Different Explainations for six-pointed star

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Let's start a thread about it. I don't have a lot of information on this subject so anybody more knowing than I is free to contribute.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Moroccan_4_Falus_Coin_(AH_1290).jpg/800px-Moroccan_4_Falus_Coin_(AH_1290).jpg

The "Seal of Solomon"
Also sometimes called the Star of David.....But there is a lot more to this shape that meets the eye. It exists also in Sumerian records, the earliest of which pre-date the Hebrews as a religion totally. So it's not decidedly a Jewish symbol, just used by them. It wasn't created or pinoneered by them. Also related to the planet Saturn?

http://www.yeatsvision.com/Images/Kingsfordstar.jpg




The rock carving in the following picture is older than the entire Hebrew religion
http://www.pagannews.com/images/sumerian_artifact.jpg

It's up there on the wall. 6,000+ years old.


So it's older than the jews. Let's just get right to the meat. What's it mean, what's it represent?

[sirgonzo420]

One of many meanings:


"As above, so below"

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Okay so my guess is related to the Merkaba. The six sided star is so boring, so flat. What happens when you spin it?

When you spin a six pointed star, it makes a three dimensional shape called the MerKaba.

http://www.celestialights.com/Merkaba_Star_Crystals/Merkaba_Labradorite/LabradoriteMerkaba.jpg

Anyone who studies astral travel or meditation has heard the rumors regarding the Merkaba. It is said to be the two basic energy fields that surround you during astral travel.

Some quick googling reveals thousands of pictures of meditators sitting inside a merkaba and traveling the stars:

http://www.cosmiclight.com/oflightandlife/images/merkaba.jpg

I personally believe that keeping this shape as a 2D symbol and never presenting it as a 3D symbol is an attempt to undermime whatever esoteric power it may offer.


The word Merkaba - Hebrew meaning 'Chariot' or general meaning "to ride an animal, in a chariot"

I know you guys aren't down with kabbalistic stuff but I'm not talking about that. I believe this concept pre-dates all that.

[Awoke]

That star is used in Babylonian and Assyrian theogony, Egyptian theogony, Brahmainism, Zoroastrianism, Ophitism and more. It is broken apart sometimes and represented by a hendekaglyph, which uses three trianges, which IMO represents this thing you call the Merkaba. (Because the Merkaba is 3-dimensional)

However the hendekaglyph is assembed and makes the hexagram for the synagog of satan.

I will admit that I am no expert on the subject, but I am trying to learn. For details regarding what I posted, read the book "Father of Lies" by Warren Weston. I am reading it now, so I can't speak on it in depth until I finish it. It's advanced and esoteric, and new to me. Hard to read.
There is a bunch of stuff in this book that I have never heard of, and can't even pronounce.


But for me, none of it matters, whether the symbol pre-dates the current jews or not.
The bottom line is, it is not a symbol of God the Father and Creator, or the Son or the Holy Spirit.

It is a symbol of something else, and therefore pagan.


EDIT to add that you said "The rock carving is older than the jews, they didn't creat it, etc"

What is your point? They use it.

[DMac]

The concept does predate that. The rabbit hole gets really deep when bringing up the Saturnalian connection.

http://news.discovery.com/space/2007/03/27/saturn-hex-278x225.jpg

"Originally discovered and last observed by a spacecraft during NASA's Voyager flybys of the early 1980's, the new views of this polar hexagon taken in late 2006 prove that this is an unusually long-lived feature on Saturn.
NASA/JPL/University of Arizona"

There are some that think that much earlier in the earth's ages that the layout of our solar system was much different than it is today. Saturn was viewable from earth.

Personally, I am not ready to accept that view, but I do think the symbol is a remnant of one of humanities prior runs at civilization.

[PatColo]

and while we're on the subject, what's the explanation for this?! Fox News:

Satellite Image Shows Star of David on Iranian Airport Building's Roof (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/30/report-star-david-spotted-iranian-airport/#ixzz16tSRDh00)

http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/World/397/224/starofdavid640.JPG

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/30/report-star-david-spotted-iranian-airport/#ixzz16tSRDh00

I looked it up after CNBC did a short segment on the story this morning. Figured it wasn't worth a new thread.

[Horn]

That's the "upside down" Star of David.

Sorry :)

Weird, huh?

[DMac]

and while we're on the subject, what's the explanation for this?! Fox News:

Satellite Image Shows Star of David on Iranian Airport Building's Roof (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/30/report-star-david-spotted-iranian-airport/#ixzz16tSRDh00)

http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/World/397/224/starofdavid640.JPG

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/30/report-star-david-spotted-iranian-airport/#ixzz16tSRDh00

I looked it up after CNBC did a short segment on the story this morning. Figured it wasn't worth a new thread.


That's pretty funny Pat

[Ash_Williams]

Maybe it has to do with Sumerian gods with 6 fingers? Statues of gods and giants around the world often have 6 fingers.

I looked at it for a while and I see it as 1, 2, 3. That's just me though.

[General of Darkness]

Actually it means Pentagram +1, so it's really evil.

http://www.whale.to/b/pentagram2.jpg

[ShortJohnSilver]

It is called the Star of Remphan (also called Chiun), or Star of Ashtoreth (Astarte), and both the Old and New Testaments condemn it.

Amos chapter 5:


21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. 22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. 23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. 24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream. 25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? 26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Saint Stephen, who was stoned to death and is the first martyr for Christ, quotes this section:

Acts chapter 7:


42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? 43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

[StreetsOfGold]

It is called the Star of Remphan (also called Chiun), or Star of Ashtoreth (Astarte), and both the Old and New Testaments condemn it.

Amos chapter 5:


21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. 22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. 23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. 24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream. 25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? 26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Saint Stephen, who was stoned to death and is the first martyr for Christ, quotes this section:

Acts chapter 7:


42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? 43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.





I was just thinking of this. Nothing like the Bible to clear up all kinds of (dis)informaton

[Ponce]

The real Jews do celebrate the star of David, for one reason or other, but.........the same way the the real Jews have their seven candle holder the Zionist came up with the so called star of David as their enblem.

How can the star of David be related to religion when it is used on government papers, airplanes, bombs, helicopters, missiles and so on???

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

It is called the Star of Remphan (also called Chiun), or Star of Ashtoreth (Astarte), and both the Old and New Testaments condemn it.

Amos chapter 5:


21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. 22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. 23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. 24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream. 25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? 26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Saint Stephen, who was stoned to death and is the first martyr for Christ, quotes this section:

Acts chapter 7:


42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? 43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.





Very interesting, I just verified these and all the names check out...thank you for the information

Found around the world:

http://christmaslie.webs.com/the%20star%20of%20your%20god%20Remphan.gif

[chad]

It is called the Star of Remphan (also called Chiun), or Star of Ashtoreth (Astarte), and both the Old and New Testaments condemn it.

Amos chapter 5:


21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. 22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. 23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. 24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream. 25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? 26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Saint Stephen, who was stoned to death and is the first martyr for Christ, quotes this section:

Acts chapter 7:


42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? 43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.





I was just thinking of this. Nothing like the Bible to clear up all kinds of (dis)informaton


that just references a star. it says nowhere it is the 6 pointed star.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Here is a source for the Jewish version of the star: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/star.html

See the images above for confirmation coming at it the other direction - images of Baal-beck, image from India, etc.

The "Star of Solomon" and the other stars look pretty identical to me.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

I read a book on the Rothschilds that claimed the Red Shield Mayer Amschel hung above his door was the star of david symbol. It was not a Jewish symbol until the Rothschilds made it so.

[Silver Shield]

Amschel Bauer had a pawn and coin shop in Frankfurt Germany.

The sign he had outside was a red shield with a black 6 pointed star.

The Seal of Solomon is for King Solomon that had untold wealth as he turned away from God.

Amschel studied the power of money and debt and passed it onto his 5 sons.

Amschel Bauer changed his name to Rothschild which is German for Red Shield.

The Rothschilds went on to dominate the world with wars an debt.

They created modern day Israel and used the 6 pointed star as representation of the Jews.

Many devout Jews see this symbol as a satanic symbol.

Many others see this symbol of the Zionists as the Synagogue of Satan of the book of Revelations who claim they are Jews but they are not.

The antithesis to the Rothschild is the Silver Shield.

[ShortJohnSilver]

The antithesis to the Rothschild is the Silver Shield.





Are you making a joke about the power of physical silver, or do you mean a literal image you can post?

[Silver Shield]

The antithesis to the Rothschild is the Silver Shield.





Are you making a joke about the power of physical silver, or do you mean a literal image you can post?


No joke.

I feel Silver is the Achilles Heal of everything the Rothschilds and the like have created.

When I chose my avatar I wanted to be the opposite of the Rothschilds (Red Shield) and Silver Shield was my answer.

Silver also has the nice feeling of being my shield in tough economic times.

[Awoke]

Just found a review on this book:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/Six-Pointed_Star.gif




The book's thesis is a valid and little known one that needs more widespread explanation, however. The Magen David/Star of David/Seal of Solomon/Hexagram is NOT of Jewish origin, but instead finds its origin in pagan idolatry towards Ashtoreth which was adopted by Israel's king Solomon in defiance of God's commandments. The six pointed star was used in Gnostic and even Islamic artwork and symbolism before it came to use among Jews. It was adopted by Cabalists who got their beliefs from the earlier heretic Gnostics who believed the God of the Old Testament was evil and worshipped Lucifer. Issac Luria was a Cabalist who popularized it in the sixteenth century and it was used on a coat of arms by the banking family of Rothschild. Further on down the line the hexagram was utilized as the symbol for Zionism and became the emblem of the Israeli flag.

Much of the controversy surrounds the star's meaning. Jews claim that it was actually used by king David in the Bible, but in fact it may have been named after other Davids in history who were popular Jewish leaders. Also proposed is that the triangle pointing up represents God and the triangle pointing downward represents man. The symbolism is, however, a Cabalistic representation of the opposing forces (like the Eastern Yin Yang) that involves sexual congress and the loss of difference between male and female. It can also be a simplification of the more complex symbol that represents the Zodiac. The hexagram has the code for the Beast of Revelation in it--6 sides clockwise, 6 counter-clockwise, and 6 sides that form a hexagon in the middle of the figue. As a note, the author points out that the number six represents imperfection in the Bible, as opposed to seven which represents the fullness of God and His creation.

[MAGNES]

I gotta go, Awoke hit the nail on the head.

The symbol may have existed prior used by others
but the occult which is very old steals and burrows
symbols and corrupts them, this is a common theme
MO of theirs.

Who are the gnostic/agnostic etc,
and why do masons use it too ?

[StackerKen]

The pomegranate is significant in Jewish custom. Tradition holds that a pomegranate has 613 seeds to represent the 613 commandments in the Torah. The design of the pomegranate was woven into the high priest's robes, and brass representations were part of the Temple's pillars. It is mentioned six times in the Song of Solomon.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4222151456_e8954f6434_z.jpg?zz=1

heard this one?

Could there be a connection between the Star of David and the pomegranate?


We have previously discussed the secret encrypted in the Star of David, the geometric form, almost mystical, which connects the ancient times of Israel's famous kings with the modern era.

Now it is time to ponder whether the pomegranate, which is created by nature, could have been a source of inspiration for the creation of the well-known symbol - the Star of David.

According to ancient Jewish tradition, the pomegranate has 613 seeds. We know there are 613 commandments in the Pentateuch ("TarYag Mitzvot"). In numerology the words "TarYag" equal 613 (Taf = 400, Reish = 200, Yod = 10, Gimel = 3).

Continuing this reasoning, the number 613 broken down is 6+1+3, which equals 10. That brings us to the conclusion 1+0 equals 1.

More here

http://ezinearticles.com/?Star-of-David---Inspired-by-the-Pomegranate&id=3125349

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Good Thinking Ken, in the ancient world the pomegranite was everywhere, the Persians even used a silver pomegranite on the pommel of a sword or spear to symbolize service to the king and a golden pomegranite on the pommel of a staff/spear to symbolize authority


A lot of numerology also comes from nature,

Many sacred numbers,

3, 7, 9, 10, 13

Come from the number of leaves on certain plants

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

It was everywhere, in the pommel:

http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/arabic-silver-sword/toledo-silver-sword.jpg

The Silver Sword of Toledo

[Serpo]

The real Jews do celebrate the star of David, for one reason or other, but.........the same way the the real Jews have their seven candle holder the Zionist came up with the so called star of David as their enblem.

How can the star of David be related to religion when it is used on government papers, airplanes, bombs, helicopters, missiles and so on???


Maybe bombs are their religion

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/images/merkaba.gif

[gunDriller]

How can the star of David be related to religion when it is used on government papers, airplanes, bombs, helicopters, missiles and so on???


because it's a religion of Ritual Human Sacrifice - and has been for 2000 years ... or more.

Blood Passover
by Ariel Toaff
http://bloodpassover.com/index1.htm