European Jewish Congress 'repulsed' by Greek priest's anti-Semitic remarks

[PatColo]

hey we got a Greek Bishop Williamson over here! 8)


Haaretz:

European Jewish Congress 'repulsed' by Greek priest's anti-Semitic remarks (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/european-jewish-congress-repulsed-by-greek-priest-s-anti-semitic-remarks-1.332223)

[ShortJohnSilver]

Interesting ... wonder how many of the commenters will be going on a "list" for the New Chekists to use at some point in the future.

[General of Darkness]

Someone needs to remake this song and re-direct it towards the self "chosen" ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU

[woodman]

They want to make telling the truth illegal.

[Awoke]

“European nations and the European Union must immediately pass robust legislation to ban and sanction anti-Semitism in all its forms and at all levels."



Wow. How much longer till people start picking up firearms again, I wonder....

[Neuro]

They want to make telling the truth illegal.
Seems like that. Seems pretty truthful what he said:

While being interviewed on a morning show of Greece's largest television station, Mega TV, the Metropolite of Piraeus Seraphim said that international Zionism tries to destroy family values by promoting one-parent families and same-sex marriages, and said there is a Zionist conspiracy to enslave Greece and Christian Orthodoxy.

The Metropolite also said that Hitler was just a tool used by Zionists in order to ensure the establishment of Israel.

When the Greek host asked him, "Why do you disagree with Hitler's politics? If they are doing all this, wasn't he right in burning them?," the Metropolite answered, "Adolf Hitler was an instrument of world Zionism and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire."

He went on to say that Jews such as "Rockefeller, Rotchschild and Soros control the international banking system that controls globalization."

[gunDriller]

hey we got a Greek Bishop Williamson over here! 8)


Haaretz:

European Jewish Congress 'repulsed' by Greek priest's anti-Semitic remarks (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/european-jewish-congress-repulsed-by-greek-priest-s-anti-semitic-remarks-1.332223)


and for every Jew who is "repulsed", there are several Gentiles who cheer the Greek priest's honesty, and dozens who wonder WTF is going on ... and are manipulated into dumb compliance by the media.

so let the Jews be repulsed.

[Serpo]

Oh no the pain ,what insulting remarks,aaaaahhhhh the truth why its like a dagger in the heart of the Zoinist Jew.

[PatColo]

“European nations and the European Union must immediately pass robust legislation to ban and sanction anti-Semitism in all its forms and at all levels."

If this were to be interpreted literally/correctly, meaning Arabs are authentic Semites and Khazar "Jewish" Zionists are not, then the proposed banning/sanctioning of "anti-Semitism" would actually be productive in silencing the Zionist anti-Semitic hate mongering (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-hate-mongers-among-us-(great-vid-re-propaganda!)/msg130016/#msg130016) spewed endlessly by the MSM, and in ending the Zionist Holocausting of authentic Semites in the Mid East wars of Zio-aggression.


http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/images/iraqdeaths.gif

But alas, I'm pretty sure they're proposing these not-so-new thought crimes (http://www.google.com/search?q=holocaust+thought+crime+prison+Irving+Rud olph+zundel) in the context of their Zionist/Orwellian/fake version of reality, where Khazars are magically redefined as Semitic, and authentic Arab Semites are redefined simply as Scary Moozlems Booga Booga.



When the Greek host asked him, "Why do you disagree with Hitler's politics? If they are doing all this, wasn't he right in burning them?," the Metropolite answered, "Adolf Hitler was an instrument of world Zionism and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire."

Here the Greek host framed the question with the "burning" component of the Official Holohoax Narrative (http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2010/March/15%20o/Truth,%20History,%20and%20Integrity%20Questioning% 20the%20Holocaust%20Religion%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon .htm) integrated into the question as though it were established fact (and by the "burning" component, I mean the notion that 'millions' of Jews were cremated; not an anomalous few hundreds or thousands who the Germans may have expended scarce/precious-at-war-time fuel to cremate for whatever reason). The Metropolite apparently answered with a description of Hitler as a Zio-tool.

This virtually identical Haaretz story, Senior Greek priest blames Jews for Greece's financial problems (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/senior-greek-priest-blames-jews-for-greece-s-financial-problems-1.332131), repeats the paragraph verbatim.

But in this other Haaretz story, Greek government condemns priest for anti-Semitic statements (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/greek-government-condemns-priest-for-anti-semitic-statements-1.332555), we read:


The Greek government condemned on Thursday the anti-Semitic statements by the Metropolite of Piraeus Seraphim which were broadcast on national television earlier this week, in which he blamed Jews for the country's financial crisis and said that the Holocaust was a Jewish fabrication.

This would suggest that the Metropolite doesn't buy the "burning" component of the Official Holohoax Narrative (http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2010/March/15%20o/Truth,%20History,%20and%20Integrity%20Questioning% 20the%20Holocaust%20Religion%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon .htm). I wonder why Haaretz left out that bit from the two other stories, given how they're seeking to describe the reasons for the "revulsion" the EJC claimed to have felt? :conf: :oo-->

[Ares]

Why doesn't the Greek Bishop bring this little bit of information up and request why the silence when one of their own says something like this?

Major rabbi says non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7116292-major-rabbi-says-nonjews-are-donkeys-created-to-serve-jews

I hope people really start seeing the Zionist agenda for what it is, and quit being intimidated by anti-semite remarks by those who are not even semites.

[gunDriller]

hey we got a Greek Bishop Williamson over here! 8)


Haaretz:

European Jewish Congress 'repulsed' by Greek priest's anti-Semitic remarks (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/european-jewish-congress-repulsed-by-greek-priest-s-anti-semitic-remarks-1.332223)


i'm repulsed by their repulsion.

[PatColo]

i'm repulsed by their repulsion.



The EJC might consider adapting Herman Rosenblat's model (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/as-many-as-90-of-those-claiming-to-be-holocaust-survivors-may-be-frauds/msg158371/#msg158371), in response to your repulsion to their fake repulsion:


Reporter: "Why did you tell this lie?"

jew: "It wasn't a lie. In my imagination, it was true"

Reporter: "But it didn't happen, and you know it didn't happen, so it was a lie"

jew: "It didn't happen, but in my imagination, it happened."

So the EJC's adaptation might go like,


gunDriller: "Why do you lie by publicly feigning repulsion over the Metopolite's truthful remarks?"

EJC: "It's not lying. In our imaginations, our fake repulsion is real."

gunDriller: "But the Metropolite's remarks are true, and you know they're true."

EJC: "We know they're true, and we're not really repulsed by them; but in our imaginations, we're repulsed by them."


Rosenblat said he told the story to give people hope and to promote understanding about the Holocaust.

...which EJC could adapt thusly,

EJC: "We faked our repulsion to appeal to people's sense of shame and pity towards dajoo, and to promote belief in CLAPPING FOR TINKERBELL "The Official Holohoax Narrative." (http://www.codoh.com/newrevoices/nrjwclapping.html)

[PatColo]

hey we got a Greek Bishop Williamson over here! 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbvkFA8PfaI


Clapping for Tinkerbell (http://www.codoh.com/newrevoices/nrjwclapping.html)

by John Weir

Toward the end of January 2009, Roman Catholic Bishop Williamson, associated with the Society of Saint Pius X, said an interview “I believe that the historical evidence is strongly against — is hugely against — 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler.” An apparent “Jewish leader” who -- according to the CNN headline -- was “outraged” replied with one word: “Rabbi David Rosen of the American Jewish Committee called the move by the Catholic Church [to lift the excommunication of Bishop Williamson] ‘shameful.’”

That sums up the Holocaust and why belief in it persists.

After Bishop Williamson broke the taboo, editorials and quotes professing belief in official Holocaust story appeared in the media. During the first week of February, prodded by who knows who, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, a protestant, released a statement to the press: “the Pope and the Vatican must make it unequivocally clear that there can be no denial that the Holocaust happened.” The Holocaust’s a litmus test for anyone with authority. Chancellor Merkel, with her country sliding into depression, told Pope Benedict that she wants veto authority over Roman Catholic policy and dogma.

PASCAL’S WAGER

“Belief is a wise wager. Granted that faith cannot be proved, what harm will come to you if you gamble on its truth and it proves false? If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation, that He exists.”

Belief in God is different from Holocaust belief: Death reveals the outcome of Pascal’s wager; With the Holocaust, punishment for disbelief is immediate. Along with official expressions of Holocaust belief were calls for Bishop Williamson’s renewed excommunication, banishment, and denunciation of his heresy by the Pope. There can be no positions of authority for disbelievers. After the bishop refused to retract his statements - only promising to review the historical evidence – he was removed as head of a seminary in Argentina and threatened with deportation.

This is the pattern. Once a disbeliever has been identified as being employed by someone that can be publicly, politically pressured, the pressure starts to isolate and discredit the revisionist. This shows belief in the Shoah is very important for several inter-related power structures to maintain. The Shoah has certainly been called the founding myth of Israel, but it’s the founding myth of the modern German republic too. American foreign policy is also dependent on the Hitler paradigm; Nazi analogies are always made when the U.S. State Department threatens another country.

PROFESSION OF FAITH

Group activities promote group cohesion. The rapid punishment of non-conformity discourages questioning of authority. Ritual is established to give insiders the sense of worth and security associated with membership. In hierarchical structures, ritual plays a huge role in establishing authority. Authority is intolerant of anything that undermines its credibility. The Holocaust myth is state-sponsored, foundation-of-the-German-Republic, official. It’s protected like an endangered species in a growing number of countries. As a result, when someone in a position of authority questions the myth, the denunciations come quickly to protect the credibility of those who endorse it.


http://www.codoh.com/graphics4/tinkerbell.jpg
Tinkerbell by Diarmuid Byron O'Connor commissioned by Great Ormond Street Hospital London 2005. Released into the public domain (by the author).


The ritual is set. And we’ll see it again. It is reminiscent of the scene from Peter Pan by J. M. Barrie when the faerie, Tinkerbell swallows poison intended for Peter. Peter then gets the audience to demonstrate its belief in faeries by clapping to resurrect her. Not clapping would imply complicity in fatacide – the murder of a faerie. Any time the dying Holocaust story is questioned, we must demonstrate our belief by clapping for the gas chambers.

PRAESTER FIDES SUPPLEMENTUM SENSUUM DEFECTUI
["Let faith supply what the senses cannot"]

Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) defines a belief as an emotionally held opinion that is treated like a fact. NLP deals with methods for changing human behavior through reorganizing the emotions associated with particular stimuli. The sense of smell, for example, is strongly associated with emotions: People smell cookies baking and are put into a good mood. The particular smell is associated with particular memories and emotions. Creating one of these associations is called “anchoring.” It’s like Pavlov’s experiments where dogs associated the ringing of a bell with being fed. The training caused them to salivate when a bell rang whether food was present or not. People create their own anchors, or anchors can be induced.

The Holocaust myth is a belief -- emotionally held opinion treated as fact. Many negative emotions are associated with both the story and any challenge to it. These emotions are intentionally anchored to the story to protect it from challenge. This technique’s demonstrated with Rabbi Rosen’s single word quote: “Shameful.” Shame’s now associated with the tolerance of anyone who doesn’t accept the Shoah as fact. Rabbi Rosen’s just created an anchor re-enforcing the taboo.

People are taught to associate emotions with propaganda. National symbols, for example, are intentionally associated with specific emotions. Children are trained to feel respect when the flag in on display. It enhances credibility and triggers deference to authority. It opens a mental path for the establishment of belief.

Credibility is needed to implant belief. Bishop Williamson should know this since his business is the promulgation of faith. This explains why “Jewish leaders” always attack revisionist credibility -- to protect established belief.

BELIEF VERSUS KNOWLEDGE

A problem with Bishop Williamson’s reply is it’s prefaced with “I believe.” When asked about this topic, tell the interviewer what’s known, and not what’s believed. When he says “I believe,” Bishop Williamson is challenging one set of beliefs with another. That puts him at a disadvantage. Remember, belief is treated as fact. Anyone starting with “I believe” is expressing opinion. When pitting fact against opinion, fact wins.

Bishop Williamson referred to the Leuchter Report and air photos in his reply to the interviewer. While the Leuchter Report provides important information, invoking it is an appeal to authority. The Leuchter Report presents expert opinion. Coming to a conclusion about whether morgues are gas chambers by examining blueprints and reading the label “morgue” instead of “gas chamber” doesn’t take an engineer. It takes little research to know crematory retorts don’t reduce three bodies in fifteen minutes. Despite that, research is avoided since doubt induces guilt and shame.

Revisionists have attempted to show that it’s possible to determine chemically if Zyklon B was used in a room. Revisionists want to verify the eyewitness accounts. Gas chamber thesis defenders reply that any test contradicting eyewitnesses is invalid since the only dependable evidence is testimony. Those relying on the accounts for their belief accept that the stories are true and find the idea they need confirmation offensive.

The Holocaust taboo won’t be dislodged by pitting one set of sources against another. New approaches need to be tried with the knowledge of how people view belief and how emotions anchor their opinion.

The gas chamber story is a clumsy lie. The problem is dislodging the lie will take more than its exposure. Something has to take its place. The true chronology of Auschwitz has to be offered as a choice. Something happened. If it wasn’t genocide, what was it? Revisionism provides seldom-aired answers.

Auschwitz was no secret. Every day the camp SS office radioed headquarters reporting prisoner tallies. The British intercepted some of these transmissions and monitored Auschwitz. In August 1944, the British RAF labeled a request to plan a mission to bomb the gas chambers “fantastic” – and by that they didn’t mean “terrific.”

There was continuous communication between Auschwitz and the outside world up to its evacuation. Packages and letters went in and out. Staff and prisoners came and went. Photos were taken both by people on the ground and in Allied aircraft. International Red Cross inspectors visited Auschwitz as late as September 1944.

In 1940, the Nazi governor of occupied Poland ordered scrap material be collected and sent to processing centers for sorting and reworking. Starting in 1941, Auschwitz processed enormous quantities of old clothes. This is the source of old shoes put on display at the Auschwitz museum, not gas chamber victims.

Lousy scrap material spread typhus through the camp in mid 1942. Typhus is why Zyklon B was at Auschwitz. Prisoners sorting clothes became infested with lice and caught typhus. To stop the epidemic, large fumigation and disinfection facilities were built in late 1942 and during 1943 to sterilize scrap material and delouse prisoners.

The Nazis left the construction office archive when they evacuated. The plans for the Birkenau crematoria were included in it along with a record of their operation and fuel consumption.

Distinguishing morgues from gas chambers by expert inspection is not necessary. There is no doubt that during 1943 the crematories were only disposing of people whose deaths had been recorded by Auschwitz doctors.

The record for 1944 is sketchier. There are no published fuel delivery receipts for that year. With Germany in retreat, coke became unavailable. The dead were cremated with wood instead of coke: An August 1944 British air photo shows smoke in an area close to one crematory. The Red Army found wood stacked in the same area five months later when it occupied Auschwitz.

There was no extermination of Jews at Auschwitz. If it was happening the Allies would have known about it immediately due to the camp’s transparency.

Make no mistake. The Nazi system of prison and work camps, like the Soviet gulag system, is to be condemned. Many Poles, Jews, and others in the Nazi occupied East were displaced, and enslaved. Their property was stolen and communities scattered. There’s nothing admirable about that. Even so, it’s inexcusable to accuse anyone of imaginary crimes.

Revisionists need to replace the conventional Auschwitz narrative with a real one. If that’s not done, the Holocaust belief won’t be supplanted.

GEMATRIA

The second part of the Holocaust myth Bishop Williamson disbelieves is six million Jews were killed.

The number has symbolic significance for Cabalists. Needless to say, the question how many becomes academic once the gas chambers are discredited. Nevertheless, accepting the six million figure implies there was intent to exterminate the Jews. So, addressing the number is important due to this implication.

There’s no quick way to verify or discredit the six million number. Auschwitz and the number of Jews who died there, on the other hand, can be addressed.

In 1989, Pressac published documents concerning Birkenau crematoria operation.

Auschwitz once was where at least 2.5 million Jews died. For the last twenty years, it’s been where a million Jews died. Though other studies estimate lower numbers, one million is used most.

Assume one million people died at Auschwitz in gas chambers between 1941 and 1944. In those four years, how was this carnage distributed?

In March 1943, Dr. Korherr completed his report for Himmler. It states that by the end of 1942 less than 4,500 Jews had died at Auschwitz.

That means the Nazis needed to kill another 995,500 more in the next two years.

The Nazi built “outsized extermination facilities” in 1943. There were problems. Because of mechanical breakdown, all four crematoria never operated at once. The coke delivery receipts show only enough fuel for around 35,000 cremations was delivered that year. Since the crematories were being used to only burn a number close to 1943 recorded deaths, registered camp deaths were all there were. There were 37,000 registered deaths that year. Because they remained a minority at Auschwitz, less than half that died at Auschwitz in 1943 were Jews.

The Nazis neither built nor repaired crematories in 1944. Fuel deliveries stopped. The transparency of the camp increased as Allied aircraft were photographing the area every few days. It’s impossible there was anything close to another 50,000 cremations at Auschwitz that year.

The number of Jews who died at Auschwitz was somewhere around forty thousand, but none died in the Holocaust as commonly defined. Forty thousand is horrible, but isn’t genocide.

There are two counter-arguments to the use of registered deaths to count Jewish deaths at Auschwitz: The deaths of practically all Jews went unrecorded; there is testimony gassings started as early as autumn 1941 and continued until November 1944.

Claiming official policy kept these events unrecorded isn’t evidence. It’s an excuse. Testimony alone is worthless.

There’s no callous intention here. A death is no less tragic when it’s not part of an official government genocide program. But, as part of a government program, a death becomes exploitable.

This is why we must demonstrate belief in the Holocaust. Deborah Lipstadt explained that the Holocaust was different from the other government mass murders – like Stalin’s – because they were indiscriminant killings of political enemies while Hitler killed members of an identifiable group – Jews. Therefore, Jews not killed by Hitler could claim victim status and as victims seek compensation. If the Shoah becomes discredited, the status of Jews as victims is as well.

It’s high time people stopped believing in Nazi gas chambers. It’s as silly as believing in faeries.

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4k4RGpP7-E

[Hatha Sunahara]

Why doesn't the Greek Bishop bring this little bit of information up and request why the silence when one of their own says something like this?

Major rabbi says non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7116292-major-rabbi-says-nonjews-are-donkeys-created-to-serve-jews

I hope people really start seeing the Zionist agenda for what it is, and quit being intimidated by anti-semite remarks by those who are not even semites.


If you lift yourself above the fray, you can see what is going on a little better. An accusation of anti-semitism is passive aggression. Shame on you, dude, for publicly expressing displeasure with our behavior. Our anti hate speech laws require you to keepa u mouth shut. It's the law! Stifle yourself, or the full power of our god will smite you. And when our Rabbis say you are donkeys created to serve Jews, they say that because that is what the Talmud tells them. The rabbis have created a god that serves only Jews. It is not the same as the Christian or Muslim god.

I have a theory about the Jews and the Talmud. You need to be familiar with the concept of an 'egregore' which is a 'collective group mind'. The Talmud is a collection of writings that are 'group values' that define what Judaism is. To be Jews, Jews have to accept the Talmudic teachings which they get from their rabbis, and those Talmudic teachings of the rabbis is the egregore. The Rabbis keep the group together by scaring them with 'anti-semitism' while at the same time teaching them to be 'anti-gentile'. The Talmud is what has held the Jews
together when they were exiled from Israel to Babylon, and it holds them all together to this very day.

And finally, blaming the Zionists for all this is not aiming high enough. Judaism is a collective group mind. It is not the religion described in the old testament. Judaism considers the Christian New Testament a sacrilege. But Judaism has its own New Testament which is the Talmud and it overrides, nullifies or reverses the laws given in the old testament. Jews brush off all criticism of their behavior if it comes from people who are not familiar with what the Talmud says. They also brush off all criticism or all ideas that come from jews if they disagree with what the rabbis believe. If criticism from the unenlightened becomes too loud and they cannot brush it off, they make it illegal to utter it. That's what hate speech laws are. A criticism management tool to fall back on if the anti-semitism tool fails to squash the criticism. Jews indeed have a god that serves them well. It's unfortunate that it is often at the expense of the other people of the world.


Hatha

[Serpo]

I have observed a number of times that when someone calls someone something that really the reverse is true.Its a bit like the subconscious speaking out.

So in this case the jews become the donkeys.........

and as for a special god to serve only jews,hahahahaha what a pathetic joke.This is school yard teachings of a very low level.

[gunDriller]

I have a theory about the Jews and the Talmud. You need to be familiar with the concept of an 'egregore' which is a 'collective group mind'. The Talmud is a collection of writings that are 'group values' that define what Judaism is. To be Jews, Jews have to accept the Talmudic teachings which they get from their rabbis, and those Talmudic teachings of the rabbis is the egregore. The Rabbis keep the group together by scaring them with 'anti-semitism' while at the same time teaching them to be 'anti-gentile'. The Talmud is what has held the Jews together when they were exiled from Israel to Babylon, and it holds them all together to this very day.

And finally, blaming the Zionists for all this is not aiming high enough. Judaism is a collective group mind. It is not the religion described in the old testament. Judaism considers the Christian New Testament a sacrilege. But Judaism has its own New Testament which is the Talmud and it overrides, nullifies or reverses the laws given in the old testament. Jews brush off all criticism of their behavior if it comes from people who are not familiar with what the Talmud says.

the whole thing is true, but that last part is so true.

the ritual of human sacrifice in Jewish religious tradition goes back millenia. it resulted in the term "Blood Passover", because Jews literally sacrificed gentiles for use in Passover rituals.

same for Purim rituals.

Blood Passover & Purim far precede Zionism, by many many centuries.

Zionism is just the 20th century incarnation of the chosen people's egotism and psychopathology.

i believe Palestine became the prize when they realized that there were near-infinite riches buried beneath the sands of nearby countries. the discovery of oil brought a mercenary fervor to Zionism - i think ... sort of a "you can be rich, you just have to go along with the program" sort of mind-set.

[MAGNES]

While being interviewed on a morning show of Greece's largest television station, Mega TV, the Metropolite of Piraeus Seraphim said that international Zionism tries to destroy family values by promoting one-parent families and same-sex marriages, and said there is a Zionist conspiracy to enslave Greece and Christian Orthodoxy.

When the Greek host asked him, "Why do you disagree with Hitler's politics? If they are doing all this, wasn't he right in burning them?," the Metropolite answered, "Adolf Hitler was an instrument of world Zionism and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire."

He went on to say that Jews such as "Rockefeller, Rotchschild and Soros control the international banking system that controls globalization."

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/senior-greek-priest-blames-jews-for-greece-s-financial-problems-1.332131

I would love to see the original interview.

[PatColo]

I would love to see the original interview.



Surely this "Metropolite of Piraeus Seraphim" has a name? The Haaretz articles are strange in not printing it. I did a google video search for Metropolite of Piraeus Seraphim and there were no relevant finds. If this thing was on national TV, the clip(s) should be sweeping the internets... what's up with your people Magnes?! ;)