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Ponce
5th December 2010, 04:19 PM
Sounds familiar......."If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce


The scramble for physical metal intensifies.

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December 4, 2010 – The scramble for physical gold and silver is intensifying. People increasingly want to own the real thing, and not some paper substitute, all of which come with counterparty risk. This conclusion is apparent from the following two charts of gold and silver forwards, which are based on data made available by the London Bullion Market Association through November 24th (the most recent data available).





Because gold is money, gold almost always trades in contango, meaning the future price is higher than the spot price. The percentage difference between gold’s spot and future price is gold’s interest rate, so in this regard, gold is not different from other moneys, except gold’s interest rate is lower than those of national currencies. Interest rates are a reflection of risk, and because gold’s purchasing power cannot be debased by central bank or government actions, the risk of losing purchasing power when holding gold is low. So gold is rewarded by the market with a low interest rate.

If the future price is lower than spot, which is called backwardation, you can sell your metal in the spot market, invest the dollars you receive to earn interest, and then buy your metal back in the future at a lower price and profit the difference. But there is another important factor to consider outside the math of this formula.

If you sell your physical metal in the spot market and at the same time agree with someone to buy it back at a future date, you are now holding someone’s paper promise instead of physical metal. In other words, you have counterparty risk, which of course is avoided when you own a tangible asset like physical gold or physical silver.

Normally, few people worry about counterparty risk. So bullion dealers and other institutions dealing in the precious metals watch for opportunities to profit from backwardation, with the result that gold rarely, if ever, trades in backwardation, which explains why the above chart is so extraordinary.

Gold for 1-month and 3-months forward has been mainly in backwardation for more than one year. Even more exceptional is that gold 6-months forward has been in backwardation since November 5th. To show how rare this event is, I checked the LBMA database, which goes back to 1989. There is not one instance of 6-month forward gold being in backwardation, which nearly confirms my own experience. I’ve been trading the precious metals since the 1970s, and I can’t recall any time before this year when 6-months forward gold was in backwardation. The current and continuing backwardation is truly incredible.

Note too the clear downtrend in 12-month forward gold which is approaching backwardation, which is similar to the downtrends for other forward periods. These downtrends make clear that the demand for physical gold is intensifying.

The picture is even starker in silver. Not only are its forwards also in clear downtrends, silver 6-months forward has been continuously in backwardation since June 2nd and mainly in backwardation for more than one year. What does it all mean?

In a word, it is bullish. The only way the increasing demand for physical metal can be met is with higher prices. The higher price will at some level entice people to sell their metal and hold a national currency instead, as I explained in my previous article, The Precious Metals Power Higher.

Some skeptics may argue that gold is in backwardation because dollar interest rates are so low, which does have an element of truth to it. This argument though ignores that dollar rates have been low since shortly after the Lehman collapse, which is months before the backwardation began to appear. Also when the Greenspan-led Fed lowered dollar interest rates after 9-11 to near-zero levels, no backwardation appeared.

Skeptics might also argue that there is no backwardation apparent from Comex settlement prices. Aside from the fact that Comex recently changed the method to determine settlement prices from a market-driven basis to instead allow a manual override, which now makes backwardation on the posted Comex settlement prices virtually impossible, one has to first recognize that Comex is first and foremost a market for paper-gold and paper-silver. Therefore, a piece of paper can promise virtually anything, without regard to the underlying reality of how physical metal is actually trading. In other words, Comex shows March futures in contango, when they should in reality be in backwardation. Thus, if you are buying March silver or April gold futures, you are overpaying. This overpayment is no doubt going into the pockets of those banks that are perennially short and use their size to control the paper market. They can, after all, always conjure up whatever paper they want out of thin air, which of course they cannot do with physical metal.

Any way you look at it, the backwardation in gold and silver is a truly rare event and an exceptionally bullish one too. So be prepared for an upside explosion in the price of both precious metals as the scramble for physical metal intensifies even further as a result of people increasingly choosing to hold a safe-haven tangible asset instead of paper.


http://www.fgmr.com/scramble-for-physical-metal-intensifies.html

FunnyMoney
5th December 2010, 10:48 PM
I expect this trend to continue as well. There's a finite supply of metal. With paper products outnumbering the physical by orders of magnitude, counter-party risk becomes a reality. When the short paper position is unable to meet the obligation due to a lack of supply in the underlying commodity there will be no tricks left to play.

The last time the comex had to handle an explosion in paper prices (Hunt Bros.) it wasn't due to a shortage in supply but to heavy leverage on the buy side. That is something they can deal with. But a shortage in supply is different. The comex can tell the market, "no buying, only selling", but during a shortage, sellers won't continue to sell and will simply continue to pull away from the market as they have no excess which they're willing to part with. The comex would be simply cutting its own throat.

There is no free-lunch and there's no way to manipulate your way out of a supply shortage. When something runs out, it runs out. Fifty new giant silver mines can't be conjured up at the waive of a wand like fiat money can, and unless the govt plans on bailing out all the shorts with massive sums of paper currency, the paper marketing of precious metals will simply implode while the real metal itself will rocket up to its true and realistic values.

Silver Shield
6th December 2010, 01:33 AM
I love the silver porn...

mick silver
6th December 2010, 07:45 AM
why would anyone want to own gold an silver when you could have paper .

madfranks
6th December 2010, 09:23 AM
the paper marketing of precious metals will simply implode while the real metal itself will rocket up to its true and realistic values.


I have a friend who's 100% into paper gold, and that's what I've been trying to tell him for years now. He tells me he can order delivery at any time, so it's no problem. He holds none of it, but he's ecstatic about $1400 gold, even though when the paper market collapses he'll have no gold at all.

Ponce
6th December 2010, 09:29 AM
Lol Franks........I have a closed friend whos mother has about !/4 of a mill in a bank and everytime her son tells her to take the money out she tells him "But, but, they are real nice, everytime that I go to see them they give me cookies and coffee" hahahahahaahahahahahahah.......up till now she has lost about half of her money (fiat)............she's abot 89 and when she dies and her son goes to the bank instead of money they wil give him cookies and coffee.....because that's all that they will have left.

mamboni
6th December 2010, 10:03 AM
Silver American Eagles now selling for ~$35 on Ebay, bitchez!!!

woodman
6th December 2010, 10:49 AM
Silver American Eagles now selling for ~$35 on Ebay, bitchez!!!




Not too long ago that would have covered a doctor visit.

mamboni
6th December 2010, 11:14 AM
Silver American Eagles now selling for ~$35 on Ebay, bitchez!!!




Not too long ago that would have covered a doctor visit.


Maybe this doctor, maybe:

mamboni
6th December 2010, 11:58 AM
My bad!!! SAEs selling for $40 on Ebay!!!! SWEET!!!!!

Awoke
6th December 2010, 01:02 PM
I love the silver porn...


http://www.livingstatues.com/images/SilverWomanTable.jpg

chad
6th December 2010, 01:05 PM
this is seriously cramping my mission to acquire a coffee can full of peace dollars by xmas. :soap

woodman
6th December 2010, 01:27 PM
Silver American Eagles now selling for ~$35 on Ebay, bitchez!!!




Not too long ago that would have covered a doctor visit.


Maybe this doctor, maybe:


Funny! Although the last visit to my doctor, he was looking quite shamanistic and was spouting latin like an incantation. Don't dismiss those primitives, they can cast a mighty mojo.

Mouse
6th December 2010, 01:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdH6C0Px3H8