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G2Rad
16th December 2010, 09:40 AM
This thread is continuation of the other (http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/why-won't-god-heal-amputees/) human body thread


Claim: All beauty is mathematics


Expounded:

Image of "beauty" - is an image of "HUMANNESS".

Beauty/ humanness is the way we identify our own species, and individuals within our species

We need a way to identify our own species for mating, bonding, self- protection and other survival purposes. Also we need to be able to distinguish healthy and disease free individuals within our species for similar purposes.

Mathematics (beauty) is how we do that. Subconscious visual perception of "humanness" is beauty.

"humanness" is the genetically coded visual image of an "ideal" human face

Our bodies are built based on Fibonachi Numbers (see the other thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/why-won't-god-heal-amputees/) for many examples)

Fibonachi Ratio is also called Golden Ratio (go to wiki for the details)

Lets built a geometrical construct based on Golden (Fibonachi) Ratio

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/line_dec.swf




DNA is built on Fibonachi
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/dec_dna.swf





Use Fibonachi Ratio to make mathematical human beauty matrix

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/dec_mask.swf




from human beauty matrix to human face
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mask_face.swf




Control.




1. Check the human beauty matrix against different race samples

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Jane_-BIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Jane_-_w_Mask_BIG.jpg

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Gina_-BIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Gina_-_w_Mask_BIG.jpg


http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Asian_Female_-BIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Asian_Female_-_1B_-_w_Mask_BIG.jpg


http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Black_Female-BIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/RF_-_Black_Female-1B_-_w_Mask_BIG.jpg








2. Check the human beauty matrix against beautiful and unattractive

a) Beautiful
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/E6HBIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/E6HwMaskBIG.jpg

b) Attractive
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/G7LBIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/G7LwMaskBIG.jpg

c) Average
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/W3SBIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/W3SwMaskBIG.jpg

d) unattractive
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/S2GBIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/S2GwMaskBIG.jpg

e) ugly
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/D7WBIG.jpg
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/D7WwMaskBIG.jpg


The End

I hope that was entertaining

more about fibonachi numbers and human body is on the other thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/why-won't-god-heal-amputees/)

Ash_Williams
16th December 2010, 10:03 AM
I hope that was entertaining


It was.

The Fibonachi sequence shows up everywhere. It's a way for things to grow yet still remain balanced. For example, a shell can grow larger and larger without its center of gravity changing, so the simple animal within can always use the same programming to move around. I believe antlers and horns work this way too, so that while they may get heavier, they don't get heavier in any one direction on the head of the elk or ram or whatever animal has them.

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 10:26 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__UQSIjH59iA/TB2zsjBQKRI/AAAAAAAADn8/tzSKE1svrJo/s320/Emma_Watson_Beautiful_Face_920x920_Pixels.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__UQSIjH59iA/TB-8ei4rJbI/AAAAAAAAETs/dUQ03c1Z_oI/s1600/Emma-Watson-Beautiful-Face-Golden-Ratio-920x920-Pixels.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__UQSIjH59iA/TCAEyTXN9mI/AAAAAAAAEZ0/Wja_1LSpD8w/s320/Aishwarya_Rai_Length_Width_Facial_Proportion_400x4 00_Pixels.gif

solid
16th December 2010, 10:56 AM
G2Rad, very interesting, indeed. Thanks for sharing.

However, to apply math to beauty seems a bit far-fetched, unless you want to apply it to beauty as fed to us by the media.

Beauty, really is in the eye of the beholder. We all have differences on what we find beautiful, and a lot of people that beauty shines from within. You can't apply math to that.

Ponce
16th December 2010, 11:10 AM
You can find anything in everything if you look hard enough .......... I don't need math to tell me that I am a very hansome devil hahahahahahahahah.

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 11:39 AM
We all have differences on what we find beautiful. You can't apply math to that.


can you prove that, please? :)





very interesting, indeed. Thanks for sharing.

( you are welkome :) )

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 11:42 AM
We all have differences on what we find beautiful. You can't apply math to that.

can you prove that, please? :)


I would believe you, if at least one person at this forum calls the face below pretty

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/D7WBIG.jpg

solid
16th December 2010, 11:47 AM
I would believe you, if at least one person at this forum calls the face below pretty

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/D7WBIG.jpg


That's just a horrible picture, to begin with though. If that gal was smiling, had proper lighting, etc, we'd all see something different. Just saying, the photos you posted are a bit biased, imo.

Ponce
16th December 2010, 12:02 PM
That "ugly" girl on a island all by herself would look at herself as being beautifull because there is no one else to compared to........we made her ugly and not because she's ugly... to me shes not ugly, only different.

When I used to sell by ballons rubber filled stress hand balls many of them were more pretty than others and one day a buyer told me that he wanted all of them to be pretty........I asked him "To you wich one is the more beautifull one" and he took one out and I put is aside and then I asked him the same question and by the time that we finished there was only one ball in the box........he looked at me and said "I know what you mean" and then placed a very high order.

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 12:03 PM
The subconscious appreciation of mathematical perfection is hard wired into us

IMHO, beauty is an index of conformity with the design specs, (which are hard-wired into human brain)

The beauty is in human design specifications, because they are built on mathematical principles of harmony, symmetry and perfection

IMHO IMHO IMHO

:)

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 12:14 PM
That's just a horrible picture, to begin with though. Just saying, the photos you posted are a bit biased, imo.


everything possible was made to remove biase

we have here simple frontal shots, the same lighting for all the girls



If that gal was smiling, had proper lighting, etc, we'd all see something different.
solid, note that smiling, "proper" lighting and proper makeup will introduce biase into our perception of girl's beauty. the same biase against which you argue in your post!

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 12:26 PM
That "ugly" girl on a island all by herself would look at herself as being beautifull because there is no one else to compared to

Ponce, no need to say, that when Ponce needs to go real bad

this

http://www.littlefishtravel.com/World-Travel/Images/toilet.jpg

is as good as this:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2010/07/20/12_2.jpg

or this

http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2010/07/20/15a_1.jpg

solid
16th December 2010, 12:32 PM
everything possible was made to remove biase

we have here simple frontal shots, the same lighting for all the girls

solid, note that smiling, "proper" lighting and proper makeup will introduce biase into our perception of girl's beauty. the same biase against which you argue in your post!



You are right G2Rad, I stand corrected.

What is interesting though, is I actually find gal B more attractive than gal A. She seems almost nicer, has more inner beauty,etc. Gal A almost seems to 'media perfect', rigid, created out what perceptions we are supposed to think.

Something to think about, for sure.

What's the big point to all this, anyway? A lot of this is just going right over my head.

Ponce
16th December 2010, 12:56 PM
There should be river rocks there instead of toilet paper.......been there and done that.

G2Rad
16th December 2010, 12:57 PM
Beauty, really is in the eye of the beholder.

beholder or beerholder? ;D

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/Haako9/Beer-Poster-Card-C10204348.jpg

;D



I agree about the inner beauty though

lapis
16th December 2010, 02:28 PM
Gal A almost seems to 'media perfect', rigid, created out what perceptions we are supposed to think.

Something to think about, for sure.

I think what's wrong with "media perfect" is that the faces/bodies are too thin. These are the pictures of women who can't reproduce. These are the pictures of "physical degeneration," a term coined by nutrition researcher Weston Price. He traveled the world studying the world's healthiest peoples, and they all had wide faces and noses (even the few whities).

A co-worker of mine's close friend worked for some fancy Beverly Hills doctor whose patients were mostly celebrities.

She claimed that most of these women needed help conceiving, because they either weren't ovulating, or weren't able to carry a baby in their own uteruses (uteri?) past the first trimester without spontaneously aborting.

Rebel Yarr
16th December 2010, 07:08 PM
36-24-36

cedarchopper
17th December 2010, 09:18 AM
The Golden Ratio is also pleasing to the eye on many design levels... I've build a lot of furniture using the Golden Rectangle. The Pompeii wood fired oven I built uses the Golden Ratio...and it burns like a blast furnace with no visible smoke and the heat is directed to the oven floor in the most efficient way possible.

The Golden Ratio is like a hidden hand for people who are aware of it.

Joe King
17th December 2010, 11:35 AM
everything possible was made to remove biase

we have here simple frontal shots, the same lighting for all the girls

solid, note that smiling, "proper" lighting and proper makeup will introduce biase into our perception of girl's beauty. the same biase against which you argue in your post!



You are right G2Rad, I stand corrected.

What is interesting though, is I actually find gal B more attractive than gal A. She seems almost nicer, has more inner beauty,etc. Gal A almost seems to 'media perfect', rigid, created out what perceptions we are supposed to think.
Something to think about, for sure.

What's the big point to all this, anyway? A lot of this is just going right over my head.


So what you're really saying is that you're a "Mary Ann" kinda guy, right? lol

ximmy
17th December 2010, 12:59 PM
Effects of the Fibonachi Beer Ratio...
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/6beers.gif