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croc
15th December 2010, 07:42 PM
The quantity of paper money will continue to grow as the world wrestles with its problems. As every day passes, one’s worst fears of yesterday materialise. Governments, driven by social pressures rather than dispassionate economics, are forced into ever-increasing financial rescues; but by far the biggest problem facing them is the seeming inevitability of a full-scale banking collapse.

That is what has the panjandrums of Euroland in a panic over Ireland. We are told by the Bank for International Settlements that total Irish debt to foreign investors stands at $791bn, the substantial majority of which is owed by the banking sector. Ireland on its own might not derail European banks, but the domino effect of the spreading problem most probably will.

This obviously cannot be allowed to happen. Forget the rights and wrongs of “too big to fail”: politicians and therefore central banks have no option but to intervene. But what can they do? They cannot fund a rescue with taxes, and they are already borrowing as much as the bond markets can stand. There is only the nuclear option left, however it is dressed up: shore up the system by printing as much money as it takes. Printing money is simply the way governments buy time.

This analysis may turn out to be unfortunately right, or hopefully wrong; but it is more right today than it was last month and also progressively so for the months before that. The rising interest in precious metals is entirely consistent with the growing likelihood that the printing of fiat currencies will continue to accelerate in order to buy off default. While the translation of monetary inflation into price inflation is rarely an even result, we know from both economics and the experience of history that the two are linked as cause and effect respectively. So we can conclude that paper money will continue to lose its value for the foreseeable future.

more at
http://www.financeandeconomics.org/Articles%20archive/2010.11.22%20gold%20and%20cash.htm

Glass
15th December 2010, 09:26 PM
I'd like to see a break down of that debt. What it exactly is made up of.

Who are the foreign investors and exactly who or what is classed as "Ireland". Is it the Govt or is it the Irish banks and the Govt.

Cebu_4_2
15th December 2010, 10:21 PM
What difference would it really make if the banks crashed? They don't loan anything which is a big part of this economic mess. People have been trained to borrow for the past 40 years and then suddenly they crash the market, send trillions to bankers that are told not to lend... what am I missing here?

Glass
15th December 2010, 11:12 PM
The banks would take their debt to the grave with them. People still with mortgages would not need to pay theirs out unless someone fronted with the "Note". People who paid their mortgages in full would complain.

What are you missing? Nothing at all.

croc
15th December 2010, 11:24 PM
be the banks alright, derivatives and all the other scams.

Then to make it better, steal the only value left, pension money.
I thought the dark ages were gone, cut a vein, bleed out all your blood, sure it will make you better.