The Future of Running Non-PC Websites

[Shami-Amourae]

Everyone in the media is talking about Wikileaks. Originally the website had the address wikileaks.org, and due to the First Amendment loving tyranny called the United States Government, websites with the typical .com, .net, .org, .us, and so forth are no longer safe from being shut down since free speech is for pussies apparently. You speak out against the government, you may have your website shut down, and possible worse repercussions (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=suicided).

I know this first hand being the owner of a very controversial website that several district attorney generals tried to shut down in my teenage years. I'm worried about this website and websites like infowars.com. We need to have this discussion and figure out what to do when the tyrants turn their direction on us, and believe me it's coming, and you know it!

Domains like .ch seem good since the Swiss government usually is more protective of free speech. Are there others? Where do we go when SHTF for the web?

[chad]

the entire internet can be shutdown in about 5 minutes.

regardless.

[Shami-Amourae]

the entire internet can be shutdown in about 5 minutes.

regardless.


How? The Internet is not centralized? You mean doing something to ICANN? I'm advocating the Internet get away from such organizations who no longer believe the Internet should be the last bastion of freedom for humanity.

[chad]

just order everyone to erase dns tables. no more internet. unless you know that your favourite site is 64.57.210.240, and you know how to connect to it once your browser page goes away (because dns tables have been deleted), you're screwed.

i mean, maybe people have a notebook with all of this written down, are proficient in DOS pinging, etc., but i doubt it.

[Ares]

just order everyone to erase dns tables. no more internet. unless you know that your favourite site is 64.57.210.240, and you know how to connect to it once your browser page goes away (because dns tables have been deleted), you're screwed.

i mean, maybe people have a notebook with all of this written down, are proficient in DOS pinging, etc., but i doubt it.


Even if they tried that, there's so many PRIVATE dns servers that it would be impossible for them to crash them all. Granted the root dns servers are in the U.S., but there are so many more through out the world. Even yours truely is hosting a DNS server on my cable connection.

[Ponce]

the entire internet can be shutdown in about 5 minutes.

regardless.


As your cell phone and tv......and next the radio.

[chad]

just unplug the local routers and switches then. most regional areas are controlled by localized + geographical switching locations. there's so many angles to take it down, really.

[Dogman]

the entire internet can be shutdown in about 5 minutes.

regardless.


As your cell phone and tv......and next the radio.


Except ham radio, they have to find you to shut you down! Hard to hit a moving target

They can shut the net down in less than one heart beat. cable providers can hit a key and all cable users , by by. Same for sat providers one key shuts all down. Same for dial up.

Who here remembers to bad old days of dial up bbs before the net? They can shut them down if the number ever gets out.

Radio is the time proven way to get info in and out, but still slow and hi-speed data , forget it.

IMO

Edit: you can setup a local wifi net, but national and international not a chance unless you have sat access.

If the ptb ever do try to shut down the net. Not a hell of a lot of options, that would be hard to track.

[mrnhtbr2232]

A news website I frequent recently changed from Topix to Facebook. Their editorial on the matter was essentially too many people were not being civil. So they went from 100's of posts for each story down to about 2. Forcing people to register on and use Facebook has accomplished their desire to sterilize the comments section. But the comments were the best part of the site, and their move has resulted in a precipitous drop in truth. No more pointing out irregularities with stories. No more pointing out special interests and blow back for our communities. No more telling it like it is about the police, the bankers, and the minorities. Nothing. Now, only two weeks after the change, the site has been gutted. I suspect this is the soft play that will evolve as the reason du jour - civil discussion that stays positive or else. Just like crying racist or anti-Semite, now you have to be happy and shallow or you'll be ostracized for daring to offer contrary or factual information for others.

[Book]

...and believe me it's coming, and you know it!



http://cbskrth.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tsa3.jpg?w=383&h=272

It already came. All done but the crying now. Patriot Act doomed us. Each day brings another example. If they are sticking their hand down your skivvies IN PUBLIC at the airport they most certainly are already quietly reading all your emails and listening to all your phone calls. They automatically have our IP address and GPS coordinates...lol.

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