Ringing ears (Tinnitus)

[Dogman]

I have worked in some very high noise ares in my life, jet engines, Boiler maker, machine shops, shooting as a kid and what were earmuffs? etc. Been into a bunch of high noise jobs all my life.

Into my 60's now and have lived with it for years, sometimes it is not there, but most times it is , I have no doubt there is damage, but over all my hearing using both ears is still good,!

A few years ago I had a full band , tempo, that varied with a bass and almost a drumbeat, any thing that can be done about it, mostly I can live with it, and I do know it is linked with blood pressure.

The thing is the ringing sometimes is not there and that makes me wonder? what I may do other than dieing to keep it away!


?

[Dogman]

I did a heavy metal detox and it solved my problem.


Canning lady!!

I quit listening to heavy metal bands years ago! ;D

Tho sometimes I still like to crank up the volume now and then.



:oo--> Do know what you mean, do not think that is my problem!

High noise most of my working life is.

[ShortJohnSilver]

I have found certain foods seem to aggravate it. High sodium like a salty soup for instance.

[gunDriller]

The thing is the ringing sometimes is not there and that makes me wonder? what I may do other than dieing to keep it away!?


what effect does marijuana have on it ?

a chronic condition like that can be a major drag.

i think also ashtanga yoga (or equivalent vigorous physical yoga) would help. it is extremely relaxing so even if it doesn't cause the tinnitus to attenuate, it is a good & pleasure-able (fun) way of treating stress that comes with medical conditions.

"Yoga & Marijuana" - how's that for a prescription. only in California. :o

[banjo]

I suffer from tinnitus and I've yet to figure out a pattern or a rhyme or reason for it. Sure would love to have a way to make it stop.

[Dogman]

I have found certain foods seem to aggravate it. High sodium like a salty soup for instance.


Yes I have found that one, and have cut most of all voluntary salt out of my diet, salt relates to blood pressure.
The only time any more that I do any salt, even in cooking, (the food has plenty already) is in high heat and sweating , I will dose myself with salt then and only to try and replace what is lost.

I know or at least am fairly sure nothing can be done. Just wondering what I may do that I am not doing!

Sometimes it comes on that it can not be ignored, Maybe by my 70's if I live another 10 years ,I will end up like all of the males of my fathers side of the family needed hearing aides , but also all were shooters, all there life's, nra high power service rifle.(across the course) I am also a shooter, but not like the others were, just a bunch of high noise jobs.

[Dogman]

The thing is the ringing sometimes is not there and that makes me wonder? what I may do other than dieing to keep it away!?


what effect does marijuana have on it ?

a chronic condition like that can be a major drag.

i think also ashtanga yoga (or equivalent vigorous physical yoga) would help. it is extremely relaxing so even if it doesn't cause the tinnitus to attenuate, it is a good & pleasure-able (fun) way of treating stress that comes with medical conditions.

"Yoga & Marijuana" - how's that for a prescription. only in California. :o


Dam good question!

Have not because of piss tests done any for the last 15 years. But I suspect that if high I would not give a shit because everything else was just too dam cool. and the ringing would be the last of my worry s.

;D

[Dogman]

I suffer from tinnitus and I've yet to figure out a pattern or a rhyme or reason for it. Sure would love to have a way to make it stop.


Yea brother..


It does seem to come and go. Blood pressure is the only link I can for sure say, but that is not all of it!

[woodman]

I've had major tintitus for the last 20 years. worked a lot of loud machinery when young. I just try to ignore it but that is not always possible. I read somewhere of a cure that involved some kind of supplement. I think it was on an article linked by the rense site. I just don't remember.

[Dogman]

I've had major tintitus for the last 20 years. worked a lot of loud machinery when young. I just try to ignore it but that is not always possible. I read somewhere of a cure that involved some kind of supplement. I think it was on an article linked by the rense site. I just don't remember.


Same here on the time line... I do wonder if there is something that can help..


for us that have it there is not such thing as true silence.

[woodman]

I've had major tintitus for the last 20 years. worked a lot of loud machinery when young. I just try to ignore it but that is not always possible. I read somewhere of a cure that involved some kind of supplement. I think it was on an article linked by the rense site. I just don't remember.


Same here on the time line... I do wonder if there is something that can help..


for us that have it there is not such thing as true silence.

Yes, it would be a fine thing to not have it. True silence would be a grander thing than the finest music. How peaceful it would be not to have this constant loud ringing! somehow it helps a little to know that others out there put up with it too. It is nice to know that you are understood by someone somewhere. It is a real nuisance though.

[General of Darkness]

I believe there's only ONE cure for that.

http://fleasanddogsinbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/girl-with-gun-in-mouth.jpg

[Dogman]

I believe there's only ONE cure for that.

http://fleasanddogsinbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/girl-with-gun-in-mouth.jpg


Boy!! go auto stab yourself......sh*t head.. ;D


:lol

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional

Professional version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yJQf6uukY

Also there are protocols on www.curezone.org to do it yourself at home.

"Anyone ever put silver in their ears for tinnitus?" http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=738045

"Tinnitus prevention and curing" http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=345

"Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Support Forum" http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399


If you don't have Tinnitus but were grossed out by that video of cleaning that I posted, there are ways to clean your ears at home too. I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out. Read up on it.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic.

As far as I have read that 'ear candling' thing does not work, although I personally haven't tried it.

[Dogman]

You can get your ears cleaned too

Professional version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yJQf6uukY

Also there are protocols on www.curezone.org to do it yourself at home. Look up the 'ear' subforum.

I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic.

As far as I have read that ear candling thing does not work, although I personally don't have experience with that.


Not a ear wax thing, but you do make a dam good point..

The far majority of Americans that read this thread and I also understand that a good percentage of members here are not American .

When I was stationed in Ubon in Thailand during my war, I did my duty but also was counter culture as much as I could be. So hair cuts , the military and myself were at odds on the subject. The normal thing was to stuff all hair under the hat and trim the rest to mil spec.

But

There is a point something else has to be done...and going to any barber on base was not an option,.





There are two things I want to relate too...


That you will never see in a western (usa) barber shop!


In Ubon, Can not remember the why, but I went to a Thai barber off base. He had a hole in the wall shop on a busy down town street and none of his equipment was line powered, all hand powered ,

Not a dam thing electric! That was a first for me.!

The was wearing the normal sarong that most wore , not shirt , with blue tattoos all over himself, and looked older than dirt.



He cut my hair, with me looking at myself with a hand held mirror, and all was good, I at the time knew some of the language (I immersed myself , good people ,country) and then he finished the hair cut.

What I did not know!

In a Thai hair cut not only the hair on the top of the head was cut!

That guy brought out some very thin and strange looking knifes. you could see what they were knifes

First off nose hairs, trimmed!

Then ear hairs!

Now you would have to be sitting there not expecting this.. this tattooed half naked person that looked older than god. sticking a sharp knife in your ear, not just one, but both!!

Pucker factor to the moon! But not to show myself as a wimp, also I was a furlong using the local service.
Well what could I say??


Now the good ??? or best part...

The barber after he was assured that I did approve of his work on my head. (It was great) started rubbing my back and messing with my neck, working muscles and all I can say is stuff...

Felt wonderful..



Then he grabbed my head and twisted it sharply and every bone in my backbone popped!

Then he did it in the other direction and again the same!!

I could not at first get out of the chair..I was water , I had not a nerve or bone or muscle in my body.

It was great!! Went back to him , for the rest of my time in country...


Ear wax , maybe for some , but they would have to be mighty ignorant of their ears.

[Horn]

The thing is the ringing sometimes is not there and that makes me wonder? what I may do other than dieing to keep it away!


?


I can sort of dampen the ringing in mine, when I think about it.

Is only in the left ear, & is from the guns, and horns.

[zap]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional

Professional version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yJQf6uukY

Also there are protocols on www.curezone.org to do it yourself at home.

"Anyone ever put silver in their ears for tinnitus?" http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=738045

"Tinnitus prevention and curing" http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=345

"Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Support Forum" http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399


If you don't have Tinnitus but were grossed out by that video of cleaning that I posted, there are ways to clean your ears at home too. I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out. Read up on it.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic.

As far as I have read that 'ear candling' thing does not work, although I personally haven't tried it.


That was way cool, I liked the video thanks.

[Horn]

I think the computer hard drives (when ringing) irritate it further, or increase it.

[Dogman]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional

Professional version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yJQf6uukY

Also there are protocols on www.curezone.org to do it yourself at home.

"Anyone ever put silver in their ears for tinnitus?" http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=738045

"Tinnitus prevention and curing" http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=345

"Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Support Forum" http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399


If you don't have Tinnitus but were grossed out by that video of cleaning that I posted, there are ways to clean your ears at home too. I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out. Read up on it.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic.

As far as I have read that 'ear candling' thing does not work, although I personally haven't tried it.


Good vid Egyptian!

Yes the crap that can build up in our ears is amazing..

But for most that have lived in high noise environments the ringing is not wax or crap ..

It is just something we have to live with , and most people who can not hear what we hear
do not under stand!

[k-os]

Too much aspirin can cause tinnitus.

[Dogman]

http://www.drchristophers.com/extracts-oils/ear-nerve-extract.html




Thank you ,

there is another thing also...And it is very rare but is is like the volume is turned up. some sounds are amplified ?? It has only happened a few times but ,,wow.!!

The few times that has happened, many years ago, 5-6? ear plugs were needed to keep things from being painful.

This is one subject that not much can be done.. And it is on a individual basic.

[Sparky]

I was at an ENT specialist this year, and she said there have been no breakthroughs in this area.

For those of you who do not have it, it largely becomes a psychological thing. It can be isolating; it helps simply knowing that other people also have to deal with it.

I've heard adds for new products (e.g. Quietus), but have not found information on them or tried them. I'm skeptical.

[hoarder]

WHAT???

Lots of interesting info here.

Have a link to the heavy metals detox, ImaCannin?

I've had tinitis since about 1984. I worked as a mechanic on offshore platforms back then. Very noisy environment.

Caffiene really increases the volume. I avoid it.

[Dogman]

I was at an ENT specialist this year, and she said there have been no breakthroughs in this area.

For those of you who do not have it, it largely becomes a psychological thing. It can be isolating; it helps simply knowing that other people also have to deal with it.

I've heard adds for new products (e.g. Quietus), but have not found information on them or tried them. I'm skeptical.


It is real as I am typing this reply..

It has driven some to kill them selfs, and just a bother for the rest..

I know what it is and just will go with the flow, really have not a choice..

The interface between ear and brain, shit , even the ear they think they understand, but the key word is think,
it is not fully understood the mechanics of the ear and the thing that happens in our brains,
I will say this from my own experiments and observations , the human brain is an amazing thing.

not at all fully understood or will be in several life times.

[Cebu_4_2]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional

Professional version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yJQf6uukY

Also there are protocols on www.curezone.org to do it yourself at home.

"Anyone ever put silver in their ears for tinnitus?" http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=738045

"Tinnitus prevention and curing" http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=345

"Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Support Forum" http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399


If you don't have Tinnitus but were grossed out by that video of cleaning that I posted, there are ways to clean your ears at home too. I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out. Read up on it.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic.

As far as I have read that 'ear candling' thing does not work, although I personally haven't tried it.


holy fvcking gross me out man! WoW!

[Sparky]

I was at an ENT specialist this year, and she said there have been no breakthroughs in this area.

For those of you who do not have it, it largely becomes a psychological thing. It can be isolating; it helps simply knowing that other people also have to deal with it.

I've heard adds for new products (e.g. Quietus), but have not found information on them or tried them. I'm skeptical.


It is real as I am typing this reply..

It has driven some to kill them selfs, and just a bother for the rest..

I know what it is and just will go with the flow, really have not a choice..

The interface between ear and brain, sh*t , even the ear they think they understand, but the key word is think,
it is not fully understood the mechanics of the ear and the thing that happens in our brains,
I will say this from my own experiments and observations , the human brain is an amazing thing.

not at all fully understood or will be in several life times.




Dogman, did you think I was saying it isn't real? Just the opposite, it is very real. What I meant is that the physical disturbance can lead to psychological distress. As you said, it leads some people to kill themselves.

[Dogman]

I was at an ENT specialist this year, and she said there have been no breakthroughs in this area.

For those of you who do not have it, it largely becomes a psychological thing. It can be isolating; it helps simply knowing that other people also have to deal with it.

I've heard adds for new products (e.g. Quietus), but have not found information on them or tried them. I'm skeptical.


It is real as I am typing this reply..

It has driven some to kill them selfs, and just a bother for the rest..

I know what it is and just will go with the flow, really have not a choice..

The interface between ear and brain, sh*t , even the ear they think they understand, but the key word is think,
it is not fully understood the mechanics of the ear and the thing that happens in our brains,
I will say this from my own experiments and observations , the human brain is an amazing thing.

not at all fully understood or will be in several life times.




Dogman, did you think I was saying it isn't real? Just the opposite, it is very real. What I meant is that the physical disturbance can lead to psychological distress. As you said, it leads some people to kill themselves.


Sorry I know it is real, I suffer 24/7/365 from it..

It is the physics of it that baffles me

[Heimdhal]

Ive got it too, and its getting worse. THanks for the ideas guys.

Ive also yet to find any rhyme or reason to it. It just comes and goes when it pleases and even weed doesnt seem to help too much, but that doesnt mean Im going to give up on it! ;D

[Hermie]

I have found that the herb Gingko Biloba helps.
It is used to help with memory and other things, but it also reduces tinnitus.
Definitely has had a good effect on me.
Good luck.

[vacuum]

Ive got it too, and its getting worse. THanks for the ideas guys.

Ive also yet to find any rhyme or reason to it. It just comes and goes when it pleases and even weed doesnt seem to help too much, but that doesnt mean Im going to give up on it! ;D

Have you also been in noisy environments for prolonged periods?

[Heimdhal]

Ive got it too, and its getting worse. THanks for the ideas guys.

Ive also yet to find any rhyme or reason to it. It just comes and goes when it pleases and even weed doesnt seem to help too much, but that doesnt mean Im going to give up on it! ;D

Have you also been in noisy environments for prolonged periods?


Yes and I did alot of dumb things when I was younger, not to mention being around a couple of negilient discharges of firearms (one indoors in a very small room) from complete morons.

[Horn]

Think its just from gettin old, listen to this.

If you can hear it thru the ringin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB8FrYPGXGk

[Dogman]

Ive got it too, and its getting worse. THanks for the ideas guys.

Ive also yet to find any rhyme or reason to it. It just comes and goes when it pleases and even weed doesnt seem to help too much, but that doesnt mean Im going to give up on it! ;D

Have you also been in noisy environments for prolonged periods?


Yes and I did alot of dumb things when I was younger, not to mention being around a couple of negilient discharges of firearms (one indoors in a very small room) from complete morons.


Friend the best way from one that has had it , and others can for sure chime in is to embrace it, because you dam sure can not do a thing about it.

It can go totally mental.. if you let it, it can control you or you can just live with it, and sometimes have fun.

Will enplane later , how to do..

It is still the shits.. but one we have to live with...

Thank you all for chimming in I knew I was not alone, and now for sure I know I am not..


Thanks all.

[solid]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional


What a cool video, I found myself cheering when they got rid of it at the end..

Never had Tinnitus, but I did have a moth fly into my ear once. Crawled right in, right to the eardrum. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. It was alive, and sounded like a helicopter inside my head, the vibrations of it trying moving around,fluttering.

Nobody knew what to do, so I gave up and went right to the ER. Was damn near going crazy waiting, and everyone thought I was on drugs. Finally a nurse took a look, her face went white, and she ran right out of the room to get a doctor. When the doctor killed it, I could have hugged the guy.

To this day, anything that flies near my ear, I go bonkers with my arms flailing about. At least it's good for a laugh for those who happen to see it. :)

[zap]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional


What a cool video, I found myself cheering when they got rid of it at the end..

Never had Tinnitus, but I did have a moth fly into my ear once. Crawled right in, right to the eardrum. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. It was alive, and sounded like a helicopter inside my head, the vibrations of it trying moving around,fluttering.

Nobody knew what to do, so I gave up and went right to the ER. Was damn near going crazy waiting, and everyone thought I was on drugs. Finally a nurse took a look, her face went white, and she ran right out of the room to get a doctor. When the doctor killed it, I could have hugged the guy.

To this day, anything that flies near my ear, I go bonkers with my arms flailing about. At least it's good for a laugh for those who happen to see it. :)



Glad you got rid of that moth, I am kinda paranoid about something getting in my ear at night , so when I sleep on my side I always cover my ear with my hair, gotta keep the bugs out :D

[Book]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional...If you don't have Tinnitus but were grossed out by that video of cleaning that I posted, there are ways to clean your ears at home too. I think it's as simple as putting a drop of vegetable oil in the ear everyday for a few weeks. Then irrigating with warm water. The oil softens it up and the water melts it and helps it come out. Read up on it.

100 Years ago proper ear care is something your barber would have helped you with. Today little things like this build up in a big way.

I have read stories of some people with extreme ear problems, sometimes ringing, sometimes pain, they do these protocols and a plug of wax falls out of their ear, size of a marble, or more. Imagine how nice it would be to suddenly be free of that. So cathartic...



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Awesome video and very educational post TheNocturnalEgyptian. Thank you.

[hoarder]

If I had an insect in my ear I'd pour some vinegar of hydrogen peroxide in it.

[Joe King]

You can get your ears cleaned too, by a professional


What a cool video, I found myself cheering when they got rid of it at the end..

Never had Tinnitus, but I did have a moth fly into my ear once. Crawled right in, right to the eardrum. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. It was alive, and sounded like a helicopter inside my head, the vibrations of it trying moving around,fluttering.

Nobody knew what to do, so I gave up and went right to the ER. Was damn near going crazy waiting, and everyone thought I was on drugs. Finally a nurse took a look, her face went white, and she ran right out of the room to get a doctor. When the doctor killed it, I could have hugged the guy.

To this day, anything that flies near my ear, I go bonkers with my arms flailing about. At least it's good for a laugh for those who happen to see it. :)


If you thought that video was cool, how cool would it be to make your own?

Get an Ear Scope TV Fiber optic earwax cleaner (http://www.japantrendshop.com/ear-scope-tv-fiber-optic-earwax-cleaner-p-148.html) and you can.

It can also be used in, well, other places too. :o

Only $395US
Cheap!

[G2Rad]

Earwax, or cerumen, is formed in the outer third of the ear canal.

It has several purposes.

First, it is an agent of cleaning the ear canal. Assisted by chewing and jaw motion, old earwax is constantly being transported from the ear canal to the ear opening where it usually dries, flakes, is washed out, and falls out. The wax is not like candle wax. It is instead a filamentous wax and this gives it a high electrostatic charge. This charge attracts the dust and dirt that gets into the auditory canal. The skin in this canal is unusual in that it grows sideways. This aids in this conveyer-belt-like movement of the wax and dirt out of the ear.

Earwax also acts as an insect repellant. Something about it is repulsive to insects and this keeps them out of that protective cavity. Earwax also lubricates the ear canal so that it stays flexible. This is important for it does flex when we grin, or move our jaw or head in certain ways. Cerumen also has anti-bacterial properties, meaning, it helps keep infection out of the ear. When infection occurs, extra earwax is produced and this may be a cause of ear canal plugging.

Since earwax is produced in the other third of the ear canal and moves outward, it is important we don’t force it deeper into the ear, especially with sharp objects that might damage the eardrum. Our smallest finger is still too large to reach into its ¼ inch diameter or one inch length to damage the eardrum.

[gunDriller]

Earwax, or cerumen, is formed in the outer third of the ear canal.

It has several purposes.

can you make a candle from it ? :o

[solid]

If you thought that video was cool, how cool would it be to make your own?

Get an Ear Scope TV Fiber optic earwax cleaner (http://www.japantrendshop.com/ear-scope-tv-fiber-optic-earwax-cleaner-p-148.html) and you can.

It can also be used in, well, other places too. :o

Only $395US
Cheap!



For $395, does it come with a big breasted kinky red-headed gal?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if these showed up at the airports, under the TSA's iron rule.

TSA Agent: "Mr. King, you've successfully passed through the scanner. However, we think you are hiding drugs in your nose, ear, and ass. Please follow Olga over there, to the body cavity probe. Yes, she's the beastly woman, with the rubber gloves, and the evil grin. Enjoy your flight today, Mr. King." ;D

[PatColo]

not to get too conspiratorial, but there are some who believe HAARP can cause tinnitus among other physical & emotional effects.

http://www.google.com/search?q=HAARP+tinnitus

[Dogman]

not to get too conspiratorial, but there are some who believe HAARP can cause tinnitus among other physical & emotional effects.

http://www.google.com/search?q=HAARP+tinnitus




You= :comp



:lol

[Neuro]

A chiropractor may be able to help you with your tinnitus. Probably in more than 50% of cases of chronic tinnitus there is some injury to the inner ears due to excess sound or infection, causing the tinnitus, and in those cases chiropractic can't do much, but I have about 25-30% success rate in people with chronic tinnitus, the chiropractor should especially focus his attention to the upper neck for tinnitus. If you have neck ache/ headache/ dizziness as well, it is more likely your tinnitus is cervicogenic (coming from the neck), if you also have substantial hearing loss it is more likely the tinnitus comes from inner ear injury...

[Horn]

but I have about 25-30% success rate in people with chronic tinnitus

When & where are you available for my adjustment?

[JDRock]

as a rock drummer i have managed to avoid this by wearing hearing protection....i use noise canx headphones or earplugs....it sure must suck ...is it all the time, or does it come and go??

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tJGS2WKidY

[hoarder]

is it all the time, or does it come and go??
It's all the time. When there is background noise, like a radio or an engine running, it garbles all conversation. If I'm sitting in someone's living room, everyone is talking and the TV is on, I can't join the conversation because I can't hear what they're saying. I leaned to dislike parties and bars because I got tired of making people repeat themselves several times and then faking like I understood them.

[woodman]

is it all the time, or does it come and go??
It's all the time. When there is background noise, like a radio or an engine running, it garbles all conversation. If I'm sitting in someone's living room, everyone is talking and the TV is on, I can't join the conversation because I can't hear what they're saying. I leaned to dislike parties and bars because I got tired of making people repeat themselves several times and then faking like I understood them.


My experience exactly. It amazes me how others can hear conversations that I cannot. Other noises like bass and dogs barking seem to be even more aggravating to me than others without tinnitus.

[Neuro]

but I have about 25-30% success rate in people with chronic tinnitus

When & where are you available for my adjustment?
If you come to Istanbul I will come and pick you up at the airport personally....

[Horn]

but I have about 25-30% success rate in people with chronic tinnitus

When & where are you available for my adjustment?
If you come to Istanbul I will come and pick you up at the airport personally....


How will I know its you for sure, will you be wearing rubber gloves holding a Horn signal?

[Neuro]

but I have about 25-30% success rate in people with chronic tinnitus

When & where are you available for my adjustment?
If you come to Istanbul I will come and pick you up at the airport personally....


How will I know its you for sure, will you be wearing rubber gloves holding a Horn signal?
Why rubber gloves? Are you coming?

[vacuum]

'Rebooting' brain could ease ringing in ears
Jan 12 02:46 PM US/Eastern

Scientists have found a way to ease chronic ringing in the ears, known as tinnitus, by stimulating a neck nerve and playing sounds to reboot the brain, according to research published Wednesday.

There is currently no cure for tinnitus, which can range from annoying to debilitating and affects as many as 23 million adults in the United States, including one in 10 seniors and 40 percent of military veterans.

For Gloria Chepko, 66, who has suffered from tinnitus since she was four years old, the sound she describes as "like crickets... but also bell-like," gets worse when she is tired.

"It's awful," she said. "Sometimes it is very loud, and it will get loud if I am under stress or if I have been going for a very long time and I am fatigued," she said.

"If my mind is tired and I sit down I will only hear this sound."

For some people, such as military veterans who are left with hearing damage after exposure to loud blasts and gunfire, the noise -- which could also sound like roaring, whooshing or clicking -- interferes with their ability to lead a normal life.

The US Veterans Administration spends one billion dollars per year on disability payments related to tinnitus, the most common service-related ailment in soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, industry experts say.

Scientists believe the disorder is caused by hearing loss or nerve damage, to which the brain tries but fails to adjust.

"Brain changes in response to nerve damage or cochlear trauma cause irregular neural activity believed to be responsible for many types of chronic pain and tinnitus," said Michael Kilgard of the University of Texas, co-author of the study in the journal Nature.

"We believe the part of the brain that processes sounds -- the auditory cortex -- delegates too many neurons to some frequencies, and things begin to go awry," he said.

To fix that, researchers used rats to test a theory that they could reset the brain by retraining it so that errant neurons return to their normal state.

In rats with tinnitus, they electrically stimulated the vagus nerve, which runs from the head through the neck to the abdomen, in combination with playing a certain high-pitched tone.

When stimulated, the nerve can encourage changes in the brain by releasing chemicals such as acetylcholine and norepinephrine that act as neurotransmitters.

Rats that underwent the pairing of noise and stimulation experienced a halt to the ringing sounds for up to three and a half months, while control rats that received just noise or just stimulation did not.

An examination of neural responses in the auditory cortexes showed normal levels in the rats who were treated with the combination of stimulation and sound, indicating the tinnitus had disappeared.

The treatment "not only reorganized the neurons to respond to their original frequencies, but it also made the brain responses sharper," the study said.

"The key is that, unlike previous treatments, we're not masking the tinnitus, we're not hiding the tinnitus," said Kilgard.

"We are returning the brain from a state where it generates tinnitus to a state that does not generate tinnitus. We are eliminating the source of the tinnitus."

Clinical trials are expected to begin on humans in the coming months, with the first trials starting in Europe, according to lead study author Navzer Engineer.

The process of vagus nerve stimulation, known as VNS, is already being used in the treatment of around 50,000 people with epilepsy or depression, the study said.

"This minimally invasive method of generating neural plasticity allows us to precisely manipulate brain circuits, which cannot be achieved with drugs," said Engineer.

"Pairing sounds with VNS provides that precision by rewiring damaged circuits and reversing the abnormal activity that generates the phantom sound."

Like many sufferers, Chepko has learned to cope with the noise.

"I have to find some other way to relax to just endure it, take a bath or do stretches or just lie down and stare or read a book, depending on how bad it is," she said.

"I have kind of lived around it, or over it."


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