Lending out cars...opinions!?

[cpy911]

My wife and I are at odds about lending our mini-van out to family of friends.

Friends on a trip to Northern California called today and wanted to know if we would let their in-laws (family?) borrow our mini-van for a trip. We are in Portland, OR and our mini-van would go from here to Northern California for a week. I could borrow a Honda for the time being as the in-laws (friend's family) need more seating for the kids. Their mini-van broke down just before their trip.

To me it seems unreasonable to ask for such a thing in the first place...to lend a car to complete strangers for a week long road trip???? Huh?

I said NO! For the following reasons:

1. I don't know my friends in-laws (family) at all.
2. Don't want the liability of them crashing/accident on my insurance or damages to someone elses property, ultimately, I would be responsible.
3. I don't want their Honda to drive to work, don't want liability of fixing it if something goes wrong.
4. Don't want my van to break down and be held up in Northern California.
5. Have a rule not to loan out machinery, cuz it always comes back damaged!!! ( I loan out books and other stuff, but not machines!)

I offered to help my friends in-laws (family) in getting a rental by pitching in some cash, but they were trying to save money.

My wife says I don't have enough faith in nothing going wrong and is calling me uncharitable. I like charity, but don't want liability! My offer to help subsidize a rental van, I thought was charitable. All of these people go to our church, so its a church helping each other out thing that my wife is thinking about.

So, what do you think? What are your experiences? Am I a grinch, or is lending cars just a BAD, BAD idea? Especially on a 500+ mile road trip. I think lending cars and machinery is just a bad idea. I would do it for immediate family, but not to family of friends whom I don't know. If something goes wrong...friendships are strained. In fact, things are now strained that I turned them down on the grounds of not being comfortable doing it.

Your thoughts?

Thanks,
CPY911

[ximmy]

Dude, you are on a budget and can't afford it... sorry... end of story.

Maybe there is a rich uncle somewhere who could help out...

[Trinity]

No friggin way! Do not go soft on this one, No friggin way!.

[Ponce]

I'd would rather lend out my wife (if I had one) or my dog (if I had one) rather than my "classic" 91 Toy pick up truck......you would never get your vehicle back in the same conditions that it went out.

[zap]

Good thing you had some sense, don't lend cars or machinery !

I can't believe they actually asked you, it is a very very bad idea to lend cars, don't do it.


There is so much that could possibly go wrong and all the liabilities fall on you, heck even church folk will sue you If something bad happened, sue your ins and you.

That really takes some balls to ask, how rude of them.

[ximmy]

It will come back with a faint strange knocking noise, unremovable stains on the seats, the steering will pull to the right thereafter... a month later you will notice the scratches

[Dogman]

What all other members said! Bad move to do! After so many degrees of separation, you owe no one!

[freespirit]

...up here in canada, i sometimes have need to borrow a vehicle from time to time, while repairing my own...i am lucky enough to have friends willing to help me out, but i carry my own insurance...if something were to happen, my insurance would cover it, not the R/O...but this is usually for a couple of days at best, and typically just around town...

i wouldn't even think to ask to borrow a vehicle to go on such a trip, and i think you have definitely taken the right stance on this. that's why they have rentals w/full coverage. if these people want to save money, they need to rework their itinerary, i think it's inappropriate for them to put you on the spot like that...
the offer of cash to help with a rental is more than charitable.
hang on to your keys, cpy...you'll be glad you did.
definitely not worth the risk.

[cpy911]

Thanks folks. Looks like I am not being unreasonable. It looks like and unreasonable request.

Thanks.

[EE_]

They wanna what! :lol

[midnight rambler]

Frankly, IMO they aren't very good friends to impose upon you like this and put you in the position of being the bad guy for refusing to accommodate such a *reasonable* request. Apparently they have this image of you that you're someone easily taken advantage of.

[milehi]

If they can't afford a rental car, they can't afford to repair your car. And what about installing chains to get over Mt Ashland? It's usually a mess this time of year.

http://www.tripcheck.com/popups/Cam.asp?camera=625&curRegion=7

[cpy911]

Frankly, IMO they aren't very good friends to impose upon you like this and put you in the position of being the bad guy for refusing to accommodate such a *reasonable* request. Apparently they have this image of you that you're someone easily taken advantage of.


Yes. It put me in a bad spot for an unreasonable request.

Thanks for your support guys...I don't feel so bad now.

My guess is that since they are in our church congregation it would not be unreasonable request, but it was not them asking for the vehicle, it was their extended family who would ultimately drive it. Waaay too many degrees of freedom here.

I do feel in a bad position of being the bad guy and wish they never would have imposed like that. I just don't want the risk, liability and problems, I already have enough of that these days.

It doesn't help that the van was given to us by wife's family member before being deployed oversees on the condition WE keep it and drive it (not to sell or profit, since my car was having problems). I had to fix and sell MY car for that, so although generous to us its our vehicle now and I don't want to loan it out to strangers! Its all I have for my ride now.

[Shorty Harris]

My Policy? I don't lend out ANYTHING that I don't want destroyed, Stolen, Tore up, scratched, dinged, stained, or lost. Charity? LOL.. Charity is one thing, stupidity is a completely different animal.

you are practicing preservation of Property....You are preserving what is yours from people who have no connection to your property.

[EE_]

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[midnight rambler]

Waaay too many degrees of freedom here.

All the freedom with very little or no responsibility attached.

"Uh-oh, we're so sorry but the transmission went out on your van (500 miles from your home) so we're taking the bus back home."

Asking for a cash deposit for what you consider to be the replacement value of your family's van would not at all be unreasonable under the circumstances (and shut them up).

[DMac]

Never lend something to anyone that you cannot afford to lose.

[1970 silver art]

DO NOT LEND OUT CARS. This is a very bad idea. Lots of risk (your liability if they have an accident) and absolutely NO reward. This is where you put your foot down and tell your wife "NO WAY!!!!!". I repeat.....DO NOT lend out your car to ANYBODY.

[midnight rambler]

It's hard enough making people who are accountable to you be responsible for your vehicle.

A good friend had one of the guys working for him FUBAR the engine in his 2004 Dodge diesel (which is damn tough to do to a Cummins and it wasn't even under much of a load - we cannot comprehend how he managed to do it) to the tune of $7,500 to replace the engine.

[gunDriller]

you never know. some change could fall out of their pocket and get lodged in the car seat - and it could be 90% silver.

if they are genuine friends, you could offer to show them around in your van, to give them a tour.

it's mighty presumptuous.

are they Jewish ? ;)

[mick silver]

i never would loan my truck out . but if you ask me to haul some thing to help you out a new story

[cpy911]

Not Jewish.

Here is what Shakespeare said...seems like good advice still.

Polonius:

Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.

Hamlet Act 1, scene 3, 75–77

[midnight rambler]

In a different world and at a different time (over 20 years ago) when I owned multiple automobiles in good working order I had no issue with loaning one of them to very close friends. Fcuking lawyers and their spawn of Satan (the corporations) have thoroughly FUBARed this world since then.

[palani]

I say go for the deal with the stipulation that your wife be the only driver and you get the same option the next time you are on vacation in their area.

In case you don't recognize the form this is a counter-offer. It has the effect of canceling the original offer without the dishonor associated with refusing it outright.

Should make your wife happy too.

[Cebu_4_2]

Your only vehicle and you need it for work, the Honda won't cut it. Case closed without rejecting the offer and sounding like a prude.

Either way you made the right decision.

[cpy911]

I say go for the deal with the stipulation that your wife be the only driver and you get the same option the next time you are on vacation in their area.

In case you don't recognize the form this is a counter-offer. It has the effect of canceling the original offer without the dishonor associated with refusing it outright.

Should make your wife happy too.


Good one.

[Light]

What a bunch of cheapskates around here! I say you should lend them the minivan. Sure, they might wreck it and cost you some money.

Don't be so cheap, man.

[BillBoard]

Ok. Here is my story if you would believe it.

About 20 years ago, a family friend asked my wife if their daughter and their boyfriend could borrow my SUV to go skiing in Vermont.

Long story short, I said no, wife said yes... She won. The friend's daughter boyfriend hits another car, runs from the scene and abandons the truck under a bridge. Reports the truck stolen and claims not to know anything. My saving grace? I happen to have drill with NG that weekend.

Not an enjoyable experience. Like my brother says, "I rather lend you my wife because I know where you are going to hit it than my truck."

[sirgonzo420]

What a bunch of cheapskates around here! I say you should lend them the minivan. Sure, they might wreck it and cost you some money.

Don't be so cheap, man.


lol

[cpy911]

What a bunch of cheapskates around here! I say you should lend them the minivan. Sure, they might wreck it and cost you some money.

Don't be so cheap, man.


Can I send 'em your number to loan your rig out? ;)

[cpy911]

Ok. Here is my story if you would believe it.

About 20 years ago, a family friend asked my wife if their daughter and their boyfriend could borrow my SUV to go skiing in Vermont.

Long story short, I said no, wife said yes... She won. The friend's daughter boyfriend hits another car, runs from the scene and abandons the truck under a bridge. Reports the truck stolen and claims not to know anything. My saving grace? I happen to have drill with NG that weekend.

Not an enjoyable experience. Like my brother says, "I rather lend you my wife because I know where you are going to hit it than my truck."


Holy Crap.

I assume the people wanting to borrow my rig (I don't know them at all) are OK, but when you ASSUME you make an ASS(out of)-U-(and)ME

What about uninsured guy hitting my rig in Northern Cali 500+ from my house? I am liable per what I read.
Also, I don't think my insurance company would dig lending the rig out to strangers, maybe I should call them and see what they say?

[General of Darkness]

This is the minivan that someone lent to that cock holster LIGHT. This is how he returned. He said it ran great, but thinks there might be something wrong with it. :dunno

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/054o84O7r4eZn/610x.jpg

[Light]

This is the minivan that someone lent to that cock holster LIGHT. This is how he returned. He said it ran great, but thinks there might be something wrong with it. :dunno

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/054o84O7r4eZn/610x.jpg


It only looks that way 'cause people were shooting at it and then a bomb went off. Not my fault.

[Light]

What a bunch of cheapskates around here! I say you should lend them the minivan. Sure, they might wreck it and cost you some money.

Don't be so cheap, man.


Can I send 'em your number to loan your rig out? ;)


I already lent it out.

[Jazkal]

Their mini-van broke down just before their trip.

They can't take care of their own stuff, what makes them think they can take care of yours.

[midnight rambler]

Their mini-van broke down just before their trip.

They can't take care of their own stuff, what makes them think they can take care of yours.


That is indeed the key component here.

[cpy911]

Wife still thinks I should have lent it out.

Guess she would not be the one to fix everything in the end.

I am frustrated with my friends' for bringing it up and the friction it has caused. (We are not THAT close of friends anyways, mainly fellow members of a church congregation, but we watch each others' kids)

Lending a vehicle for a 700+ mile round trip journey to strangers? That seems like an out of control request, but my wife thinks it is reasonable. Ugh.
At least she respects my opinion and are agreeing to disagree.

Thanks for your support...I made the right decision and feel less stressed about having a vehicle loaned out for out of state journey for a WEEK!

[mike88]

tell em to take the fuccin bus. "church friends" my azz..............

[BillBoard]

I divorced the first wife, and that experience certainly didn't help our marriage. Now my present wife would not even mention something like that to me, the woman knows how to take good care of me.

[ximmy]

Your wife should read these posts...

[Book]

"church friends"



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[cedarchopper]

I would give the solicitation from a friend of a friend wanting to borrow my rig about as much consideration as a telemarketer wanting my credit card number. It is not reasonable.

Your offer to pitch in some cash was a generous move on your part. You didn't say no, you said yes, it just wasn't what they had in mind ;]

[freespirit]

Holy Crap.

I assume the people wanting to borrow my rig (I don't know them at all) are OK, but when you ASSUME you make an ASS(out of)-U-(and)ME

What about uninsured guy hitting my rig in Northern Cali 500+ from my house? I am liable per what I read.
Also, I don't think my insurance company would dig lending the rig out to strangers, maybe I should call them and see what they say?


FUCK THAT!!! just say NO! it's an unreasonable request, and you obviously aren't comfortable with the idea...your insurancee co is gonna laugh you off the phone!
if these people had respect for you and your situation they would not make a big deal over your refusal...
you have every right to set the fences where you see fit, and they should respect that. if they don't, they aren't the friends you thought they were anyhow...

[madfranks]

I loaned a car out to a friend once, and ended up losing it. True story: A friend of mine who delivered pizzas needed a car because hers broke down. I naively thought it would be the friendly thing to do so I gave her the keys. Unbeknownst to me she let her boyfriend drive the car also, and about a week and a half in, I get a phone call that the car broke down on the highway. Turns out the boyfriend blew the engine. The friend said it wasn't her fault because she wasn't driving it at the time; the boyfriend said it wasn't his fault because he just took it for one ride and didn't do anything to cause the engine to blow. Ruined our friendship, and I lost the car.

Moral of the story, DON'T DO IT!!!!!

[AndreaGail]

add another to the dont do it crowd

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the last time i tried to help a friend out, I got her a $50 ticket to go to an auto race with me as she had never been. Well one week later she says she cant afford it so she cant go and i have to eat the loss and just ask another friend to go. She then has the audacity to flip the situation around and give me the guilt trip for being mad at her.

[skidmark]

The last time I loaned my vehicle to a friend, he wrecked it, and I got sued by two sets of jewish ambulance chasing lawyers for 44 million dollars.

[saint]

Johnny saiz.....

[FreeEnergy]

SAY NO.

Absolutely.

You do NOT lend your CAR or YOUR WIFE.

End of story.

I am beating this into my young relative's head right now.

Recent story about this young fella relative of mine through wife. He's got the car I used to drive, we gave it to him on his birthday. It is a nice japanese car, but fairly old and absolutely reliable, would've worked for another 3-4 years. You see where I am going with this?

About 3 months ago, he's got a girlfriend that sucked all the money right out of him. They split up 'cause he had no more money to spend.

About 2 months ago she's broke too, lives with another man, and she asks nicely to borrow my young fella's car for an evening. So you know, young girls being all nicey and needy...so he lends the car. What she said was a bunch of BS, of course, because what used to be my car was found completely dead, off the road, with front axles totally destroyed, the oil pan gone and no oil etc. Car completely destroyed, in one ride. No money to pay for it, no car, just frigging you guess it how much this skunk is putting me up for, easily 5 grand, 'cause the young fella has got nowhere else to go but to my wife....

[Uncle Salty]

Lending out your mini van is just asking to get stabbed in the dick.

[1970 silver art]

Lending out your mini van is just asking to get stabbed in the dick.


Sounds more like a wallet stabbing than a dick stabbing to me. :D

[cpy911]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D

[milehi]

The responsible thing for these people to do would be to cancel their trip and use the money to fix their van. Sometimes things just don't work out as planned.

[Trinity]

The responsible thing for these people to do would be to cancel their trip and use the money to fix their van. Sometimes things just don't work out as planned.


I agree. What is so important about this trip?

[Spectrism]

Fun thread. I have lots of years of experience with lending. Here are some options.

1. Church people eh? Tell them you will pray about it and you are certain that if God wills them to go, HE will provide the means.

2. Stewardship- you are responsible for the management of the property. Therefore, you would consider the request if they would sign a contract and indemnify you, your wife, family heirs, etc. The contract will cover ALL occasions that could happen. ANY mechanical failures, defacements, missing components, etc... will be replaced or repaired to YOUR satisfaction upon return. Time limit- one week. Get a lease agreement and use their clauses.

3. Insurance. They will provide you a certificate of insurance satisfactory to state laws and listing your vin as covered.

4. Co-sign. The mediating "friend" will co-sign and claim equal liability with them to cover all unforeseen costs.

If you had a couple extra vehicles laying around and you were known to offer them for church functions or needy people, I think that would be a different story. I did not read anything about the need of the family. For all we know, they are taking a vacation. If they cannot afford the transportation, they cannot afford the vacation.

For people to build YOUR vehicle up as God's answer and you are the only evil impediment to God's plan is just outrageous. I really have no respect for folks like that. It is an emotional coercion that does not offer you the freedom of choice to do with your own responsible holdings as you see fit. Instead, it is an attempted theft of your liberty.


Oh- one more thing. Maybe God has put a stumbling block in front of these people so they will not make the trip. You could actually be setting yourself up for chastisement by God for interfering with His plans.

[cpy911]

Fun thread. I have lots of years of experience with lending. Here are some options.

1. Church people eh? Tell them you will pray about it and you are certain that if God wills them to go, HE will provide the means.

2. Stewardship- you are responsible for the management of the property. Therefore, you would consider the request if they would sign a contract and indemnify you, your wife, family heirs, etc. The contract will cover ALL occasions that could happen. ANY mechanical failures, defacements, missing components, etc... will be replaced or repaired to YOUR satisfaction upon return. Time limit- one week. Get a lease agreement and use their clauses.

3. Insurance. They will provide you a certificate of insurance satisfactory to state laws and listing your vin as covered.

4. Co-sign. The mediating "friend" will co-sign and claim equal liability with them to cover all unforeseen costs.

If you had a couple extra vehicles laying around and you were known to offer them for church functions or needy people, I think that would be a different story. I did not read anything about the need of the family. For all we know, they are taking a vacation. If they cannot afford the transportation, they cannot afford the vacation.

For people to build YOUR vehicle up as God's answer and you are the only evil impediment to God's plan is just outrageous. I really have no respect for folks like that. It is an emotional coercion that does not offer you the freedom of choice to do with your own responsible holdings as you see fit. Instead, it is an attempted theft of your liberty.


Oh- one more thing. Maybe God has put a stumbling block in front of these people so they will not make the trip. You could actually be setting yourself up for chastisement by God for interfering with His plans.


Thanks for your comments. It sure would be a hassle and seem over the top to get a lease going, but how would I know if my friends' family can even pay for or honor the lease? Also, my insurance company wants me to add these folks to my policy . I don't even know them?! They crash, my rates go up! I don't want to get this intertwined with folks I don't know. Even if they are family of friends. (friends of my family would be a degree closer!)

My friends are now in Northern California on vacation visiting family is my guess. A family reunion perhaps?
The urgency is to get the rest of their family (in-laws?) down there as well. The in-laws were planning to go, but their tranny went out and the mini-van is in the shop.

But, they have the bus, air, rental car options. If this is a big family gathering, all could pitch in a few bucks, I was even going to help out and I don't even know them...just don't take my rig and cause much more liability and stress that I can't handle.

You are right, maybe God is protecting them with this predicament and not going may be their protection. I don't know these people at all, they are extended family to my friends at church.

Hopefully, all will decompress and they will realize how unreasonable their request is and how it put me in a pickle.

Thanks folks! GSUS rocks.

[cpy911]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D

[cpy911]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???

[LuckyStrike]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


I'm sure you're satisfied with the advice given but I wanted to add that offering to help pay for them to rent a vehicle is a nice gesture and more than appropriate. I don't see how anyone would think you need to go farther than this.

It annoys me when people have too many kids and then bitch and moan "oh we can't afford this or that" well too bad perhaps you should've considered whether or not you could afford children before you had them. Think before you act.

I'm not opposed to big families at all, my brother has 6 kids and my sister has 5, and they CAN both afford that many without having to ask to freaking borrow vehicles from strangers.

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D

[Trinity]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 7" because I love my silver art bars way too much to loan them out to anyone. :) I NEVER loan out ANY of my silver art bars to ANYBODY. ;D

[milehi]

They could also take the train to Northern California. The train station in Portland has a great bar, and you can continue to drink on the train. ;D

[cpy911]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 7" because I love my silver art bars way too much to loan them out to anyone. :) I NEVER loan out ANY of my silver art bars to ANYBODY. ;D



I would loan them an SAE or two, but I lost them in a terribly tragic boating accident in a boat that I borrowed from some friend's family members that were strangers. The boat and SAE's were a total and complete loss. :)

[Trinity]

The boat and SAE's were a total and complete loss.

I feel your pain.

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 7" because I love my silver art bars way too much to loan them out to anyone. :) I NEVER loan out ANY of my silver art bars to ANYBODY. ;D



I would loan them an SAE or two, but I lost them in a terribly tragic boating accident in a boat that I borrowed from some friend's family members that were strangers. The boat and SAE's were a total and complete loss. :)





I am just glad that I do not get on boats. I do not like boats because they terrify me and I could NEVER take my '70's silver art bar collection on a boat. ;D Having a boating accident with my '70's silver art bar collection would be a traumatic experience that I could never recover from. I stay far away from boats because boats can be hazardous to your "real wealth". ;D

Oh BTW.....I am sorry for your loss cpy911. Losing "real wealth" must be a traumatic experience for you. Bummer.........

[Sparky]

I agree with the rest that this is an unreasonable request. A mini-van can be rented for $500/week, and you offered to chip in some cash. If they can't afford that, than they can't afford to take this trip.

[joe_momma]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 7" because I love my silver art bars way too much to loan them out to anyone. :) I NEVER loan out ANY of my silver art bars to ANYBODY. ;D



I would loan them an SAE or two, but I lost them in a terribly tragic boating accident in a boat that I borrowed from some friend's family members that were strangers. The boat and SAE's were a total and complete loss. :)





I am just glad that I do not get on boats. I do not like boats because they terrify me and I could NEVER take my '70's silver art bar collection on a boat. ;D Having a boating accident with my '70's silver art bar collection would be a traumatic experience that I could never recover from. I stay far away from boats because boats can be hazardous to your "real wealth". ;D

Oh BTW.....I am sorry for your loss cpy911. Losing "real wealth" must be a traumatic experience for you. Bummer.........



May I borrow your boat?

[Light]

What a bunch of cheapskates! It's the Christmas season and you are a bunch of skinflints.

What would Jesus do if he were asked this question? "If a man asks for your cloak, give him your minivan," said Jesus in the book of John.

Personally, I would be glad to help some needy person by lending them my minivan. I would even put a case of beer in the back seat.

[Bullion_Bob]

What kind of "friend" asks someone to borrow their car only to lend it off to someone else, and to go on a road trip no less???

Crazy x2

[Spectrism]

Skin flints.... LOL. In today's litigious society, you WILL be punished by seeking to help another.

I got a good bead on a neighbor who is of foreign (African) descent... actually born there. He was asked by another neighbor who is absolutely fanatical about keeping his yard up if he could use a small strip of his lot along side- to run loads of dirt to the back. He said yes.

Once the bobcats started running, the ground was torn up (no surprise). The land-owner who had agreed now comes running over to the other neighbor yelling "who am I going to sue?" The one doing the work assured him that the grass would be replanted and cleaned up.... and it was- better than before.

But the first neighbor showed his cards. He will sue at the drop of a hat for anything. He will NEVER come in my yard and I will NEVER go to his. Such a hot-head could never be trusted. The neighbor doing the work is well-off and very good people. Size up your neighbors asap.... and don't ask for trouble.

[1970 silver art]

So there are three answers I see here from all the discussions...

1. Don't loan out your vehicle.
2. Don't loan out your vehicle.
3. Don't loan out your vehicle.

Thanks guys...


There is also a 4th answer that I see from these discussions and that is..........

4. Don't loan out your vehicle.

:D



5. Don't loan out your wife. :P


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 5" because I am not married. ;D



6. Don't loan out your girlfriend. (????) ???


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 6" because I do not have a girlfriend. ;D




7. Don't loan out your Silver bars.


I do not have to worry about breaking "Rule # 7" because I love my silver art bars way too much to loan them out to anyone. :) I NEVER loan out ANY of my silver art bars to ANYBODY. ;D



I would loan them an SAE or two, but I lost them in a terribly tragic boating accident in a boat that I borrowed from some friend's family members that were strangers. The boat and SAE's were a total and complete loss. :)





I am just glad that I do not get on boats. I do not like boats because they terrify me and I could NEVER take my '70's silver art bar collection on a boat. ;D Having a boating accident with my '70's silver art bar collection would be a traumatic experience that I could never recover from. I stay far away from boats because boats can be hazardous to your "real wealth". ;D

Oh BTW.....I am sorry for your loss cpy911. Losing "real wealth" must be a traumatic experience for you. Bummer.........



May I borrow your boat?


HAHAHAHA!!!!!! I do not have a boat. However, I have an idea. If you start a "Boat for Joe_Momma" fund raiser on GSUS, then I am sure that all of the generous posters of the GSUS community (except me) will be more than willing to donate a few FRNs towards your boat purchase. Once you have enough donations raised, then you can go out and buy a boat and you do not have to worry about asking anyone if they can loan you a boat. :D

:ROFL:

Just kidding with you Joe_Momma ;) ;D