If "they" closed down GSUS..... ???

[Ponce]

OK people, you know me, I like to think about everything "before" it happens what with my "what would happen if" game of mine...........so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?

[midnight rambler]

Instead of weeping, wailing, gnashing teeth, wringing hands or fcuking hosing up one's head playing fukking Satanic video games of death and destruction (aka "fruitless deeds of darkness"), one could engage by getting involved with the material Rod Class and his group presents.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc

[steyr_m]

I say we have a "net" on the 20M band on HF radio.

[1970 silver art]

Maybe keep contact information with other posters that you had some sort of contact with in order to keep in touch with them if GSUS got closed down.

[osoab]

I say we have a "net" on the 20M band on HF radio.


Got a good, cheap HF rig recommendation.

[steyr_m]

I say we have a "net" on the 20M band on HF radio.


Got a good, cheap HF rig recommendation.


If it could move to the 10M band, I'd say the Yaesu FT-8900. it's under $500 (what's your definition of cheap?) and give you the 70cm/2M/6M/10M bands. If using as a base, I'd put the 70cm/2M on an omni and the 6M/10M bands on their own high-gain Yagi. Plus, it gives you cross-band repeat...

[steyr_m]

Also as a side note. IMHO, I feel that non-regular communications will be essential in post-SHTF. I mean anything outside of cell-phones and internet (which only leaves ham-radio).

[osoab]

I say we have a "net" on the 20M band on HF radio.


Got a good, cheap HF rig recommendation.


If it could move to the 10M band, I'd say the Yaesu FT-8900. it's under $500 (what's your definition of cheap?) and give you the 70cm/2M/6M/10M bands. If using as a base, I'd put the 70cm/2M on an omni and the 6M/10M bands on their own high-gain Yagi. Plus, it gives you cross-band repeat...


I haven't really put in the research to get a HF rig for awhile. That purchase fell off my radar.
Only got my Tech license last year, so my knowledge base is still small. I am just completely amazed by the tech involved with ham radio. I don't think I had looked at the Yaesu model before. I will have to take a closer look at it.

[steyr_m]

I say we have a "net" on the 20M band on HF radio.


Got a good, cheap HF rig recommendation.


If it could move to the 10M band, I'd say the Yaesu FT-8900. it's under $500 (what's your definition of cheap?) and give you the 70cm/2M/6M/10M bands. If using as a base, I'd put the 70cm/2M on an omni and the 6M/10M bands on their own high-gain Yagi. Plus, it gives you cross-band repeat...


I haven't really put in the research to get a HF rig for awhile. That purchase fell off my radar.
Only got my Tech license last year, so my knowledge base is still small. I am just completely amazed by the tech involved with ham radio. I don't think I had looked at the Yaesu model before. I will have to take a closer look at it.


yeah, I've been in an out of it for awhile. It's hard when you're regulated to talk about .....ham radio. I think it will be extremely useful in SHTF with other like-minded people who have their own equip. too.

[osoab]

Also as a side note. IMHO, I feel that non-regular communications will be essential in post-SHTF. I mean anything outside of cell-phones and internet (which only leaves ham-radio).


What about your antennas making you a visible target?

I agree that ham radio will be necessary, that's why I jumped in.

[steyr_m]

Also as a side note. IMHO, I feel that non-regular communications will be essential in post-SHTF. I mean anything outside of cell-phones and internet (which only leaves ham-radio).


What about your antennas making you a visible target?

I agree that ham radio will be necessary, that's why I jumped in.


There are lots of projects on ARRL magazine (Is that what it's called??) where antennas can be hid in an attic.

[platinumdude]

If they close down gsus we can all go to gim2.

[Dogman]

Also as a side note. IMHO, I feel that non-regular communications will be essential in post-SHTF. I mean anything outside of cell-phones and internet (which only leaves ham-radio).


What about your antennas making you a visible target?

I agree that ham radio will be necessary, that's why I jumped in.


There are lots of projects on ARRL magazine (Is that what it's called??) where antennas can be hid in an attic.


There are several publications the ARRL publishes, They have antenna handbooks, magazines, the
ARRL handbook they publish every year (Big) And about everything you can think of when it comes to ham radio and communications.

There are several wire antennas that can be made that if you have trees in your yard, there are antennas you can make that can not be seen unless you know where to look. When it comes to getting an signal out and in , where there is a will there is a way!

20m is a very good long haul band during the day, 40m is great during the day for local 600 mile radius, and international at night. 75-80m is a night time band that can cover the usa and international , in the winter when the t-storms calm down. 17m is another good band, 15, 12 , 10 are best during solar peaks , 15m is a very good band when it is open,

And they can all suck during geomagnetic storms.

[Book]

...so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?



I'm heading for Casa del Mamboni wtshtf. Ten acre estate. Swimming pool. Expensive cigars. Pharmaceutical-grade drugs...

:D

[StackerKen]

IF the shtf, I won't have time to talk to you folks...sorry ::)

[Ponce]

Uffffffffffffff Book, for a moment there you scared me.......La Casa De Ponce is off limits to you....I'll feed you to my deers if you come over here.

[Sparky]

If they closed down GSUS, we wouldn't have to tolerate any more of those whiny "Here's Why This Will Be My Last GSUS Post" threads. :P

[Glass]

I've been researching antenna types for quite a while now. I have a mobile HF rig, a 27Mhz rig and a bunch of hand helds that are dual or single band.

I have 2 antenna needs. One for my base location and one that is portable and can be set up on poles or strung up in some trees. I think for HF a long wire type antenna is the better option. Depending on the band it can be a pretty long wire but a 1/4 wave antenna on 80 metres is going to be about 20metres long. At 20 metres long I can fit this at my QTH.

The main long wire types are centre fed dipoles which have a feed line going to the meeting point of 2 long wires. Another type is an L fed antenna which I don't quite understand the construction of it yet. I really need something that can be fed at one end because of where my radio is located in the building. To run it to the middle for a centre fed dipole would be further than I want to run a feed line.

Then I came across a design called an end fed dipole. It is physically end fed but electrically it is centre fed. The design looks pretty simple and you can make either a fixed bandwidth one and with the help of a tuner match it to other bands or you can adjust the design (see 2nd link) to give you the ability to add different radials to it and change the band (or resonant frequency). The other benefit is that it is portable so you can back pack it.

Here is the original design I found: http://worldradiomagazine.com/wro_issues/2010/WRO_08_2010.pdf

Sorry it's about 70 pages so go to the end of the document for the design. Also the design is not really clear unless you have an idea of the basics IMO.

The modified version of this design for portable applications. It is just a bit lighter for carrying but there is a compromise on the power it can handle. Realistically about 10 watts max. If you don't mind packing a bit of extra weight there is nothing stopping you taking the original design above. The following link is another edition of the world radio magazine but it shows in more detail the principles of the design. It also tells you what toroids are required for both designs. These toroids form a choke for the RF signal and determine the amount of wattage the antenna can handle as well as set the wavelength of the antenna.

http://www.worldradiomagazine.com/wro_issues/2010/WRO_10_2010.pdf

So go to page 14 of this one to see the lite design. In this design it uses a sheet of acrylic to facilitate the joining of the feed line/ first dipole portion (radial) and the second dipole portion.By moving the choke along the feed line you adjust the lenght of the first dipole portion and then you can attach different length wires to the second dipole portion. This gives you the different wave lengths.

Personally I think if you wanted to be really stealthy this type of antenna is ideal. A low wattage CW (morse) transciever 2w> <5w and one of these antennas and you would be set.

Just on a side note. When you check out these links. Take a look at the guy sitting on the "island" with his radio gear - Pg 7 or Pg 5. It's an Ad but pretty funny.

For local HAM radio like 2 metres you could look at something called a J pole. These can be made from a piece of ladder line and coax. That can be rolled up in to a very small package and simply dangled from a tree. I also have a couple of antennas called pogo sticks. They are 70cm/2m antennas made from a length of coax with a coax coil for a choke and put inside about 1m of 1" PVC pipe. They are light weight. You could back pack with them but I just keep them handy. One at home, one at work and one in the trunk.

On top of all of that there is another pre made antenna which uses similar principles called the miracle MMD. http://www.miracleantenna.com/MMD.htm

There is a you tube for it, where the guy talks you through how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIZZCbc3044&feature=player_embedded

[gunDriller]

IF the shtf, I won't have time to talk to you folks...sorry ::)


i think the SH already HTF, it's just they haven't gone too much beyond travel restrictions & domestic surveillance in the 'homeland'.

i met an Iraqi family, scattered to the 4 corners literally.

1 doctor brother in Australia with his family. Australia recognized his degree so he could get a doctor's license there.

1 sister in Chicago. another sister in Canada, another in Europe.

and one son and his family and their all mother, in New York.

for them, it's already HTF.


as far as a shutdown of the Internet, to some extent it's in progress. but just here and there, like GIM1's closure, and the shutdown of a previous unedited part of the Internet by Google, USENET. (75,000+ newsgroups)

the 2 technologies that provide a work-around - learning to set up and administer a website format like at GIM1 & G-S.us. learning a little php-mySQL, which usually involves typing on a screen like the screen here, without the custom smilies. ;D

if the Internet were shut all the way down in an area the old technology of dial-in computer bulletin boards would have to be resurrected. and those BBS's can be connected.

[millwright]

Got my ticket this year.

First thing i did was build my own 6 meter and two meter yagis.

The six meter is 18 feet long with 6 elements. 30 feet off the ground. 100 watts in i can regularly talk to guys in Florida,over 600 miles away.

My two meter yagi is 8 feet long with 6 elements. Its sitting 25 feet off the ground. In normal conditions i can do two hundred miles in any direction. Under ideal conditions 300 + miles has been achieved.

I also have a G5RV long wire strung in the trees. That is for 10 thru 80 meters. On the long wire the sky is the limit. It has its issues, but Europe and South America is open every day for me.

Got a small vertical for local FM on 6 and 2 plus 70 CM.

Also have 1.25 meter, 2 meter and 10 meter mobile setup in my minivan.


Im ready ! ! !

[Awoke]

Well with the destruction of GIM, I started up an small email ring with about 20 members from there. I still have that email ring, although we don't actively use email to communicate.

Anyone who is interested can be included, no shills allowed.

non-inculcated *at*hotmail *dot* com


I also have a shortwave reciever, but I have to get it up an running (Needs antenna cable connector) but it's a good unit. I can't remember what kind it is off the top of my head, but I know I saw that unit selling on Ebay for $350+, and I got it for $70.

If they shut down GSus, that's one thing, but like Ken said, if TSHTF I wont be chatting on the interwebz.

[MAGNES]

Awoke, I have two lists, a big fat list who I don't know who is on, shills for sure.

And a very tight list, and your list, everyone is vetted. Remember I answered
some questions for you, who is , etc, like JDR , who is this guy ? Shady . ;D

If GSUS goes down, everyone go your own way and seed the web with information.

That's it for me for fighting shills and secret mods.

I wouldn't mind being on a tight very vetted forum where
we only post gems and talk. Even if very few posts.

[gunDriller]

I wouldn't mind being on a tight very vetted forum where
we only post gems and talk. Even if very few posts.


you mean, no clowny stuff ?

http://torontoist.com/attachments/toronto_jamesh/2007_08_07clown.jpg

[Silver Shield]

IMO if they shut the internet down, something VERY bad will be happening that they need the undivided attention of the sheeple.

IMO false flag of Internet, blamed on the Chinese of course.

False flag of our dollar devalued, blamed on the Chinese of course.

False flag of our air craft carriers, blamed on the Chinese of course.

The military industrial complex will march the sheeple off to war.

The banksters will laugh and count their money.

Game as old as time.

[RJB]

Yep, if they shut down the internet, there is a reason why they won't want people communicating. Don't get stressed out, but keep a firearm very handy.

[mamboni]

...so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?



I'm heading for Casa del Mamboni wtshtf. Ten acre estate. Swimming pool. Expensive cigars. Pharmaceutical-grade drugs...

:D


Yo Holmes!

You are always welcome! When we're not shooting zombies, I figure we can bunker down, drink single malt scotch, and spend the apocalypse watching my collection of classic B-movies and listening to great music!

Magical herbs are always welcome.

'boni

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[sirgonzo420]

...so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?



I'm heading for Casa del Mamboni wtshtf. Ten acre estate. Swimming pool. Expensive cigars. Pharmaceutical-grade drugs...

:D


Yo Holmes!

You are always welcome! When we're not shooting zombies, I figure we can bunker down, drink single malt scotch, and spend the apocalypse watching my collection of classic B-movies and listening to great music!

Magical herbs are always welcome.

'boni

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Did someone say "magical herbs"?


;D

[Twisted Titan]

They shut down the net Im makking a bee line straight home and getting battle ready...........The next emergency will be the Long emergency IMO

All you can do is to keep a paper journal and hope another patriots realizes the inherit value in your tome should they come across it.

Remeber: HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE WINNERS

T

[Book]

...so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?



I'm heading for Casa del Mamboni wtshtf. Ten acre estate. Swimming pool. Expensive cigars. Pharmaceutical-grade drugs...

:D


You are always welcome! When we're not shooting zombies, I figure we can bunker down, drink single malt scotch, and spend the apocalypse watching my collection of classic B-movies and listening to great music!



http://www.historic-uk.com/StayUK/Scotland/Edinburgh/Castles/CastleVenlaw07.jpg

We also need to get some regular exercise (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u1ysKRt1C9M/TLPDjrhuyJI/AAAAAAAAAGk/2TDalzMQ6Xk/s1600/croquet.jpg) and fresh air at Casa del Mamboni.

:D

[Dogman]

...so, let's make plans about how to get together once again somewhere somehow.

Any ideas?



I'm heading for Casa del Mamboni wtshtf. Ten acre estate. Swimming pool. Expensive cigars. Pharmaceutical-grade drugs...

:D


Yo Holmes!

You are always welcome! When we're not shooting zombies, I figure we can bunker down, drink single malt scotch, and spend the apocalypse watching my collection of classic B-movies and listening to great music!

Magical herbs are always welcome.

'boni

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Did someone say "magical herbs"?


;D


The term "magical botanicals" would be more enlightening!

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[gunDriller]

Did someone say "magical herbs"?
;D

The term "magical botanicals" would be more enlightening!
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is it possible it's a Vitamin ? Vitamin 420 ?

[Dogman]

Did someone say "magical herbs"?
;D

The term "magical botanicals" would be more enlightening!
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is it possible it's a Vitamin ? Vitamin 420 ?


That could be amongst others that grow in the ground! ;D

[Book]

Well with the destruction of GIM, I started up an small email ring with about 20 members from there. I still have that email ring, although we don't actively use email to communicate.



http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pigeon-carrier.jpg

I get regular and dependable communications from Casa del Mamboni. We doubled the speed of our encrypted connection recently by soaking the birdseed in a special liquid (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/24/article-1060705-02C5D5B300000578-994_233x407.jpg). Shortwave radios and other modern technologies are not always best.

:)

[DMac]

Book, that pic is brilliant and not in a comedic way. Food for thought..

Sneakernet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet)

Firm enlists Winston the homing pigeon to transfer data - because he's faster than broadband (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1212214/Company-enlists-Winston-homing-pigeon-carry-data-transfer--faster-broadband.html)

[Book]

Book, that pic is brilliant and not in a comedic way. Food for thought..



Thanks DMac. The operating cost (http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=68&name=Flash-Memory&Order=PRICE) for data transport can be very low also.

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[sirgonzo420]

Book, that pic is brilliant and not in a comedic way. Food for thought..



Thanks DMac. The operating cost (http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=68&name=Flash-Memory&Order=PRICE) for data transport can be very low also.

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I'd say the cost is "chickenfeed", but that's not exactly accurate.... more like "pigeonfeed".

:D

[Ponce]

Haven't seen any real constructive posting here on this matter........keep on thinking about it.

[Libertytree]

If GSUS goes down then all other related sites will be down too. Reference GoD's Skype thread, we'd all be SOL as far as communications are concerned. This only serves to highlight the need for a local, real life network of people in your area, because if comm's are shut down then there's a pretty good chance TSHHTF.

[Ponce]

Well, as you all know I live alone and my home will become my castle and I will defended the same way, a single guy one property over will have his walky talky on 24/7 as I will so that we can help each other, also we will fire 3 quick shots to alert each other.

[vacuum]

Anyone with an email list add me. Its my username at gmx.com.

[sirgonzo420]

Anyone with an email list add me. Its my username at gmx.com.


Anyone with an email list can add me also. It's my username at yahoo.com.


:)