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MNeagle
29th December 2010, 07:43 AM
APPLETON, Wis. - Appleton police have told local gas-station owners they will no longer respond to reports of customers who drive off without paying.

Police say their resources are too limited to respond to such calls. Police Lt. Kelly Gady says gas-station owners are now responsible for collecting their own debts from drivers who pump but don't pay.

Gady says most cases turn out to be honest mistakes or problems with credit-card readers, not intentional theft.

The Post-Crescent of Appleton says the new procedure has been in place since Dec. 1. It requires station operators to use the plate number to obtain the vehicle-registration information, and then follow up with the driver.

Convenience-store owner Hardeep Arora worries that drivers won't take him seriously as they would a police officer.

http://www.startribune.com/local/112597074.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUi D3aPc:_Yyc:aUvckD8EQDUl

mike88
29th December 2010, 07:50 AM
too busy writing traffic citations no doubt. safer than catching actual criminals, lots less effort.

joe_momma
29th December 2010, 07:52 AM
too busy writing traffic citations no doubt. safer than catching actual criminals, lots less effort.


And much more lucrative - I'd assume that people doing drive-offs haven't the money for gasoline, let alone for the citation.

Cobalt
29th December 2010, 07:59 AM
The writing is on the walls, we are entering a new era where you will pay extra for services that people take for granted.

Not too long ago a story was going around where a fire dept sat and watched a house burn because the owners didn't pay a yearly fee for that service in the area.

DMac
29th December 2010, 08:07 AM
This reminds me of the story where (in NY I think) if you need the Fire Dept to arrive for an auto crash they are going to bill you directly.

It's sad and quite true, IMO, as mike88 said they are too busy writing citations. Police have turned into another revenue generating agency of the state.

willie pete
29th December 2010, 08:25 AM
too busy writing traffic citations no doubt. safer than catching actual criminals, lots less effort.


And much more lucrative - I'd assume that people doing drive-offs haven't the money for gasoline, let alone for the citation.



that's what I' thinking; they're only going after infractions they can collect on, and traffic citations are the cream of the crop, 20minutes of "cop" time = $200 citation :D

EE_
29th December 2010, 09:13 AM
Cool, another cop hating thread!

Pigs on steroids becoming a big problem
Chris Nova | Tue 28th Dec 2010, 02:39 pm

A badge, a gun, and a steroid-filled syringe.

This is not the usual imagery people have of police officers, but more and more cops are getting busted in steroid sweeps nationwide.

Unsurprisingly, observers are saying that steroid use amongst police officers is reaching Barry Bonds like proportions.

"It's a big problem, and from the number of cases, it's something we shouldn't ignore," Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Lawrence Payne said to AOL News. "It's not that we set out to target cops, but when we're in the middle of an active investigation into steroids, there have been quite a few cases that have led back to police officers."

According to AOL News the amount of investigations into steroid use in the police ranks has increased in recent months:

* A former police officer in Canby, Ore., who allegedly took delivery of some steroids while on duty pleaded guilty in February to purchasing steroids.

* An officer in South Bend, Ind., pleaded no contest in March to selling steroids.

* A Cleveland police officer was sentenced to a year in prison and five years of supervised release in April after he was found guilty of illegally purchasing steroids.

* A dealer in Paw Paw, Mich., allegedly told authorities that he supplied "several police officers" with steroids, which led one Kalamazoo officer to resign in May.

Victor Conte, the founder of the lab known as Bay Area Lab Co-Operative, who helped numerous athletes cheat, said to AOL News that it wouldn’t surprise him if as many as a quarter of police officers were using some type of steroid drug.

Yes, that Number seems high. And while there are no studies on how many people in law enforcement are using steroids, the recent discovery that 248 cops and firefighters from 53 departments were linked to a Jersey City, N.J., doctor strengthens Conte's estimate.

One of the things that really has people worried is the potential for roid rage that could lead to unprofessional police conduct.

"I think overall, it's kind of like alcohol," Conte said to AOL News. "If you're a jerk when you're sober, you're going to be more of a jerk when you're using."

According to AOL News, Joseph Santiago, a former police director in Trenton, N.J., told The Star-Ledger that Trenton had a "significant amount" of excessive force complaints.

"When you looked at these records, you start to see where there might be a correlation," Santiago told The Star-Ledger. "Is it absolutely clear? No. Would a complaint have been there regardless of steroids? Those are issues that need to be addressed."

The issues of excessive force appear to be happening all over the country.

The lawyer for an 84-year-old Florida man who received a broken neck in September when he was forced to the ground wanted to get the Orlando cop involved in the situation tested for steroids. His request was denied by the department, they claimed the test would violate the officer’s rights.

Testing in law enforcement, much like it is in professional sports it a subject of much debate. Unions and the like allow for random testing for street drugs, but they sometimes block testing for steroids.

Physical fitness has become more important for police officers, but the recent trend of juiced up officers is a bit extreme. If the officers who have been caught is only a fraction of those who are using, how many officers patrolling the streets nationwide are on the juice?

This problem likely won’t go away anytime soon, it might just force police unions to give in and allow more testing for steroids. To the casual observer the resistance to testing might make it look like the police unions have something to hide.

http://www.tgdaily.com/event-coverage/53260-cops-using-steroids-becoming-a-big-problem

Twisted Titan
29th December 2010, 09:34 AM
This reminds me of the story where (in NY I think) if you need the Fire Dept to arrive for an auto crash they are going to bill you directly.

It's sad and quite true, IMO, as mike88 said they are too busy writing citations. Police have turned into another revenue generating agency of the state.



Correction:

They have ALWAYS been a revenue generating arm of the state. It is just now they have become much more naked about what their function is.

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Twisted Titan
29th December 2010, 09:38 AM
Police say their resources are too limited to respond to such calls. Police Lt. Kelly Gady says gas-station owners are now responsible for collecting their own debts from drivers who pump but don't pay.

But they have plenty of resources to respond if a Store Owner Uses a Firearm (or any weapon) to protect his livelyhood or his life.

Lots of Police action on that front eh Lt. Kelly???

SilverMagnet
29th December 2010, 09:39 AM
I have not seen a non pre-pay gas station in my area for years. I wonder how the cops will respond when people start entering the gas stations with shotguns and demand a free fill up with a complimentary car wash.

Twisted Titan
29th December 2010, 09:41 AM
Cool, another cop hating thread!

Pigs on steroids becoming a big problem
Chris Nova | Tue 28th Dec 2010, 02:39 pm

A badge, a gun, and a steroid-filled syringe.

This is not the usual imagery people have of police officers, but more and more cops are getting busted in steroid sweeps nationwide.

Unsurprisingly, observers are saying that steroid use amongst police officers is reaching Barry Bonds like proportions.

"It's a big problem, and from the number of cases, it's something we shouldn't ignore," Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Lawrence Payne said to AOL News. "It's not that we set out to target cops, but when we're in the middle of an active investigation into steroids, there have been quite a few cases that have led back to police officers."



http://www.tgdaily.com/event-coverage/53260-cops-using-steroids-becoming-a-big-problem


Roid Rage thats protected by the badge........

Whats not to love???


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Ponce
29th December 2010, 09:53 AM
Titan?........why post the whole thing to make a two liner?.......come on not, save space.

About steroid?.........does it affect the mind also or what?.....why is it illegal?

mick silver
29th December 2010, 11:25 AM
first thing .... dont turn the pump on till you have cash in hand ... we have done this for a few years now . it saves time an money . it hard to get a plate number when they have taking it off the car . most drive off are the ones with big suv . it your company an no one can give stuff away so stop turning the pumps on till paper in hand