Illegal to use rain water.....video.

[Ponce]

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=13385

[7th trump]

Here in Iowa you can get grants to pay for landscaping that deters rain run off going into the street.
Iowa actually encourages you to catch the run off from your roofs to water gardens and flower beds. Heck thats what you get the grants for...........flower beds and burms.

[Ponce]

The more of God's water that you use the less money that the power to be will be able to charge you for the water that they give you.

[Dogman]

The more of God's water that you use the less money that the power to be will be able to charge you for the water that they give you.


The water they sell you, plus the sewer rate that is tied to you water usage. The more water you use the higher your sewer bill is, even if the water does not go down a drain.

[StackerKen]

Its an old law in that state....and it sounds like they gave that car dealer the states water rights so he could continue and they said they wouldn't bother with the home owners that wanted to collect rain water.....So....
not really a problem...is it?

[Ponce]

The way that I see it........if you use rain water for irrigation it would then goes back into the soil to where it was going to start with........no?

For the car wash it would then be mixed with chemicals so that the owner should pay something to the state to clean up the chemicals.

[willie pete]

the state can do anything they want, I don't see how the law would apply to rain water. The water official in explaining the rationale said "obviously if you use the water up stream it won't be there to use for the person downstream" ..but we're not talking about a flowing body of water, and probably most flowing bodies of water like creeks,rivers and streams are fed from melting snow or larger bodies of water...not rain water

[Joe King]

the state can do anything they want, I don't see how the law would apply to rain water. The water official in explaining the rationale said "obviously if you use the water up stream it won't be there to use for the person downstream" ..but we're not talking about a flowing body of water, and probably most flowing bodies of water like creeks,rivers and streams are fed from melting snow or larger bodies of water...not rain water
Is there a difference between rain water and snow water?
Doesn't either one mostly all fall out of the sky?

The reason it's "illegal" to capture rain water in those States is because the water Rights were assigned 100+ years ago before all those cities and towns popped up.

If it were you who owned those Rights, wouldn't you want them protected too?

Remember, it's possible to "own" land without owning mineral Rights below or water Rights above it.
i.e. if you knew that all you bought was the surface Rights, what's there to complain about?

[Spectrism]

If they are claiming ownership of the rain and snow, it is time to charge them:

1) Nuisance fee for rain when you did not order it
2) Handling fee
3) Storage fee
4) Hazardous / corrosive material dispersing fee (you can drown in it and it rusts metals)
5) Errosion prevention fee


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[Serpo]

Nobody seems to be getting it......the people making these laws are GOD

[mick silver]

i have 2 8000 gallon tanks bury in my yard for rain water that comes off the house just for the garden . this year was the dry and i am glad we have the tanks

[StackerKen]

If they are claiming ownership of the rain and snow, it is time to charge them:

1) Nuisance fee for rain when you did not order it
2) Handling fee
3) Storage fee
4) Hazardous / corrosive material dispersing fee (you can drown in it and it rusts metals)
5) Errosion prevention fee


LOL

I don't think anyone is claiming to own the rain.....Just the rights to it. :)

[Joe King]

If they are claiming ownership of the rain and snow, it is time to charge them:

1) Nuisance fee for rain when you did not order it
2) Handling fee
3) Storage fee
4) Hazardous / corrosive material dispersing fee (you can drown in it and it rusts metals)
5) Errosion prevention fee
Who are you going to send the bill to?

Does anyone know who it is that actually owns the right to all the water that falls on those particular geographical areas in question?

Is it possibly the People themselves via their duly constituted government?
i.e. do you send the bill to yourself, perhaps?

Or are there smoke filled backrooms somewhere with ultra-rich fat-cats lounging around and laughing with each other about how they're screwing the peons out of their own rainfall?



:D

[willie pete]

the state can do anything they want, I don't see how the law would apply to rain water. The water official in explaining the rationale said "obviously if you use the water up stream it won't be there to use for the person downstream" ..but we're not talking about a flowing body of water, and probably most flowing bodies of water like creeks,rivers and streams are fed from melting snow or larger bodies of water...not rain water
Is there a difference between rain water and snow water?
Doesn't either one mostly all fall out of the sky?

The reason it's "illegal" to capture rain water in those States is because the water Rights were assigned 100+ years ago before all those cities and towns popped up.

If it were you who owned those Rights, wouldn't you want them protected too?

Remember, it's possible to "own" land without owning mineral Rights below or water Rights above it.
i.e. if you knew that all you bought was the surface Rights, what's there to complain about?





Yea, I guess they both source from the atmosphere, I see a difference though, the snowfall then melt is fairly regular, rainfall isn't ...and if it were me who owned all those rights, I think by now I'd have a hard time enforcing the collection of rain water on someone elses property...I think IF you had enough money; you could fight it in court and win..I could see that maybe you might have an argument for the rain water that fell on your property, but not someone elses property..how could you ever control the rain?

[Joe King]

Don't look at it as rain or snow, but rather precipitation that falls on a particular watershed, that the Rights of which were owned before you or I were ever alive.
...and no one needs to "control" the precipitation either. Just let it flow where it may, and has, for Millenia. i.e. downstream.