind walls and only breaking cover to fire occasionally.

The weapon's laser finder would work out how far away the enemy was and then the U.S. soldier would add one metre using a button near the trigger. When fired, the explosive round would carry exactly one metre past the wall and explode with the force of a hand grenade above the Taliban fighter.

The army's project manager for new weapons, Douglas Tamilio, said: ''This is the first leap-ahead technology for troops that we've been able to develop and deploy.'

A patent granted to the bullet's maker, Alliant Techsystems, reveals that the chip can calculate how far it has travelled.

Mr Tamilio said: 'You could shoot a Javelin missile, and it would cost £43,000. These rounds will end up costing £15.50 apiece. They're relatively cheap.

Lehner added: ‘This is a game-changer. The enemy has learned to get cover, for hundreds if not thousands of years.

‘Well, they can't do that anymore. We're taking that cover from them and there's only two outcomes: We're going to get you behind that cover or force you to flee.’

The rifle will initially use high-explosive rounds, but its makers say that it might later use versions with smaller explosive charges that aim to stun rather than kill.

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chad
30th November 2010, 11:34 AM
i would love to have that for deer hunting. you can't hide behind brush piles anymore mr. whitetail!

mick silver
30th November 2010, 11:46 AM
dam this country have way to much money . there no way you can fight stuff like this . when will this shit stop

midnight rambler
30th November 2010, 11:49 AM
The main point to having a sandbox to play in with dirt poor 3rd worlders is so terrorists can perfect their weapons and tactics.

Ares
30th November 2010, 11:49 AM
This WILL get used against the Americans who decide to resist government tyranny mark my words.

Gaillo
30th November 2010, 02:53 PM
The rifle also has a range of 2,300 feet making it possible to hit targets which are well out of the reach of conventional rifles.

Bullshit. 2300 feet = 767 yards. Any of my rifles, except for .22LR, are EASILY capable of hitting accurately at that range. I routinely practice 800 yard hits on a 12" steel target with my bolt-action .223 Rem. Tikka (using 69 grain Sierra matching bullets). I can hit the plate with BORING regularity when wind conditions are still, and still get a fair percentage of hits in light-medium breezes. My larger caliber guns will do the same, and are easier to make hits with since they have less "drop" and wind deflection due to higher B.C. bullets.

I think they are referring to .223 Rem. AR-15 type semi-auto rifles when they talk of "conventional" rifles, but even then it IS possible with the right rifle "tuning" and ammunition to attain accuracy at that distance with an AR.

SilverMagnet
30th November 2010, 04:52 PM
Sounds very sophisticated until the battery runs out.

chad
30th November 2010, 04:59 PM
Sounds very sophisticated until the battery runs out.


or there's an emp.

my ak-47, ar-15, etc. will still work fine, however.

Hillbilly
30th November 2010, 05:40 PM
That thing is pretty wild. I saw a video a while back and the Navy has a similar gun in something like the 5 inch range that would be awesome for taking care of Somali Pirates ;D

Glass
30th November 2010, 07:26 PM
ok so you need to jam the radio signal then?

SilverMagnet
30th November 2010, 07:37 PM
Sounds very sophisticated until the battery runs out.


or there's an emp.

my ak-47, ar-15, etc. will still work fine, however.


Smart man. In fierce combat the less reliance on electronic parts, the better.

skid
30th November 2010, 09:47 PM
Could some smart person induce a signal to have the ammunition blow up before it is fired? If a weapon was captured and reversed engineered that might happen...

PatColo
30th November 2010, 10:30 PM
Reminds me of TSA buying these silly radiation-spewing nekkid body scanners from Chertoff at $150K/ea, which don't work as well as $8K bomb sniffer dog (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/real-airport-security-lying-dogs-or-useful-sniffer-dogs-(brasscheck-tv)/msg146272/#msg146272)s.

deliberate waste, wealth redistribution etc. War is a racket (incl. the warrenterra hoax).

vacuum
30th November 2010, 10:36 PM
Could some smart person induce a signal to have the ammunition blow up before it is fired? If a weapon was captured and reversed engineered that might happen...

My guess is that it is a very short range wireless communication that just tells the bullet what distance to explode at before its fired. After its fired it is likely autonomous - either an accelerometer keeps track of the distance or a timer. There is likely a safe minimum distance it can explode at.

gunDriller
1st December 2010, 06:21 AM
http://www.atk.com/capabilities_defense/cs_ms_w_fp_IAWS.asp

/\ the ATK product info page for that rifle


http://www.atk.com/CorporateOverview/bl_armament_advweapons.asp

/\ the ATK division to work for if you want to learn more about the XM25.


https://careers.atk.com/joblist.html?erpc=alljobs

/\ current ATK job-listings


the ATK Advanced Weapons division makes the XM-25.

SLV^GLD
1st December 2010, 07:09 AM
The payload is a versatile platform and will easily incorporate designs for tear gas, flechettes, nets or whatever other means the domestic forces wish to apply to dissidents.

Glass
1st December 2010, 07:18 AM
Could some smart person induce a signal to have the ammunition blow up before it is fired? If a weapon was captured and reversed engineered that might happen...

My guess is that it is a very short range wireless communication that just tells the bullet what distance to explode at before its fired. After its fired it is likely autonomous - either an accelerometer keeps track of the distance or a timer. There is likely a safe minimum distance it can explode at.


Would it be wireless because the casing is brass and does not facilitate electrical current? In theory you could program it before it was dispatched if you can get a current into the cartridge.

So based on the info at the links gunDriller posted it is pre programmed before firing. That means really, once it is fired it is going to where it was set to go, hence the manufacturer saying they think the only defence to it is not to be in the location it was aimed at after it is fired = run away.

You would need to some how disrupt it's distance determining capabilities, either to detonate early or not at all. So confuse it to detonate as it is being fired or convince it the distance to travel is beyond it's actual range, causing it to run out of steam before it reaches detonation distance.

If it's wireless communications capable then vacuum is probably right, its very short range. Maybe it's bluetooth 1.0? We could hope it's Apple Air?

Twisted Titan
1st December 2010, 08:47 AM
Tactics are going to have to be rewritten. The only thing we can see [enemies] being able to do is run away.’


That's strange.

The only thing I see is The Ressitence Fighter adapting and overcoming this challenge just like all the others.

The Person that Fights for their Family and to Preserve their way life doesnt fear Death. Yet the person who fights at the Behest of Shadowy figures for a few tokens or has been conscripted certainley is.



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